Buying a Sony Tablet S finally!!! - Sony Tablet S

Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!

freelancer81 said:
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
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The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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freelancer81 said:
I wouldn't root it immediately.
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Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!

jumper62 said:
The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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NerdiX said:
Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
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Thanks for your concern.
Yeah...I have thought about it too.
But the price is about more than double...
Rs. 19,990 for Sony Tablet S and Rs. 46,990 for Xperia Tab Z
That was too much for me...

I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.

freelancer81 said:
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN).
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The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive. All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android. I do not foresee Sony releasing anymore firmware updates for the STS, but then again, my tablets perform well and do what they were specified to do, so are any updates really necessary? No, not in my opinion. So, if you know what the STS can and cannot do, and you feel it will meet your needs, then I say buy it.
I also own a Sony Xperia Tablet Z. The XTZ display-wise and performance-wise is a better tablet than the STS; however, hardware-wise it fails in comparison with the STS when it comes to port access and ruggedness. The XTZ is a dainty tablet, the STS is a manly tablet.

Cat McGowan said:
The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive.
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Hi Cat McGowan!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts....It means a lot with all the hype going on that this STS is costly and have no future since it will not support newer android versions.
You have made me really stand steadfast and want to own it all the more!
I have two laptops, a PC (all Core i7 processors)....if i needed any horse-powered work done, I have those.
The STS will just be a take-a-break device while lazying on the couch or bed with a movie or two and some light entertainments/games or when I am commuting.
I must admire you for owning 4 STSs!!!!!
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All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android.
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Does it support 3G?
From Sony India's website, I see that the one I am about to buy is Android™ 3.2.with WiFi and 3G.
Cat McGowan said:
two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters
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I am yet to reach that stage :laugh: but my daughter is going to be 4 this August. The way she's meddling with my phone, she'll be the absolute owner of the tablet once I buy it.

Ubichinon said:
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
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Yeah...you are right.
But as I have said, the upgrading (to JB) is not an issue with me. I believe it gives me all I want plus something which is rare on other devices - the IR Blaster feature. Maybe Samsung has got it in the new devices but they costs too much.
For me, though it may be an average device with average component/hardware with average performance with no future support/update/upgrade, it has all that I need in one neat package.
Thanks for your concern though....cheers!!!

so so sad....
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.

freelancer81 said:
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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What is the highest price you would pay for a tablet?, I found a few.
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andyabc said:
I found a few.
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I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:

freelancer81 said:
I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 since it is the latest.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.

freelancer81 said:
I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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The S-pen is just amazing on the Note 10.1 Id advice you to get it.

freelancer81 said:
I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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Yeah it can be a bit difficult deciding between 2 good devices.
It is either the Atom processor or the S-Pen.
The S-Pen seems pretty awesome but in the same time the Atom processor will give it a ultimate boost in performance.
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You know what...these companies just toy with us.
You will not find any device with all the good/best features.
They will add a particular feature to one model/device only, and another new feature to a different model/device.
Everyone would be happy if they put all their eggs in one basket!!

Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.

Warren_Orange said:
Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
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Thanks for the concern and insight.
Anyway, I've just place an order for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-N8000 for Rs.36000 INR (about $591.73 USD)
Thanks everyone for all your help in making the decision.
I guess I will now be active in the GT-N8000 forum now...see you all there!:highfive::highfive::highfive:

The sony tablet S was the worst decision I made.
The sdcard handling still sucks. No custom roms possible. Sony refuses to update it at all. And so on. Ill never ever again buy a android product produced by sony!

freelancer81 said:
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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I have my STS which i am trying to sell because I have moved on to a newer one. If interested mail me @coolaks[email protected]

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if you are going to upgrade or replace,which tablet will it be?

