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I'm thinking of getting the Z2 but I'm worried after seeing how many people have problems with overheating, bad build quality, self cracking so on so forth... I just wanted to know whether every Z2 has these issues or is it a game of luck? And does the batch number have anything to do with these issues? AND, did they fix the camera overheat problem (in normal, non 4k mode) via the updates or no? If not then I think it's... I don't know, lame? there's no other phone, no matter high or low end that can't stay in camera without overheating, I guess we have to pay 700$ to get that exclusive "feature" then.
Also, off topic, how is the speaker quality compared to iPhone 5S and/or Note 3? And is the amp powerful enough to power high end headphones decently?
Mk-Raul said:
I'm thinking of getting the Z2 but I'm worried after seeing how many people have problems with overheating, bad build quality, self cracking so on so forth... I just wanted to know whether every Z2 has these issues or is it a game of luck? And does the batch number have anything to do with these issues? AND, did they fix the camera overheat problem (in normal, non 4k mode) via the updates or no? If not then I think it's... I don't know, lame? there's no other phone, no matter high or low end that can't stay in camera without overheating, I guess we have to pay 700$ to get that exclusive "feature" then.
Also, off topic, how is the speaker quality compared to iPhone 5S and/or Note 3? And is the amp powerful enough to power high end headphones decently?
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It is very obvious and understandable to have this doubt which you are facing right now. I had the similar apprehensions before and also post purchasing the Z2. However, the truth is far from it.
A few points we all need to understand:
1) Users on XDA Z2 forum are only a fraction of all the Z2 owners in the world. The issues depeicted here are majorly very minor when the ratio is compared to the whole lot of Z2s sold so far by Sony.
2) Had it been that majority of Z2s facing the mentioned issues, Sony would have been trashed across all the global forums, blogs and other tech portals.
Camera overheating issue is a bug. Again, this is not so rampant. And not that everyone will use 4k recording all the time for video shooting, as I can say this for all, not all of us own a 4K TV or monitor to enjoy the video. 1080p still serves the purpose.
Speaker quality is great. I say this post comparing it with S5, Iphone5s, Note 3, Nexus. However, you cannot compare it to HTC One (Both M7 &M8).
I hope I could settle a few concerns you had here. I would end saying this. Buy any device, any phone. But only when you are sure about it 100% (50% heart + 50% Mind)
-unease
unease said:
It is very obvious and understandable to have this doubt which you are facing right now. I had the similar apprehensions before and also post purchasing the Z2. However, the truth is far from it.
A few points we all need to understand:
1) Users on XDA Z2 forum are only a fraction of all the Z2 owners in the world. The issues depeicted here are majorly very minor when the ratio is compared to the whole lot of Z2s sold so far by Sony.
2) Had it been that majority of Z2s facing the mentioned issues, Sony would have been trashed across all the global forums, blogs and other tech portals.
Camera overheating issue is a bug. Again, this is not so rampant. And not that everyone will use 4k recording all the time for video shooting, as I can say this for all, not all of us own a 4K TV or monitor to enjoy the video. 1080p still serves the purpose.
Speaker quality is great. I say this post comparing it with S5, Iphone5s, Note 3, Nexus. However, you cannot compare it to HTC One (Both M7 &M8).
I hope I could settle a few concerns you had here. I would end saying this. Buy any device, any phone. But only when you are sure about it 100% (50% heart + 50% Mind)
-unease
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Thanks for replying.
I'm all up for it (heart wise) but the brain part still worries me because I'm not that rich to just get a new flagship after few days because mine is faulty.
My concern about the camera wasn't about the 4K overheating, my brother's Note 3 has 4k too, it NEVER gets used. I'm just worried because I've seen some people both on XDA and other forums/YT having overheating during normal photo shooting in SA mode.
Mk-Raul said:
Thanks for replying.
I'm all up for it (heart wise) but the brain part still worries me because I'm not that rich to just get a new flagship after few days because mine is faulty.
My concern about the camera wasn't about the 4K overheating, my brother's Note 3 has 4k too, it NEVER gets used. I'm just worried because I've seen some people both on XDA and other forums/YT having overheating during normal photo shooting in SA mode.
