[Q] MediaTek MT8389 Tablets ROM Development?? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys! I noticed there are no threads here about cheap tablets with the quad core MT8389 chip. Tabs with this CPU have more phone features than those running on Rockchip or Allwinner. For instance, this tab called Freelander PX2 has 3G and GPS. Most of all, it is dual SIM! You can see the full specs here: http://www.chinatabletreview.com/freelander-px2
Now I do not see many tablets with these 3 features combined. But I'm pretty sure this tab may have some bugs and as with most Chinese tablets, support for firmware updates could be a problem. I just hope there are already people who have developed ROMs for these tablets. Are there any? If not, maybe we should pay more attention to these tabs...

For the $155 they're charging, the HiSense Sero 7 Pro is a better buy at $129. Higher res screen (1280x800), same quad core CPU. HiSense has 5 point multi touch though (vs 10 point on the PX2). The built in 3G is a bit moot because the bands will mostly get you 2G EDGE data on any GSM carrier in the U.S (although the 850 band might get you 3G on AT&T in *some * areas where they have 3G on 850).

Thanks for the info LordLugard! HiSense Sero 7 Pro looks good with that price. Surely a great buy!
Do you own a HiSense Sero 7 Pro tablet LordLugard? Could you give us a short review of that tab?

I don't own one but reviews are all over the web and very positive. Just go a general Google search.
Here are a few:
http://www.androidcentral.com/hisense-sero-7-pro-review
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/tablets/hisense-sero-7-pro.aspx

Great find!
LordLugard said:
For the $155 they're charging, the HiSense Sero 7 Pro is a better buy at $129. Higher res screen (1280x800), same quad core CPU. HiSense has 5 point multi touch though (vs 10 point on the PX2). The built in 3G is a bit moot because the bands will mostly get you 2G EDGE data on any GSM carrier in the U.S (although the 850 band might get you 3G on AT&T in *some * areas where they have 3G on 850).
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Great find LordLugard! I bought the Freelander PX2 a week back from Aliexpress because I thought they would have it cheap if anything. It's a 155USD shipped with DHL and it works like a dream. Only problem is the screen! If the HiSense Sero 7 is good, it'll be evem better with a lower price and better screen!
I would love to try out the HiSense Sero 7 Pro! Any clue where you can get them?
Everything works as spec-ed out. Only thing is that althought it seems to have a proximity or light sensor it isn't working or supported yet. Other than that it's great.
It is root-able with "Framaroot-1.6.0.apk" from an xda thread
And the manufacturer supposedly provides the stock firmware (not confirmed though)
The Sero 7 Pro looks PERFECT!
Edit! Any idea if they will be available for international customers? I would love to get a couple!

felix.chia said:
Great find LordLugard! I bought the Freelander PX2 a week back from Aliexpress because I thought they would have it cheap if anything. It's a 155USD shipped with DHL and it works like a dream. Only problem is the screen! If the HiSense Sero 7 is good, it'll be evem better with a lower price and better screen!
I would love to try out the HiSense Sero 7 Pro! Any clue where you can get them?
Everything works as spec-ed out. Only thing is that althought it seems to have a proximity or light sensor it isn't working or supported yet. Other than that it's great.
It is root-able with "Framaroot-1.6.0.apk" from an xda thread
And the manufacturer supposedly provides the stock firmware (not confirmed though)
The Sero 7 Pro looks PERFECT!
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Unfortunately the Hisense Sero 7 Pro is exclusive to WalMart stores in the U.S (I notice you're in Singapore) http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hisense-Sero-7-Pro-7-Tablet-Quad-Core-Processor-with-8GB-Memory/24805142. But i'll wager they might be available on eBay or thereabouts.
A general eBay search comes up with this http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...C0&_nkw=hisense+sero+7+pro&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Good luck.

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Unfortunately the Hisense Sero 7 Pro is exclusive to WalMart stores in the U.S (I notice you're in Singapore) http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hisense-Sero-7-Pro-7-Tablet-Quad-Core-Processor-with-8GB-Memory/24805142. But i'll wager they might be available on eBay or thereabouts.
A general eBay search comes up with this http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...C0&_nkw=hisense+sero+7+pro&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Good luck.
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Thanks LordLugard! Yea it seems like it Perhaps I could get someone to ship it over for me too! Yes they do! Thanks again Sometimes it's better to use ebay's main site rather than the respective countrys' to get all the items. Perhaps use a mail forwarding service in the US. Thanks again man! Quick reply too! It's 0730 here in Singapore
Noticed the Sero 7 Pro has no inbuilt SIM slots for 3G. The PX2 has Dual SIM (not that I even use them) and has call function too, being a phablet. But the Sero 7 Pro seems to be rock solid with NFC, HD screen (at least 720p!), dual speakers, 4000mAh (PX2 3200mAh) and most importantly would be its ability to attract developers and has support. I see updates that HiSense will bring Android 4.3 in too!
I forgot to mention the Freelander PX2 only has 5 point multi touch. If any sources say otherwise that's fake specs!

