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I have the samsung vibrant and recently downloaded pda net so I can tether my phone. then this morning I wake to a discouraging text message that says my data has been slowed for the billing cycle. definitely a problem for me. because according to my contract I have unlimited 3g data not capped 3g. is there any way around this.
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Yea I got that too but I still got 3g connection
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Wrong, the contract says unlimited data. It doesn't specify a speed.
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Wrong, the contract says unlimited data. It doesn't specify a speed.
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And being that that contract actually says unlimited I should the able to call them and have them give me back my full speed
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ironlood said:
And being that that contract actually says unlimited I should the able to call them and have them give me back my full speed
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u dont get it right?
unlimited data doesnt mean unlimited full speed
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I don't think they're capping your data. They're capping your speed, slowing down your data connection. So when they say unlimited data, it still is unlimited data. I'm no longer a T-Mo customer, but from what I remember, they don't guarantee speeds.
Just so it is clear. Read your T&C for more details.
T-MobileUSA recently started enforcing data throttling. This is different from a data cap. Specifically, if you use more than 5gb of data in your billing cycle, T-mo may throttle your speed down to a slower speed. This is to discourage people from tethering their phones to their computers for internet, and push the use of their usb data rockets.
A simple google search for "tmobile data throttling" will provide you with even more information.
Yea thats right. After hitting the 5gb data usage you get that txt msg and supposedly they will throttle to a lower speed. But like I mentioned before. They didnt do that to me. So OP. Check first before you want to complain. And yes its unlimited data. Just be glad tmo doesnt charge us more for hitting past 5gb. Other carriers throttle past 2gb. I know before our cap was 10gb.
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Yea thats right. After hitting the 5gb data usage you get that txt msg and supposedly they will throttle to a lower speed. But like I mentioned before. They didnt do that to me. So OP. Check first before you want to complain. And yes its unlimited data. Just be glad tmo doesnt charge us more for hitting past 5gb. Other carriers throttle past 2gb. I know before our cap was 10gb.
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Yeah definetly must have over looked that part in a fit of I just got throttled rage
Well I think in turn all t-mobile users should tether their phones and attack data intensive sites and devour the limitless data
Hopefully they add a solution for tethering because the vibrant is due to get froyo and the ability too tether is included without apps even a 5 dollar fee to prevent throttled data would be nice
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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that's not true, I have used well over 5 gb and have never tethered my phone. downloading roms takes a lot of usage. I am on verizon though and never been throttled
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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I don't tether or download torrents or anything like that with my data plan. I dont even download ROMs. What I do use it for is to use applications on my phone like the MediaHUB, beyondPOD and amazonMP3 and i watch tv shows, movies and pod casts and buy music. you know, like the Avatar movie that came with my phone so they could show off how great it is for doing that sort of thing.
To then throttle my speed because I use the phone to download content from apps that come installed on my phone when I bought it is bull. They claim that only 1% use over 5GB a month, but that is the same thing they said when it was at 10GB throttle point. Is that 1% counted from only the people that have unlimited data plans? do they include phones that don't have really have many apps that are data centric, like the sidekicks, blackberrys and even winmo... Are they going to throttle everyone that exceeds 5GB a month on the Galaxy S Tab too?
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I don't tether or download torrents or anything like that with my data plan. I dont even download ROMs. What I do use it for is to use applications on my phone like the MediaHUB, beyondPOD and amazonMP3 and i watch tv shows, movies and pod casts and buy music. you know, like the Avatar movie that came with my phone so they could show off how great it is for doing that sort of thing.
To then throttle my speed because I use the phone to download content from apps that come installed on my phone when I bought it is bull. They claim that only 1% use over 5GB a month, but that is the same thing they said when it was at 10GB throttle point. Is that 1% counted from only the people that have unlimited data plans? do they include phones that don't have really have many apps that are data centric, like the sidekicks, blackberrys and even winmo... Are they going to throttle everyone that exceeds 5GB a month on the Galaxy S Tab too?
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I don't download torrents I tether my phone to my home computer because its easier to work with a full keyboard (not too mention streaming netflix).
The fact that they cripple or cap the functionality of the data is unfair. I understand that they have a data modem that they try to promote but they shouldn't force you into its arm's.
I still ask what they will do when FroYo introduces tethering ... Will they cap everyone who exceeds the 5 gb limit
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You did agree to the terms and conditions of their service, right?
It may have changed since you signed up, but here is the current one:
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/P...&PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true
Some of the highlights that I believe have not changed for a few years now are:
Number 1. Acceptance.
Number 5. Our Rights to Make Changes.