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Hello there, well so far (I am using the Indian variant D6502 with .314 rom) I haven't had any concerns while using the camera. So can't comment on that. Maybe, you should visit nearest retailer and play around with a demo piece before committing for a purchase.
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Hello . I got my Z2 the other day and no problems. I configurated it, updated to latest firmware, rooted and it's been working great.
I saw some issues with it overheating when charged but I didn't get that. So far no screen crack either.
I was worried about the self cracking as well but in the end I got it anyway. I really hope I won't experience it. I had a Z1 and Z ultra previously who both were great.
The speaker/mic quality sounds worse but I don't really care seeing as I will be talking with a headset anyway.
Ive just got the phone and have it for 4 days now.Switched from Xperia ZR. To be honest yes the phone overheats more when you use the camera,videorecording / 4k or 1080p doesnt metta. (comparing with the ZR). And yes,ive read alot about the cracked screens before taking the phone also but..thats the price for its classy look.you need to be careful even if you take a case / protector. The ZR had the same overheating problems when it first came out but sony gave us an update that fixed it.Soo lets hope they will manage to make 1 for the Z2 too On the other hand the Snapdragon is very close to the camera sensor so thats the thingy thats cousin the overheat.And afterall its an No fan device. Uh and for the speakers,yes,they are nice,but not the best as Unease said,but.still louder than prev Z series.cheerz
Thanks for asking these questions Op as I also have the same concerns about buying the Z2 (as I'm sure many others do as well).
Any large purchase, especially with a 2 year contract, is daunting but rest assured that the vast majority of Z2's are problem free. Certainly my week old model hasn't had any problems.
its only early model xperia Z2s which have problems, and if its a problem then sony has to replace it or repair it since its in the warrenty
All Sony Mobile device issues that are Sonys fault is covered by their 2 year warrenty, and modifacation of the device will result in a warrenty void.
Thanks for all the replies, guys.
I've waited way too long and now it's time for Z3 to be released... I know it doesn't offer much more than Z2 but I'm kinda between 2 rocks at the moment. I'd hate to spend 700$ on a flagship if it's going to be "outdated" after 20 days... I think I will though. :\
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Thanks for all the replies, guys.
I've waited way too long and now it's time for Z3 to be released... I know it doesn't offer much more than Z2 but I'm kinda between 2 rocks at the moment. I'd hate to spend 700$ on a flagship if it's going to be "outdated" after 20 days... I think I will though. :\
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buying a z3 instead of a z2 is pointless, they just look different, not much performance wise
only thing sony is doing with z series is trying to find that perfect phone by trying different things
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buying a z3 instead of a z2 is pointless, they just look different, not much performance wise
only thing sony is doing with z series is trying to find that perfect phone by trying different things
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That's exactly what I think to be honest. And the fact that rumored pictures of Z3 show that the speakers aren't front facing is enough for me to take Z2 instead.
How long do they keep updating their phones? I mean will my Z2 get its updates after Z3? and if it will, will they take ages? I haven't owned an Xperia device so I don't know how their support works for older phones.
Apart from Camera Overheating issue , I have ZERO problems for my phone dated 14 W18.
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That's exactly what I think to be honest. And the fact that rumored pictures of Z3 show that the speakers aren't front facing is enough for me to take Z2 instead.
How long do they keep updating their phones? I mean will my Z2 get its updates after Z3? and if it will, will they take ages? I haven't owned an Xperia device so I don't know how their support works for older phones.
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18 months standard, some devices get more or less depending on their popularity for support time and updates are there when they can update, not tooo often but when a version is busted they try to get another update out as soon as
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Thanks for all the replies, guys.
I've waited way too long and now it's time for Z3 to be released... I know it doesn't offer much more than Z2 but I'm kinda between 2 rocks at the moment. I'd hate to spend 700$ on a flagship if it's going to be "outdated" after 20 days... I think I will though. :\
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If z3 truly is thinner I wouldn't be surprised to see overheating, or at the very least CPU throttling, to be worse than z2
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If z3 truly is thinner I wouldn't be surprised to see overheating, or at the very least CPU throttling, to be worse than z2
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heating is caused by bad motherboard design
cpu is next to the camera, neither have any breathing space for cooler air, hence the extreme heating when not using the camera and even worse with using the camera
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heating is caused by bad motherboard design
cpu is next to the camera, neither have any breathing space for cooler air, hence the extreme heating when not using the camera and even worse with using the camera
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And when you are forced to cram them closer together by having a thinner casing it gets worse, don't forget a waterproof sealed casing has little air movement.
