Hello everyone, first of all thanks any help would be greatly appreciated.
I recently got this. iBall Q9703 (cant use links yet sry iball.co.in/Product/Q9703/474) tablet, it has a badly ported rom and noticeable lag. Now I own a few mainstream devices with custom roms and this lag is not acceptable.
The chipset is Allwinner A31 which supports JB 4.2 and up(acc to wiki). Im assuming the lag is cause the stock is running badly built jb 4.1
I know that most Indian(and other) brand tablets are actually re-branded clones of Chinese tablets, so i went searching and found this Allview Alldro 3 speed quad. Its the EXACT same tablet from Romania.
I tried finding custom roms for it (or even CWM recovery ) but failed. Many suggested ONDA tablet roms but some ppl flashed it and wireless services stopped working. So got fed up and decided to handle things by myself.
I have a few questions so plz bear with me. (BTW I know there are detailed guides for most of the questions but I just need some direction)
( note: current rom was pre-rooted out of the box )
1) Is there any way using just root to speed up the rom? (tried launchers, removing apps, task killers)
2) Should I be able to compile and use CWM for this device or any other recovery.(None of them officially support the device)
3) Would I be able to take a backup image of the current stock rom inc. kernel(as a zip) on my system and flash it using recovery in case i screw anything up?
4) Would I be able to create a rom from scratch by extracting and using the current kernel and base-band? If so can I use jb4.2? (current is 4.1)
If i flash the rom and something goes wrong, i assume i can boot into recovery and flash the backup?
5) Would I be able to use a CWM intended for ONDA tabelt since its both based on allwinner a31?
6) Can i use a jb 4.1 kernel with jb4.2?
Any advice would be helpful. Thanks
Iball q9703
i also have the same problem and yea it also has serious heating problems
Please excuse my lack of knowledge. I would like to know if I can up grade my 10.1 tab GT-7510 running 4.04 to a higher Androind operating system.
ricmck said:
Please excuse my lack of knowledge. I would like to know if I can up grade my 10.1 tab GT-7510 running 4.04 to a higher Androind operating system.
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Sure you can! ☺
You can run almost any version you want. I'm running kitkat 4.4.4 (the very latest version) on it now.
But you'll have to root it first and perhaps change the bootloader (I did) and install a custom recovery. After all this you can flash almost any ROM you want.
Have fun and Always make a backup!
Sent from my GT-P7510 running KK 4.4.4 nameless
OK Great, can you point me to where to get the instructions to do the rooting, change the bootloader, install the custom recovery and then the 4.44 upgrade?
I am asking about the rooting because I have see many different suggestions. It there a thread that describes each one of these processes?
Thanks
Rick McK
Olivier V said:
Sure you can! ☺
You can run almost any version you want. I'm running kitkat 4.4.4 (the very latest version) on it now.
But you'll have to root it first and perhaps change the bootloader (I did) and install a custom recovery. After all this you can flash almost any ROM you want.
Have fun and Always make a backup!
Sent from my GT-P7510 running KK 4.4.4 nameless
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ricmck said:
OK Great, can you point me to where to get the instructions to do the rooting, change the bootloader, install the custom recovery and then the 4.44 upgrade?
I am asking about the rooting because I have see many different suggestions. It there a thread that describes each one of these processes?
Thanks
Rick McK
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029664
Guide for rooting GT-P7510 with Stock 4.0.4 ROM
This is the classic way with all the steps explained.
Sent from my Nexus 7 2013
Getting your tablet 'upgraded'
ricmck said:
OK Great, can you point me to where to get the instructions to do the rooting, change the bootloader, install the custom recovery and then the 4.44 upgrade?
I am asking about the rooting because I have see many different suggestions. It there a thread that describes each one of these processes?