which tablet do you have in.mind as an upgrade for this?
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Do you mind to share why you are thinking of upgrading or replacing?
I am a very satisfied user of the GT10.1 - there is no need to rush for upgrades or replacement now.
Maybe next year with ICS and Quad-Core CPU's there will be some reason to upgrade.
I would recommend to you to sit down and enjoy your GT10.1 until a significantly better and more powerful tablet becomes available.
There is no better option today - simple as that!
If you don't like some minor lags and bugs present on Honeycomb, you can try the iPad2. I tried and gave up - I really don't adapt to Apple's limited iOS, I like the freedom to customize and play with the OS - and only Android can give me that.
And looking on other Android tablets, I went for the GT10.1 because of its weight and thickness - which was important to me, because my primary use is for ebook handheld reading.
My sincere advice - enjoy your tablet and wait for mid-2012 - there will be plenty of new options by then!
dhuewes said:
Do you mind to share why you are thinking of upgrading or replacing?
I am a very satisfied user of the GT10.1 - there is no need to rush for upgrades or replacement now.
Maybe next year with ICS and Quad-Core CPU's there will be some reason to upgrade.
I would recommend to you to sit down and enjoy your GT10.1 until a significantly better and more powerful tablet becomes available.
There is no better option today - simple as that!
If you don't like some minor lags and bugs present on Honeycomb, you can try the iPad2. I tried and gave up - I really don't adapt to Apple's limited iOS, I like the freedom to customize and play with the OS - and only Android can give me that.
And looking on other Android tablets, I went for the GT10.1 because of its weight and thickness - which was important to me, because my primary use is for ebook handheld reading.
My sincere advice - enjoy your tablet and wait for mid-2012 - there will be plenty of new options by then!
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Man I couldn't have said it any better myself!!!
I'm with you m8, I think most people who post asking when the next os update is coming out or what the next device your going to upgrade to are really missing out. Instead of worrying about all that... Just enjoy.
And in my honest opinion the GT10. 1 is on the top of the heap right now... I had an Xoom for a week, took it back. I have a EVO View 4G that I use for work and my Tab knocks both of them out of the water.
Sent from my Galaxy10.1 TouchWiz/ADWex equipped Starship.
Instead of replacing I like to have more than one. I was tempted by Sony S1 but held myself from buying it. (Just for PSX games. But no HDMI on board.) I had a Transformer for a week. I have a GTAB 7 which I rarely use now. I love 10.1, but I miss the sim, and sd slots there. USB adapter is not the best solution. I really dont care how thin or light it is. My next tablet will not be a Samsung this time. I am really tired of waiting for them to update the firmware. I did manual update for Gtab7. S1 is getting 3.2 update now. Xoom and others too. I think I will wait this time for a quad core.... and I am very tempted for a windows 8 slate, but market and battery issues with W8 is a question mark.
I am in the camp of loving my tab. I don't even think about other tablets. I picked mine up on launch day in the u.s. and in the 3 months that I have had it we received the touchwiz update. With word of ICS coming this fall I see no reason for Samsung to spend any resources on honeycomb 3.2, really what is the point to spending all those development resources on 3.2 when everybody will be moving to ICS?
You also have to wonder just how much improvement the new processors will affect what tablets can do. You will hear people say that newer tablets can do this or that but if you look at how technology evolves, the improvement comes in steps, not giant leaps. I personally am not going to drop $500 plus on a new tablet and accessories every year, although Best Buy would love that. Did you buy a new desktop computer every year? This doesn't just pertain to android either, other than weight and a crappy camera, what does the ipad 2 do that the first can't?
I bet in one year in the transformer 2 or xoom 2 forums there will be a thread that reads, "was upgrading really worth it?" Or "why is there only a handful of apps that utilize the quad core?"
I also understand that there are people who absolutely have to have the newest tech and play around with it. Like a hobby. But then there are also others who just never will be satisfied with what they have.
Personally I think I will wait and upgrade every two years like my phones so that you can see marked improvement and give time for developers to increase the amount of content that is compatible with newer devices. Sure I can want more ports and not just a 30 pin connector but I knew this when I bought the tab, so I can't really complain about it. Long story short- I use my tab every day, getting my moneys worth, see you in two years on another forum.
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Depending on how the Next gen honeycomb tablets bring to the gameboard i might just wait it out for a ipad 3... personally i own a galaxy tab 10.1 atm its really good serves all my needs except for hdmi output...
I am eagerly awaiting the HP Touchpad 2.
More seriously, I just dropped several hundred on the Samsung 10.1 a few months ago so why bother with crippling my enjoyment by worrying about obsolescence? There will no doubt be something newer and better soon enough, but I doubt it will be able to do anything more other than this one and feature only incremental improvements.
The Windows 8 Tablets will suck for home use unless they actually relase an ARM version of that OS. I wouldn't want to cuddle up on the couch with a tablet that had a cooling fan.
Lookout for the iPad 3,though. It just might be slick enough to excuse Apple's restrictions.
reNeglect said:
Depending on how the Next gen honeycomb tablets bring to the gameboard i might just wait it out for a ipad 3... personally i own a galaxy tab 10.1 atm its really good serves all my needs except for hdmi output...
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Sorry, but today I spent hours playing Crash Bandicoot on my 55" Samsung TV. Fpse+ps3 joypad+Samsung hdmi adapter. So I am quite happy with the hdmi out. No flickering. Only I don't have all screen estate. Bars both sides.
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If I had the cash to toss around I would seriously be looking at the Toshiba Excite that's about to come out. Don't know too much about specs but it has on board microUSB, USB, and a microSD card slot, on a surprisingly thin body. That would be pretty cool.
xoom2 for me, i've had the xoom but took it back and now i have the sgt 10.1. It has been stated that a quad core ics tablet will be out before christmas so i will probably take back this sgt and wait for that.

