Is Dell Venue getting Android 5.0 Lollipop?
I doubt it.
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I doubt it.
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being you have an unlocked device you should try to build it based off the Asus device tree , it looks promising for the 2014 V7 3740 / V8 3840 at least. . . .
Considering the tablet is only 1 year old, I would be surprised if we didn't get a Lollipop update from Dell.
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Considering the tablet is only 1 year old, I would be surprised if we didn't get a Lollipop update from Dell.
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But Dell hasn't even bothered to update us to 4.4.4
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But Dell hasn't even bothered to update us to 4.4.4
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why should they?
go to 01.org/android-ia/downloads - version of android from intel is 4.4.2 - so i think we've to wait for intel
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why should they?
go to 01.org/android-ia/downloads - version of android from intel is 4.4.2 - so i think we've to wait for intel
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But the new venue 3840 do have 4.4.4 even though Intel is on 4.4.2
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x86 code is in AOSP now the nexus player is a Intel device manufactured by Asus.
android-ia is Intel's open source project for tablet like devices that have a traditional UEFI.
android-x86 is a project for more PC based
I believe Dell , Acer, and a few other brands use an Intel reference design so Intel supply's them with a base image and they customize parts and such then the manufacture distribute the updates. So there damned by what ever Intel release to them.
clearly Intel's focus has been on Android 5.0.x and bay what ever based devices I have to assume having your chip in a nexus based devices is the launching point Intel is hoping will bring them into the mobile market so, I imagine they put a lot of their resources there.
4.4.2 is the highest version I have seen for clover view plus except the Asus line. I believe based on how often they get updates Asus must build their mage in house.
The V7 / V8 1st Gen I fear are stuck at 4.4.2 forever.
The V7 / V8 2nd Gen will probably get Lollipop before the first of the year or shortly after.
Being the 1st Gen V8 has an unlocked bootloader I figured someone would be trying to build lollipop for it by now.
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social-design-concepts said:
The V7 / V8 1st Gen I fear are stuck at 4.4.2 forever.
The V7 / V8 2nd Gen will probably get Lollipop before the first of the year or shortly after.
Being the 1st Gen V8 has an unlocked bootloader I figured someone would be trying to build lollipop for it by now.
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How to know which Gen I have?
carlosea said:
How to know which Gen I have?
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Go into the settings, then about tablet, and check you model number
If it's 3730 or 3830 it's first gen
3740 and 3840 are second gen
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I am disappointed by dell. Even samsung still push updates for their older galaxy phones.
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I am disappointed by dell. Even samsung still push updates for their older galaxy phones.
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Dell isn't interested in updates just sales, they could simply release their kernel source codes and unlock all boot loaders, to allow the community to modify and build their own ROMs, but that might hurt sales.
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Dell isn't interested in updates just sales, they could simply release their kernel source codes and unlock all boot loaders, to allow the community to modify and build their own ROMs, but that might hurt sales.
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Yeah? How?
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Yeah? How?
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I don't understand your question.
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I don't understand your question.
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How does it hurt sales to release the code for older devices? There are plenty of people that have to have the latest and greatest around. Enough to cover the perceived loss of revenue.
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How does it hurt sales to release the code for older devices? There are plenty of people that have to have the latest and greatest around. Enough to cover the perceived loss of revenue.
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Oh, that's what dell's tech say, they want a reason not to release the source so they say it hurts sales, so they don't have to release source.
In a way it's true it would hurt sales, as less people would buy a newer devices if they could upgrade their older device to latest android.
most people that want to upgrade to latest android want to do so without having to buy a new device.
If the only way people can get the latest version of android is to buy a new tablet, then naturally sales would decrease by releasing source code, allowing people to build the latest version of android on their device rather than making them buy a new device.
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Oh, that's what dell's tech say, they want a reason not to release the source so they say it hurts sales, so they don't have to release source.
In a way it's true it would hurt sales, as less people would buy a newer devices if they could upgrade their older device to latest android.
most people that want to upgrade to latest android want to do so without having to buy a new device.
If the only way people can get the latest version of android is to buy a new tablet, then naturally sales would decrease by releasing source code, allowing people to build the latest version of android on their device rather than making them buy a new device.
