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I'm looking to upgrade from my original Galaxy Tab within the next few weeks. I have narrowed my search down to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the Sony Tablet S. There obviously isn't a Tablet S forum to ask this question yet, but I was wondering what the Tab owner's opinion would be.
Should I get the already-established Tab 10.1, or spring for the brand new Tablet S?
i took the plunge and bought the 32gb 10.1 at the weekend and am loving it so far. Couple of work arounds like using USB adaptor to actually put stuff on it from my mac as try as I might, WIFI transfer and joke that is Kies wouldn't work with my mac.
Like I said, have a work around and haven't encountered any issues yet. The HDMI adaptor is also working a treat...have to have it plugged into the power supply but great picture and sound through the TV.
I thought about the S1 too, but I think with the note book design, it'll be too thick. The 10.1 just feels right in the hand. Nearly waited for the smaller Galaxy Tab 8.9 , but the 10.1 with wide screen it a great size for travel and watching on my TV at home which is the main reason for me to get it.
All about preference
Neither.
Hold off and get something with a better CPU.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Tab but Tegra2 is not all that great and with the next wave of tablets like the Galaxy Tab 7.7, the Toshiba A200 and the widely-rumoured Amazon tablet(s) all featuring far superior CPUs, if you can hold off it'll be worth it.
Unless your in the U.S. The tab 7.7 doesn't look like it's coming to the U.S. due to it's ability to be a phone no service provider will work with it. And if you live outside the U.S. the Amazon Kindle Tablet will have only the Amazon app store installed on it and only 8gb. Not too mention no Google support.
Since your in a forum now I am guessing your ready to buy now and not wait. I researched forever when I purchased my Tab 10.1 back in June. Absolutely love it! It's so light, the screen is amazing, touchwiz is OK and after Installing Adw ex from the market it is so smooth. My co-workers awe struck when using it. Two of whom have dropped over a grand on ipad 1 and 2 now want to switch to Android because of its customization. With Ice Cream Sandwich coming everything is moving into the cloud for storage making USB or SD cards non important for tablets.
Get a Tab.
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Unless your in the U.S. The tab 7.7 doesn't look like it's coming to the U.S. due to it's ability to be a phone no service provider will work with it.
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The original 7" Galaxy Tab had the ability to function as a phone and, unless I'm mistaken, every major US network carried it - they just disabled that function.
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And if you live outside the U.S. the Amazon Kindle Tablet will have only the Amazon app store installed on it and only 8gb. Not too mention no Google support.
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If it's Android, people will find a way to put the Google apps onto it.
I'm just going by what I have read, which is the 7.7 is not coming to the u.s. (we haven't even sniffed the 8.9 yet) And this I do not know of, but can other countries access the amazon app store?
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
I'm just going by what I have read, which is the 7.7 is not coming to the u.s. (we haven't even sniffed the 8.9 yet)
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No-one's had the 8.9 yet, so that doesn't really mean anything.
And whilst I appreciate that you're only repeating what's been said elsewhere, the problem with that is that it's a matter of days since the Tab 7.7 was unveiled, nothing will have been decided yet...
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And this I do not know of, but can other countries access the amazon app store?
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Not without tricking your phone into thinking it's in the US, I don't think.
I'm actually surprised about the number of responses! The original Tab's forums are slow.
I have the T-mobile version of the Galaxy Tab and I am in the US, so I'm stuck deciding either to have voice calls, or use 3g. This only effects the T-mobile tabs too, guh.
Since I am in the US, I'm not going to see the Tab 7.7, and after having a 7 inch tab for a while, I can say that there are a few reasons why I don't want to have another. Portability was great, but I have a Captivate, which essentially does everything my Galaxy Tab does, only on a smaller screen.
Amazon's tablets are going to lack Google support, which is a very important thing to have, so I'm going to pass those up.
You guys are talking me out of the Tablet S with all this praising of the Tab 10.1. Are there any cons I should be worried about?
steckums said:
Amazon's tablets are going to lack Google support, which is a very important thing to have, so I'm going to pass those up.
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I can't help but imagine that quite quickly after release, someone will work out how to get the proper Android market up and running on the Amazon Tabs.
But it's understandable that you wouldn't want to take the risk, not to mention the first one to be released is likely to be a 7" model, unless I'm mistaken...
steckums said:
You guys are talking me out of the Tablet S with all this praising of the Tab 10.1.
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It's pretty obvious why - it's the best [Android] tablet on the market just now.
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Are there any cons I should be worried about?
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The lack of a memory card slot on the wi-fi model is criminal but other than that, not really.
Just don't use TouchWiz and you'll be fine.
I definitely would say 10.1... However, I do like Touchwiz
Sammy 10.1 hands down!
