Hi,
I just rooted the phone successfully and want to put a custom recovery. I like SafeStrap but I do not know what would be safe to use on VRUFNG6 version. I searched the forums and did not come across anything specific. Anyone out there know what custom recoveries are safe to use on the VRUFNG6 version?
You shouldn't have taken that OTA.
No one will ever make a NG6 recovery. And Safestrap is the ONLY recovery that works with NC5+, and we are about to get the secured boot bypass with it. So since you took that OTA, you're ****ed.
Sorry
SnyderGuy said:
You shouldn't have taken that OTA.
No one will ever make a NG6 recovery. And Safestrap is the ONLY recovery that works with NC5+, and we are about to get the secured boot bypass with it. So since you took that OTA, you're ****ed.
Sorry
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I just reverted back to NC5. All is good.
Lol, that was fast!
I would suggest using safestrap 3.7.5 for now,
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Lol, that was fast!
I would suggest using safestrap 3.7.5 for now,
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One step ahead of you. Got it re rooted, working on that now.
ErisDev said:
One step ahead of you. Got it re rooted, working on that now.
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Good for you! Well, be careful until that bootloader bypass, we'll see how it goes from there
SnyderGuy said:
You shouldn't have taken that OTA.
No one will ever make a NG6 recovery. And Safestrap is the ONLY recovery that works with NC5+, and we are about to get the secured boot bypass with it. So since you took that OTA, you're ****ed.
Sorry
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whats this you say about a secure boot bypass? where'd you hear about it? I'd love to learn more!
therealdanbear said:
whats this you say about a secure boot bypass? where'd you hear about it? I'd love to learn more!
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Go to the thread "If we're serious about unlocking the bootloader"
They are going to use kexec and safestrap 3.8.2,
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Go to the thread "If we're serious about unlocking the bootloader"
They are going to use kexec and safestrap 3.8.2,
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Calm down for a minute, Surge and the guys over there are working on Kexec but is not functional in its current state. We just have to wait and see if any progress is made. ( or pitch on if you have kernel development experience)
Jraider44 said:
Calm down for a minute, Surge and the guys over there are working on Kexec but is not functional in its current state. We just have to wait and see if any progress is made. ( or pitch on if you have kernel development experience)
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gotch yah. I just got a little excited hahah
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Is this downgrading from ME7 to MDK possible? If so please guide me in the right direction.
Its not possible... Once you take the update theres no going back...
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So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
hondabomdc5 said:
So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
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Use the search button...this has been posted about a 1000 times...but yes you can root it but no custom recovery.
hondabomdc5 said:
So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
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You can root, but cant install custom recoveries or roms.
bfmetcalf said:
You can root, but cant install custom recoveries or roms.
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Thanks for being kind and thanks for the info. I did state that I was new and have been looking. I could have started a whole new thread but instead asked the question in here. I do want to install the Hyperdrive rom but since with ME7 you cant install roms...looks like i wont be rooting until somebody gets this figured out. Again, thanks for being cool and answering my question.
y can't we just odin back to mdk?
Stauf99 said:
y can't we just odin back to mdk?
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because of the bootloader will only allow signed packages to be installed on the phone and checks against older firmware and will not allow it. Unless you have the signed key you ain't flashing anything unless we find a workaround.
magneticzero said:
Use the search button...this has been posted about a 1000 times...but yes you can root it but no custom recovery.
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So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
This [email protected] sucks!
So, I'm stuck on ME7 as well (32GB S4, otherwise I'd just go down to the store and swap it, complaining about something -- seems they don't stock them at any local corporate stores).
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and we have OMAP-Flash, which is like a low-level PROM flashing tool from the Samsung R&D team, and I could fix even a DEAD, or bricked phone with that. Is there something like that here to get back the original bootloader? I cant believe we're stuck on this crap... How 'bout a 2nd-init like my Droid-x days, or something slick like SafeStrap on the RAZR family?
...Just thinkin' "out loud".
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So, I'm stuck on ME7 as well (32GB S4, otherwise I'd just go down to the store and swap it, complaining about something -- seems they don't stock them at any local corporate stores).
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and we have OMAP-Flash, which is like a low-level PROM flashing tool from the Samsung R&D team, and I could fix even a DEAD, or bricked phone with that. Is there something like that here to get back the original bootloader? I cant believe we're stuck on this crap... How 'bout a 2nd-init like my Droid-x days, or something slick like SafeStrap on the RAZR family?