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If there is one out there that is similar to the Venue 7/8 first model and someone cracks that one, the source for this one won't matter.
I understand the second model 7/8 is slightly different enough not to be compatible, right?
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If there is one out there that is similar to the Venue 7/8 first model and someone cracks that one, the source for this one won't matter.
I understand the second model 7/8 is slightly different enough not to be compatible, right?
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Well if you are going to pull out the old if word, might as well say, if dell releases source code then we will have the code, or if dell releases the latest android for our device then searching for other methods to get 5.0 won't matter either.
If you are going to use the if word, why not go big?
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Well if you are going to pull out the old if word, might as well say, if dell releases source code then we will have the code, or if dell releases the latest android for our device then searching for other methods to get 5.0 won't matter either.
If you are going to use the if word, why not go big?
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For those users that want 5.0 on their tablet, I see two possibilities.
1. Wait for Dell to release 5.0.
2. Setup a fund to buy a Dell V8, as 7 simply is out of the question.
3. Give the tablet to a dev or to someone who is willing and able to build you guys a usable rom.
If enough Dell V8 owners are interested the cost to each would be almost nothing.
The paying members get the rom first, as they are the investors, The dev or person agreeing to build the rom gets to keep the tablet, the rest of the community gets a rom in due time, those not wanting to wait can simply become an investor as well.
The tablet is less than $100 so, divide that between members, 200 members cost each member 50 cents. 100 members cost each member $1 and so on.
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My problem with Dell and their lack of updates or worse, the updates they have pushed (kitkat) has many flaws to it. Heck, I'd be happy if they just fixed the kitkat version and got all the bugs out of it. (laggy, unable to read sd card, reboots etc..)
Now, if Dells argument is they wont update "older" units then I would have to disagree. I bought 2 Venue 8 (3830) at Office Depot only 2 months ago... I certainly wouldn't consider 2 months old..
My wife still uses her venue (rarely) but I am currently using my old nexus 7 for the time being... Too many bugs in kitkat have prevented me in using the venue as a daily driver.
Will keep my fingers crossed a dev is able to put together a nice stable custom rom for this as it would be rather nice...
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Guys, I'm working on developing an AOSP ROM. I need your help in choosing a phone I can use for the testing. I was thinking of starting with a cheap Samsung Galaxy series phone since they have dual bootloaders (boot.bin and sbl.bin). Better safe than sorry, right? My work partner suggested we start off with a Vanilla Android phone, like an old LG. Can you guys recommend me one to proceed with? Is there a phone out there with Vanilla Google Android and possibly two bootloaders ?
Anyone?
c'mon guys !!
Most developers like the Nexus series phones since they are easy to unlock the bootloader and have a lot of other devs.
Thank you for replying But is the Samsung Galaxy series the only one in the Android universe with dual bootloaders?
Also, what phones run on Vanilla Android other than the Google Nexus series? I take it the old LGs do? If so, which ones?
Someone, please respond...
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Someone please provide some input on this..
I REALLY gotta know this at the earliest so I can acquire the phone. Someone, please help out !!
not sure if this helps but the pantech burst is getting the ICS update shortly (they have it ready just having server issues trying to get it out today) its a cheep but badass att lte phone
I don't live in the USA. I need something available internationally. Also, it needs Vanilla Android. Is Google Nexus my only chance?
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I don't live in the USA. I need something available internationally. Also, it needs Vanilla Android. Is Google Nexus my only chance?
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If your serious about development and testing pure vanilla Android is the way to go and the Google's Nexus line of phones and tablet it the way to go. You can easily compile AOSP for these devices, easily unlock the bootloader and root to flash custom ROM's. Also kernel sources are easily available, along with other great resources that will allow you to learn a lot about development.
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If your serious about development and testing pure vanilla Android is the way to go and the Google's Nexus line of phones and tablet it the way to go. You can easily compile AOSP for these devices, easily unlock the bootloader and root to flash custom ROM's. Also kernel sources are easily available, along with other great resources that will allow you to learn a lot about development.
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That's EXACTLY what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for your time! Considering I'll start with JB, is it necessary to acquire the latest Nexus available, or will any older variant do?