Thanks
Rick McK
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It is ever so simple to upgrade your tablet to CM10.1, look at http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_p4wifi (I assume it is a P7510 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 WiFi version) to get the quick and easy method of getting Android 4.2.2 on your tablet from a very stable and reliable Custom ROM, superuser and more built-in by default. If ever it does not work for you, then you can always revert to Stock 4.0.4 from Samsung (see sammobile.com for downloads of stock recovery images. You will need to register for free to be able to download).
Hope this is the quick and easy way for you. If you want to go to KitKat 4.4.4, then the nameless (official nightly build) ROM at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716016 is where you want to start out. Please keep in mind that this release may still have some issues for the Tab, as it still is under development.
Your choice. But no need to root beforehand if you want to load a custom ROM, you only need a recovery manager (either CWM or TWRP, all to personal taste) loaded to continue. Mostly, just to make sure, do the bootloader-thing beforehand as the default Samsung bootloader hates both CMW and TWRP recovery mode, and you could end up with the infamous rolling screen problem.
My suggestion is to start with CM10.1 as that is almost a walk in the park, and the steps are both easy to follow and [almost] never fail.
Hope this makes it a bit clearer. Best of luck in your endeavours to get the stock bloatware off your tablet...
THANK YOU for the complete instructions. this is GREAT. I have several final questions before I try it.
My Tab has Kernal# 3.1.10 [email protected] - 116#2 SMPT PREEMPT Tues Aug 7 19:16:14 KST 2012
Is this process still OK and valid?
I want to be sure I fully understand the process:
1: I install a new bootLoader. WHERE is the code-file, and what is the process?
2: Do the Odlin3 method- Windows (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_p4wifi)
3: I perform the next step: "Installing CyanogenMod from recovery"
4: where do I find the "required Google Apps" as noted in the above "step three".
5: HOW to find and install 4.2.2, or what ever is the most stable OS for this Tab.
Is this process correct? If no please clarify
Sorry for all the "dumb" basic questions. ;(
Thanks
Rick McK
Just_Another_N00b said:
It is ever so simple to upgrade your tablet to CM10.1, look at http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_p4wifi (I assume it is a P7510 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 WiFi version) to get the quick and easy method of getting Android 4.2.2 on your tablet from a very stable and reliable Custom ROM, superuser and more built-in by default. If ever it does not work for you, then you can always revert to Stock 4.0.4 from Samsung (see sammobile.com for downloads of stock recovery images. You will need to register for free to be able to download).
Hope this is the quick and easy way for you. If you want to go to KitKat 4.4.4, then the nameless (official nightly build) ROM at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716016 is where you want to start out. Please keep in mind that this release may still have some issues for the Tab, as it still is under development.
Your choice. But no need to root beforehand if you want to load a custom ROM, you only need a recovery manager (either CWM or TWRP, all to personal taste) loaded to continue. Mostly, just to make sure, do the bootloader-thing beforehand as the default Samsung bootloader hates both CMW and TWRP recovery mode, and you could end up with the infamous rolling screen problem.
My suggestion is to start with CM10.1 as that is almost a walk in the park, and the steps are both easy to follow and [almost] never fail.
Hope this makes it a bit clearer. Best of luck in your endeavours to get the stock bloatware off your tablet...
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ricmck said:
THANK YOU for the complete instructions. this is GREAT. I have several final questions before I try it.
My Tab has Kernal# 3.1.10 [email protected] - 116#2 SMPT PREEMPT Tues Aug 7 19:16:14 KST 2012
Is this process still OK and valid?
I want to be sure I fully understand the process:
1: I install a new bootLoader. WHERE is the code-file, and what is the process?
2: Do the Odlin3 method- Windows (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_p4wifi)
3: I perform the next step: "Installing CyanogenMod from recovery"
4: where do I find the "required Google Apps" as noted in the above "step three".
5: HOW to find and install 4.2.2, or what ever is the most stable OS for this Tab.
Is this process correct? If no please clarify
Sorry for all the "dumb" basic questions. ;(
Thanks
Rick McK
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The process is defined for the p4wifi (i.e. P7510 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, the original Samsung WiFi only, not 3G).
