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My girlfriend just got a bell gs2 and she was having really poor battery life so i looked at it tonight and it seems that facebook won't stop using the cpu and will go from 3-10% cpu usage all the time. Is anybody else having this problem? Is there any solution?
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Gunner86 said:
My girlfriend just got a bell gs2 and she was having really poor battery life so i looked at it tonight and it seems that facebook won't stop using the cpu and will go from 3-10% cpu usage all the time. Is anybody else having this problem? Is there any solution?
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Unfortunately facebook for android sucks, try setting it to check for updates less often, and sign out of chat if not using it.
Gunner86 said:
My girlfriend just got a bell gs2 and she was having really poor battery life so i looked at it tonight and it seems that facebook won't stop using the cpu and will go from 3-10% cpu usage all the time. Is anybody else having this problem? Is there any solution?
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If you're talkin bout the official facebook app then you are right. Also had this experience. Was checking thru system panel then i noticed the fb app was consuming cpu usage while running in background with sync off.. That fb app is getting glitchy sometimes. I uninstalled it!
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I had similar issues with the official Facebook app. I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) which is a free download from Market. You can set it to auto-kill apps at regular intervals (in my case, every hour). So the FB app gets killed every now and then, saving whatever battery can be saved..
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I had similar issues with the official Facebook app. I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) which is a free download from Market. You can set it to auto-kill apps at regular intervals (in my case, every hour). So the FB app gets killed every now and then, saving whatever battery can be saved..
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ATK'ers cause more problems than they help, as every time something is killed, the phone wakes up, kills something, then the app has to be reloaded.
Its highly recommended not to use them.
veyka said:
ATK'ers cause more problems than they help, as every time something is killed, the phone wakes up, kills something, then the app has to be reloaded.
Its highly recommended not to use them.
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Hmmm... You're probably right. It was near impossible to make do without it on the lower-memory SGS1 though...
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Hmmm... You're probably right. It was near impossible to make do without it on the lower-memory SGS1 though...
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Maybe pre gingerbread, but as far as I know 2.3.x has always had a LMK (low memory killer) built in, so it does the same thing as a ATK, but its "smart" and doesn't hurt the battery like a ATK does.
I kno this is a super bump but this is the closest thread i could find to my issue...
After facebook recently updating the app i noticed, in the stock application manager on my LG P930, it using about 58% and even spikeing up to 88% CPU usage and using over 40.0 MBs of my RAM i have to stop the app in the application manager for it to stop....
Heres a pic for proof i guess:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1035642&stc=1&d=1335922294
So my actual question is can this harm the hardware to my phone if i dont stop it running after every use? And is there maybe a fix to get it to stop using so much?
i got fb on both sgs1 an sgs2 yes many say it consumes power but y dosnt mine do tht its loggd in 24hrs........cheerz
Facebook for Android sucks really.. I noticed this whole CPU trashing started when they upgraded Facebook some time ago to what is the "current" skin for the past 4-5 months or so. Suddenly, everytime I launch Facebook, when I go back to my home screen it stays running...
Obviously I have the notifications and synch refresh set to never..
Watchdog complains about it...
Connecting via ADB and issuing top shows the katana process eating 20% cpu or more..
Using a terminal app on the phone and issuing top reveals the same thing...
So I just use Watchdog to kill Facebook everytime I'm done using it, or I use the sluggish browser version that doesn't suffer from this cause it runs in the browser
Upgrade after upgrade they can't seem to fix this and it's symptomatic.. not random! At least not on my Nexus S running the latest ICS 4.0.4.
Would be interesting if via ADB we could check the threads of the facebook process and see what's running...
What would be even better would be some sort of channel to complain about this to Facebook.. I mentioned this in my review on the Play store but I don't think anyone cares about what's written there (at least none from the Facebook development team..)
My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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Did you set System Tuner Pro back to default before uninstalling?
How would i do that? I just reinstalled it and i dont see any options like that...
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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he's talking about the built in one
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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No, it doesn't.
My problem is that the stock task manger kills my alarm clock & battery widget. Which I really need....
Ever since I have swtiched to Advanced Task Manger and I honestly love it over the stock one. I even set it to auto kill when I turn off the screen.