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And when you are forced to cram them closer together by having a thinner casing it gets worse, don't forget a waterproof sealed casing has little air movement.
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there is also no heat pipes like found in HTC or iphones
im hoping sony learns from their mistakes, they are slowly learning from some mistakes but not all, they seem to only listen to the majority of complaints, aka poor camera qualitys, bootloader issues
for some reason not enough people complain about heating and thats one of the biggest issues, yet i see little about this issue
I suspect that's because for MOST users it's not an issue, certainly in the week I've had mine it's got no warmer in general use than my galaxy s3 did, I'll admit I've not done any 4k videoing yet but I've not had any close downs or noticeable throttling.
If all Z2's had problems then mine would as well... But mine doesn't, ergo, not all Z2's have problems...
I'm well aware of the specs and I have been wanting to get a Z ultra for quite some time but I have waited until now.
Hands down, I like the bigger screen on the Z Ultra and the price of it makes it even more enticing. Where as the Z2 has faster/newer internals(CPU, etc.), better camera, and a flash(I'm so annoyed by the ZU not having a flash! I used the led flash as a flashlight all the time), but at a more expensive price.
What's your guys' take on it? Waiting is kind of out of the question(I heard about the Z3X which sounds like my next phone after this one... I don't like paying premiums for new releases)... I prefer something stable and working decently out of the box(I know, this is xda).
Key points:
Z Ultra:
+Price is lower
+Bigger screen
-slower
-worse camera, no flash
Z2:
+Faster/updated internals
+better camera
-costs more
Also, I heard there was a decent note taking app from Sony for the Z Ultra, where you could use a stylus and take notes(sort of like the Samsung Galaxy Note series), is that app available for the Z2 as well(anyone happen to know?)?
Thanks in advance, I appreciate any input. What's your take on it? I think I could go either way, I hear about lag on both units(I'm sure rooting can help, but I might keep it simple for now and use it out of the box for rooting/modding).
I happens to have a Z2 here (it is not mine but I got the responsibility to configure it) and all I can say is that it is a great device BUT wouldn't dream about replacing my Ultra. My Ultra is very smooth (CandyKat at the moment with GreatDevs V1 and OC to 2.46 GHz) and the only benefit I can see with the Z2 is more or less the camera when I make the comparison.
I am not talking down the Z2 when I say this but the Ultra offer a great package with a screen that make it a tablet replacement. The Z2 on the other hand is a great device for a person that has a Z today (which I also have) and I would recommend it warmly... if there wasn't an Ultra in the house (or rather two).
Since I read a lot and browse the Internet and so forth, the big screen of the Ultra wins me over - hands down.
camera camera camera. if you want to take even one photo then z2. i own a ultra as a backup to my note 4. the camera on the ultra is really just sad. but everything else is great.
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camera camera camera. if you want to take even one photo then z2. i own a ultra as a backup to my note 4. the camera on the ultra is really just sad. but everything else is great.
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The camera is poor in poor light but otherwise is not that bad other than over sharpining of the jpg
a buddy of mine has the z2...
i bought a z ultra like 2 weeks ago since its even cheaper than the original z
he saw it today and now he wants to replace his z2 with an z ultra
he doesn't use the camera and also he doesnt game much
camera would be my only concern though
also the led flash, if you just wanna have a flashlight, you can the big screen, its decent enough for finding your stuff in the dark
cant talk about hickups since i dont run stock (and never will / or did)
both phones seem blazing fast to me, i really dont think the performance of the z2 is much better
my last phones were a htc magic and galaxy s-plus, just so u know
also i have to say, since i got the ultra, i don't want to use any smaller phone anymore.. they seem so small and bad to use
Thanks to everyone who responded!
Helps a lot. It seems like the more I hear from Z Ultra users, the more I hear about how they love the device despite it's shortcomings(ie: camera and no flash).
I agree, once you behold such a big screen it's hard to go back!
How is battery life? And just to throw it out there, what are some of the custom roms you guys recommend that may improve the battery life/performance?