Seeing as the Tablet S is more or less preloaded with those apps, and I'll be able to get most of them elsewhere, all except the universal remote, I'll pick up the Tab 10.1. Especially reading that the Tablet S has some issues with getting scratched easily on the screen and the cheap feeling casing.
Now my next question will be what accessories would be worth investing and where should I get them? Obviously, I'd like a case, and the USB adapter would be a worthwhile investment. Is the docking station/HDMI connector and/or keyboard dock worth getting at all?
Now, I hear a bunch of mixed results for Touchwiz. I'm quite familiar with using TouchWiz on my original Tab and my Captivate, so that has essentially been the whole Android experience for me. At least I think. I normally don't use the default launcher, I've stuck it out with ADW for as long as I can remember, so what will I be missing out by using TouchWiz vs the AOSP ROMs?
Speaking of ROMs, which one should I flash over first?
And the final question is, white or grey?
No down about Tab 10.1 thump up...
Touchwiz stabilizes many of the bugs I was running into on stock honeycomb (browser crash, keyboard lag)
I also love the version of Swype that came with it.
I wouldn't go back to stock at this point, even though I prefer the stcok look. It's easy enough to get a different launcher, though. In any case, you can always go back to stock.
As the owner of a Vibrant, I can say the Tab's version of TW seems quite a bit less intrusive than tw 3.0 on your captivate. Honestly, I never hated it on the Vib either, just the look of it and I put lp on to solve that.
Anyway, I find the tab a joy to use. I barely use my phone (unless it's to tether) or my desktop anymore.
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The grey one. White reminds me too much of an ipad.
I think the only reason to get a Sony would be if you already have a house full of Sony devices that can benefit from the integration it purportedly can offer. As it is, those features are probably easily supplanted by regular apps from the Market.
Purchasing ANY tegra 2 tablet right now would be the biggest mistake you can make. Especially if you already have a tablet and want to upgrade.
Tegra 2 is a VERY old SoC. I does not run many HD video due to its very slow video accelerator. This is a big problem with tegra 2 units.
Quad core tablets with true HD video hardware acceleration start shipping next month. They will be just as thin as current tablets and have similar battery life. Dont waste your money on Tegra 2. You have been warned. Tegra 2 is for phones not tablets.
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Purchasing ANY tegra 2 tablet right now would be the biggest mistake you can make. Especially if you already have a tablet and want to upgrade.
Tegra 2 is a VERY old SoC. I does not run many HD video due to its very slow video accelerator. This is a big problem with tegra 2 units.
Quad core tablets with true HD video hardware acceleration start shipping next month. They will be just as thin as current tablets and have similar battery life. Dont waste your money on Tegra 2. You have been warned. Tegra 2 is for phones not tablets.
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What are some quad core tablets I could look into?
The only two companies who are expected to release quad-core tablets soon are Amazon and Asus.
However, last I heard, Amazon had put back their quad-core 10" tablet 'til next year and there was no expected date for Asus' follow-up to the Transformer.
Yap, I agree with step, get an asus, a quad core would be better to perform everythg, including replacing a netbook. Perhaps a quad core is able.to boot a window 8 , lol
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The only two companies who are expected to release quad-core tablets soon are Amazon and Asus.
However, last I heard, Amazon had put back their quad-core 10" tablet 'til next year and there was no expected date for Asus' follow-up to the Transformer.
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That info is good enough for me. I bought the original Tab back in March, and upgraded 6 months later. I plan on having the Tab 10.1 last me closer to a year, and with no expected date for the first gen quad cores, I'm sure I'll be able to nab one in a back to school sale or something like that this time next year.
I am considering the purchase of a 10.1 (16 gig, WiFi only) but, after searching these forums, one could get the sense that there is a very high rate of defects with this product. I almost get the feeling that it is a roll of the dice to see if you get a tablet without any defects.
It also seems like Samsung does not stand behind the product as far as warranty repairs and exchanges go.
If you have purchased a 10.1, would you do so again?
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I am considering the purchase of a 10.1 (16 gig, WiFi only) but, after searching these forums, one could get the sense that there is a very high rate of defects with this product. I almost get the feeling that it is a roll of the dice to see if you get a tablet without any defects.
It also seems like Samsung does not stand behind the product as far as warranty repairs and exchanges go.
If you have purchased a 10.1, would you do so again?
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Yes I would. I have my 10.1 since August and I never had any problems with it.
You have do understand that most people only post in forums if there are some problems.
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Rate of defects
I'd disagree that there is a high rate of defects. There is a high rate of people posting about the few defects that there have been, yes. I've had mine for several months with no issues at all.
As mentioned above, people like to post when things are bad, not so much when they are good.
I really like mine and have had no issues with it. That being said, within a few weeks you will be able to buy the ASUS Transformer Prime quad core tablet with ICS for the same price as the Galaxy Tab currently is. Wait for the ASUS.