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he's talking about the built in one
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
FlukiestEmperor said:
So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Some people just think their logic is law and their needs are the same as everybody. I use task manager for several things. Many that the previous poster mentioned and others. I'm sorry open but I can offer no assistance as I've never wandered past the stock task manager. But I will follow this thread as I am interested in the functions you mentioned.
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
lowspeed said:
How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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If you're not going to help, then don't bother posting. Not everyone likes to ignore problems
Seeing as this is a developers forum, how about we all work together and find an actual solution to the problem, instead of these mickey mouse suggestions?
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
roperband said:
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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I am wondering this as well this phone just closes down all kinds of apps. I know android closes apps when it needs the space but this phones is constantly closing my apps I want to keep open.
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I've been happily running Snapdragon Battery Guru, it has definitely saved me some juice!
Just rooted, so I'm giving Greenify a try. Running both apps at the moment.
Does anyone have experience running Greenify vs. Battery Guru vs. running both?
I used both. Greenify is great for battery savings
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No idea how to use greenify.
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No idea how to use greenify.
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Just hit the add icon at the top right, hit "more apps" towards the bottom and start selecting what ones you want hibernated.
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Yeah that sounds simple except for a lot of the apps they suggest to freeze I want notifications from so what good does it do? lol
randy hoopes said:
Yeah that sounds simple except for a lot of the apps they suggest to freeze I want notifications from so what good does it do? lol
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Well that's the whole point of the app. It disables that background syncing to reduce battery drain.
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Doesn't Snapdragon Battery Guru NEED GPS on to work?
I love Greenify, takes some getting used to but works
Stauf99 said:
Doesn't Snapdragon Battery Guru NEED GPS on to work?
I love Greenify, takes some getting used to but works
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It does need a location service to be on in order to function. I believe it needs network location instead of standalone GPS.
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I've liked greenify. It foes require root, unlike battery guru. But I've found running both is pointless. Greenify enabled catches the apps before battery guru and it shows in the "meter" of effectiveness in that app.
I've tried nearly everything I can think of and nothing stops this battery from killing itself very fast. Half a day on a charge is rediculous. I don't know what else to do.
immortal7792 said:
I've tried nearly everything I can think of and nothing stops this battery from killing itself very fast. Half a day on a charge is rediculous. I don't know what else to do.
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First of all what do you have turned on (Bluetooth, GPS, NFC, etc.). Second, what applications are you using to help/find battery issues (Greenify, Wake Lock Detector, Tasker, etc.). Without this information it's hard to tell you what is wrong.
Personally, I have bluetooth on all the time connected to my G Watch. Location is set to Battery Saver. I have Greenify installed and hibernating apps when the screen is turned off and using Tasker to control CPU speeds. My phone has been off the charger for about 7 hours and I am at about 88% battery left.
immortal7792 said:
I've tried nearly everything I can think of and nothing stops this battery from killing itself very fast. Half a day on a charge is rediculous. I don't know what else to do.
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Grab us the dump file from Better Battery Stats and we could help you out more. I get great battery life with my G3.
I use Greenify ,Lux , BT on most the time as well as Location. Typically my brightness is around 70% -80% as well.
I don't have all sorts of useless apps and widgets though, only 1 clock widget on the lock screen . and if I don't need an app I simply uninstall it....
Anyways grab that dump file from BBS if you'd like some help.
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Grab us the dump file from Better Battery Stats and we could help you out more. I get great battery life with my G3.
I use Greenify ,Lux , BT on most the time as well as Location. Typically my brightness is around 70% -80% as well.
I don't have all sorts of useless apps and widgets though, only 1 clock widget on the lock screen . and if I don't need an app I simply uninstall it....
Anyways grab that dump file from BBS if you'd like some help.
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I use GSAM battery monitor can I dump through that app? I use greenify, keep brightness low, turn off what I can and it's still awful
immortal7792 said:
I use GSAM battery monitor can I dump through that app? I use greenify, keep brightness low, turn off what I can and it's still awful
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You could I suppose however I myself don't use that app. I don't use any of the GSam apps.
Grab BBS here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868
Install it and enable root features in the advanced tab and then let it run for a little while. Then on the main screen you'll see a "share" button and dump file will be already highlighted. Select that and it'll put the file on the root of your SDCard.
If you could upload that it will be more helpful. BBS is more useful in my opinion and gives better details than GSam.