If you have a tab2/tab3/note etc, then you need to navigate a bit there to find your machine. But most of the process is the same, just other binaries/ROM.
The bootloader download is mentioned in the Odin3 method (windows only) of this documentation, within step 1: download pershoots recovery package. Steps 2 to 8 there explain exactly how to start up odin, get your tablet into download mode and transfer the bootloader. Step 10 explains that your have to follow the same steps 2 to 8 to get the recovery tool installed on your tablet.
For the p4wifi the CM10.1 stable roms can be found at: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p4wifi
The applicable google apps can be downloaded from http://goo.im/gapps , where you have to load the one, related to the flavour. In your case the CM10.1, one (3rd line at this moment) of 20130812.
PLEASE NOTE: If your tablet is not the P7510 (Wifi), but, for example the P7500 (3G), then you might need a different bootloader, recovery mod and CM10.1
CM10.1 is 4.2.2, and has root built-in by default. This 4.2.2 also allows you to create more 'users' on the tablet, do all kinds of nice things, and can be finetuned to improve performance (like overclocking). All built-in by default.
Happy Hunting!
Hey, and don't apologise for asking dumb questions, we all started out asking questions, and this forum is really there to get people started on the path of getting the most out of their tablets. Keep on asking, and there is always somebody out there to help you out if you get stuck.
One advise: get the exact model-number of your tablet (build) and register at sammobile to get a plain stock recovery image, so you can always get back to the default setup, and not lose hope when your tablet gets 'bricked'. We have more than enough expensive doorstoppers in the world to need to add one more. Sammobile gives you the recovery image, base on model and country. These stock recovery images are about 450 MB, and can be restored easily with your big friend Odin (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142268).
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for clarifying my questions and process. In my prior life I was a process engineer (semiconductors, and hydrogen fuel cells). Thus I like clear instructions. I also see now some of the challenges the web and forums like this one present, because links go dead, and new process and data are constantly being created. Thus the "process" is always in flux.
I think I can now go and try this.
Thanks
Rick McK
Just_Another_N00b said:
The process is defined for the p4wifi (i.e. P7510 Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, the original Samsung WiFi only, not 3G).
If you have a tab2/tab3/note etc, then you need to navigate a bit there to find your machine. But most of the process is the same, just other binaries/ROM.
The bootloader download is mentioned in the Odin3 method (windows only) of this documentation, within step 1: download pershoots recovery package. Steps 2 to 8 there explain exactly how to start up odin, get your tablet into download mode and transfer the bootloader. Step 10 explains that your have to follow the same steps 2 to 8 to get the recovery tool installed on your tablet.
For the p4wifi the CM10.1 stable roms can be found at: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p4wifi
The applicable google apps can be downloaded from http://goo.im/gapps , where you have to load the one, related to the flavour. In your case the CM10.1, one (3rd line at this moment) of 20130812.
PLEASE NOTE: If your tablet is not the P7510 (Wifi), but, for example the P7500 (3G), then you might need a different bootloader, recovery mod and CM10.1
CM10.1 is 4.2.2, and has root built-in by default. This 4.2.2 also allows you to create more 'users' on the tablet, do all kinds of nice things, and can be finetuned to improve performance (like overclocking). All built-in by default.
Happy Hunting!
Hey, and don't apologise for asking dumb questions, we all started out asking questions, and this forum is really there to get people started on the path of getting the most out of their tablets. Keep on asking, and there is always somebody out there to help you out if you get stuck.
One advise: get the exact model-number of your tablet (build) and register at sammobile to get a plain stock recovery image, so you can always get back to the default setup, and not lose hope when your tablet gets 'bricked'. We have more than enough expensive doorstoppers in the world to need to add one more. Sammobile gives you the recovery image, base on model and country. These stock recovery images are about 450 MB, and can be restored easily with your big friend Odin (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142268).