[Done] I purchased a galaxy tab 8.9

Hey guys!
I am in the market for a new 7" android tablet. My motivation for getting one is so that I can read PDFs on the go. I am a student and being able to read stuff on the go is a huge plus to me and my phone's 4.3 inch screen, be that it is huge real estate for a phone, is just too small for reading.
Why specifically 7 inch? Well, when I discussed with friends, I learned that 7 inch tablets are much lighter and easier to carry around. Plus they are easier to pull out off your bag and read on a cramped bus, and given that I go to college the university shuttle is *very* cramped. Plus they are cheaper. So, there it is. I am hunting for a good 7 inch tablet.
I have two options in mind right now. (A) Amazon kindle fire. It is dirt cheap and does the job, i.e. read PDFs. Cons, it is a very basic tablet and is very underpowered. It has other drawbacks, such as no SD card slot, no out of the box market support and it runs Gingerbread. Eww. (B) Samsung galaxy tab 7.0 plus. It is great, nice and everything and it is Honeycomb and is well powered.
I want to choose a Tablet that has an unlocked bootloader, has the least hardware/software issues and glitches and that has a vibrant dev community. So, people please suggest a tablet in this vein!
Thanks in advance!
Galaxy tab for sure.
Couple of gals I know have KF, it's cheap...and for it's specs it's pretty snappy
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Playbook?
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I read about the Galaxy Tab 7.7 inch. Man, I hate to buy a Galaxy Tab 7.0 at the cusp of the release of the 7.7... It is such a ***** to buy a piece of tech, just to see it get outdated in a week or a month!
I hate all these companies releasing gadgets soo quickly!
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Does anyone know the purported price of the 7.7" one? If it is too costly, I'll close my eyes and pick the 7.0". Else, I may have to wait!
Depending on your price range, there's a good one on groupon
litetaker said:
I read about the Galaxy Tab 7.7 inch. Man, I hate to buy a Galaxy Tab 7.0 at the cusp of the release of the 7.7... It is such a ***** to buy a piece of tech, just to see it get outdated in a week or a month!
I hate all these companies releasing gadgets soo quickly!
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Does anyone know the purported price of the 7.7" one? If it is too costly, I'll close my eyes and pick the 7.0". Else, I may have to wait!
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newegg.com they aren't to pricey...maybe $399. Last I saw
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Pixelation said:
newegg.com they aren't to pricey...maybe $399. Last I saw
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Are you talking off the Galaxy tab 7.7? Give link, s'il vous plait?
litetaker said:
Are you talking off the Galaxy tab 7.7? Give link, s'il vous plait?
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Yes the new GT line.....in a bit bud I'll hop on my PC
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Given how frustrated I am with the Droid X2, I am taking every precaution possible to ensure that my next purchase isn't a giant pain in the ass. So, I went ahead and posted a thread in the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus's XDA forum. I hope I get some good responses that will help me make a decision!
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Given how frustrated I am with the Droid X2, I am taking every precaution possible to ensure that my next purchase isn't a giant pain in the ass. So, I went ahead and posted a thread in the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus's XDA forum. I hope I get some good responses that will help me make a decision!
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131221