Once you get used to using it.... You'll wonder why you weren't using it in the first place
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Mistertac said:
You could I suppose however I myself don't use that app. I don't use any of the GSam apps.
Grab BBS here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868
Install it and enable root features in the advanced tab and then let it run for a little while. Then on the main screen you'll see a "share" button and dump file will be already highlighted. Select that and it'll put the file on the root of your SDCard.
If you could upload that it will be more helpful. BBS is more useful in my opinion and gives better details than GSam.
Once you get used to using it.... You'll wonder why you weren't using it in the first place
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Got it will report back
Mistertac said:
You could I suppose however I myself don't use that app. I don't use any of the GSam apps.
Grab BBS here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868
Install it and enable root features in the advanced tab and then let it run for a little while. Then on the main screen you'll see a "share" button and dump file will be already highlighted. Select that and it'll put the file on the root of your SDCard.
If you could upload that it will be more helpful. BBS is more useful in my opinion and gives better details than GSam.
Once you get used to using it.... You'll wonder why you weren't using it in the first place
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Here's the file I hope it tells something
I was having the same issue. No matter what I did it just sucked and I'm no noob. I just did a flash back to stock using the 10b tot file and set everything back up and now it's great. Easily lasting twice as long. I also didn't reroot yet.
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Here's the file I hope it tells something
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It's showing your phone was awake about 1.5 hours more than your screen on time.
msm_tsens_lock (): 4 h 20 m 38 s (15638 s)
Kept your phone awake for over 4 hours. Your other various wake locks don't look to out of control to me, you have quite a few that will add up but I don't see any rogue apps really.
msm_tsens_lock
Is to do with Thermal Sensor. My G3 has never had that kernel wake lock so I'm not 100% that's it's normal or not, could very well be?!
What I'd suggest though anyways is to clear your Caches and Dalvic ( can use an app from Store to do this easily ) then give your phone a day or two before judging battery life so the Caches can rebuild.
And reboot your phone once a day. Also what I've been doing lately is I have my phone set up so that when I " knock off" it uses Greenify to force Hibernation of my apps then locks the phone.
That can be done through any launcher that supports gestures , I use Nova.
If nothing seems to work, factory reset should do it, though i know that's annoying.
I'll keep looking at your dump file just to see if i missed anything, I've been looking through a few of them and my eyes hurt[emoji12]
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It's showing your phone was awake about 1.5 hours more than your screen on time.
msm_tsens_lock (): 4 h 20 m 38 s (15638 s)
Kept your phone awake for over 4 hours. Your other various wake locks don't look to out of control to me, you have quite a few that will add up but I don't see any rogue apps really.
msm_tsens_lock
Is to do with Thermal Sensor. My G3 has never had that kernel wake lock so I'm not 100% that's it's normal or not, could very well be?!
What I'd suggest though anyways is to clear your Caches and Dalvic ( can use an app from Store to do this easily ) then give your phone a day or two before judging battery life so the Caches can rebuild.
And reboot your phone once a day. Also what I've been doing lately is I have my phone set up so that when I " knock off" it uses Greenify to force Hibernation of my apps then locks the phone.
That can be done through any launcher that supports gestures , I use Nova.
If nothing seems to work, factory reset should do it, though i know that's annoying.
I'll keep looking at your dump file just to see if i missed anything, I've been looking through a few of them and my eyes hurt[emoji12]
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Haha thanks dude I appreciate it. I'm gonna try doing that and seeing what happens.
it is just a junk phone man
oneandroidnut said:
it is just a junk phone man
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I've seen your posts over and over and I think you should consider the possibility that you are unhappy with your life, not with your phones. Technology will never cure depression.
hawkswind1 said:
I've seen your posts over and over and I think you should consider the possibility that you are unhappy with your life, not with your phones. Technology will never cure depression.
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why you say that? my note 3 could smoke this thing
oneandroidnut said:
why you say that? my note 3 could smoke this thing
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LOL
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LOL
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True story bro
hello guys im having battery draining, that Phone app is killing my battery, im not even using it ?, anyone knows how to fix it ? , im using s3 (shv-e210s) on CM 11 by arter ?!