...Just thinkin' "out loud".
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Short answer is 'no' - you're currently stuck with root as your best option. Hopefully this will change in the not-too-distant future.
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Yeah, this does suck.
Seems like we need someone to pick up the Dragonboard 8074 development kit to help us figure this out...even then, I'm sure Samsung has so many mods in there it'd be nuts to reverse engineer... Ugh, I'm so impatient! :silly:
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So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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Because there for people that didn't get robbed by Samsung and update through the evil over the air update lol
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So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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You're not quite understanding what a rom is and is not. There is no such thing as a rom for ME7. There are roms that use the ME7 base. They are flashable only by those who have the MDK bootloader. When a build number is listed for a rom, it is the build that the rom is based from.
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So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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The ROM's that the devs based on MDK have been updated with the ME7 code just like any good developer does. But the bootloader those users have is still from their MDK (original) install. Once you go ME7 you can never go back, downgrade, crossgrade or get beyond the bootloader, for now anyways. Someone will find a way.
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Does anybody know if anyone is building a root and recovery process for the VRUEMJ7 build. I got this S4 unrooted with the new build done....UGG
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Does anybody know if anyone is building a root and recovery process for the VRUEMJ7 build. I got this S4 unrooted with the new build done....UGG
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There are people working on root and @Hashcode is looking into getting Safestrap to work with it. But as to a recovery like twrp or CWM no dice on any build after mdk to install that.
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I think you are hosed if you are already on MJ7
Pardon if this is a noobish response, but can't we just use ODIN to force downgrade back to a build we can root and/or use custom recoveries?
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Pardon if this is a noobish response, but can't we just use ODIN to force downgrade back to a build we can root and/or use custom recoveries?
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The bootloader blocks being downgraded. Only way to downgrade would be to jtag from what I heard which us extremely dangerous to the average user
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The bootloader blocks being downgraded. Only way to downgrade would be to jtag from what I heard which us extremely dangerous to the average user
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There are no confirmed cases of anyone managing to downgrade even using JTAG. It's best to assume that you'll probably never be able to downgrade.
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There are no confirmed cases of anyone managing to downgrade even using JTAG. It's best to assume that you'll probably never be able to downgrade.
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Sure there is read the original thread about it from hellsdroid he commented he downgraded an me7 phone to mdk several times.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
hexitnow said:
Sure there is read the original thread about it from hellsdroid he commented he downgraded an me7 phone to mdk several times.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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Hmm. The basis of my statement:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
Has anyone ever heard more from h311sdr0id about his post (see here) to get more info about this "state" that allows you to flash MDK over ME7 in Odin
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No response. I know that h311sdr0id is "indisposed", of course. However, nobody has come forward to say that they've witnessed this. Thus my claim that it's unconfirmed.
It'd be great if JTAG was able to do this, but I'm rather skeptical given the fuses that get blown with each build to block going backwards. However, there is some hope as these are qfuses.
Ok, a little info on me. I have had an iPhone since 2007. I decided to buy a used G S4 to see if I would like it. So far I like it a lot but need help getting it just right.
I am trying to install custom roms on my device. I want to try CM.10 first. So far I have achieved root aaccess, and installed gooManager.
The problem is that when I install a custom recovery script so I can have a custom recovery the phone locks up. What could I be doing wrong? I am sure this has been covered a hundred times but there is so much info on here its overwhelming to someone new to android. Thanks to everyone for the great work and contributions s already made.
Try odin to flash!
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Ok, a little info on me. I have had an iPhone since 2007. I decided to buy a used G S4 to see if I would like it. So far I like it a lot but need help getting it just right.
I am trying to install custom roms on my device. I want to try CM.10 first. So far I have achieved root aaccess, and installed gooManager.
The problem is that when I install a custom recovery script so I can have a custom recovery the phone locks up. What could I be doing wrong? I am sure this has been covered a hundred times but there is so much info on here its overwhelming to someone new to android. Thanks to everyone for the great work and contributions s already made.
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when i installed my custom recovery i used cwm recovery (my preference) and used odin to flash it. its not as easy but its more reliable to me just look up a tutorial on how to flash custom recovery on odin. There are many vids on youtube
mylifeandroid said:
when i installed my custom recovery i used cwm recovery (my preference) and used odin to flash it. its not as easy but its more reliable to me just look up a tutorial on how to flash custom recovery on odin. There are many vids on youtube
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I watched all of the videos. Do I have a locked boot loader? Does that keep me from installing open recovery script? If so do I need a device with an older baseband in order to root, install custom recovery, and run custom roms?