here is a link to all GT newegg has http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...msung Galaxy Tab&name=SAMSUNG&Order=BESTMATCH
Guys, I just learned that the Galaxy Tab 7.0 plus has some issues:
1. Something called SOD (sleep of Death) 2. Some WiFi troubles.
I tried asking the people in the Galaxy Tab 8.9 forum about issues it has. I didn't get a reply yet.
I have a few queries though. Compared to a 7 inch tablet, how less portable is a 8.9 inch one? Is it just as portable that I should be able to pull it out in a crowded bus and read a PDF file on it just fine?
Secondly, the 8.9 does NOT have a SD card slot. Now, that is a downer. No way to freely expand memory.
BUT: The Galaxy 8.9 has ICS/CM9 ROMs!!! That alone can sway me towards Galaxy Tab 8.9. Granted the 7.0 plus may get ICS too, but looks like it hardly has any ROMs at all. And there was one thread there asking whether devs are looking into coding for it and the reply was the devs may wait till official ICS is out, since it is a PITA to dev without proper drivers available. Hmm...
What do you guys say?
litetaker said:
Guys, I just learned that the Galaxy Tab 7.0 plus has some issues:
1. Something called SOD (sleep of Death) 2. Some WiFi troubles.
I tried asking the people in the Galaxy Tab 8.9 forum about issues it has. I didn't get a reply yet.
I have a few queries though. Compared to a 7 inch tablet, how less portable is a 8.9 inch one? Is it just as portable that I should be able to pull it out in a crowded bus and read a PDF file on it just fine?
Secondly, the 8.9 does NOT have a SD card slot. Now, that is a downer. No way to freely expand memory.
BUT: The Galaxy 8.9 has ICS/CM9 ROMs!!! That alone can sway me towards Galaxy Tab 8.9. Granted the 7.0 plus may get ICS too, but looks like it hardly has any ROMs at all. And there was one thread there asking whether devs are looking into coding for it and the reply was the devs may wait till official ICS is out, since it is a PITA to dev without proper drivers available. Hmm...
What do you guys say?
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Xyboard? Transformer Prime, how much do you want to spend
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I'd rather get mugged than buy a Xyboard.
DaveRichardson said:
I'd rather get mugged than buy a Xyboard.
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LOL!
Well, I am not planning at Transformer prime level monies! As I said in the OP, I am planning to get a 7-8 inch tablet for the portability.
I am considering the Galaxy Tab 8.9 vs Galaxy tab 7.0 plus. As far as portability is concerned, is the Galaxy tab 8.9 just as portable as the 7.0 plus? For instance, can I pull either of them out of my bag in a crowded bus and read a PDF (of course while sitting).
Well, I don't have a lot of experience with any of them except the xoom. I've owned one for almost a year now. It's a bit larger than what you're looking for but when it comes to custom roms, mods, or what have you, there's plenty to choose from. The bootloader can be unlocked so there's already a bunch of ICS roms available for it (CM9 included). Plus a pretty good selection of custom kernels to choose from. I'm not sure about the Xyboard. Is it un-lockable? Don't know. Whatever you buy, do your homework. If you can't unlock it, I'd pass. Unless you don't care about changing things.
Custom roms will get you things like support for external USB drives, keyboards, mice and what have you. Perhaps they are coming with support for those things built in now. I don't know. They are things worth having though. IMHO.