My first Galaxy tab had a defect and the screen crapped out and bestbuy gave me the option to spend my money on anything and I decided to upgrade to a 32gb version and honestly I would do it again in a second it is a wonderful product and just works the way it should.
And I forgot to mention that my new 32gb has not defects what so ever I'm extremely happy with it.
Only had my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (3g, 16Gb) for about two weeks now but I am extremely satisfied with it's performance. I found no defects whatsoever.
It's light, has an awesome screen and has a great community. Even with stock everything it was really nice (only used for two days though) but with custom ROMs, custom kernel, touchscreen sensitivity improvements... it got even more awesome!
And I'm sure in a few months we'll have even more great stuff to chose from, thanks to the dedicated developers.
The only thing that bothers me is the lack of native USB/sd support... but it's a problem I can deal with (don't really need them much and you can buy converters or make them yourself if you're a tech person).
So yeah, I'd definitely recommend it.
You have to seperate defects from limitations. The latter pretty much applies to all Android tablets. The only real defect(s) involve the display. Some people have complained about lines and color issues and there's the newton rings problem. Newly built and repaired Tabs have a new screen design that should eliminate the problem. I'd get it at Costco, that way if you have any issues you'll have 90 days to return it. Also they just got a fresh shipment in as they were out of stock online. The limitations are it's not the fastest device in the world when it comes to the UI, transitions, and multi-tasking. But that's due to a combination of Honeycomb and the Tegra 2 processor. 720p video is pretty much as high as it goes too. ICS will probably address quite a few of the s/w performance issues and create a more well rounded environment. I had a Wi-Fi Tab from the U.S. and now have a 3G Tab from the UK. They were both issue free and I'm quite pleased.
My 10.1 had the screen go wonky after a couple of weeks. A 7 minute online chat @ samsung.com resulted in a UPS pickup with an exchange/replacement, shipping paid by Samsung both ways.
I was so upset, I bought my wife one of their 8.9s.
I have the 16 gig 3G version and no complaints whatsoever.
Would I purchase again?
Any time.
FWIW, i have talked to samsung support a few times for different products and have been pleased with the support.
+1 For people dont typically jump on forums to talk about everything that works right ;-)
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I am considering the purchase of a 10.1 (16 gig, WiFi only) but, after searching these forums, one could get the sense that there is a very high rate of defects with this product. I almost get the feeling that it is a roll of the dice to see if you get a tablet without any defects.
It also seems like Samsung does not stand behind the product as far as warranty repairs and exchanges go.
If you have purchased a 10.1, would you do so again?
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Great, just what we need around here. Another whiner.
I think you'll be happier with an iPad. It's magical.
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I think you'll be happier with an iPad. It's magical.
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Too funny.
BarryH_GEG said:
Too funny.
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My 10.1 is working wonderfully no issues whatsoever...
If you have purchased a 10.1, would you do so again?
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I won't purchase a 10.1 again! The sole reason being I don't have any affinity of keeping duplicate gadgets..
Btw if you are giving away the 10.1 , I'm ready to get some willing candidates.
Hey guys!
I am in the market for a new 7" android tablet. My motivation for getting one is so that I can read PDFs on the go. I am a student and being able to read stuff on the go is a huge plus to me and my phone's 4.3 inch screen, be that it is huge real estate for a phone, is just too small for reading.
Why specifically 7 inch? Well, when I discussed with friends, I learned that 7 inch tablets are much lighter and easier to carry around. Plus they are easier to pull out off your bag and read on a cramped bus, and given that I go to college the university shuttle is *very* cramped. Plus they are cheaper. So, there it is. I am hunting for a good 7 inch tablet.
I have two options in mind right now. (A) Amazon kindle fire. It is dirt cheap and does the job, i.e. read PDFs. Cons, it is a very basic tablet and is very underpowered. It has other drawbacks, such as no SD card slot, no out of the box market support and it runs Gingerbread. Eww. (B) Samsung galaxy tab 7.0 plus. It is great, nice and everything and it is Honeycomb and is well powered.
I want to choose a Tablet that has an unlocked bootloader, has the least hardware/software issues and glitches and that has a vibrant dev community. So, people please suggest a tablet in this vein!
Thanks in advance!
Galaxy tab for sure.
Couple of gals I know have KF, it's cheap...and for it's specs it's pretty snappy
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Playbook?
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I read about the Galaxy Tab 7.7 inch. Man, I hate to buy a Galaxy Tab 7.0 at the cusp of the release of the 7.7... It is such a ***** to buy a piece of tech, just to see it get outdated in a week or a month!
I hate all these companies releasing gadgets soo quickly!
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Does anyone know the purported price of the 7.7" one? If it is too costly, I'll close my eyes and pick the 7.0". Else, I may have to wait!