I have a SCH-I545 running 4.3 with an mk2 baseband.
Yes, your bootloader is locked and currently there is no way to unlock it. Safestrap is your only option for ROMs now. Start with reading the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441
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How do I find an older gs4 with an unlocked bootloader? How will I know when I find one? What baseband version should I be looking for?
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How do I find an older gs4 with an unlocked bootloader? How will I know when I find one? What baseband version should I be looking for?
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Where your phone says mk2 the other will say mdk. . As far as finding one people sell them on ebay
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How do I find an older gs4 with an unlocked bootloader? How will I know when I find one? What baseband version should I be looking for?
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Check out www.swappa.com
People have em up for sale, just look for the last three letters of the build (or baseband I suppose) to be MDK. Anything newer than that is locked down.
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iPhone*convert said:
How do I find an older gs4 with an unlocked bootloader? How will I know when I find one? What baseband version should I be looking for?
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Information is easily available in these forums concerning bootloaders and rooting and recoveries....with you phone your only option is safestrap and just one or 2 roms are available..
look before you jump
Nobody posts the build number in their adds on ebay or that swappers site. I'm messaging them all individually haha. Lmfao why didn't I read about this more before buying this boot locked pos lol.
Me7 and mj7 are worthless right?
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Me7 and mj7 are worthless right?
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I will be honest this is the first phone that i have ever been satisfied with rooted debloated stock but I am very greatful my flashing itch is able to be somewhat scratched with safestrap. The above builds aren't worthless but I guess that all depends on your point of view and what your wanting to do with your device.
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Me7 and mj7 are worthless right?
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don't understand the statement?
the stock roms run extremely well and with root you can debloat pretty easily. S4 phone is a superior device to most anything else out there at this moment whether you mod it or not
Hey your in luck there is a guy selling his mdk s4 for 330 on the general thread.
just got cm11 to boot using safestrap on my vzw gs4 kinda excited to get it working without the kernel trip
anyone got a few ideas?? that might help me make it stabler???
edit i get android.phone has stopped?
Alpha_wolf said:
just got cm11 to boot using safestrap on my vzw gs4 kinda excited to get it working without the kernel trip
anyone got a few ideas?? that might help me make it stabler???
edit i get android.phone has stopped?
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yeah it will boot for some people but as far getting any connections stable it's been a no go. There's simply parts of the kernel that we can't touch without a bootloader unlock or exploit.
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yeah it will boot for some people but as far getting any connections stable it's been a no go. There's simply parts of the kernel that we can't touch without a bootloader unlock or exploit.
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that sucks is there and away to build a kernel that wont trip kernel lock?
Alpha_wolf said:
that sucks is there and away to build a kernel that wont trip kernel lock?
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Not that I know of, but check the boot loader thread in the general section, Surge recently opened up the door for kexec compatibility again, could be something to look into.
joshm.1219 said:
Not that I know of, but check the boot loader thread in the general section, Surge recently opened up the door for kexec compatibility again, could be something to look into.
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i got all excited too i miss cyanogenmod haha the phone came updated when i got it tho
Alpha_wolf said:
i got all excited too i miss cyanogenmod haha the phone came updated when i got it tho
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news lol
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news lol
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its ok hahaha
How did you get it to work? What version of android are you on? What did you do? Etc. Im pretty interested in doing this myself.
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its ok hahaha
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Might want to check out the thread Surge just posted in the android development section on insecure modules. Might help
I saw a post a while back about slimkat 4.2.2 running on s4 safestrap. What's the difference between the kernel in 4.2.2 ans 4.4.4 that is Causing the problems?
Cause I'm really anxious to get AOSP running on safestrap!
I'm helping my friend install CyanogenMod 12 on his S4 (jfltevzw). We've rooted it and we're currently doing a full backup through Safestrap in case anything happens. Once that's finished, I'm unsure as to what we should do. CyanogenMod's wiki has installation instructions for the Verizon S4, but it says in big bold letters to not attempt this if on a ROM newer than I545VRUAMDK. He's on the latest version that Samsung/Verizon have pushed out, which is I545VRUFNK1. Is there an alternate way to install CyanogenMod on top of the newer stock ROM, or is it not possible?