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That's EXACTLY what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for your time! Considering I'll start with JB, is it necessary to acquire the latest Nexus available, or will any older variant do?
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I wouldn't go any lower then the nexus s, since that's the oldest pure Google device that officially supports compiling AOSP JB from source. Personally I'd pick up the galaxy nexus if you want something right now. If you can wait until around November (November 5th) it's rumored Google is launching several (Supposedly five new nexus devices) new nexus devices to celebrate androids 5th birthday :thumbup:
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I wouldn't go any lower then the nexus s, since that's the oldest pure Google device that officially supports compiling AOSP JB from source. Personally I'd pick up the galaxy nexus if you want something right now. If you can wait until around November (November 5th) it's rumored Google is launching several (Supposedly five new nexus devices) new nexus devices to celebrate androids 5th birthday :thumbup:
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Good to know Guess I'll be picking up the Galaxy Nexus then!
Hello folks, i'm new to this forum and new to the world of smartphones. own a windows phone but have an inquiry about android which i'm sure my genious brothers here will have an answer to. if i buy an android device that has android 2.3 gingerbread and is not upgradeable to version 4.0 ICS, will the apps work fine on the phone. i have the habit of using my phones for atleast 2 years. so if i'm using an android 2.3 version phone for the next 2 years, will the apps work on my phone? like they wont ask for update of the operating system of the phone?
like in Iphone you need to have the last ios to install and use instagram. is the same case with android too?
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Hello folks, i'm new to this forum and new to the world of smartphones. own a windows phone but have an inquiry about android which i'm sure my genious brothers here will have an answer to. if i buy an android device that has android 2.3 gingerbread and is not upgradeable to version 4.0 ICS, will the apps work fine on the phone. i have the habit of using my phones for atleast 2 years. so if i'm using an android 2.3 version phone for the next 2 years, will the apps work on my phone? like they wont ask for update of the operating system of the phone?
like in Iphone you need to have the last ios to install and use instagram. is the same case with android too?
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Google will be phasing out old versions of android, and developers may make the switch to newer android systems as well. Currently, about 60-80% or more of the apps currently can support Gingerbread, since Gingerbread devices make up 50% of android devices in the world. (More info here.) I figure, your phone could probably be supported for another year.
If you are clinging on to a phone for 2 years, get a good one! Most ICS Android devices are not too expensive. If your phone is a popularly branded one (Samsung, HTC, Motorola), and if you are willing to take risks, you might be able to upgrade the firmware in your machine, unofficially though.
Now let me type this out for you....
Every time Google releases a new os they release the platform sdk along with the actual source code.... Next developers download these and start building their apps.... Assume that you are a developer and you set the build sdk to a higher android version say ICS then if your phone is on gb you can't run it so it is at the helms of the developers to decide to support an older platform or not.... And forward compability is possible in android reverse compability may or may not work.... Any doubts post it below I would be happy to respond sir...
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thanks for the prompt response guys and clearing my confusion i'm currently using htc hd 7 windows phone 7.5 but the battery really sucks so was thinking of changing the phone and buying an android one but the phones i was checking are out of my range. can you please suggest some good cheap android ics phones?
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thanks for the prompt response guys and clearing my confusion i'm currently using htc hd 7 windows phone 7.5 but the battery really sucks so was thinking of changing the phone and buying an android one but the phones i was checking are out of my range. can you please suggest some good cheap android ics phones?
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What's the budget? There are a bunch of xperias with ics (some even upgradable to jb).
There are plenty cheap stock ICS phones, built by LG and Samsung, such as the Galaxy Ace. Look around for the best value for money.
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There are plenty cheap stock ICS phones, built by LG and Samsung, such as the Galaxy Ace. Look around for the best value for money.
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lulz. bad advice. the galaxy ace came default with froyo, upgradeable to gingerbread, but if anyone buys it now it'll came default with gingerbread.
but definitely not came default with ics and not upgradeable to it either, officially.
i own one previously.
imho ace is not what op is looking for. by todays standard, amv6 phone is a big no-no.
Why has Google ignored nexus 9, I bought this tablet so that it would be first to get updates but it's the opposite? Why Google why?
Chill out! Its not even been a week since announcement!!!