Depending on your price range, there's a good one on groupon
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I read about the Galaxy Tab 7.7 inch. Man, I hate to buy a Galaxy Tab 7.0 at the cusp of the release of the 7.7... It is such a ***** to buy a piece of tech, just to see it get outdated in a week or a month!
I hate all these companies releasing gadgets soo quickly!
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Does anyone know the purported price of the 7.7" one? If it is too costly, I'll close my eyes and pick the 7.0". Else, I may have to wait!
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newegg.com they aren't to pricey...maybe $399. Last I saw
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newegg.com they aren't to pricey...maybe $399. Last I saw
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Are you talking off the Galaxy tab 7.7? Give link, s'il vous plait?
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Are you talking off the Galaxy tab 7.7? Give link, s'il vous plait?
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Yes the new GT line.....in a bit bud I'll hop on my PC
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Given how frustrated I am with the Droid X2, I am taking every precaution possible to ensure that my next purchase isn't a giant pain in the ass. So, I went ahead and posted a thread in the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus's XDA forum. I hope I get some good responses that will help me make a decision!
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Given how frustrated I am with the Droid X2, I am taking every precaution possible to ensure that my next purchase isn't a giant pain in the ass. So, I went ahead and posted a thread in the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus's XDA forum. I hope I get some good responses that will help me make a decision!
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131221
here is a link to all GT newegg has http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...msung Galaxy Tab&name=SAMSUNG&Order=BESTMATCH
Guys, I just learned that the Galaxy Tab 7.0 plus has some issues:
1. Something called SOD (sleep of Death) 2. Some WiFi troubles.
I tried asking the people in the Galaxy Tab 8.9 forum about issues it has. I didn't get a reply yet.
I have a few queries though. Compared to a 7 inch tablet, how less portable is a 8.9 inch one? Is it just as portable that I should be able to pull it out in a crowded bus and read a PDF file on it just fine?
Secondly, the 8.9 does NOT have a SD card slot. Now, that is a downer. No way to freely expand memory.
BUT: The Galaxy 8.9 has ICS/CM9 ROMs!!! That alone can sway me towards Galaxy Tab 8.9. Granted the 7.0 plus may get ICS too, but looks like it hardly has any ROMs at all. And there was one thread there asking whether devs are looking into coding for it and the reply was the devs may wait till official ICS is out, since it is a PITA to dev without proper drivers available. Hmm...
What do you guys say?
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Guys, I just learned that the Galaxy Tab 7.0 plus has some issues:
1. Something called SOD (sleep of Death) 2. Some WiFi troubles.
I tried asking the people in the Galaxy Tab 8.9 forum about issues it has. I didn't get a reply yet.
I have a few queries though. Compared to a 7 inch tablet, how less portable is a 8.9 inch one? Is it just as portable that I should be able to pull it out in a crowded bus and read a PDF file on it just fine?
Secondly, the 8.9 does NOT have a SD card slot. Now, that is a downer. No way to freely expand memory.
BUT: The Galaxy 8.9 has ICS/CM9 ROMs!!! That alone can sway me towards Galaxy Tab 8.9. Granted the 7.0 plus may get ICS too, but looks like it hardly has any ROMs at all. And there was one thread there asking whether devs are looking into coding for it and the reply was the devs may wait till official ICS is out, since it is a PITA to dev without proper drivers available. Hmm...
What do you guys say?
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Xyboard? Transformer Prime, how much do you want to spend
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I'd rather get mugged than buy a Xyboard.
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I'd rather get mugged than buy a Xyboard.
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LOL!
Well, I am not planning at Transformer prime level monies! As I said in the OP, I am planning to get a 7-8 inch tablet for the portability.
I am considering the Galaxy Tab 8.9 vs Galaxy tab 7.0 plus. As far as portability is concerned, is the Galaxy tab 8.9 just as portable as the 7.0 plus? For instance, can I pull either of them out of my bag in a crowded bus and read a PDF (of course while sitting).
Well, I don't have a lot of experience with any of them except the xoom. I've owned one for almost a year now. It's a bit larger than what you're looking for but when it comes to custom roms, mods, or what have you, there's plenty to choose from. The bootloader can be unlocked so there's already a bunch of ICS roms available for it (CM9 included). Plus a pretty good selection of custom kernels to choose from. I'm not sure about the Xyboard. Is it un-lockable? Don't know. Whatever you buy, do your homework. If you can't unlock it, I'd pass. Unless you don't care about changing things.
Custom roms will get you things like support for external USB drives, keyboards, mice and what have you. Perhaps they are coming with support for those things built in now. I don't know. They are things worth having though. IMHO.