I was slightly concerned that the slower cpu/gpu might affect performance, and I was going to try to avoid custom roms for the sake of simplicity, but haha, it seems to be unavoidable with most devices I get.
You can slash "Slower" right away. If you care about games, the Z ultra is better desipite having an Older SoC, simply because of its Size.
Besides, even in stock rom, I experience no lags, even with the stock launcher, im in 4.4.4.
Get the Z2 If you want relatively smaller phone, 5 coll isnt really "Small" but compared to the Z ultra, it is.
The camera in the Z2 is also better and has flash LEd.
You should ask yourself, do you want a one handed phone thats fairly recent and a good camera or a 2 handed one, which is amaizing for multi media and reading.
Considering the price of the ZU, you get a premium phone for an amaizing price, just dont treat this phone as a normal phone, it might not fit in the pockets.
I love my ZU.
I snooze I lose, I should've gotten a Z Ultra from the Sony store US site while I still had the chance for it's great price, now it's gone and taken off the site. Now, I'm only looking at the Z2, and behold, my waiting has resulted in the Z2 being back ordered. I could really use a phone by mid January. So I'm still open, but the ZU is probably a closed door for me unless I can find it brand new for a great price and with a warranty. I'm also looking at the LG G pro 2(but it's really pricey for the F530-US At&t compatible LTE) or even a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (the price has really fallen on that phone lately).
A lot of people are having this problem right now as ZU gotten much cheaper. First of all you should decide what's most important for you in your smartphone and how you're going to use it. Both are really great but designed for different kind of people. To help you choose, I'll give you some pros and cons of both devices.
Xperia Z Ultra (I own standard edition but this will mostly apply to GPE as well)
Pros:
- huge screen, which makes browsing the web and watching the movies very comfortable,
- excellent performance in applications and games, backed up by nicely optimized system and solid stock kernel,
- because of it's size ZU doesn't throttle, which is not common in most of the high end 5 inch +/- smartphones packed with Snapdragon 800+, including Xperia Z2, (actually ZU does throttle but just a little, which is not event felt in games)
- operating temperatures are acceptable during stress, which makes sure that battery and hardware will last a little longer (especially non replaceable battery),
- very solid stand by and calling battery life,
- excellent microphone which makes calls really great,
- it's very cheap, considering how premium it's.
Cons:
- lack of flash, this is a problem if you want to make a photos in bad lighting conditions or you need a lighter,
- still photos quality is decent, improved auto mode is kind of useless and makes photos with huge amount of noise. You can
make some of the nice photos during day out of the ZU using manual settings though, photos made in poor lighting conditions are out of question,
- it's too big to use single handed (unless you have huge hands) and you might have some problems putting it in your pocket, might be too heavy for some people,
- front camera is pretty bad,
- battery life is at best only decent, if you're using a lot of screen, you'll need to charge everyday,
- speakers could be louder.
Xperia Z2:
Pros:
- Excellent cameras, still photos and recordings have amazing quality, both selfie and back camera,
- Can record very detailed 4K videos,
- It's much more handy and can be used single handed without problems, it's also much lighter than ZU and easilly pocketable,
- Pretty great battery life, especially with screen on, in some cases almost 2 times better than ZU,
- Speaker is much louder and call quality is also very good,
- It has 3 GB of ram,
- Propably it will be updated to 5.0 faster than ZU.
Cons:
- it has updated specs but in real usage it's weaker than Z Ultra, especially in games because of bigger throttling,
- it's not that smooth, compared to Z Ultra, on 4.4.2 in Z2 i experienced a bit of lagging, opposite to silky smooth ZU on 4.4.4,
- has much smaller screen, which is not as comfortable as ZU screen to use,
- can get very hot during games,
- overheating problems during 4k recording.
Both are finely crafted devices, you can't go wrong with both of them. But keep in mind, that if you need a handy smartphone that can be used single handed then ZU it's not a good choice for you.
Guys, would you help me deciding between both phones? I am coming from Xperia SP
- Z2: What I like:
Better design -for me-, better price, larger developmental community/more better future custom roms, larger battery..
or
- Z3 Plus: What I like:
Better front Camera/Dual Sim/more predictable official updates/better waterproofness/more over-heating issues..