Thanks for the input guys! HiSense Sero 7 Pro is definitely a keeper. Are there any other MT8389 tablets that are noteworthy?

felix.chia said:
Great find LordLugard! I bought the Freelander PX2 a week back from Aliexpress because I thought they would have it cheap if anything. It's a 155USD shipped with DHL and it works like a dream. Only problem is the screen! If the HiSense Sero 7 is good, it'll be evem better with a lower price and better screen!
I would love to try out the HiSense Sero 7 Pro! Any clue where you can get them?
Everything works as spec-ed out. Only thing is that althought it seems to have a proximity or light sensor it isn't working or supported yet. Other than that it's great.
It is root-able with "Framaroot-1.6.0.apk" from an xda thread
And the manufacturer supposedly provides the stock firmware (not confirmed though)
The Sero 7 Pro looks PERFECT!
Edit! Any idea if they will be available for international customers? I would love to get a couple!
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Hi felix.chia! Could you tell us your impressions with your Freelander PX2?

Impressions
toffzter said:
Hi felix.chia! Could you tell us your impressions with your Freelander PX2?
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I bought this tablet after comparing it with other Chinese tablets/phablets. I'd say if your budget is about 160USD shipped then this 7" Phablet is the perfect choice. The specs are as listed and feels true to them. It is a very speedy tablet. Processing wise as well as surfing with Wifi or 3G. I went to look for ways to root it. xda forum has a method and it works with the Freelander PX2.
Only relative cons are well its screen which isn't at least 720p for HD videos and the screen is slightly white-ish regarding its contrast. Something I've seen on alot of reviews for Chinese screens. Nothing major but just to know. I will see if I can get screenshots of benchmarks I've done (Antutu, Vellamo, 3DMark, Quadrant). The speaker is a just a little softer than brand names. Of course the important point is that you get what you paid for and I'd say the Freelander PX2 has every buck squeezed out for the best fit of hardware
One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you. Nevertheless it's extremely speedy. I'm really happy with it. I think if you tried it you would get one for yourself. I got one for myself and everyone wants one Cheap and definitely good.

Just dont expect (serious) development on this Mediatek SoC.
Mediatek uses alot of Closed Sources..
All the last SoC Sources (MT6575, MT6577; MT6589, etc) are missing those important sources, and without it, theres no way to compile an fully working kernel, or compile an rom from source.
So, think better before buying...

felix.chia said:
I bought this tablet after comparing it with other Chinese tablets/phablets. I'd say if your budget is about 160USD shipped then this 7" Phablet is the perfect choice. The specs are as listed and feels true to them. It is a very speedy tablet. Processing wise as well as surfing with Wifi or 3G. I went to look for ways to root it. xda forum has a method and it works with the Freelander PX2.
Only relative cons are well its screen which isn't at least 720p for HD videos and the screen is slightly white-ish regarding its contrast. Something I've seen on alot of reviews for Chinese screens. Nothing major but just to know. I will see if I can get screenshots of benchmarks I've done (Antutu, Vellamo, 3DMark, Quadrant). The speaker is a just a little softer than brand names. Of course the important point is that you get what you paid for and I'd say the Freelander PX2 has every buck squeezed out for the best fit of hardware
One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you. Nevertheless it's extremely speedy. I'm really happy with it. I think if you tried it you would get one for yourself. I got one for myself and everyone wants one Cheap and definitely good.
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Strange but I think I have already read this somewhere else. Is this you thegauntlet?

good info
superdragonpt said:
Just dont expect (serious) development on this Mediatek SoC.
Mediatek uses alot of Closed Sources..
All the last SoC Sources (MT6575, MT6577; MT6589, etc) are missing those important sources, and without it, theres no way to compile an fully working kernel, or compile an rom from source.
So, think better before buying...
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Thanks superdragonpt for that insight! Nevertheless I must say without development the Freelancer PX2 does meet the needs of budget users. I would love for yhr HiSense Sero 7 Pro to be available internationally but the price would probably be higher.
Really depends on your uses. For a 155USD DHL Shipped you cannot go wrong.
Budget users would love it.
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toffzter said:
Strange but I think I have already read this somewhere else. Is this you thegauntlet?
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Hey toffzter, yes it is me. Sorry been busy and its the same so I wrote the same impressions. I'm currently hospitalized so the PX2 has been great company!

felix.chia said:
Hey toffzter, yes it is me. Sorry been busy and its the same so I wrote the same impressions. I'm currently hospitalized so the PX2 has been great company!
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Hi felix.chia! Sorry to hear about your hospitalization. No worries because your review at slatedroid is very informative. Sorry too that I asked for your impressions, again. I didn't know it was you.
Anyway, get well soon! I hope Freelander PX2 will take good care of you while you're there!

The HiSense Sero 7 Pro seems to only support Bluetooth 3.0, however, while the MT8389 tabs should have Bluetooth 4.0.
Do you guys know if the MT8389 tablets support Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy, though? They don't run Android 4.3 (which is when BLE support was introduced), but in some places around the web, the 8389 tablets claim to support Bluetooth Low Energy.

brilliantdonkey said:
The HiSense Sero 7 Pro seems to only support Bluetooth 3.0, however, while the MT8389 tabs should have Bluetooth 4.0.
Do you guys know if the MT8389 tablets support Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy, though? They don't run Android 4.3 (which is when BLE support was introduced), but in some places around the web, the 8389 tablets claim to support Bluetooth Low Energy.
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I'm not sure about BLE. Maybe we'll have to wait until these tabs run on Android 4.3.