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Well, I don't have a lot of experience with any of them except the xoom. I've owned one for almost a year now. It's a bit larger than what you're looking for but when it comes to custom roms, mods, or what have you, there's plenty to choose from. The bootloader can be unlocked so there's already a bunch of ICS roms available for it (CM9 included). Plus a pretty good selection of custom kernels to choose from. I'm not sure about the Xyboard. Is it un-lockable? Don't know. Whatever you buy, do your homework. If you can't unlock it, I'd pass. Unless you don't care about changing things.
Custom roms will get you things like support for external USB drives, keyboards, mice and what have you. Perhaps they are coming with support for those things built in now. I don't know. They are things worth having though. IMHO.
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Do you find your Xoom portable? I.e. is it easy to take out in the bus to read? Seems like this is my standard portability test!
Is it too heavy or can you easily hold it in your hand and read stuff on it?
EDIT: So, now I have the choice of the Xoom, Tab 7.0 plus and 8.9!!! Damn it. I started with 7.0 plus and now the list has grown to 3!
I'll just go to Best buy and try all three of them and see which I like best. Plus the best bang for the buck factor too...
Well, I have a friend who has a Kindle Fire and, well, to tell you the truth, I don't see mine being any harder to get out of the bag than that thing. It's something though that I can't really say is right for you or not. For me, if the money isn't an issue, I'd go for more screen real-estate any time. They aren't THAT big. Just my thoughts on it. You might feel differently.
What about the Acer tablets?
I know the Acer Iconia 100 is on the way out but I'm sure there will be something to replace its 7" form factor. I've been looking at the Acer Iconia 200 - WiFi only, SD card slot, 8 or 16GB memory. good prices (sub $400 for the 200). Micro USB and full size USB host. Most of the reviews have been pretty positive that I have seen. And the 200 has ICS now.
litetaker said:
Hey guys!
I am in the market for a new 7" android tablet. My motivation for getting one is so that I can read PDFs on the go. I am a student and being able to read stuff on the go is a huge plus to me and my phone's 4.3 inch screen, be that it is huge real estate for a phone, is just too small for reading.
Why specifically 7 inch? Well, when I discussed with friends, I learned that 7 inch tablets are much lighter and easier to carry around. Plus they are easier to pull out off your bag and read on a cramped bus, and given that I go to college the university shuttle is *very* cramped. Plus they are cheaper. So, there it is. I am hunting for a good 7 inch tablet.
I have two options in mind right now. (A) Amazon kindle fire. It is dirt cheap and does the job, i.e. read PDFs. Cons, it is a very basic tablet and is very underpowered. It has other drawbacks, such as no SD card slot, no out of the box market support and it runs Gingerbread. Eww. (B) Samsung galaxy tab 7.0 plus. It is great, nice and everything and it is Honeycomb and is well powered.
I want to choose a Tablet that has an unlocked bootloader, has the least hardware/software issues and glitches and that has a vibrant dev community. So, people please suggest a tablet in this vein!
Thanks in advance!
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Money range from you in OP is NOT stated...sooooo I will assume the best.
Size I'm sure is an issue, and you want more portability...sooooo just go buy one dude, they alp have return policies, and who knows...usually gut feeling is wrong, and the other choice is right.
Right now the GT looks and operates bad ass, you are asking for opinions don't forget.
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I was going to tell you about the galaxy tab before I even see your choices. I had the 10.1 before, and I have to say that Samsung have the best devices ever. Go for the Tab definetly
Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
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Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN). This is my first foray into the android world. I wouldn't root it immediately. I need to get a little bit familiar with all the slang and technical terms used around here. I can see though, that a senior member, Condi,is doing a great job. My hats off to him.
True this tablet is not the best. There never will be the best tablet! Not even the so called great iPad and Samsung families don't deserve that title. There is always something lacking, something too low, some features too less....but given all the facilities in this neat tablet like:
SD Card - fine with me...doesn't bother me.
USB Host - a plus point for me!
WiFi - Can't live without it Don't need to be a 100Mbps or something more....highest achievable speed for our OFC is 2 Mbps.
Bluetooth - Won't be using much except for sending few jpeg files rarely) 3G (yay!)
The Design - Cool and stands out a lot in the mad world of tablets. Btw, I am really fed up of all the similar and boring plain looking tablets out there
GPS - I don't exactly know whether it is an AGPS (Assisted GPS) which needs 3G data or the real GPS hardware (not needing data connectivity)
The Size - 9.4' (1280 x 800) is somewhere in the sweet spot for me. Not too big...not too small.
The IR Blaster - the scale tipper in my decision making.
The Sound - Stereo (yay!) if you are thinking the sound is too low....let me say that it is for my personal use...don't intend to use it in parties
The Battery - Long charging time and short Battery life doesn't bother me as I am not living inside a cave. Not traveling much either.