Google has identified another memory leak in 5.1, maybe they fix it before the rollout.
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Google has identified another memory leak in 5.1...
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Ugh, are you serious! That makes it 4 releases in a row they've given us faulty software (5.0,5.01,5.02,5.1). Are they even trying?
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Yeah, it's only a small problem compared to 5.0.1, but it still exists... :/
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Ugh, are you serious! That makes it 4 releases in a row they've given us faulty software (5.0,5.01,5.02,5.1). Are they even trying?
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Why don't you try to code
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Chill out! Its not even been a week since announcement!!!
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Considering this is the first device that shipped with 5.0 and two+ year old devices are getting major updates first... Yeah people should be pissed
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Considering this is the first device that shipped with 5.0 and two+ year old devices are getting major updates first... Yeah people should be pissed
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64-bit must be giving the developers trouble compared to the other Nexus devices, or maybe there's something else about the K1.
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Yes, I want to know myself. Google suposed to be giving nexus devices upgrades for 2 years and the nexus 9 is still a new device and no update to version 5.1 yet. Stock images is still 5.0.1 version. I tryied updating to the pure AOSP 5.1 from the dev section from this forum but it had errors so bad it was unusable.
We already know that 5.1 still has memory leaks. At this point, I would prefer to wait another couple weeks and have them release 5.1.1
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well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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I believe this too, due to the extremely low "nexus market share" this device has. Anyway, eventually it will be released.. Let's hope that it will be a final version. There will always be bugs, this is how software development works.
The SoC is a catastrophic choice. No other devices use it, I think, and development will be less than nothing from Nvidia.
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The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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Umm, my Nexus 7 (2013 variant) still hasn't got 5.1 either....
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well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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Reports of "memory leak" from morons who don't even know what a memory leak *is* are meaningless. Your assumption that "they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1" is without merit.
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Reports of "memory leak" from morons who don't even know what a memory leak *is* are meaningless. Your assumption that "they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1" is without merit.
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I ve had memory leak on my nexus 6 with its latest 5.1 version 3. I ve seen it with my eyes. Also the same problem on my girlfriend's nexus 5. And trust me, I know that I am looking at
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I ve had memory leak on my nexus 6 with its latest 5.1 version 3. I ve seen it with my eyes. Also the same problem on my girlfriend's nexus 5. And trust me, I know that I am looking at
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lol. So does "everybody" who doesn't understand Android memory management.
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lol. So does "everybody" who doesn't understand Android memory management.
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Right, u know better... There is memory leak , its there. Whether u like it or not. The only thing that u have been doing is being acting like a smartas* , next time try to explain if u will.
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Right, u know better... There is memory leak , its there. Whether u like it or not. The only thing that u have been doing is being acting like a smartas* , next time try to explain if u will.
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Whatever pal. Believe whatever you like.
But the fact that neither you nor anyone else has actually *demonstrated* a memory leak really says a lot about how well (or rather poorly) you understand.
In fact, first thing I would do is challenge you to explain (without looking it up) what a memory leak *ACTUALLY IS*, as well as *prove* that there is one in play.
My Dell Venue 3830 out performs newer versions of the same tablet. I love it. I have tried newer versions of the tablet, and have returned them favoring this 3830.
Would it be smart to start a bounty for someone to develop a lollipop based ROM for it?
Who else would be interested?
How does one go about starting a bounty?
Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 received Lollipop June 2015
I use the same Dell Venue 3830. The spec of our tablet is almost equals with Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 (Atom Z2580 2Ghz, 2GB RAM). Asus just announce upgrade for Zenphone 5-6. So we could expect XDA developers could port it to our Dell.
I certainly hope so, I love this little tablet. Quick, snappy, and beautiful.
Have you tried the ART runtime ? I always failed enabling it. Stuck in boot logo then restart to Dalvik
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Sure have. it has worked for me, although I really see no difference...
has anyone managed to get ANY custom rom installed for a Venue 7 .. preferably 3741...
I am serious about a bounty. I love the 3840, which is the best tablet I have gotten from them. Runs smooth and fast as butter. I will set up a Paypal and donate it ALL to anyone who can create a 90% working ROM.
count me in
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I am serious about a bounty. I love the 3840, which is the best tablet I have gotten from them. Runs smooth and fast as butter. I will set up a Paypal and donate it ALL to anyone who can create a 90% working ROM.