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Well, I don't have a lot of experience with any of them except the xoom. I've owned one for almost a year now. It's a bit larger than what you're looking for but when it comes to custom roms, mods, or what have you, there's plenty to choose from. The bootloader can be unlocked so there's already a bunch of ICS roms available for it (CM9 included). Plus a pretty good selection of custom kernels to choose from. I'm not sure about the Xyboard. Is it un-lockable? Don't know. Whatever you buy, do your homework. If you can't unlock it, I'd pass. Unless you don't care about changing things.
Custom roms will get you things like support for external USB drives, keyboards, mice and what have you. Perhaps they are coming with support for those things built in now. I don't know. They are things worth having though. IMHO.
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Do you find your Xoom portable? I.e. is it easy to take out in the bus to read? Seems like this is my standard portability test!
Is it too heavy or can you easily hold it in your hand and read stuff on it?
EDIT: So, now I have the choice of the Xoom, Tab 7.0 plus and 8.9!!! Damn it. I started with 7.0 plus and now the list has grown to 3!
I'll just go to Best buy and try all three of them and see which I like best. Plus the best bang for the buck factor too...
Well, I have a friend who has a Kindle Fire and, well, to tell you the truth, I don't see mine being any harder to get out of the bag than that thing. It's something though that I can't really say is right for you or not. For me, if the money isn't an issue, I'd go for more screen real-estate any time. They aren't THAT big. Just my thoughts on it. You might feel differently.
What about the Acer tablets?
I know the Acer Iconia 100 is on the way out but I'm sure there will be something to replace its 7" form factor. I've been looking at the Acer Iconia 200 - WiFi only, SD card slot, 8 or 16GB memory. good prices (sub $400 for the 200). Micro USB and full size USB host. Most of the reviews have been pretty positive that I have seen. And the 200 has ICS now.
litetaker said:
Hey guys!
I am in the market for a new 7" android tablet. My motivation for getting one is so that I can read PDFs on the go. I am a student and being able to read stuff on the go is a huge plus to me and my phone's 4.3 inch screen, be that it is huge real estate for a phone, is just too small for reading.
Why specifically 7 inch? Well, when I discussed with friends, I learned that 7 inch tablets are much lighter and easier to carry around. Plus they are easier to pull out off your bag and read on a cramped bus, and given that I go to college the university shuttle is *very* cramped. Plus they are cheaper. So, there it is. I am hunting for a good 7 inch tablet.
I have two options in mind right now. (A) Amazon kindle fire. It is dirt cheap and does the job, i.e. read PDFs. Cons, it is a very basic tablet and is very underpowered. It has other drawbacks, such as no SD card slot, no out of the box market support and it runs Gingerbread. Eww. (B) Samsung galaxy tab 7.0 plus. It is great, nice and everything and it is Honeycomb and is well powered.
I want to choose a Tablet that has an unlocked bootloader, has the least hardware/software issues and glitches and that has a vibrant dev community. So, people please suggest a tablet in this vein!
Thanks in advance!
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Money range from you in OP is NOT stated...sooooo I will assume the best.
Size I'm sure is an issue, and you want more portability...sooooo just go buy one dude, they alp have return policies, and who knows...usually gut feeling is wrong, and the other choice is right.
Right now the GT looks and operates bad ass, you are asking for opinions don't forget.
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I was going to tell you about the galaxy tab before I even see your choices. I had the 10.1 before, and I have to say that Samsung have the best devices ever. Go for the Tab definetly