Memory, Processor & Multitasking Performance - Suits me fine...I am not expecting it to perform like a workstation or a Core i7 CPU machine. I will use it mainly for social apps, light browsing, listening to audiobooks/music on my way to and from my office. A little bit of games/entertainment/educational app my wife and my daughter can play/use during weekends.
These are just from my point of view...my two cents...hope i have not offended any samsung/apple fan. Leave comments and share your thoughts please!!
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The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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freelancer81 said:
I wouldn't root it immediately.
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Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
jumper62 said:
The sony tablet s is getting old and isnt getting updates. Does have a few bugs (Wifi) but it is a great tablet outdated. I would have recommended a newer tablet but it is your choice.
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NerdiX said:
Think about Xperia Tab Z, not Tab S, or XTS, go Tab Z!!!
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Thanks for your concern.
Yeah...I have thought about it too.
But the price is about more than double...
Rs. 19,990 for Sony Tablet S and Rs. 46,990 for Xperia Tab Z
That was too much for me...
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
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Hello everyone!:angel:
I finally saved enough to buy a tablet and after about a week of reading reviews and watching feature videos, I made up my mind to go for the Sony Tablet S (3G +WiFi) (Model:SGPT113IN).
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The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive. All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android. I do not foresee Sony releasing anymore firmware updates for the STS, but then again, my tablets perform well and do what they were specified to do, so are any updates really necessary? No, not in my opinion. So, if you know what the STS can and cannot do, and you feel it will meet your needs, then I say buy it.
I also own a Sony Xperia Tablet Z. The XTZ display-wise and performance-wise is a better tablet than the STS; however, hardware-wise it fails in comparison with the STS when it comes to port access and ruggedness. The XTZ is a dainty tablet, the STS is a manly tablet.
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The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet. I own four of them, one of them owned since the first week the tablet was released to market and I have had no hardware or software problems with any of them. One of them I use at work in an industrial environment and two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters, so I am sure you can imagine the abuse these tablets receive.
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Hi Cat McGowan!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts....It means a lot with all the hype going on that this STS is costly and have no future since it will not support newer android versions.
You have made me really stand steadfast and want to own it all the more!
I have two laptops, a PC (all Core i7 processors)....if i needed any horse-powered work done, I have those.
The STS will just be a take-a-break device while lazying on the couch or bed with a movie or two and some light entertainments/games or when I am commuting.
I must admire you for owning 4 STSs!!!!!
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All of them are running Android 4.0.3r5a rooted, which has proven to be a fairly stable and trouble-free release of Android.
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Does it support 3G?
From Sony India's website, I see that the one I am about to buy is Android™ 3.2.with WiFi and 3G.
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two of them are used by my 2 and 4 year-old granddaughters
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I am yet to reach that stage :laugh: but my daughter is going to be 4 this August. The way she's meddling with my phone, she'll be the absolute owner of the tablet once I buy it.
Ubichinon said:
I wouldnt recommend the STS to anyone. Or the XTS, you can get much better tablets for teh same money atm.
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Yeah...you are right.
But as I have said, the upgrading (to JB) is not an issue with me. I believe it gives me all I want plus something which is rare on other devices - the IR Blaster feature. Maybe Samsung has got it in the new devices but they costs too much.
For me, though it may be an average device with average component/hardware with average performance with no future support/update/upgrade, it has all that I need in one neat package.
Thanks for your concern though....cheers!!!
so so sad....
Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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What is the highest price you would pay for a tablet?, I found a few.
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I found a few.
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I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
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I did some googling...and I have narrowed my search down to either:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 or Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (P5220)...what do you say to these?
Anyway, I would gladly go up to $620 USD provided it has 3G + WiFi + Infrared + expandable memory (SD or MicroSD)
eagerly waiting to hear from you.
thanks again for your concern:good:
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 since it is the latest.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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The S-pen is just amazing on the Note 10.1 Id advice you to get it.
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I was leaning more toward the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-8000 though.
Yeah, the cpu for the new Tab 3 is Atom, the first among tablets to have this.
But the Note 10.1 is not so old and i've heard only great comments and reviews from xda here.
Let me refresh my mind for a few days and make the final decision.
Thanks so much for your help and concern.
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Yeah it can be a bit difficult deciding between 2 good devices.
It is either the Atom processor or the S-Pen.
The S-Pen seems pretty awesome but in the same time the Atom processor will give it a ultimate boost in performance.
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You know what...these companies just toy with us.
You will not find any device with all the good/best features.
They will add a particular feature to one model/device only, and another new feature to a different model/device.
Everyone would be happy if they put all their eggs in one basket!!
Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
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Do not get the Tablet S it will put you off Android tablets for life.
Get a Nexus 7 instead - Old or New. 4.3. on the old N7 really flies.
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Thanks for the concern and insight.
Anyway, I've just place an order for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-N8000 for Rs.36000 INR (about $591.73 USD)
Thanks everyone for all your help in making the decision.
