Help me understand settings for Sony z3 native mail and google - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Setup:
Stock Z3
I use the native mail app with active synch for work
I have a gmail account also in the native mail app
Both of these are configured in the "mail" settings and operate fine
Under the "google" settings I have pretty much everything turned on for sync but have turned off the gmail sync which I would think would conflict?
The issue is that if I get a gmail message, and read it in the native mail app, the next time it syncs in seems to make that same email a new email again and shows unread.
What am I missing? I assume that if I want the other google stuff to sync that I have this configured correctly but something is off from a gmail perspective.

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[Help] Preventing Google account from syncing e-mail and contact

This has been a bit frustrating.
When you go through set-up, it gives you the option of adding a Google account which is necessary for using Market. But it also syncs your e-mail into the Gmail app and syncs your contacts. I don't want either of those because my Exchange has both contacts and I want to use the HTC mail widget for my Gmail.
I have tried various ways to prevent this from happening, but all have failed.
1. I went through set-up connecting to wifi and adding my Gmail. Then I went to options and removed syncing. But my e-mail and contacts are still in the Gmail app.
2. I did not connect to wifi so that I can first go to options and removing syncing, but that didn't help.
3. I created another generic gmail account just so I can use it for market. However, now that account is connected to my GTalk app instead of my normal account.
So here is my goal:
Use my everyday Gmail with GoogleTalk app, but without it syncing my Gmail contacts or my e-mail with the Gmail app.
Is there any way to do this? Am I missing something? Can you go to the syncing options without actually setuping the Google account first?
Thanks for the help.
Also, while we are on the topic:
What is the main difference between the two? I keep reading online that the Gmail app is supposed to be Push e-mail, but I have also read just as many posts saying it doesn't work or it doesn't do that.
I figured out a solution:
1. Go through set-up and connect to Wi-Fi, but do not set-up a Google account. Skip it.
2. Go to Settings>Syncing>Checking Auto-Sync and Sync in Background
3. Settings>Add Account>Google Account
And here is where you need some fast fingers...
4. Settings>Check Sync in Background and Auto-Sync and quickly click on Google Account you just set-up and uncheck Sync Contacts, Calendars, and E-mail.
I was able to uncheck e-mail sync, but it had synced some of my contacts already. That wasn't a problem b/c I haven't set up my Outlook account so I just deleted all the Google contacts it had synced. But I was fast enough where I didn't let it sync Gmail account.
Now no e-mails in Gmail app and I can use Google Talk.

[Q] which email app do you use and why please.?

Please as title states, which email app do you guys prefer, on the sg2, and why please. I want to be able to use gmail, so jus want to findout what you guys are using, to receive or send your gmail emails. I also want the option to schedule the sync, so your input very much required.
I use the stock Gmail app for my gmail. gmail isn't my primary account so not bothered by any failings, etc.
I use K9 for my main non-gmail personal account. Am very happy with it, can schedule timings and specify a quiet time, when I don't want to be distured by email notifications (i.e. when I'm asleep).
Nooner said:
I use the stock Gmail app for my gmail. gmail isn't my primary account so not bothered by any failings, etc.
I use K9 for my main non-gmail personal account. Am very happy with it, can schedule timings and specify a quiet time, when I don't want to be distured by email notifications (i.e. when I'm asleep).
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Hey nooner,
How do you set up your k9 mail for sync...i cant get my mails updated automatically..i have selected the network settings to when background sync and auto sync checked..but still my mail does not get updated.
Thanks
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I use gmail and have set it (via the web app) to collect hotmail and another pop3 account, so it's perfect for me as I have all emails in 1 app, and I do like the gmail app!
K9 Mail Sync settings.
iznee said:
Hey nooner,
How do you set up your k9 mail for sync...i cant get my mails updated automatically..i have selected the network settings to when background sync and auto sync checked..but still my mail does not get updated.
Thanks
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Apologies for the delayed reply.
I think it's as follows:
Menu --> More --> Settings --> Account Settings --> Fetching Mail:
"Folder Poll Frequency".
Also under the above and within --> Advanced:
"Refresh IDLE connection".
I "think" that's what you're after... to be honest mine has always just worked.
Hope it helps!
i like samsung's email app. Only thing i cant figure out is how to put it to push.
I tried the Samsung E-Mail app but it really pissed me off more and more. You can hardly make any settings, just specify how many mails to load (timeframe) and how often to update, that's about it. the funtionality and look are standard.
I switched to K9 mail again and instantly remembered why I always came back to that app. Not only does my Push work flawlessly for both accounts (one business, one private that collects) without any "premium" account hassle making use of that annoying social hub, but I can specify all sorts of settings like how much data to transfer by default per mail, to load images, and many many more.
blunted09 said:
i like samsung's email app. Only thing i cant figure out is how to put it to push.
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to make push work you have to set your mail account as an imap account. to do so you need to make it a premium account which leads you to samsung collecting your mails via the social hub ... I'd recommend k9 mail. looks the same, and you can make almost any necessary setting.
The stock Gmail app does everything I could ask for
I switched to EnhancedEmail when I used to have a DHD as the stock email client didn't sync contacts and calendars probably.
Enhanced did all the syncing perfectly, however, it just did not allow Exchange accout contacts to be created or added (i dont really know if the stock email client had the same problem or not).
With the SGS2, i used EnhancedEmail first, but recently switched to the stock samsung email client - it seems to work flawlessly, albeit, with the limitations to customisations stated by others. I use Exchange (both my my company email and hotmail) on Push, and at that, it is good enough for my usage.
Riz
Plus the stock mail app draines more battery then k9 due to being more active or active in the wrong way I don't know, but there is a big difference, at least on my phone.