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I'm helping my friend install CyanogenMod 12 on his S4 (jfltevzw). We've rooted it and we're currently doing a full backup through Safestrap in case anything happens. Once that's finished, I'm unsure as to what we should do. CyanogenMod's wiki has installation instructions for the Verizon S4, but it says in big bold letters to not attempt this if on a ROM newer than I545VRUAMDK. He's on the latest version that Samsung/Verizon have pushed out, which is I545VRUFNK1. Is there an alternate way to install CyanogenMod on top of the newer stock ROM, or is it not possible?
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its not possible. ONLY mdk builds will work.
Raymondlikesroot said:
its not possible. ONLY mdk builds will work.
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Dang, so there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that can be done? The page says you can't downgrade, but is anything at all possible now that he's beyond the MDK build? He really wants to make the switch and is fine with doing a complete wipe or whatever is necessary.
EDIT: I've been trying to read up on the VZW S4 and why this isn't possible, but I don't quite get it. Reading other threads it seems like the reason is because the bootloader is locked, but that can't be the case if he was able to install Safestrap. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 where everything is incredibly simple, so I apologize for my ignorance. (I don't mean to say you're wrong or anything as I have no idea myself, I just don't understand why it doesn't work on newer ROMs.)
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Dang, so there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that can be done? The page says you can't downgrade, but is anything at all possible now that he's beyond the MDK build? He really wants to make the switch and is fine with doing a complete wipe or whatever is necessary.
EDIT: I've been trying to read up on the VZW S4 and why this isn't possible, but I don't quite get it. Reading other threads it seems like the reason is because the bootloader is locked, but that can't be the case if he was able to install Safestrap. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 where everything is incredibly simple, so I apologize for my ignorance. (I don't mean to say you're wrong or anything as I have no idea myself, I just don't understand why it doesn't work on newer ROMs.)
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The reason we use Safestrap as opposed to twrp is because the bootloader is locked.
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The reason we use Safestrap as opposed to twrp is because the bootloader is locked.
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Oh, okay. Really unfortunate that this isn't possible now. So he's just stuck with TouchWiz and can't do anything about it?
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Oh, okay. Really unfortunate that this isn't possible now. So he's just stuck with TouchWiz and can't do anything about it?
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Yep
Sent from my my Lollipopped S4
vaindil said:
Oh, okay. Really unfortunate that this isn't possible now. So he's just stuck with TouchWiz and can't do anything about it?
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you can install hyperdrive rom
its not lolipop but its worlds better then stock ...
also there is a chance of getting the 5.01 GPE edition rom running when Samsung releases the lolipop update for the vz s4
that would at least give us a working lolipop kernel to use with the gpe rombase
and hey you never know there could be a exploite in the lolipop rom/kernel that lets us get kexec working
Basically safestrap loads after the kernel but early enough to replace point to a different root for the system. So we can load what ever system we want... But are stuck with the kernel the phone booted. If the system is based on the stock kernel this is fine... But when it starts making calls to custom kernel stuff you will have trouble.
So Cyanogenmod only provides the GUI? I've installed CM on two B&N tablets and I've been asked to root a new Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4. I've assumed that, because it's new, it will have I545VRUFNK1 4.4.2. I rooted my VSG s3 years ago to 4.3 and there was no going back on that one. It looks like it's the same with VSG s4. So, if CM provides only the GUI, then a rooted VSG s4 can still access Google Apps? What is the concern with with TW based ROMs? Is it the recovery/backup feature or only being stuck with the VSG s4 GUI?
Raymondlikesroot said:
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This explains why I bricked my phone when I tried to flash CM12...
ryant35 said:
This explains why I bricked my phone when I tried to flash CM12...
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haha yeah, that could maybe potentially probably be the issue. Just maybe.
Couldn't you ODIN back to an older baseband version and then try to flash CM12?
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Couldn't you ODIN back to an older baseband version and then try to flash CM12?
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Nope, in order to get CM, you'll need to be on MDK. Samsung prevents downgrading.
btw. the baseband version doesn't matter much. Its the bootloader version that is the toughie.
Boo! I just picked up my S4 yesterday after a 5 month run of using Windows Phone so I'm trying to figure this phone out. I'm on NK1 and trying to figure out how to root now.
vaindil where did you find a VRUFNK1 compatible version of Safestrip?