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im in.... $20 from me but like y0himba said it needs to be at least 90% working, 3G, wifi, Ext SD most of the bells & whistles.... doesnt have to be lollipop but of course that would be preferred...
if anyone can get CM 10 or 11 or AOKP to work i would be very happy
I meant the 3830 LOL. I will drop $20 or more on a ROM for this puppy. 4.4.4 at least, CM, Lollipop would be GREAT.
Would anyone be kind enough to add on 3840 for this CM? I'd literally appreciate it so damn much, thanks!
I hope you succeed, because seems that dell already forgot the 3830 tablet. I would like to offer my help but my knowledge about this stuff is pretty basic. It will be great if you were able to release android lollipop for this tablet.
I have absolutely no knowledge of even where to begin. However, I do have money to contribute to a person who can make a working complete, working ROM for the tablet.
Like it was said above, this was a case of bait and switch. This was the first version of the tablet, and had the best hardware. It was sold at a loss for a while, then boom "Upgrade", which had worse hardware and ran like ****e. I have a 3840, and no one in the family will use it. The damn thing is too slow even to load a Kindle book right after it had been factory reset.
Building a ROM for this will net the ROM builder a bit of cash and do a great service for the community.
not feeling any love, looks like no one cares about our poor pathetic tablets...
DELL really sucks doing this.... its very much like an Apple scam ... mine is the 3741 which supposedly has 8gb but after the android system with system apps and all you have around 3.5gb free.
then you cant even move apps to EXT-SD so good luck installing many large apps.
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not feeling any love, looks like no one cares about our poor pathetic tablets...
DELL really sucks doing this.... its very much like an Apple scam ... mine is the 3741 which supposedly has 8gb but after the android system with system apps and all you have around 3.5gb free.
then you cant even move apps to EXT-SD so good luck installing many large apps.
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This is common for all tablets, no tablet or any android devices has the listed amount of space free.
16GB 32GB and so on don't have that much space free either.
As far as bounty for rom, posting here isn't going to get much exposure, unlikely this thread will even be seen by anyone that builds roms.
If there is enough people willing to fund this project, and buy a developer one of these tablets, then perhaps you can get a rom.
If it ever gets to that point, find a developer and ask him, how much would it take to get a custom rom.
Right now I can only think of one developer that is currently producing x86 cm12 roms. @nels83.
Seeing he is already making x86 cm12 roms for 3 x86 devices, he could add more if he had those devices.
@nels83 would be the person to contact once enough money is raised to buy him a tablet, or if someone has a spare tablet to give him.
@nels83 cm12 thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/development-10/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3100789
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What would be great is in the wait for a decent custom ROM such as Cyanogen or Paranoid, maybe someone out there could throw together a cleaned up, barebones custom ROM based off the current stock ROM but with all of the crapware thrown out and maybe some changes to improve the overall performance. This would be good for both 3830 and 3840 users and hopefully will make the wait for a CM or Paranoid (if it ever comes) a little shorter as atleast our tablets will run, decently.
The 3840 is in desperate need of a custom ROM. I see 3830 users also wanting it but to be honest, I'm sure they can stick it out with their 2GB of RAM. The 3840 is suffering dearly with only 1gig and is total hell running stock Android - so if there's a dev out there, priorities to the 3840 please. I've heard that the 3830 has decent performance.
I doubt you will ever seen a custom ROM for 3840.
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Please make your own thread for the 3840, this is a bounty thread for the 3830 only. There has to be a dev who is will to make a bit of money to create a working ROM.
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Please make your own thread for the 3840, this is a bounty thread for the 3830 only. There has to be a dev who is will to make a bit of money to create a working ROM.
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@nels83 is probably the only dev that could, also the 3830 kernel source has finally been released, it was a big set back waiting over a year for kernel source.
I used the kernel source to build myself a custom kernel and when time allows I will start back working on my asop rom for my 3830. I stopped working on it due to no source code.
My ROM will only be for my personal use, as I have no desire to continuously update a rom.
@nels83 is the best choice for building a community ROM, if he chooses to.
