I just upgraded from an S3 to an S4 (Verizon) today. My S3 was still running an unlocked bootloader, so I could flash to my heart's content. But being new to the S4, I'm not sure what, if any, limitations there are to flashing ROMs on NG6. I'm assuming that since it's Verizon, they locked down the S4 just like they did the S3. But any advice would be appreciated. I just rooted with the kernel downgrade/upgrade method, so I'm good to go in that respect.
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Are you on NC5? I would just flash the NG6 modem and see how it works for you. It's the best for me in acquiring a cleaner LTE signal.
LGtMgG2t said:
Are you on NC5? I would just flash the NG6 modem and see how it works for you. It's the best for me in acquiring a cleaner LTE signal.
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i'm on NG6. that's what it had when i got it (via Ebay). i downgraded the kernel to NC5 to root, but read in the same thread that keeping the NC5 kernel would cause instability. so i Odined back to NG6.
dkh7m said:
i'm on NG6. that's what it had when i got it (via Ebay). i downgraded the kernel to NC5 to root, but read in the same thread that keeping the NC5 kernel would cause instability. so i Odined back to NG6.
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I used the Odin NG6 image and it has been great. The modem gives me far better signal in the valley that I live in. Mine came with NC5 from Verizon a few months ago.
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Well I think I am going to loose my root access and update to the newest firmware and radios from Verizon. I don't do much with rooting and custom ROM's, etc anymore and I figure it is time to move onto the newest stuff. What is the best way to do this?
Currently I am on MDK stock firmware, but rooted and TWRP recovery.
Thanks guys.
CC268 said:
Well I think I am going to loose my root access and update to the newest firmware and radios from Verizon. I don't do much with rooting and custom ROM's, etc anymore and I figure it is time to move onto the newest stuff. What is the best way to do this?
Currently I am on MDK stock firmware, but rooted and TWRP recovery.
Thanks guys.
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Personally, I'd say don't do it. an MDK phone is becoming a rare commodity. You could put a custom rom on there that gives you the latest functionality of the newer releases without the bloat that comes from an OTA. Not all roms are full of fancy bells and whistles. I run Danvdh's GPE rom wich is pretty much just plain vanilla AOSP. I am running a newer radio (NC2) but other than ththe rom and radio, it's nothing fancy.
Hang on to the MDK as long as you can.
zeb carter said:
Personally, I'd say don't do it. an MDK phone is becoming a rare commodity. You could put a custom rom on there that gives you the latest functionality of the newer releases without the bloat that comes from an OTA. Not all roms are full of fancy bells and whistles. I run Danvdh's GPE rom wich is pretty much just plain vanilla AOSP. I am running a newer radio (NC2) but other than ththe rom and radio, it's nothing fancy.
Hang on to the MDK as long as you can.
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Honestly man...I always run into a problem at some point with custom ROM's....I just want a stock ROM that I would see if I updated to the newest firmware. I am on the oldest radio as well. Idk...just tired of the custom ROM stuff I guess...always stuff that doesn't work, etc...
CC268 said:
Honestly man...I always run into a problem at some point with custom ROM's....I just want a stock ROM that I would see if I updated to the newest firmware. I am on the oldest radio as well. Idk...just tired of the custom ROM stuff I guess...always stuff that doesn't work, etc...
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Danvdh puts a lot of work into his ports of the GPE roms and because it is a GPE rom, it is designed for our phones. For me, it is the ultimate stock rom with no additional carrier or OEM bloat. Just fully functioning Android and now at 4.4.4. You can't get much newer than that.
zeb carter said:
Danvdh puts a lot of work into his ports of the GPE roms and because it is a GPE rom, it is designed for our phones. For me, it is the ultimate stock rom with no additional carrier or OEM bloat. Just fully functioning Android and now at 4.4.4. You can't get much newer than that.
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Really don't want an AOSP ROM....
CC268 said:
Really don't want an AOSP ROM....
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You easily sell your MDK phone on swappa and buy a stock S4 and be money ahead
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Lol...I am just wondering how to get to the newest Stock TW ROM...whether it is on here or unrooting and updating.
For now I will just give the new Hyperdrive a try.
trade?
Dude, I've got a perfectly good and updated galaxy S4 (verizon) running the NC5 OTA update. I'll gladly pull out my mobo and send it to you if you send me yours =]
..just dont hurt it when taking the phone apart! =]
..ill even gladly pay for shipping (both ways) doooo iiiit
..also have a MI1 mobo
Haha...for now I am just back on Hyperdrive...always been good ROMs...
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Haha...for now I am just back on Hyperdrive...always been good ROMs...
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Hyperdrive that the one im using and i liked no problems at all..
I wish someone would offer just the bone stock newest update...that would be nice. Hyperdrive is nice, but it has a lot of extras I just don't need.
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I wish someone would offer just the bone stock newest update...that would be nice. Hyperdrive is nice, but it has a lot of extras I just don't need.
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You can always Odin nc5
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decaturbob said:
You can always Odin nc5
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I am very familiar with using ODIN to get back to stock like this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
But where would I get NC5? Would I lose root if I did that?
Flash jkruse ROM....its bone stock..
Or if ya want nc5 surges stone ROM..
Plenty of choices...u might regret losing ur mdk
Thanks a ton!
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Flash jkruse ROM....its bone stock..
Or if ya want nc5 surges stone ROM..
Plenty of choices...u might regret losing ur mdk
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Where is that Surge's Stone ROM you referred to?
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Where is that Surge's Stone ROM you referred to?
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Jkrusenrom is nf1 I think....its the newest..