I guess I will now be active in the GT-N8000 forum now...see you all there!:highfive::highfive::highfive:
The sony tablet S was the worst decision I made.
The sdcard handling still sucks. No custom roms possible. Sony refuses to update it at all. And so on. Ill never ever again buy a android product produced by sony!
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Today I heard the sad news that the Sony Tablet S is not available anymore in India.
What a bummer....I was so looking forward to it.
Just when I saved enough for it, and after all the questions and video reviews, it has all been for naught.
Can somebody please give me a list of tablets which has IR Blaster/Infrared feature please?
Thanks in advance.
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I have my STS which i am trying to sell because I have moved on to a newer one. If interested mail me @coolaks[email protected]
My mom is in the market for a new tablet since the last one is officially ancient. I was considering getting a nexus 9 for her because it fairly affordable in the aftermarket. I was wondering if you guys had any testimonies or experiences you wanted to share about the tablet. Looking forward to reading them.... Thanks!
l_4Fhit_l said:
My mom is in the market for a new tablet since the last one is officially ancient. I was considering getting a nexus 9 for her because it fairly affordable in the aftermarket. I was wondering if you guys had any testimonies or experiences you wanted to share about the tablet. Looking forward to reading them.... Thanks!
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My advice: don't! Your chances of getting a dud are higher than ever. I've had mine for over 2 yrs. It requires regular (every 6 weeks) wipes due to slow-downs and freezes (used to bootloop, too). It's very likely I'm older than your mom (69, in fact), but Android is a hobby so I just do what has to be done to keep my N9 working. Can she maintain it if it's a dud, too? Although a lot of N9 owners who've posted in these forums never had any issues, many of us have. I don't know if she's Apple-familiar, but the newest iPad is actually a pretty good deal. Otherwise, I can't help. I still keep my N9 because nothing else has come along to entice me. I bought it for the larger display, and that has never disappointed me. It's not only large but very clear and crisp. In the end, I will say that I will NEVER buy another HTC product despite how may "great" devices they may have put on the market. JMO.
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DON'T
Edit: I should not have been so terse. I would not recommend the Nexus 9 to anyone.
Do not purchase this tablet. Purchase a pixel tablet if you want to have a better experience
l_4Fhit_l said:
My mom is in the market for a new tablet since the last one is officially ancient. I was considering getting a nexus 9 for her because it fairly affordable in the aftermarket. I was wondering if you guys had any testimonies or experiences you wanted to share about the tablet. Looking forward to reading them.... Thanks!
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Hi, l_4Fhit_l...
I echo the sentiments of the previous posters and their comments.
DO NOT BUY A NEXUS 9 unless you can get one for a ridiculously cheap price AND you're technically capable of dealing with it when things go wrong...
As they sometimes do...
For example, I've just had another (yep, not the first time) hard and spectacular crash on my own Nexus 9, whilst doing something no more taxing on the hardware than performing a simple Google search via the persistant search bar in Nova launcher, and which resulted in a pixellated mess on the screen and a screeching cacophony emanating from the speakers. (See attached photo.)
It required two 'forced' power-downs (long press on the power button) and reboots to get the device up and running again .
I was thinking (after the second failure to boot) I'd have to reflash the thing from scratch. Which is something I've done many times before, but it's a time consuming chore - fortunately the device rebooted without issues the second time I forced powered it down.
The Nexus 9 is OK (not 'great', but 'OK') when it works... A pain-in-the-fundament when it doesn't!
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So... I recommend you look elsewhere for a tablet. One of the above posters recommended an iPad. My mum (she's 75) has one and has absolutely no problems with it.
Rgrds,
Ged.
There seems to be consensus I guess ... Thank you all for your input. I wanted to get my mom something that was cheap and that ran or could run stock android because that is what she is familiar with. Any recommendations?
l_4Fhit_l said:
There seems to be consensus I guess ... Thank you all for your input. I wanted to get my mom something that was cheap and that ran or could run stock android because that is what she is familiar with. Any recommendations?
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Size? Stock Android could be an issue unless you want something you can root. Samsung has some nice tablets (tab A, for one) that don't cost the entire bank but they do run Samsung software over Android. Amazon fire tablets come in a wide variety of sizes, features, with matching prices. I've never had one so can't speak to the software.
Take a look here http://www.androidauthority.com/cheap-android-tablets-268082/ and here http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/best-cheap-tablets-top-budget-options-1314545
I have no idea where you live, but if you are or you know someone who is a Costco member, they have the 8" Tab A for $130.+ $10. Shipping for the next few weeks. I don't know if the price is same in store.
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Oh, come on. It's not that bad. It's fine with 7.1.
If I bought a tablet today, I would buy N9. (Not Pixel C, it's big and heavy.)