Unfortunately those two topics are seen with almost any provider. You can continue with T-mobile and pay less per month, or you can always go to Verizon where they (so far) haven't put a throttle in place and pay more per month.
I thought they already announced a tethering plan for an additional 15$ with the unlimited data so 40$ a month is what it still cost .well in my neck of the woods
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T-mobile is planning on charging for tethering just like every other company is already doing..You should be happy your able to get more than 2gb unlike at&t..The cap was 10gb before they introduced Hspa+ I'm not complaining..Like i said be happy you actually have unlimited data
Wow I don't think you realise how lucky you are being capped at 5gb.... here in the UK most networks cap "unlimited" at 500mb! I'm with vodafone and I get 1gb, if I exceed that then I instantly get charged £5 per 500mb (even 1kb over and I'm charged!)
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Im on vodafone uk and theu told me i had unlimited data but its only one gb cap ****ing lying scum bags
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ironlood said:
I don't download torrents I tether my phone to my home computer because its easier to work with a full keyboard (not too mention streaming netflix).
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Wait...so you use your phone as your home internet connection?
Edit: Also, saying you want everyone to start tethering their phones and basically flood their network, to punish them? More than likely that would just cause them to put a data cap on their plans, like every other provider is doing. I'm on Verizon, so I don't care, but shooting yourself in the foot isn't exactly smart.
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Give me a break, using >5G of data on your mobile phone is CLEARLY not using the data ON the phone, therefore they should have the right to do whatever they want to limit you at that point.
I'm sure T-Mobile has a plan that's intended to be used as your main internet connection. What you have is intended to feed your phone, not your torrents.
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it is SOOOOO EASY to get that much data usage ON a phone. Simply just keep pandora or other internet radio constantly running along with the fact that you can multi-task and use data for other **** too and before you know it you're over 5gb
I unlocked my vibrant and use it on AT&T Data plan for non-smartphones.
I only start using the data plan 2 months ago and the first month data usage is "37128.54 MB of Unlimited". So I start to cut down a little bit and this month data usage is "12974.35 MB of Unlimited"
To my understanding 1000 MB = 1 GB?
so 37,000 MB = 37 GB and 12,900 = 12 GB?
I was really surprise when I saw the data usage because I know I did not use that much. Most of the usage is on my laptop since I use Mobile Ap but only for webs surfing, no downloads above 100 MB or any major downloads at all.
Only when I'm using the internet that "Use Data Network" is activated. So it's possible even with "Data Network Usage Off" on the phone but somehow it still stay on?
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and I think AT&T capped my data plan speed because I'm at home using it right now and only getting EDGE, where-as I always get 3G.
Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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not possible. plus that's fraud.
Ik its fraud but wouldnt be fraud from them to lower my speeeds cause i sign a contract for unlimited meaning all i want to use if they drop it to E is like not having internet is useless..... And thank you anyways
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
Want to hide your data usage from AT&T? Use wifi.
There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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jeanmauri90 said:
There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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You can't hide ANY data while using their network. All you can do is hide the fact that you ARE tethering, not that you're using extra data all of a sudden.
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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That's a good point. I'm sure that would work if someone wanted to take AT&T to small claims court. But then again as long as I've had "unlimited" through them, there was always a 5GB cap that was spelled out in the fine print of my contract. The only exception to that was for iPhone users. That's the only reason I switched to an iPhone a couple years back.
What contract? There is no contract for data, only for voice. There are Terms of Service but no contract.
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Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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Take them to small claims court. They've already lost once before recently for throttling. http://consumerist.com/2012/03/att-writes-check-to-victor-in-small-claims-court-suit.html
I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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Switch to Sprint.
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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That's because sprint and Verizon's 3g blows. 3g on ATT is faster than Wimax 4g for sprint in most areas.
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I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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that really sucks that they're limiting you, I assume you're in a busy area and that's going to be expected. Like one of the other posters suggested, try using WiFi. If I recall you can cruise to any place that has AT&T wifi and get it free (like starbucks and McDonalds and sams club) and do your major downloading there. I know that isn't on the go, but if you want a coffee, it isn't the worst suggestion.
I have had the same question for awhile now. I am using Simple mobile 4G unlimited data (so they so boldly advertize until they shut you down). I really wanted to take advantage of the "Mobile on the go". In my vehicle I have Bluetooth that would allow me to stream music on the go (On my long commute through Houston everyday), or use Netflix on that long tripe with the family & tether to my Tablet to take care of business, stream, movies. You get the point.
As for down loading, I am not sure why you would want to do any major downloading through a phone anyway. Using your home network is much better for major downloading.