I own the 3 of them Hisence, the freelander and the HD-89 with the MTK8389
Why I own the 3 of them? by mistake First I got the Hisence from Walmart with a 2 years protection plan and i need a cheap plan cell phone as well So I end up looking for one and ebaying a bit i found the freelander. Mean time the Hisence burned the battery so it was send for repairs and been a month and not returns of the Hisence. I was happy with my cell phone plan net10 good data speed, good coverage area, again found the Freelander 7" phablet. but I got disappointed because the volume was so low and was not taking the battery charge, try it to get my money back or an exchange, It was a total frustration, I almost put it in the trash can; one day I went to the attic and by a chance saw a Motorola cable and charger. Decided to give the Freelander a try and it began to chargeeee. But I already ebaying a bit and found the MTK8389 and I end up buying because in my work, I need one fast. Impress with the delivering, It worked good out of the box, The ATT net10 sim card worked super fine just added data networks and I got a very fast. Still I have plans for the other tablets, my family plan on Net10 will use them following that afeter the fullcharge in the Freelander all its failures dessapeared. Hisence has a HDMI and just a 5MP rear camera and not cell phone abilities. the other 2 will do very well as the monstrous smart phone in the market for just 200 bucks. The HD-89 Mini 3G has an 8mp camera that i need for my work, and impresive movie palying. Have not test its HDMI functions yet. so far so good. I may try to do some rooting later. :laugh:

felix.chia said:
One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you.
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Are you sure it isn't due to a previous MT65xx driver already installed on your PC?

Freelander px2
felix.chia said:
I bought this tablet after comparing it with other Chinese tablets/phablets. I'd say if your budget is about 160USD shipped then this 7" Phablet is the perfect choice. The specs are as listed and feels true to them. It is a very speedy tablet. Processing wise as well as surfing with Wifi or 3G. I went to look for ways to root it. xda forum has a method and it works with the Freelander PX2.
Only relative cons are well its screen which isn't at least 720p for HD videos and the screen is slightly white-ish regarding its contrast. Something I've seen on alot of reviews for Chinese screens. Nothing major but just to know. I will see if I can get screenshots of benchmarks I've done (Antutu, Vellamo, 3DMark, Quadrant). The speaker is a just a little softer than brand names. Of course the important point is that you get what you paid for and I'd say the Freelander PX2 has every buck squeezed out for the best fit of hardware
One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you. Nevertheless it's extremely speedy. I'm really happy with it. I think if you tried it you would get one for yourself. I got one for myself and everyone wants one Cheap and definitely good.
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Antutu does seem to indicate wrong CPU number although using app CPU identifier shows correct CPU number - Its still a brill tablet for the money....

I've had my Freelander PX2 for a month now and I think it's a great device for the money but when I'm out and about using 3g I get a reboot 2/3 times a day
Sent from my Freelander PX2 using xda app-developers app