I don't like Z3 ://
you may help me If stated new or neglected something in the comparison like: the front cameras don't differ too much, or Z3+ is not expected to receive Android N or expected to grow large custom roms community like Z2 (I don't think so) etc..
Thanks a lot ))
I think that the most important is the price. It should be your main argument.
After that comes everything else.
To be honest front camera on z2 isn't too good, a lot of noise mostly in darker light conditions.
Z2 comes with (great) headphones which is a big +
Temperature, idk. if you do care about it then don't choose z3+
The flaps may be a pretty important argument. On z2 you've got 2 flaps = 2 times bigger risk that water gets in.
The choice is your, but for me Xperia Z2 is the most functional phone I've ever had (and I would upgrade to z3+ if it didn't cost 2x so much as z2, because it's not worth it)
I would go for the z2.
Much cheaper and isn't really plagued by overheating issues even when gaming, while the z3+ is known for these issues because of it's snapdragon 810, plus it's specs are not really outdated to be honest
Thanks a lot ) here I found an offer for Z3+ that it is not that expensive as x2 price the Z2 at all
That's what made me think about it .. but now I am favoring the Z2 over Z3/Z3+, but now after more searching .. the LG G4 came up with another offer in the same market lol ://
Its camera is amazing but its battery is toooo bad .. do you have any idea about it ? I don't think it deserves taking a risk .. what do you think ??
Yes, that's what I am thinking about .. and the one thing remaining is .. to hope that it will receive a decent Android M Support
Lg. Hmm. I've had g2 and it was pretty good, especially the screen to size ratio and it's quality.
Xperia devices offer waterproofness, good headphones and you can use it with a pencil
If you don't care about these things you may take the g4. 3000mAh also isn't so bad.
But remember that Lg devices get faster cheap in case you would like to sell it someday.
oh, I wasn't paying attension for that
Well, I think I am going to get Z2 )
Thanks a lot for your time )
Can anyone tell me any downsides to this phone? Is there a better choice? Is it worth the money?
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IMHO Not worth it anymore. Marshmallow MAY BE the last big update. It is a 2 years old phone, Is still a capable device, but it is starting to show its age.
Z3+ or a LG G4 is very worth it although both arent new devices
This device has grown a bit old and is on its last few updates (or so goes the 2 year support time)
I have the Xperia z2, I've had it for 2 years now.
1) The battery life is good.
2)Performance (It can play gta sa on max with no lag or very little).
3)The Noise Cancelling Earphones that come with it are amazing.
4)The Xda community has a lot of support for this phone. You can find all kinds of roms for it.
5)However the last update for it will be marshmallow. (I am running the beta 6.0.1)
I would tell you to buy the z3 because they are now in the somewhat same price range. Or if you have the money the G4.
If you have any other specific questions feel free to ask me. Keep in mind everything I say is my personal opinion and is subject to my own personal use.
If you don't have a lot of money, you can get a good phone for a good price. The z2 has everything you need, fantastic qc801 and even 3gb of RAM.
There are some cons:
-no fingerprint sensor
-no qi (but magnetic charger. Keep in mind, you can hold your phone in your hand and use or with magnetic charger, with qi this would be... not so good.)
-USB hidden behind plastic cap. This is crap, they made it better from z3 onward.
As I bought mine like 15 months ago, it was like: why buy a z3 if you can have a z2 for less money? They are almost identical.
Today the price gap may be smaller, so z3 could be more attractive.
I have mine for about a year and half and I wouldn't switch... Before Z2, I used Nexus 4,5 and I've never really complaint about battery life, but after having Z2 for some time... Can't imagine having smaller battery.. It's one of those things, that you get used to so easily... Plus Android is nearly stock, not filled with tons of bloatware, and generally smooth and enjoyable to use.
If you're thinking about Z3/Z2, then I would guess it doesn't really matter which one you choose, since they are quite similar.
In the end, it really depends on what you prefer/need.. If you're really about top new technologies like fingerprint sensor, etc. then you might be disappointed after some time for not having it, but if you are looking for a phone that has very good battery life, display, performance and also looks pretty nice, then I'm sure you'll like it...
Yes it worths if you find it at a good price (maybe second-hand in good condition) , Z3 has 90% same specs as Z2 , same cpu , same memory , same screen and same features .