Nexus 7, what's everyone's thoughts?

I know we are still all enjoying our brand new EVO's but google just gave us something even more exciting to salivate over!
What's everyone's thoughts on it?
So far I can't say that it "blew me away" but for the price point you really can't get better hardware without having the manufacturer take a severe hit on profits...I'd hate to see Asus or google turn into the next sony.
We are getting a quad-core CPU and apparently an amazing GPU, what else can you really ask for? The resolution is pretty darn decent for the price as well.
If this was any other device i'd typically pass it up BUT this is a nexus device! I am freaking excited as a mofo for what the development community is going to look like. This is the first actual flagship android device imo since phones have always been crippled by carrier support. Every dev and their mamas are going to get this thng! I seriously can't wait to see what's in store. I mean every android device has their share of phenomenal devs, now imagine all of them in one place...
By far the greatest feature any device can have for me.
Can't wait!
what are all your thoughts on it? One more new android device before years end to purchase?
Price, Jellybean & what not = 
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Pretty much, I have to read & see the I/O event.
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not a bad device, for the money. but definitely not "cutting edge" performace by any means. i am patiently waiting for an s4 tablet.... then i will drop some dime on another device.
cobraboy85 said:
not a bad device, for the money. but definitely not "cutting edge" performace by any means. i am patiently waiting for an s4 tablet.... then i will drop some dime on another device.
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yeah I hear you. I really think Google should have added a 10.1 inch device to its line up that is completely bleeding edge and higher on the price tag. That way they'd have tackled every aspect of mobile devices...but who knows, they still have more to announce so we'll see.
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yeah I hear you. I really think Google should have added a 10.1 inch device to its line up that is completely bleeding edge and higher on the price tag. That way they'd have tackled every aspect of mobile devices...but who knows, they still have more to announce so we'll see.
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agreed. but again, as you said... for the money, hell of a deal. and i am not slamming the tegra 3, it is a good chipset, as well as the GPU it comes with. but the s4 chip and GPU is unmatched in performance as of right now.
adreno 225 GPU is flat out a rendering powerhouse. and the chip architecture of the s4 is more efficient.
plus... i can only imagine under heavy use what kind of a power suck that tegra 3 will be with 4 logical processors rolling at once.
here is some interesting stuff i found, for further comparison.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/3
Nexus devices aren't meant to have mind blowing Hardware.
They're a basis for future devices. This particular nexus device has the alterior motive of disrupting Amazons tablet dominance.
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In light of Goggle's efforts to build Google Play as a unified content portal (and the fact that every full-sized Android tablet that tried to compete with the iPad has been a train wreck so far), it seems like they're taking direct aim at Amazon rather than at Apple.
I'm gonna get one to tide me over until Surface x86 comes out then my 5 year old will have an awesome Android tablet.
Keep calm and flash on...
here is some more....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
The gains are likely due in no small part to improvements in Krait's cache/memory controller. Krait can also issue multi-issue FP instructions, A9 class architectures can apparenty only dual-issue integer instructions.
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cobraboy85 said:
not a bad device, for the money. but definitely not "cutting edge" performace by any means. i am patiently waiting for an s4 tablet.... then i will drop some dime on another device.
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Tegra 3 is going to multi-task better. Plus all the exclusive games come with Tegra.
The s4 is good for a phone. But tablet the tegra is better.
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here is some more....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
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I completely agree with you. If I had a choice I'd choose the S4 over Tegra 3 on just about any devices...but once again, the biggest draw for me on this device is going to be the development community.
I feel pretty confident in saying that this device will have the biggest Android development community of any device thus far.
I broke my iPad about a month and a half ago and waited to see this tablet. It satisfies everything I'm looking for and I prefer the 7'' screen too. I already preordered the 16GB.
I won't be buying it. Even if it came with keylime pie. No micro sd and the bezel seems too big.... They could have made the screen bigger.
it says it has a "micro usb," my question is
a) do I need a usb OTG cable to plug in an external hdd?
b) can I use the external hdd while charging the tablet?
wow, it really stinks there's no microSD, I really figured that'd be a given.
What I'm wondering is why they decided to go with 7" rather than 10" or 10.1".
7" inches just feels too close to a phone for me.
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it says it has a "micro usb," my question is
a) do I need a usb OTG cable to plug in an external hdd?
b) can I use the external hdd while charging the tablet?
wow, it really stinks there's no microSD, I really figured that'd be a given.
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It is… but they want your money. Want something with microSD support? Pay more for another device. Wouldn’t have been hard to implement, but hey let’s just rape the consumer because we can. Better not give them everything all in one otherwise they will not buy other products…. Perceived value. “you get what you pay for…” its BS. You get what they decide to give you at whatever price they decide is appropriate. Adding features costs nothing really to them…. Adding VALUE…….. for your money…. Does, however, cost them money as you are then inclined to not pay twice the amount for the same product with a few more cool features.
Welcome to marketing 101.
It’s the same concept Apple lives on… “hey let’s make an 8, 16, 32, and 64 GB version of the SAME DEVICE… why, you ask? Because then it will cause sheople to feel like the extra space is more valuable, and they will give more money to US rather than sandisk…. Who would otherwise conveniently provide them a way to increase storage space.”
Nope, you buy a more expensive device from us so we can have your money instead of them.
This kind of crap pisses me off. if you couldn’t tell. lollllll
anyone noticed tablet got phone version of android.Why is that
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anyone noticed tablet got phone version of android.Why is that
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There is no tablet specific android version anymore. Honeycomb was the only one.
Have you not noticed that the Nexus devices don't have sd cards... Why would this one be different. Also the less storage you have on board the more likely you are to use their cloud services and not pirate video.
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Very disappointed it doesn't have a SD card slot, but at that price I ordered one any way.