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Viewpad 10e

I've been lucky enough to snag a Viewpad 10e from Argos in the UK... Struggling to find any forums specifically for this pad though.
In a nutshell, its a great piece of hardware for £200 slightly let down by stuttery software. Very iPad like but with Android gingerbread.
Anyone else out there have any experience with this tab yet? Anyone know of any plans for it to get it's own forum/development community?
Cheers.
steviesteve78 said:
I've been lucky enough to snag a Viewpad 10e from Argos in the UK... Struggling to find any forums specifically for this pad though.
In a nutshell, its a great piece of hardware for £200 slightly let down by stuttery software. Very iPad like but with Android gingerbread.
Anyone else out there have any experience with this tab yet? Anyone know of any plans for it to get it's own forum/development community?
Cheers.
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Is it a tegra 2 device? If so we all here would at least love a full working gingerbread rom.
No - sorry - its Cortex A8
Processor 1Ghz Cortex A8 Processor
OS Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
LCD Monitor 9.7” IPS LCD 1024 x 768 ; XGA
Brightness 400 cd/m2 Brightness
Memory DDR3 512 MB
Internal Memory 4GB
Band Wifi only
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth BlueTooth 3.0 and 2.1 + EDR compatibility
External Memory Micro SD card slot
I/O Interface Micro USB/ Mini-HDMI/ 3.5mm headset audio jack
Audio Stereo speakers/ microphone
Sensors G-sensor
Cameras Front: CMOS 1.3MP
Battery Li-Polymer 5400mAh
Charger 12V/ 2Amp
USB Micro USB
Dimensions 241.6 x 188.6 x 9.1 mm
Weight 620 grams
Accessories Power adaptor (with plugs), Quick Start Guide, 1Mobile Market QSG, Compliance information, Micro USB cable
Dude, return the tablet right now. Boycott viewsonic!
Its been over 24hrs with new toy now. Will be posting a review soon. I honestly like the look and feel so much that I'm selling my Galaxy Tab 10. I'll have some money left over as well cause the Viewpad is so cheaply priced. All that extra processor power is not needed for me, I basically use the tab for web browsing, a few notes, check the weather and the kids play angry birds! This pad is definitely suited to the job.
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Dude, return the tablet right now. Boycott viewsonic!
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Ditto. For that price, you are better to go with a much wider support device like the Kindle Fire or Nook Color. Don't expect your new toy to get any substantial update to improve it beyond what it is now. The gTablet community has already been bitten by Viewsonic false promises. Your device will most likely had the same fate.
PS: a no name brand tablet from China can do all you want at an even lower price. Did you choose Viewsonic for the peace of mind of a name brand? Viewsonic don't make their own tablet. They outsource the manufacturing, the software and the support. All they really interest in is take your money.
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Honestly, I was really impressed by the response I had recently from their support dept. I really like the device and I have been through a few to say the least. Seems like it could be quite hackable and I may just use it to learn some new programming skills myself! (If I can drum up some support). In my experience, every forum/thread has loads of people frustrated by lack of support from the manufacturers/resllers but for me, the point of these forums is finding help... Ill keep my fingers crossed that the OEM is discovered soon and after that finding some hacks should get easier.
Third warning about Viewsonic, their products suffer longevity shortfalls. I am now the 3rd person telling you they have the consumer integrity of a wombat. Don't hold your breath waiting for anyone to pick it up and think it will be differently. So many people got burned via the g tablet and it's abhorrent lack of updates from the manufacturer (which when it comes to things like drivers etc for future OS upgrades becomes a critical part of the equation) not many people who have been around the android block are going to make another purchase from Viewsonic so you could very well be alone for the foreseeable future in this purchase. I don't even like having a Viewsonic monitor on my desk at work anymore. Again, take what you are hearing at face value, Viewsonic + android = meh. I enjoyed my g tablet when i purchased it and it does almost all that I need but I hoped for more and have gotten less. Keep it if you like, but 6 months from now when you are looking at another tablet you are going to be hard pressed to find anyone to buy your Viewsonic. The poor reputation flags are there already.
Keep in mind, Viewsonic is the same company that came to XDA saying they wanted feedback and input from this community about the g tablet. That was spring of this year and not a single thing has changed. They did that one firmware update in April and since then it has been nothing but pushed changes that then get pulled back.
Keep it if you are happy with it, I just wouldn't expect anything in terms of a large community ever coming of one of their devices.
It's been almost a year since they promised they'd release an update. Every time I've asked them about update, the only reply I've gotten is "we're working on it." I dare you to find any report of a different response than that.
Viewsonic needs to go back to producing nothing but display monitors and projectors. This company is not ready yet to play with the big boys in the computing market.
US vs UK - not exactly the same...
The G-Tablet was a US only product?!
The Viewpad 10e is only in the UK so far..... 9.7" IPS panel for £199, 9mm thick looks good value to me if your needs are not too demanding
Cant get my 10e to play videos from iplayer, any idea as to why not?
I decided to try one...
Works on live streaming for me from the app but not the others, think it could be to do with the Flash player version, read recently about other tablet users having issues with bandwidth / setting local storage to 0...
Which app did you use, couldn't find one in the 1mobile app store that came on the device
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Which app did you use, couldn't find one in the 1mobile app store that came on the device
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BBC iPlayer 1.04 apk from the web. It still is only working for me with live TV, Flash version 10.3, Flash 11.0 wasn't working...
Will play around with the different versions in the office today
Ok so I now have the Viewpad 10e working with BBC iPlayer.
I used BBC iPlayer 1.0.4 & Flash 10.3.185.25
I put these into a zip file on 4shared, not sure if I am allowed to share the link or not..
Hello
I'm very keen on the Viewpad 10e myself. Has anyone tried out the multimedia side of it? it would be great t be able to play 1080p movies, etc. By the sounds of the 3D stuff that comes with it, it should be a decent GPU in it, would be nice to know how it does.
Custom ROM
Does anyone know how to install a custom ROM on the device?
Hi all
I'm thinking of getting one of these too. But I'm a bit concerened about the 'dated' SC A8 CPU and the dated OS?
Some of the things I will want to do on this is video calling using Skype (yes, I know there are other alternatives, but it has to be Skype) and playing DivX/Xvid movies and some .MKV movies. Could anyone tell me if it will be good enough? I am quite impressed by the dimensions and the screen, but if the specs can't keep up then I'm thinking of a cheap and chunky Tegra 2 tablet like the POV which is actually £10 cheaper and I'll put a custom ViewComb 3.2 ROM on it...
Any suggestions/opinions?
Does anyone know how to root the device?
Just got one for my daughter.
First impressions : well-made bit of kit with a great IPS screen. worth it for the hardware, I would say.
Moon reader pro is great on it, as is perfect viewer for comics and pdf's.
Can't get the video calling working for some reason. Anyone had any joy with this ?
Have tried Tango and Fring. In both cases, the FFC doesn't seem to switch on. You can see the the other person on it, but they can't see you.
Also, with Tango, the mic is switched off, and can't be switched back on.
Some sort of firmware shenanigans going on here. Had a quick chat with Viewsonic customer support just now, who will email me back.
Bit concerned by the negative comments on this thread !
Wanted the archos 101 as HMV were doing it for £129 , but just missed the boat, and then this came to my attention in Argos. Hope I haven't landed a dud !
Well, so far, have managed to get all her bits on it. Their version of market is a bit limited, but there is enough to get you started. Go launcher was a must, after having it on my Galaxy S2 phone, and it seems to cope ok. Formatted some of her films as mp4's and the shipped 'vortex player' handles them well.
Video calling would have been icing on the cake really.
Oh yeah, and whatsapp functionality, but there are ways around that I am looking into now.
Overall so far - promising.
Root and custom rom's would really maximise this thing's potential.
Oh yeah, and won't talk to my macbook pro over bluetooth- first device ever to do that.