Here are my personal opinions about Z2 :
The cpu is fast enough to handle any app/game nowadays , I still didn't see any lag even in heavy games , I don't belive in those dual quads , is useless since the phone uses only one quad a time and it's more a commercial thing .
Memory is big enough (3Gb) , maybe too big , I had a S4 with 2Gb and NEVER filled even 1.5Gb and I was on 5.1.1 , actually the 6.0 uses less memory so is even better .
Screen is OK , I admit an AMOLED would be much better but the actual screen on Z2 is just fine , I came from an AMOLED phone (S4) and I got used to TFT really quick .
Battery is the simply the best from all smartphones I had , I am on CM12.1 and I just changed hotplug to MSM-mpdecision wich shuts down unused cores and I get almost 3 days with normal use (internet + calls + wifi all the time) and same smoothness as normal .
Software updates : Marshmallow is the last one for sure , but I just don't care because I will always use Cyanogen versions of ROMS since I hate stock roms full of bloats .
In my honest opinion fingerprint , infrared , heartrate , humidity and temperature sensors are just pointless features added for marketing .
Watch this video , what this guy says there is very true , people are getting easily manipulated with pointless new features by these smartphones companies .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkVQk2ypTg
I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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Sony is always the first to update new versión and sell 1 phone no pixel con new version android in october
The 4k oled 21: 9 screen is addictive since I don't want 16: 9 screens to go 18: 9.
The flying phone has android stock with addictive features.
The battery is neither bad nor excellent I always arrive at bedtime with a battery
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I really like this phone...eventhough not perfect.
Itd easy to handle with one hand in portrait
Camera its not perfect but among the best.
AhsanU said:
I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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its depend, but one thing for sure when you pick sony xperia 1 ,you will get overall new experience on watching movies.
I was in the same position as you @AhsanU. I had the OnePlus 7 pro 256/12gb combo nebula blue and I traded it 2 days ago for a piano black Xperia 1. From my early experience I can tell you a few things.
I love the form factor, the Op7p feels a lot bigger even tho the Xperia is slightly taller. The Xperia screen defaults to 1080p but it isn't a big problem because it's super sharp and watching 4k content is insane. I hated the curved edges of the Op7p. You won't even notice the 90hz display difference.
Battery life is about equal with both device even tho the Xperia has a smaller battery, Sony optimization and the default 1080p screen mode helps there. I do however miss warp charge but the Xperia has power delivery, I have to buy a new car charger and additional USB type c cable.
Speakers are on par, the haptic feedback on Sony is way better, I can't stress this enough. Many times I'd miss notification while my phone was on vibrate on the Op7p.
Camera so far are very comparable with the X1 slightly taking the advantage, both camera suffers when the subject is moving, I have a 2 year old who can't sit still and it's a pain to capture him with both cameras compared to the super fast s10+ and iPhone xs max.
That's all I can think of for now.
Coming from a Note 9 & Galaxy S10+, here's my opinion:
The Sony fits what you need it to fit, what I mean by that is, devices can be tailored more for you than others by having different features etc.
The Note 9 & S10+ where both great, however they where great at being all round good, I felt they didn't stand out in a lot of aspects, which is where the Sony gets the advantage.. the software on Sony is leaps ahead of Samsung, don't get me wrong, OneUI is so much better than the older software and feels smoother, however Sony's feels much more refined and flows better in my opinion.
I know how the 3300mAh battery looks on paper but in my experience it's held up well and something you should be too concerned about, is it the best? No, does it need to be?, Not really, of course it would benefit from a larger cell but is 3300mAh enough to make me not want the phone? Hell no!
Then of course we have the screen & haptic feedback, this is where I feel like you need a Sony, the amount of reviews I saw that said both where gimmicky makes no sense to me, if the sharpness & clarity of 4K is a "gimmick" then surely the 90hz trend for fluidity is too?.. Anyway my point is the 4K screen is beautiful, best of the best in my opinion, same with the haptic feedback, was palmed off as gimmicky but it's something so many users overlook, having a powerful vibration for media, games & most importantly notifications is something lacking in so many other phones..