Why get the nexus 10 ?

I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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You can attach a keyboard. Buy a bluetooth keyboard. It'll hook right up in less than a minute.
I can't guarantee the quality of this thing, but bluetooth keyboard cases exist.
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Tablet-Leather-Function/dp/B009Z3OY6Y/ref=pd_sbs_pc_12
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I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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http://amzn.com/B0054L8N7M
1 example. Search "Bluetooth Tablet Keyboard" on Amazon or whatever your site of preference is for others.
Nice...I hope by DEC 26 I'll be able to get it in Toronto.
Let's say I have a document open is it easy to highlight with my fingers ? Nexus 7 is attractive but with 1gb of Ram I just can't ponder it. And battery life ? Decent ?
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e Nexus 7 is a powerful enough device with 1gb RAM which only sounds insufficient due to the 2gb devices that have come out(nexus 10). You could also consider the Asus Transformer series as you can get a keyboard dock with a built in battery and a full sized USB port, also a micro SD card slot but you won't get the vanilla android experience and timely updates like you will on the Nexus. It depends on what you prefer. Hope that helped.
Sidneymac said:
I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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Most tablets don't have specific keyboard attachments made by the manufacturer; Asus is the exception, if you think you need a keyboard, check out the Transformer series of tablets. I owned an Asus Tf700 tablet w/ the keyboard dock and IMO found the keyboard too small for accurate/quick typing. Instead, I use a Wacom Bamboo stylus and digitally "handwrite" my notes using two apps; 7Notes & Evernote. 7Notes is a keyboard replacement for handwriting text and actively converts your writing to typed text; in combo w/ Evernote, I love it. At the end of the day I have clean, organized & typed notes saved in the cloud on my Evernote account.
Me? I have a laptop w/ normal sized keyboard for typing; I bought my tablet for just that..a tablet lol.
My reasons for getting the N10:
- Pure Google/Android experience & almost instant updates. (2 yrs use is absolutely achievable w/ a Nexus device)
- Great specs & design doesn't look anything like an iPad + the display is gorgeous.
- And of course school; this includes taking notes as I'm also a college student.
Also, Highlighting text is pretty straight forward & easy for copy/paste actions.
I said to 1gb referring to the nexus 7. And using Bluetooth as a keyboard would kill battery. I'm on my phone will get to my desktop soon and research. I love the bonus power from the Asus tho.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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True ... Hopefully I can get $320 when I sell it.
Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Exactly..I plan on buying the N10 when I go to the US in Janary. I won't be taking it if there is an announcement of a new Note at CES(which is unlikely, considering its only been a couple of months since they brought out the Note).
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Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Battery life is fantastic. And in regards to "not enough apps for tablets", there's really nothing Google can do about that. That's up to app developers, not Google.
Not to mention, that Android tablets never reeall had the issues other tablets had.. most scale perfectly, and you wouldn't know they aren't for tablets (this goes for things like many games, web browsers, office aps, etc) . Those that do have problems are normally quick to get updates... frankly, the the issue is really overrated ..
I'm a student and I have been using it to study, although not take notes. I would not recommend this for taking notes because of the lack of the palm guard. Makes it very difficult and awkward to take notes on. As other posters have said, get the Galaxy Note 10.1 if you would like to take notes seriously. However, the Note 10.1 I ultimately decided against because the screen resolution got terrible reviews and I am huge on that, also the vanilla Android experience was too much for me to say no to. I really enjoy my Nexus 10 so far, and can get over the fact that there is no palm guard. Its a great device for the price overall
Sidneymac said:
Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Google has been doing its best to try and motivate and encourage the developers to create more tablet optimized apps. Read this...
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wants-to-see-better-tablet-apps/
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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If you don't think the N10 is worth $400, you have a rude awakening coming when you see how much comparable tablets are in the marketplace, especially ones with stylus support out of the box!
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Sidneymac said:
I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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Is definitely hard to beat for many aspects but this tablet just isn't right for you, I can respect that although you may ultimately be displeased with other tablets for reasons that the nexus 10 excels in. I do think you ought to look into the note 10.1 if you are most concerned about note taking. Good luck finding the right gadget sir or madam
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Help deciding