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@nels83 is probably the only dev that could, also the 3830 kernel source has finally been released, it was a big set back waiting over a year for kernel source.
I used the kernel source to build myself a custom kernel and when time allows I will start back working on my asop rom for my 3830. I stopped working on it due to no source code.
My ROM will only be for my personal use, as I have no desire to continuously update a rom.
@nels83 is the best choice for building a community ROM, if he chooses to.
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Who said you have to continuously update it? As long as most of the functions work to a decent standard and it is a solid ROM, then I am sure the community will be more than happy with it.
Also, 3840 users: http://forum.xda-developers.com/dell-venue/development/v8-3840-lollipop-rom-bounty-t3185076
I'm guessing it is out of the equation to be able to port a ROM from the venue 10 tree? Maybe a slimmed down version of their lollipop? I guess that maybe is aiming too high but I'm not sure.
Hey there,
see I know this is future talk, but is the Dell Tablet - which has amazing specs if you ask me - ever going to see the light of custom roms, maybe even Android M? Any idea? Honestly, I have no idea why this tablet is no big seller.
Regards
IlluX
Intel doesn't seem to attract devs for some reason. Does your 7840 have a locked bootloader?
fraser.dk said:
Intel doesn't seem to attract devs for some reason. Does your 7840 have a locked bootloader?
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The latest 5.1.0 update for the 7840 has an unlockable bootloader.
The Asus ZenFone 2 (Same Intel Z3580 as the Dell 7840) has TWRP and alpha builds of CyanogenMod.
Looks like the days of no-devs-for-Intel are coming to an end (maybe... I hope).
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The latest 5.1.0 update for the 7840 has an unlockable bootloader.
The Asus ZenFone 2 (Same Intel Z3580 as the Dell 7840) has TWRP and alpha builds of CyanogenMod.
Looks like the days of no-devs-for-Intel are coming to an end (maybe... I hope).
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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Yeah, for how nice looking it is, I really can't see why it wasn't more popular except because Dell did basically zero marketing for it. With a few well-timed ads and some product placement this thing could have been the new popular tablet.
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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After owning a n9, and messing with both the tab pro and the tab s and the shield, I don't think the v8 is that over priced. It's the best Android tablet on the market right now imo. The only downside is development and I can live with that because my v8 is purely for media consumption. If dell had a better reputation for updating and supporting their Android devices I think it would be more popular, a starting price of about $300 wouldn't hurt either.
So far I'm really impressed with this v8 and Dell's software support.
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Yeah, for how nice looking it is, I really can't see why it wasn't more popular except because Dell did basically zero marketing for it. With a few well-timed ads and some product placement this thing could have been the new popular tablet.
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The Dell tablet is visible here if I recall correctly
https://youtu.be/fKOK-DzrQQ8
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It's still early days for Intel + Android but the 7840 is overpriced and unpopular. Maybe the next Venue will get some attention.
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I agree, Intel and Dell need to be more forth coming if they ever plan on getting a device that devs will like to work with, Locked bootloaders, releasing old out of date tablets, then taking 6 months to update them, just isn't what most devs are looking for.
dell needs to stop dragging their feet and start popping out updates, intel needs to stop focusing on locking stuff down.
I doubt the 7840 will get much development, perhaps the next version dell releases, provided they release a current OS with the tablet, and quickly release the source code, and intel doesn't try to lock it down.
Price also plays a important factor, not many devs are willing to pay $400 for a kitkat device when other companies are releasing lollipop, dell needs to stop releasing out of date devices, then taking 6 months to update them.
I think had the tablet came out with lollipop priced around $200-$250 source code released, bootloader ready to be unlocked this tablet would have taken off, but it was over priced, came with kitkat, and locked down with no source code. Over time it was updated and so on by that time devs already got other devices.
The problem is that until the Zenfone2 came out no 3rd party was really actively working on porting to Intel, it wasn't until the past few months until cm even started porting for the nexus player.
There are a few groups now starting to port cm to a couple Intel devices but the problem is with a community so small the benefit is only for a few.
Having to rebase an existing device tree is alot of work so I'm hoping to consolidate the few active projects there are into a common core device tree with the hope that it will make it easier to port to new devices.