To conclude, I'm happy with my Xperia 1, and don't regret getting one
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Delighted with mine, especially interested to read that you liked the XZ1, that was one of my favourite ever phones in terms of form factor and build and in my opinion, the Xperia 1 is the spiritual successor to the XZ1. Basically, if you liked the XZ1 you should love the Xperia 1 as it adds a better screen, far more speed, better battery life, superior camera ability and various other things.
I've never used the OnePlus 7 as I had a 6T and wasn't especially impressed by it, in addition I'm not a fan of curving screens....can't see what benefit they add.
Looks great in white as well!
Yeah I would say so. Depends of course which device you have to begin with. As far as I'm concerned, the Xperia Z2 is Sony's best smartphone ever, and design-wise, the Xperia 1 is a downgrade from the Xperia Z2, although to be fair to the Xperia 1, it looks better than the entire Xperia X series, and is somewhat of a return to form for Sony, starting to resemble the classical OmniBalance design of the early Xperia Z series, and Sony made that clear by using glas for its back (and finally getting the NFC chip located on the back side again) and also releasing the Xperia 1 in the Xperia Z colors, black, white and purple (a long time ago we saw a purple Xperia flagship!). The Xperia 1 still has some of that soap bar design Sony introduced in the XZ2 though, but it's kept at a minimum here, thank God. And while I do prefer the stylish edges of the Z/Z1/Z2, I think the aluminium frame of the 1 looks quite okay. And the classical round power button of the Xperia Z should have been brought back too; the current generic pill designed power button, only works for camera and volume; Sony's power button was unique and really cool looking, and also much easier to press too.
But other than that, the Xperia 1 is an improvement in most ways over the early Xperia Z series (I'm no fan of the Z3, Z3+ and Z5; the Xperia Z series began going downhill with these devices, and that downhill continued with the Xperia X series), although there are some other drawbacks compared to the Z2, but that's mostly due to the downgrade known as Android 9 Pie, and not with the actual hardware. The 21:9 screen may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's an acquired taste, and personally I really like it at this point. The lack of wireless charging doesn't bother me as I'd never use it anyway, although perhaps it should have been added for keeping the USB port in a more mint condition. And I imagine wireless charging doesn't work that well with Sony's excellent battery care, which learns how long you charge the device, and adapts after that. Of course the battery could have been more powerful, like at the very least, 4,000 mAh, but you can get a lot of extra juice out of the 3,330 mAh battery by using black wallpaper, dark theme and so on in everything.
Personally, I think Sony's change in direction to OLED, is a mixed bag. Yeah, OLED looks great, and is very useful for saving battery life if you use completely black wallpaper and dark theme and so on, but the problem with OLED is that it wears out much faster than LCD, and it's also more sensitive to burn-ins and so on, so for that reason, I wish Sony would have kept using LCD screens. I mean after 6 years, my Xperia Z still has the exact same screen quality as it did when it was brand new; I know that won't be the case with my Xperia 1 when it turns 6.
The two main issues with the Xperia 1 right now, is that Sony has yet to add it on their Open Devices list, and that Sony still hasn't updated Xperia Transfer Mobile to work with the Xperia 1 and the Xperia 10 (I imagine this is an Android Pie issue more than anything). These two issues I'm sure will be resolved in the coming months, but it bothers me that it wasn't done at launch.
Perhaps the best thing about the Xperia 1, is that it has no ugly notches. While Sony has complied with the popularity of what I call, bezels autism, which has given us these ugly and disturbing notched smartphones, fortunately Sony didn't go all the way with the bezels autism trend, and so the Xperia 1 has a full screen, as it's supposed to be.
Not really an upgrade.
It's going to come down to 90hz screen or 21:9, that's basically it.
Rest is about the same
It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Pretty much all manufacturers have abandoned their phones using your logic
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Well obviously Sony will abandon it if everyone's going to have your attitude and not buy non-Apple and non-Samsung devices. It might even get so bad that all we will get is Apple and Sapple. And that's the main reason I buy a non-mainstream smartphone brand like the Xperia, because I want market competition and also, Sony is a world class brand, Sony understands quality and design, and their Open Devices program alone is a good reason to buy the Xperia 1. We want open source and freedom in our smartphones.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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maybe they are not list the changelog but i can say they fix something in newest update.
i notice the improvement even not major.
so your posting not entirely valid.
you must look even samsung is rare to provide the update except their the latest device and in term of speed update they are slower, too slow