Xhemal1325 said:
hello guys im having battery draining, that Phone app is killing my battery, im not even using it ?, anyone knows how to fix it ? , im using s3 (shv-e210s) on CM 11 by arter ?!
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I'm not sure about the phone app, but you should try disabling some Google services with disable service or use Greenify donation edition to hibernate play services.
ArkThompson said:
I'm not sure about the phone app, but you should try disabling some Google services with disable service or use Greenify donation edition to hibernate play services.
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there is no problem with google play services, the phone app stays awake all time, even i dont use it,, the device dont get to deep sleep because of that ?
Any help ?
The mobile data and screen brightness are the biggest drainer of battery life by a mile.
I would only turn the brightness up on my phone when i use it then turn it down later.
You can restrict background data, this one is the holy grail in battery conservation. Unless you specify otherwise a lot of the apps that you have on your phone like Facebook Twitter and many many more will constantly try to connect to their servers to look if there is anything new to report. To do this hit you settings, Connections, Data usage, menu, then put a tick in Restrict background data to force your phone to stop syncing continuously.
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Xhemal1325 said:
hello guys im having battery draining, that Phone app is killing my battery, im not even using it ?, anyone knows how to fix it ? , im using s3 (shv-e210s) on CM 11 by arter ?!
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Screenshots are useless and not helpful, make your way over to the betterbatterystats thread and follow the op.
Darke5tShad0w said:
Screenshots are useless and not helpful, make your way over to the betterbatterystats thread and follow the op.
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sorry, i just swiched to stock, cant use CM11 , during the night no deep sleep, the phone app was over 70% , that drained battery fast :crying:
Xhemal1325 said:
sorry, i just swiched to stock, cant use CM11 , during the night no deep sleep, the phone app was over 70% , that drained battery fast :crying:
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Using that app and finding the cause is a much better option than just returning to stock because it works.
Darke5tShad0w said:
Using that app and finding the cause is a much better option than just returning to stock because it works.
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after a clean install, i got the same problem, i think its a dev mistake, im using CM 11 arter97, on my shv-e210s
battery drain
Xhemal1325 said:
after a clean install, i got the same problem, i think its a dev mistake, im using CM 11 arter97, on my shv-e210s
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I suggest you to install one or both of below free apps to monitor what is draining the battery:
- Battery Doctor(Battery Saver)
- GSam Battery Monitor
With the first one you can also set the option 'CPU Management=YES' so the phone can deep sleep
One the app is identify you can hibernate it to avoid running in background with the app 'Greenify'
Thanks.
JavierMz said:
I suggest you to install one or both of below free apps to monitor what is draining the battery:
- Battery Doctor(Battery Saver)
- GSam Battery Monitor
With the first one you can also set the option 'CPU Management=YES' so the phone can deep sleep
One the app is identify you can hibernate it to avoid running in background with the app 'Greenify'
Thanks.
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lol, i wont hibernate the phone app, and thers nothing to do with other apps, after a fresh install phone app is there runing and draining battery, even i have not touched it !! lol, the dev who made it working did something wrong !
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lol, i wont hibernate the phone app, and thers nothing to do with other apps, after a fresh install phone app is there runing and draining battery, even i have not touched it !! lol, the dev who made it working did something wrong !
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So, it is better to test another ROM.
What about Slimrom? have you tested it?
JavierMz said:
So, it is better to test another ROM. ,
What about Slimrom? have you tested it?
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only arter made AOSP working for shv-e210s , i tryed them, all the same, the device stay 200 mhz ,no deep sleep, because of phone app, i will bring tomorrow a better screenshot, so u can see battery during the night
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only arter made AOSP working for shv-e210s , i tryed them, all the same, the device stay 200 mhz ,no deep sleep, because of phone app, i will bring tomorrow a better screenshot, so u can see battery during the night
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Strange, maybe and issue with that specific S3 model.
I have tested CM, Slimkat, C-ROM, Carbon, Omegarom on S3 GT-I9300 and I haven´t had that issue,
battery life is better than the stock rom.
Maybe you can try to run a cleaning kernel script before flashing if not done yet.
Use the betterbatterystats app i mentioned before to find out whats causing the phone app to stay awake.
Its all good to say the phone app is keeping it awake but you need to find the trigger or service that is doing so. The screen shots you are providing are basic and do not provide this, you need a log from this app.