I think I was taken :(

I bought a Nextway Fast 9 X from spemall.com as shown here:
http://www.spemall.com/Nextway-F9X-...PS-Screen-2G-Ram-1-5GHz-4K-Video-Black_g.html
After fully charging the tablet I started using it and it froze. I then restarted it and its froze a total of 5 times. Its had errors with the launcher, when opening the apps tab all the images would look like the background but pixelated.
Here is a link to the pictures i took: http://s1232.beta.photobucket.com/user/xstingstreetx/library/Defective
Next, I was able to disable some things for the tablet to run properly without crashing. However, this thing score terrible on benchmarks and is VERY slow moving. The processor is actually 1.08Ghz not 1.5.
I was able to root it thanks to Bin4ry see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Video by Bin4ry see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7EpkrCq1gfM
I was able to overclock on the stock kernel and such to 1.152 stable.
I was hoping someone could help to develop ROMs, Kernels, etc to make this thing work better.
Any and all ideas or feedback is appreciated.
Things that I didnt notice when I bought it is: I dont believe there is bluetooth or GPS
Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
xstingstreetx said:
Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
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so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
krankdroid said:
so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
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Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
xstingstreetx said:
Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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if something sounds to good to be true. it probaly is..
sad to say the chances of someone making a ROM for non-brand products is pretty slim, since most ROM are created on the basis that a device is widely bought and used. Of non-brand phone and tablets there are such a variety that developing for them makes no sense.
Get your money back if you can, and get a branded device. For 200$ you can get a Nexus 7.
if you want the same size and format of the one you got, look around for what samsung, acer, asus, hell even what Point Of View have to offer..
Sorry, but you won't like it -
The main disadvantage of buying a no-brand device is although it may work better the known brands, in case of a fault (software or hardware), you're on your own.... Not many users have flashed/fixed/used this device. So if you brick it, get a bootloop or find a bug, not many can help you.
Not speaking about the variety of ROMs...
I've been there.... I've bought a no-brand phone and after a year it's main PCB failed. I couldn't find a replacement part and had to throw the device away.
Anyway.....
Use the device, enjoy and don't brick it
Sent from my digital submersible hovercraft.
xstingstreetx said:
Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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If the moderators will give me permission, I can give you a link to where there are 4 custom ROMs for this tablet. I have installed the BETA4 and it better utilizes the Retina Display (unless you have bad eyes, and there is one geared for that one as the defective one you are using does). I honestly don't know if your problem can be helped with software, but it might... I can also give you a link to the newest stock ROM and a Windows app to install it. I would rather get permission first to post 2 direct links... one is to Arctablet (and you can do a Google or DuckDuckGo search and find it by the way) and the other one is to a tablet distributor who was good enough to create download links and instructions on how to use the hokey Chinese installer. The question is though, is your problem hardware or a botched ROM?
It does not have Bluetooth or GPS. My Archos outdoes it in that way, but it is a true quad-core retina display and mine works very nicely... nicer now that I have the better use of the resolution available. Its wildly vivid. I honestly can find no real issues other than a few I had from not wiping the thing before I flashed it (oddly it suggested I not do so... which caused me grief w/Google Play eventually). It comes rooted, and if you have one of those that are like partly-rooted or whatever some call it, do a factory reset and it will come back fully rooted. The ROMs of course are all rooted. I have a cheap 10.2", which honestly if I had not had something else would have given me ulcers, but hey... I only paid $14 for it from Quibids (including bid prices), so I can't complain. This one cost me around $150 with a few extras, so a little grief I can handle. But so far... those are interesting words... so far, it is actually very impressive. My daughter has a boyfriend who is an Apple fanatic, and he's kind of fixated on it from certain similarities to what he is coveting these days.
I have it going at 1.2ghz (quad-core), although I have gotten it up to just under the 1.5ghz it claims (1440). It will do it, but I wouldn't bet on its stability. It comes at 1.0 preset from manufacturer, but is easily changed with the cpu app of your choice. I use Setcpu... works for me. It has 2gb ram... can't complain.
I read some arguments on the cameras, but I don't see it... I took some pics tonight of my daughter on her way to a costume party... they are the best thing I have this side of my Kodak. I'm sure it takes better video than the Kodak though. Anyway... its responsive, sharp, and does what I want. You have to buy a Bluetooth dongle for next to nothing to have Bluetooth though for some bizarre reason it shows its there. The one page that I mentioned gives advice along with pics on how to do some interesting mods to it. It is capable of more than they shipped it with. I am sorry that you are having troubles with yours... I don't know if you still have yours or not. I've only had this a few weeks. If you are interested, let me know... and if the moderators allow it, I will post links.
I hate that you have had such grief with yours. If I can help, I am willing.

Buying a Sony Tablet S finally!!!

Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
freelancer81 said:
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
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The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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freelancer81 said:
I wouldn't root it immediately.
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Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
jumper62 said:
The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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NerdiX said:
Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
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Thanks for your concern.
Yeah...I have thought about it too.
But the price is about more than double...
Rs. 19,990 for Sony Tablet S and Rs. 46,990 for Xperia Tab Z
That was too much for me...
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
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Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN).
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The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive. All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android. I do not foresee Sony releasing anymore firmware updates for the STS, but then again, my tablets perform well and do what they were specified to do, so are any updates really necessary? No, not in my opinion. So, if you know what the STS can and cannot do, and you feel it will meet your needs, then I say buy it.
I also own a Sony Xperia Tablet Z. The XTZ display-wise and performance-wise is a better tablet than the STS; however, hardware-wise it fails in comparison with the STS when it comes to port access and ruggedness. The XTZ is a dainty tablet, the STS is a manly tablet.
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The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive.
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Hi Cat McGowan!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts....It means a lot with all the hype going on that this STS is costly and have no future since it will not support newer android versions.
You have made me really stand steadfast and want to own it all the more!
I have two laptops, a PC (all Core i7 processors)....if i needed any horse-powered work done, I have those.
The STS will just be a take-a-break device while lazying on the couch or bed with a movie or two and some light entertainments/games or when I am commuting.
I must admire you for owning 4 STSs!!!!!
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All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android.
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Does it support 3G?
From Sony India's website, I see that the one I am about to buy is Android™ 3.2.with WiFi and 3G.
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two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters
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I am yet to reach that stage :laugh: but my daughter is going to be 4 this August. The way she's meddling with my phone, she'll be the absolute owner of the tablet once I buy it.
Ubichinon said:
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
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Yeah...you are right.
But as I have said, the upgrading (to JB) is not an issue with me. I believe it gives me all I want plus something which is rare on other devices - the IR Blaster feature. Maybe Samsung has got it in the new devices but they costs too much.
For me, though it may be an average device with average component/hardware with average performance with no future support/update/upgrade, it has all that I need in one neat package.
Thanks for your concern though....cheers!!!
so so sad....
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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What is the highest price you would pay for a tablet?, I found a few.
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I found a few.
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I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
freelancer81 said:
I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 since it is the latest.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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The S-pen is just amazing on the Note 10.1 Id advice you to get it.
freelancer81 said:
I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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Yeah it can be a bit difficult deciding between 2 good devices.
It is either the Atom processor or the S-Pen.
The S-Pen seems pretty awesome but in the same time the Atom processor will give it a ultimate boost in performance.
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You know what...these companies just toy with us.
You will not find any device with all the good/best features.
They will add a particular feature to one model/device only, and another new feature to a different model/device.
Everyone would be happy if they put all their eggs in one basket!!
Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
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Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
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Thanks for the concern and insight.
Anyway, I've just place an order for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-N8000 for Rs.36000 INR (about $591.73 USD)
Thanks everyone for all your help in making the decision.
I guess I will now be active in the GT-N8000 forum now...see you all there!:highfive::highfive::highfive:
The sony tablet S was the worst decision I made.
The sdcard handling still sucks. No custom roms possible. Sony refuses to update it at all. And so on. Ill never ever again buy a android product produced by sony!
freelancer81 said:
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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I have my STS which i am trying to sell because I have moved on to a newer one. If interested mail me @coolaks[email protected]

Should i (or would you) buy Nexus 9 now or wait some time for new devices?

Hello everyone,