Think its in general or development we section
cobra7361 said:
Jkrusenrom is nf1 I think....its the newest..
Think its in general or development we section
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Yea that is the international version...I figured I would just stick with the Verizon NC5 which is Verizon's newest.
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Yea that is the international version...I figured I would just stick with the Verizon NC5 which is Verizon's newest.
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Surges ROM is in his upgrade thread..
In OP..two different ones
Probably a noob question, but if you want root for titanium, wifi tether, xposed mods, etc...
Why is it so important to stay on MK2.
There's a few threads on downgrading from NC5 to MK2, and back up to keep the MK2 bootloader.
MK2 is not MDK, you can't run a custom recovery.
So what's so bad about taking the NC5 OTA and then just rooting? You can still run SS? Can yoi not flash a SS compatible ROM on NC5s bootloader?
Just trying to understand the difference. I know the benefit to MDK, just not anything else.
ymDroid said:
Probably a noob question, but if you want root for titanium, wifi tether, xposed mods, etc...
Why is it so important to stay on MK2.
There's a few threads on downgrading from NC5 to MK2, and back up to keep the MK2 bootloader.
MK2 is not MDK, you can't run a custom recovery.
So what's so bad about taking the NC5 OTA and then just rooting? You can still run SS? Can yoi not flash a SS compatible ROM on NC5s bootloader?
Just trying to understand the difference. I know the benefit to MDK, just not anything else.
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People hold out hope that someone may unlock the mk2 bootloader. To me it doesn't matter I'm on the NC2/NC5 bootloader myself.
Surge1223 said:
People hold out hope that someone may unlock the mk2 bootloader. To me it doesn't matter I'm on the NC2/NC5 bootloader myself.
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Are we pretty close to unlocking MK2? Should I hold out?
I used your method to upgrade to NC5, but the audio over wifi glitch has me on the verge of taking the OTA.
Im not really seeing any other way of fixing this issue except going stock?
Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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It really sucked having to do that. It was my first root ever and I soft bricked my phone three times because I knew less than nothing about rooting and whatnot. Three weeks later: Towelroot. Now its a party lol.
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Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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But there are more devs working for a bootloader exploit for the S5, than the S4.
And the S5, so if there is an exploit on the S5, it will probably transfer over to the S4 at the NC5 level since that firmware is on par with the S4s NC5.
So isn't it better to go to full NC5?
So I've been debating whether or not to upgrade to nc5 from mk2.
I know that towelroot would root nc5. I'm mainly concerned if there were any security patches or fixes in nc5 that would affect the ability to run kexec( if it gets running) on nc5.
I'm fairly confident that surge is working on building kexec on nc5 instead of mk2, but I'm just paranoid of pulling another mdk to me7 again
(This is really geared towards the " if we are serious about unlocking the bootloader thread" I just didn't want to ask questions there.)
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So I've been debating whether or not to upgrade to nc5 from mk2.
I know that towelroot would root nc5. I'm mainly concerned if there were any security patches or fixes in nc5 that would affect the ability to run kexec( if it gets running) on nc5.
I'm fairly confident that surge is working on building kexec on nc5 instead of mk2, but I'm just paranoid of pulling another mdk to me7 again
(This is really geared towards the " if we are serious about unlocking the bootloader thread" I just didn't want to ask questions there.)
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Just give it time and stay on mk2 for now. Once kexec comes out then just go to that bootloader.
I just finally upgraded to NC5 from MK2, tonight.
I kept the MK2 boot loader. I haven't yet fixed tether, but everything else is good.
Looking forward to 5.0. I just want to maintain flexibility as long as possible, with the MK2 platform.
Sorry, I know nothing about kexec.
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So if I downgraded my NC5 i545 to MK2 could I then install CyanogenMod?
Thanks!
Matthew2D said:
So if I downgraded my NC5 i545 to MK2 could I then install CyanogenMod?
Thanks!
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In a word - NO. Even going back to the MDK bootloader is not possible once you have taken the OTAs. And even then, MDK is still locked. The likelihood of the bootloader getting unlocked is slim and none. Kexec is the next choice and even its development has slowed as it is very hard to crack the bootloader issue.
As is often repeated, read the FAQs and search topics before posting.
To install anything other than a TW based rom, you need to be on the MDK bootloader. Once you have a newer bootloader than MDK, you are stuck with TW based roms and Safe Strap.
So I have my rooted NK1 4.4.2 S4 going happily now.
But it immediately tried to install the OTA update to go to lollipop.
I'm all for updates, but I've seen some scary things about going to OC1 and not being able to go back and such.
I'm okay with not being able to go back, as long as I can keep root.
I've tried the various roms and I prefer stock for some reason, so lollipop is okay with me. However I must have root. So, is there a safe way to update to lollipop from nk1 and keep root? Or obtain root on oc1 and just do a normal ota update with nothing special? Most guides seem to require you start from a rooted Nk4, which I'm unsure how to achieve.
Muniz_ri has the answer to go to OC1 while keeping root. THEN go to OF1. I'm not sure if you can skip OF1 with his method. @muniz_ri can we?
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Muniz_ri has the answer to go to OC1 while keeping root. THEN go to OF1. I'm not sure if you can skip OF1 with his method. @muniz_ri can we?
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Huh.. Didn't even know there was an OF1..
So what is the advantage to going to lollipop anyway? Other then the new OS. Better battery life, performance? My galaxy tab runs lollipop and its not that exciting..
Well, it just came out yesterday.
Other advantage is getting rid of some security bugs... Otherwise, you listed them all.