This is my experience with ATT Unlimited Data Plan:
I got grandfathered into the unlimited data plan through my old iphone original, if my memory serves me correct. I don't use data heavily like some of you do and I tether infrequently. Last summer, we were at a community swimming pool where we live and I let my daughter to tether to my Samsung android phone. My daughter at the time had an iphone 3gs. About two weeks later, I got a nasty message from att telling me that they noticed that I was tethering and that they will put me on an appropriate data plan if I don't call them back. So, I called and played dumb and they told me that if I ever tether again, they will go ahead and terminate my unlimited data plan.
I received a Samsung Note 10.1 (model #8013) for christmas, and guess what? I have tethered the tablet to my android phone, thinking they won't notice the android traffic coming from an android phone. I have been careful, not downloading tablet-specific apps from the play store and such. Also, I only tether when there's no wifi, it's the last resort. It's been over a month and I haven't heard from them. I am sure ATT is chomping at the bits to get me so they can get rid of one more unlimited data user.
Am I committing a fraud? Maybe. I'd like to think I am engaging in a civil disobedience against an unjust power.
Isn't AT&T also committing a fraud, when they are advertisizing "unlimited" when in fact there's a limit?
The amount of data is unlimited. And they do warn you if you go above a certain amount they will throttle you down. And they let you know the plan is for one phone only and offer you a tethering add-on. They offer thousands of free hotspots for heavy downloaders and give you an app to find them.
Its their superhighway - you just pay the tolls and follow the rules. You don't like them, but it's not fraud on their part.
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Ok my idea is this:
You run this app and it asks if you have an unlimited data plan or not. Then the app runs in the background and by wifi means beyond my understanding it searches for other phones running said app and connects to them creating small clusters of phones that are interconnected, when a phone comes into range it joins a cluster or bridges two clusters together. The purpose of all this is that data traffic is then siphoned through the phones that have unlimited data plans. I'm not even sure something like this is possible but if there is anyone out there that thinks it is i'm sure they are on XDA. Is this possible?
I definately don't think providers would like that (if it were possible. Theoretically if it were (other than using one phone as a hotspot) such apps could join said phones for data use of a phone that had reached data limit ie. Phone A. has unlimited data phone B. has 2gb. Phone B. has reached data limit then through an app uses phone A. to connect to web etc.
Guess it would be cool!
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I've been consistently getting 30 mbps easily and I've gone 11 GB into my cycle in 10 days. And my connection has been slow like this for this last 2 days. Network optimization my ass. This is complete crap (MOD edit: profanity removed).
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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I'm sure it's already started. I live out in the boondocks (with a tower not far from me that doesn't server any large towns, but DOES service a semi-major highway), and I went over 4.7GB last week and, sure enough, as soon as I went over, BAM! My 12-15mbps speed went down to .5-1.5mbps.
I was tethering, but I don't pull a TON of data each month (I hover around 10-11GB for the month, at the most); I mainly use it as low-latency connections for online games.
there's no way that tower was 'crowded' at that time of night (9PM). Speeds weren't restored until morning.
If they throttle us down to 3mbps its still a lot better that att and tmob throttling down to 56kbps from what I've read previously lol
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Yeah I've heard that the throttling was supposed to be in October but it seems they got the months mixed up. I've been unlimited for years and up to today I haven't experienced any slow down. Where I live is not a congested stress I wouldn't think but that doesn't mean they won't start on me as well. My speed is only around 10 down at anytime with any phone but i wouldn't want to show down much more. I knew sooner or later they would get us. Jesse
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I don't see how is legal to throttle unlimited at 5 gig and not throttle a 10 gig plan at 5 gig.
It seems like it would be but that don't mean they won't do it anyway. Jesse
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Seems like a class action suite may be in order.
What I would like to see is how the "average" of 4.7 GB was calculated.
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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I could use 10 GB in a day, easily. Downloaded a couple 3GB 1080p movies in that time period. I use it for my girlfriend's house as a wifi hotspot constantly. I use it for streaming Netflix. Once my 2 TB portable hard drive comes in. I'm going to start my quest for using 1 TB of data in a month as one final screw you to Verizon
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Heck I can easily use 10GB in one day downloading ROMs. Certainly can use 10GB in 10 days using my Slingbox as well. Not that hard at all to do.
Thankfully I haven't seen the optimization happen yet and I am running at about 10gB per month. What will be interesting is how bad it gets when verizon starts turning on all the VoLTE cities and seeing how quickly the unlimited data customers get optimized into hell because they need the bandwidth for the voice data.
Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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still haven't seen any slowdown, but i live in a rural area. As long as they stick to their statement about when they will throttle, i should be fine. Averaging 13gbs a month mostly streaming music and flashing roms.