I love it, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone ever though.
Unrooted, stock, came home today and the OS is toast, going to have to re-flash and set up again. This is the second or third time in two years. The thing literally does nothing for me other than run a book reader app and has bombed doing nothing.
It also sometimes decides not to charge. Not a bad connection, not a bad charger, it just decides it's going to run the battery to past dead and then once you unplug and plug it back in - bam, oh hey you wanted to charge? yeah gimme a couple hours before you get anything on the screen.
Meanwhile rocking multiple HTC products (who also manufactured the Nexus 9) and have only once since 2013 had the experiences I've had multiple times with the 9 since 2016.
Plus if you suspect the battery is at fault, well, good luck finding one.
mutlucan96 said:
Oh, come on. It's not that bad. It's fine with 7.1.
If I bought a tablet today, I would buy N9. (Not Pixel C, it's big and heavy.)
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So glad you got one of the good ones.
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mutlucan96 said:
Oh, come on. It's not that bad. It's fine with 7.1.
If I bought a tablet today, I would buy N9. (Not Pixel C, it's big and heavy.)
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So glad you got one of the good ones.
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I agree with him!
But like you said Im one if the lucky ones.
The only major thing the N9 got wrong is the ram size.
2GB 64bit lol
ohh jeez. i just joing this forum cause i purchase one a few hours ago. on facebook ad for $60 could pass the deal for this tablet. so far is running great and looks brand new. but most u are talking long term. in a few week or a month. lets see how that goes. cause my nexus 7 2013 is also working rock solid.
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ohh jeez. i just joing this forum cause i purchase one a few hours ago. on facebook ad for $60 could pass the deal for this tablet. so far is running great and looks brand new. but most u are talking long term. in a few week or a month. lets see how that goes. cause my nexus 7 2013 is also working rock solid.
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Welcome!! :highfive:
I just bought a Nvidia shield tablet from eBay for $200. It was between the Nexus 9 and the shield tablet... Wish I had bought the shield a few weeks ago when Nvidia was still selling them. Or even a year ago.. its a two year old tablet and still the best.. They are really hard to find now, sold out on swappa and pulled from all storefronts. I checked eBay every few hours for a day and found one in pristine condition... It's still in the mail. All the rest of them on there are priced well over $200... It would have been the perfect tablet for her if you could find one. It's got front facing speakers, same cpu/gpu as the Nexus 9. Better build quality. Nearly stock Android. Sd card slot. Hdmi output to easily plug into tv. The shield K1 literally has it all, only beaten by the pixel c with the x1 cpu.. which is over priced and too big for my tastes, doesn't have a sd card slot and doesn't support adapters to HDMI.
Regardless I'd suggest the Pixel C, it's the best tablet if you don't mind it's price, size/weight and lack of sdcard slot as they only sell the 32gb varient now for $600. It's pure Android and will receive all the latest updates before any non pixel device. Or just take the gamble and get a Nexus 9... They are selling for 290 for the 32gb black varient atm which was tempting to me... But I've read nothing but troubles with that devices hardware that I've decided to stay away.
So far the tablet is wonderfull. Fast and good bild quality. Problems are only the backlight (im use to amoled gs8 plus). And the sound is good but i heard it was much better before the last few update which is the question i want to ask.
We probably wont get anymore update since it is official this table is not getting 7.1.2. Should i root? It says installing a new kernel fix the audio problem.
Other than that. Best $60 i have ever spend. Dont go spending $200. U can find it so low on craiglist, offerup, facebook ad. I had 3 guy say yes to $70. And this one i got was $60 but he was a few miles from my house.
just an update.
i unlocked bootloaded,
installed lineage os
elemental X kernel
root
underclock cpu to 2ghz
underclock gpu to 650mhz
using mini bowser instead of chrome
this tablet is amazing. fast. does not heat up, getting around 10 hour SOT. gaming even underclock perform incrediable. rigtide 2 runs at 60fps max resoultion. no hicup just like my ipad pro.
my only concern right now is not even the ram. is only having 4gb left storage. 16gb model is just not enough. 64gb would have been sweet.
l_4Fhit_l said:
There seems to be consensus I guess ... Thank you all for your input. I wanted to get my mom something that was cheap and that ran or could run stock android because that is what she is familiar with. Any recommendations?
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Oh wow,
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Nexus 7 (2013)!!
If your mother doesn't mind a smaller 7" tablet, it's the perfect choice!
Same amount of RAM as N9, it's rock solid, still gets support in XDA (You could set it up for your mother, and check up on it once a month or something.)
I had a great N9, owned it for nearly 2 years...not one glitch.
Then it was stolen
Now my GF bought me a new one last xmas, and it just isn't the same...very slow and laggy.
So I can confirm what people have said, some units aren't up to standard.