Hello android people i currently sold my ipad finally and now deciding on which tablet to get
1. xperia tablet z
2. samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014
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Hello android people i currently sold my ipad finally and now deciding on which tablet to get
1. xperia tablet z
2. samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014
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Guess it depends on the individual needs. The xtz is a great tablet, don't get me wrong, but I'm trying to sell my xtz to get the note 10.1 2014. Water proof is a useless feature in my case. The s pen however I could use. I love my note 3. I really want the note tablet experience.
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Guess it depends on the individual needs. The xtz is a great tablet, don't get me wrong, but I'm trying to sell my xtz to get the note 10.1 2014. Water proof is a useless feature in my case. The s pen however I could use. I love my note 3. I really want the note tablet experience.
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Im trying to do that also and coming from the previous note 10.1 n8000 rooting and flashing roms would also be a million times easier.
acerdroid said:
Im trying to do that also and coming from the previous note 10.1 n8000 rooting and flashing roms would also be a million times easier.
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I never even unlocked or rooted my xtz. I had a feeling I wasn't going to keep it. I just sold it on Amazon. I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. I have my old Kindle fire running cm11 nightlies to tide me over for a while. The xtz is a great tablet, I just wasn't getting $550 worth of use from it.
I have the 3.21, it runs great, hardley use my iPad 3 now. Waterproof is very important to me, I live in Canada. Its nice being,able to trek through snow and rain with this tablet not having to worry. All game I throw at it play great. In run a custom ROM and recovery s well as some scripts toleep it running fast. Also tablets get dirty, we all eat with them, nice to be able to rinse the tablet in the sink and the preinstalled screen protector is a nice touch.
So current owners of this tablet, I just purchased the Asus FHD 10 (ME302c) tablet, but may return it for this one. This is $100 more expensive, but it may be worth it.
Any complaints with custom roms or anything not working on this tab? I generally want it for some video watching and reading, browsing.
Thanks.
Turbojugend said:
So current owners of this tablet, I just purchased the Asus FHD 10 (ME302c) tablet, but may return it for this one. This is $100 more expensive, but it may be worth it.
Any complaints with custom roms or anything not working on this tab? I generally want it for some video watching and reading, browsing.
Thanks.
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It's widely reported that the microphone on the xtz is poor, to the extent that it is unuseable with some apps -Skype for example.
I can vouch for the poor mic issue on Skype. You have to use mic+headset combo plugged in to the headphone jack to be able to talk to someone.
Very dissaponting. Some people have exchanged their xtz for a new one only to find the problem is still there
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It's widely reported that the microphone on the xtz is poor, to the extent that it is unuseable with some apps -Skype for example.
I can vouch for the poor mic issue on Skype. You have to use mic+headset combo plugged in to the headphone jack to be able to talk to someone.
Very dissaponting. Some people have exchanged their xtz for a new one only to find the problem is still there
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I guess my thing is I just want it for internet browsing, some streaming, watching 720p/1080p mkvs and reading on. I like to tinker with Android and ROM's though and the XTZ has a thriving dev section where the Asus is non existant.

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