Sorry for pretty dumb question, but i hope you could give me advice! I'll explain my situation a bit, i currently own 10" Chinese Onda tablet, performance is pretty awful, battery life also (~1 hr of reading/browsing can drain 40%), i use it mainly for browsing and reading because gaming is impossible (from one side it is good, because i can spend more time with my family ) ) i never take it out, mainly because of battery life..
So from one side i can live with it with my needs like reading, books and browsing, from the other side it lag's like hell, crashes and battery, well as i said...
So i tried to look for some more descent alternative (one of it could be eReader, but then i still would need another device for lazy browsing or some apps, so i'am more on the tablet side). So i checked what is on the market today and i could get Nexus 9 16 GB for about 300 EUR on Amazon. And as BlackFriday is landing i'am hoping for some discounts, so i'am wandering, should i grab Nexus 9 if it would be available for let's say 250 EUR? What concerns' me is how future proof will it be? Dual-core + 2GB ram seems to be pretty low for today. What i like that it is supported both by Google bot Custom ROM's, so while it is popular device it will have at least some support. But maybe it is too late to buy one today and be patient and wait for future device?
I don't feel like paying more than 300 EUR in any case for tablet, though i could afford it i just don't justify it as proper "investment"
So, that it! Thans for your help and opinion.
UPD: What about new NVIDIA SHIELD K1? What is your opinion, seems like super deal for 200EUR? Maybe except screen size and aspect ratio.
300 Euros is way too expensive for this tablet. Even 250 is too much. If this tablet had a Nexus 5 level of speed and smoothness, it would be worth it. Unfortunately, on stock, it doesn't. As they haven't sorted it out properly in a year now, I don't think they ever will. :crying:
In the UK at the moment, Argos are selling the 16GB version for £150. This is a more reasonable price.
If you are on a budget, I'd also consider the LG V500. Its still on 4.4.2, but the performance is great and it has an SD Card slot. If you know where to look, you can pick one up for £100/145 Euro. the V510 from the US is even better. :victory:
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300 Euros is way too expensive for this tablet. Even 250 is too much. If this tablet had a Nexus 5 level of speed and smoothness, it would be worth it. Unfortunately, on stock, it doesn't. As they haven't sorted it out properly in a year now, I don't think they ever will. :crying:
In the UK at the moment, Argos are selling the 16GB version for £150. This is a more reasonable price.
If you are on a budget, I'd also consider the LG V500. Its still on 4.4.2, but the performance is great and it has an SD Card slot. If you know where to look, you can pick one up for £100/145 Euro. the V510 from the US is even better. :victory:
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Hi, thanks for your input. I can't find any deal at Argos for £150 :/ About LG, i don't like ones that drop support for their devices.
What everyone think about new NVIDIA SHIELD K1? It will have Marshmallow, 3D performance should be awesome, also i should be able to utilize my GTX 970 here, and it cost £150, only downside for me is screen size, but it is just IMHO, i never used such aspect ratio.
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Hi, thanks for your input. I can't find any deal at Argos for £150 :/ About LG, i don't like ones that drop support for their devices.
What everyone think about new NVIDIA SHIELD K1? It will have Marshmallow, 3D performance should be awesome, also i should be able to utilize my GTX 970 here, and it cost £150, only downside for me is screen size, but it is just IMHO, i never used such aspect ratio.
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Yes I take your point regarding LG. If you could get a V510, its a GPE device making it almost Nexus.
I cant comment on the Nvidia shield. It does seem strange to me however that the original Nexus 7 had memory issues and the Nexus 9 has memory issues. The both used Nvidia SoC as oppose to Snapdragon. Maybe just a coincidence? I've never had any issues with devices using SD SoC.
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Yes I take your point regarding LG. If you could get a V510, its a GPE device making it almost Nexus.
I cant comment on the Nvidia shield. It does seem strange to me however that the original Nexus 7 had memory issues and the Nexus 9 has memory issues. The both used Nvidia SoC as oppose to Snapdragon. Maybe just a coincidence? I've never had any issues with devices using SD SoC.
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V510 from US would cost around 200EUR, and GPE seems to be dead already
New shield seems very interesting device... My hands are itching
I like the Nex9.
I bought the 32GB for $305 shipped and got a nice $12 case, so basically $320 total and I am very pleased. I was mainly concerned with battery life as I like to sometimes leave it alone for 3-4 days and want to have a charge.
I am on Pure Nexus ROM, but even on stock mra58n build I was able to leave it overnight and only lose 3-4% battery. So I can leave it around for say 5 days and still have at least 70% battery.
I get around 6 hours SOT so far from my use but I've only had it a short while so I expect it to only get better as it calibrates.
It has its faults, and something better I am sure may be on the way, but you may find a great deal on black Friday and I would jump on it.
When I saw the 40% off from HTC I did and am glad I did.
Best of luck.
I was a frustrated N9 owner until MM. I still can't believe it! The lag has not returned as it always had within a month of each of my six wipes over the past 10 mos. I tried DU and ran Elementalx. Lag remained and reboots (up to 3x daily) continued. Each flash was a complete wipe. Chrome (I use beta) is still a battery hog--probably what causes the heat, but it's my choice to use it. My tab works the way it always should have. I'm running xposed with gravity box. Everything is running well. For the first time, I can recommend this tablet--especially if you can grab the next HTC 40% off deal over Thanksgiving.
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Thinking About Getting a Nexus 9