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ricmck said:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for clarifying my questions and process. In my prior life I was a process engineer (semiconductors, and hydrogen fuel cells). Thus I like clear instructions. I also see now some of the challenges the web and forums like this one present, because links go dead, and new process and data are constantly being created. Thus the "process" is always in flux.
I think I can now go and try this.
Thanks
Rick McK
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You are welcome. I myself have been a Software Engineer since the early seventies of the 20th century (40+ years of IT), and started out as Computer Operator loading punchcards and papertape into old IBM and UNIVAC computers. The world has changed dramatically since then. Not all good though...
Good luck, and always peruse XDA to get answers to your questions. Sometimes you have to trudge through a lot of mess, but the diamonds are there to find.And ask, ask, ask...
Hello Guys,
I have Kindle fire HDX 8.9" (14.3.2.3) rooted and safetrap install. I want to install Apollo Gapps ROM v1.3 by @ggow. he mentioned that Gapps ROM v1.3 is based on 14.3.2.4. As a result I want to update to 14.3.2.4 and do all the rooting and stuff.
I was wondering if the 14.3.2.4 still the latest version or not. if it is the lastest version, I just need to enable to update and update the whole thing. if it is not the latest version, Correct me if I am wrong, I can copy the 14.3.2.4 bin file to internal storage and then hit the check for update.
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Arashkage said:
Hello Guys,
I have Kindle fire HDX 8.9" (14.3.2.3) rooted and safetrap install. I want to install Apollo Gapps ROM v1.3 by @ggow. he mentioned that Gapps ROM v1.3 is based on 14.3.2.4. As a result I want to update to 14.3.2.4 and do all the rooting and stuff.
I was wondering if the 14.3.2.4 still the latest version or not. if it is the lastest version, I just need to enable to update and update the whole thing. if it is not the latest version, Correct me if I am wrong, I can copy the 14.3.2.4 bin file to internal storage and then hit the check for update.
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Well if you did read any of the thread I believe it is mentioned in there it also works on your base no need to update. (See Post #77 for confirmation http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760542 )And from what I've read in several places it's possible if you update to the latest firmware you could be locked out of their future bootloader unlock. Nothing personal but I truly don't understand why folks don't read the thread on the modifications they wish to do before starting their own thread. While I'm sure that you are quite familiar with XDA you may not be so familiar to this device there are several threads that are sticky in the general and the troubleshooting section that have useful information like to let you know that bootloader is locked tight for now and we still do not have any fastboot capabilities so if you screw up your device there is no easy rescue if any. Statement in fact you'll see dozens of threads started in both of those sections with brick devices due to lack of research and lack of comprehension and the ability to properly follow directions they are ultimately end up calling Amazon for refurbished devices. My advice ionly do your own homework before diving in. I have seen very few devices rescued from a brick state . This device is no way similar to any Nexus device ever at least at this time.Good luck
Hi everybody,
just unpacked my kindle hdx 7" and it has fireware 13.3.1.0
i have been reading a lot of threads and posts but still have some questions..
as soon as cm11 is completely stable and everything works i want to use it because of android 4.4 but as it might take some time till then i was thinking of getting the nexus rom first and switch later.
till now i just rooted some of my divices so im new to roms and want to have as less hassle as possible
right now i would need safestrap for the nexus rom but ggow was talking about TWRP compatibility with the next version so i think it would be best to wait and then get twrp because it is also necessary for cm11..
first of all i would root after this instruction
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683 yes? and does it work with .3.1.0?
then for the current nexus rom i would need safstrap and 13.3.2.4 but how would i get 3.2.4?
does maybe someone have a link i couldnt find anything about it..
but if i want nexus rom >2.0.2 or cm11 i would just need twrp which i could install with no problems with my firmware?
did i miss any step?
sorry for the long text just dont want to brick my kindle
thanks!
Fee