My mom is in the market for a new tablet since the last one is officially ancient. I was considering getting a nexus 9 for her because it fairly affordable in the aftermarket. I was wondering if you guys had any testimonies or experiences you wanted to share about the tablet. Looking forward to reading them.... Thanks!
l_4Fhit_l said:
My mom is in the market for a new tablet since the last one is officially ancient. I was considering getting a nexus 9 for her because it fairly affordable in the aftermarket. I was wondering if you guys had any testimonies or experiences you wanted to share about the tablet. Looking forward to reading them.... Thanks!
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My advice: don't! Your chances of getting a dud are higher than ever. I've had mine for over 2 yrs. It requires regular (every 6 weeks) wipes due to slow-downs and freezes (used to bootloop, too). It's very likely I'm older than your mom (69, in fact), but Android is a hobby so I just do what has to be done to keep my N9 working. Can she maintain it if it's a dud, too? Although a lot of N9 owners who've posted in these forums never had any issues, many of us have. I don't know if she's Apple-familiar, but the newest iPad is actually a pretty good deal. Otherwise, I can't help. I still keep my N9 because nothing else has come along to entice me. I bought it for the larger display, and that has never disappointed me. It's not only large but very clear and crisp. In the end, I will say that I will NEVER buy another HTC product despite how may "great" devices they may have put on the market. JMO.
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DON'T
Edit: I should not have been so terse. I would not recommend the Nexus 9 to anyone.
Do not purchase this tablet. Purchase a pixel tablet if you want to have a better experience
l_4Fhit_l said:
My mom is in the market for a new tablet since the last one is officially ancient. I was considering getting a nexus 9 for her because it fairly affordable in the aftermarket. I was wondering if you guys had any testimonies or experiences you wanted to share about the tablet. Looking forward to reading them.... Thanks!
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Hi, l_4Fhit_l...
I echo the sentiments of the previous posters and their comments.
DO NOT BUY A NEXUS 9 unless you can get one for a ridiculously cheap price AND you're technically capable of dealing with it when things go wrong...
As they sometimes do...
For example, I've just had another (yep, not the first time) hard and spectacular crash on my own Nexus 9, whilst doing something no more taxing on the hardware than performing a simple Google search via the persistant search bar in Nova launcher, and which resulted in a pixellated mess on the screen and a screeching cacophony emanating from the speakers. (See attached photo.)
It required two 'forced' power-downs (long press on the power button) and reboots to get the device up and running again .
I was thinking (after the second failure to boot) I'd have to reflash the thing from scratch. Which is something I've done many times before, but it's a time consuming chore - fortunately the device rebooted without issues the second time I forced powered it down.
The Nexus 9 is OK (not 'great', but 'OK') when it works... A pain-in-the-fundament when it doesn't!
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So... I recommend you look elsewhere for a tablet. One of the above posters recommended an iPad. My mum (she's 75) has one and has absolutely no problems with it.
Rgrds,
Ged.
There seems to be consensus I guess ... Thank you all for your input. I wanted to get my mom something that was cheap and that ran or could run stock android because that is what she is familiar with. Any recommendations?
l_4Fhit_l said:
There seems to be consensus I guess ... Thank you all for your input. I wanted to get my mom something that was cheap and that ran or could run stock android because that is what she is familiar with. Any recommendations?
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Size? Stock Android could be an issue unless you want something you can root. Samsung has some nice tablets (tab A, for one) that don't cost the entire bank but they do run Samsung software over Android. Amazon fire tablets come in a wide variety of sizes, features, with matching prices. I've never had one so can't speak to the software.
Take a look here http://www.androidauthority.com/cheap-android-tablets-268082/ and here http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/best-cheap-tablets-top-budget-options-1314545
I have no idea where you live, but if you are or you know someone who is a Costco member, they have the 8" Tab A for $130.+ $10. Shipping for the next few weeks. I don't know if the price is same in store.
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Oh, come on. It's not that bad. It's fine with 7.1.
If I bought a tablet today, I would buy N9. (Not Pixel C, it's big and heavy.)
I love it, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone ever though.
Unrooted, stock, came home today and the OS is toast, going to have to re-flash and set up again. This is the second or third time in two years. The thing literally does nothing for me other than run a book reader app and has bombed doing nothing.
It also sometimes decides not to charge. Not a bad connection, not a bad charger, it just decides it's going to run the battery to past dead and then once you unplug and plug it back in - bam, oh hey you wanted to charge? yeah gimme a couple hours before you get anything on the screen.
Meanwhile rocking multiple HTC products (who also manufactured the Nexus 9) and have only once since 2013 had the experiences I've had multiple times with the 9 since 2016.
Plus if you suspect the battery is at fault, well, good luck finding one.
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Oh, come on. It's not that bad. It's fine with 7.1.
If I bought a tablet today, I would buy N9. (Not Pixel C, it's big and heavy.)
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So glad you got one of the good ones.
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mutlucan96 said:
Oh, come on. It's not that bad. It's fine with 7.1.
If I bought a tablet today, I would buy N9. (Not Pixel C, it's big and heavy.)
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So glad you got one of the good ones.
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I agree with him!
But like you said Im one if the lucky ones.
The only major thing the N9 got wrong is the ram size.
2GB 64bit lol
ohh jeez. i just joing this forum cause i purchase one a few hours ago. on facebook ad for $60 could pass the deal for this tablet. so far is running great and looks brand new. but most u are talking long term. in a few week or a month. lets see how that goes. cause my nexus 7 2013 is also working rock solid.
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ohh jeez. i just joing this forum cause i purchase one a few hours ago. on facebook ad for $60 could pass the deal for this tablet. so far is running great and looks brand new. but most u are talking long term. in a few week or a month. lets see how that goes. cause my nexus 7 2013 is also working rock solid.
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Welcome!! :highfive:
I just bought a Nvidia shield tablet from eBay for $200. It was between the Nexus 9 and the shield tablet... Wish I had bought the shield a few weeks ago when Nvidia was still selling them. Or even a year ago.. its a two year old tablet and still the best.. They are really hard to find now, sold out on swappa and pulled from all storefronts. I checked eBay every few hours for a day and found one in pristine condition... It's still in the mail. All the rest of them on there are priced well over $200... It would have been the perfect tablet for her if you could find one. It's got front facing speakers, same cpu/gpu as the Nexus 9. Better build quality. Nearly stock Android. Sd card slot. Hdmi output to easily plug into tv. The shield K1 literally has it all, only beaten by the pixel c with the x1 cpu.. which is over priced and too big for my tastes, doesn't have a sd card slot and doesn't support adapters to HDMI.
Regardless I'd suggest the Pixel C, it's the best tablet if you don't mind it's price, size/weight and lack of sdcard slot as they only sell the 32gb varient now for $600. It's pure Android and will receive all the latest updates before any non pixel device. Or just take the gamble and get a Nexus 9... They are selling for 290 for the 32gb black varient atm which was tempting to me... But I've read nothing but troubles with that devices hardware that I've decided to stay away.
So far the tablet is wonderfull. Fast and good bild quality. Problems are only the backlight (im use to amoled gs8 plus). And the sound is good but i heard it was much better before the last few update which is the question i want to ask.
We probably wont get anymore update since it is official this table is not getting 7.1.2. Should i root? It says installing a new kernel fix the audio problem.
Other than that. Best $60 i have ever spend. Dont go spending $200. U can find it so low on craiglist, offerup, facebook ad. I had 3 guy say yes to $70. And this one i got was $60 but he was a few miles from my house.
just an update.
i unlocked bootloaded,
installed lineage os
elemental X kernel
root
underclock cpu to 2ghz
underclock gpu to 650mhz
using mini bowser instead of chrome
this tablet is amazing. fast. does not heat up, getting around 10 hour SOT. gaming even underclock perform incrediable. rigtide 2 runs at 60fps max resoultion. no hicup just like my ipad pro.
my only concern right now is not even the ram. is only having 4gb left storage. 16gb model is just not enough. 64gb would have been sweet.
l_4Fhit_l said:
There seems to be consensus I guess ... Thank you all for your input. I wanted to get my mom something that was cheap and that ran or could run stock android because that is what she is familiar with. Any recommendations?
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Oh wow,
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Nexus 7 (2013)!!
If your mother doesn't mind a smaller 7" tablet, it's the perfect choice!
Same amount of RAM as N9, it's rock solid, still gets support in XDA (You could set it up for your mother, and check up on it once a month or something.)
I had a great N9, owned it for nearly 2 years...not one glitch.
Then it was stolen
Now my GF bought me a new one last xmas, and it just isn't the same...very slow and laggy.
So I can confirm what people have said, some units aren't up to standard.

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