[Q] Sense Email not syncing

Anyone else having problems getting the native HTC email to sync correctly? I have an Exchange account and 3 IMAP accounts and the IMAP accounts will not sync on a regular basis. I loaded up Enhanced Email and it works fine.
I checked as many setting as I could and all appears to be set correctly: wireless networks all set to never sleep, background data and auto-sync both checked
I can keep using Enhanced Email but it's aggravating that I can't get the HTC app to work correctly.
Anyone have any ideas?
I figured it out. When I first got the phone and went through the setup I got a 504 gateway error. I also got there 504 gateway error when initially trying to set up my email accounts. Called customer service and they said to skip out of the setup and do everything manually. She said there was a glitch in the software and that the Gmail and Yahoo account setups didn't work and that all accounts needed to be set up through the IMAP process. Needless to say this is what was causing my problem.
To correct the email sync issue I deleted all of my accounts and set them up through the Gmail and Yahoo account set up process and all appears to be working now.
I am having the same problem so I just tried this option of setting up my yahoo accounts through the set up process. It does appear to receive email much faster but there are some downsides.
My Yahoo inbox (on the website) and the inbox on my Rezound are not completely synced now. The app has the option of downloading up to 30 days of email. Mail older than 30 days doesn't show up on the phone even if it's in your inbox on the website. Conversely, email that I deleted or moved from my inbox some time ago has now magically reappeared on my phone.
Another problem is that my mail folders that I set up on the website do not appear on the Rezound mail app anymore.
Seems the negatives are too numerous to have better syncing. I'm switching back to the manual setup as all the problems I mentioned above are not there and I'll just put up with poor syncing for now.

Account GMail and system Mail vs HTC apps

I'm using default GMail linked to Android Google account as only mail in phone. Problem is, that Sense+ designer probably missed, that someone actualy use GMail instead of internal Mail and here comes problem.
Lockscreen productivity tab - mail and calendar shows only calendar, because (I assume) it expects mails in Mail app. And because I use GMail, there are none.
Camera app share function offers by default Mail to send a picture, GMail option is cleverly hidden under More. And you cant rearrange it, so you have to make one more click and scroll to GMail option.
And probably more, just getting used to work with phone and still didnt explore everything. Am I missing some settings where I can choose default mail app representing Mail option in different programs, or GMail works like completely separate app and it has to be supported directly?
Did you download a Gmail app and that is what you are using? I would think in the general mail app that comes installed with the phone you can add a gmail account to it and it would then link to all functions of the phone. Not sure of your question? Are you using a 3rd party app download for your mail and expecting it to work with all the stock mail functions of the phone?
No when you setup your phone first time then you have to link it at least to google (gmail) account. And this account uses preinstalled gmail app instead default mail. If i wanted to use default mail app, then i would have to add my gmail acc manually, resulting in two apps syncyng same mails (you cant selectively disable gmail sync from google account).
Maybe im missing something as relativelly new android user or it looks like that system is set to use by default gmail app for google account defined mail and ignores system mail app, resulting in problems in (and not only) sense apps.
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Wlk said:
No when you setup your phone first time then you have to link it at least to google (gmail) account. And this account uses preinstalled gmail app instead default mail. If i wanted to use default mail app, then i would have to add my gmail acc manually, resulting in two apps syncyng same mails (you cant selectively disable gmail sync from google account).
Maybe im missing something as relativelly new android user or it looks like that system is set to use by default gmail app for google account defined mail and ignores system mail app, resulting in problems in (and not only) sense apps.
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I'm picking this device up as it's announced Friday to be released here in the US on ATT. Until then, can't help much.
What i would try is hard reset phone, on intial setup do not sync with gmail as it asks, then once phone is set up open the default mail app, manually add your gmail account, now see if you get the home/lockscreen notifications you are looking for. If anything it would be a jellybean 4.1 or sense 4+ issue, doubt it's the actually hardware phone issue. Still though, you would think if you enter your gmail info from the set up prompt that it would sync with the gmail and stock mail app and work with all notifications? Would be dumb not to????
Hopefully can get some clarification on this before friday, if not then guess i'll find out myself.
By default if you fill in Google account during setup it links this mail to GMail app, which is hardcoded in system (cant uninstall, just disable). And it is not the same as default Mail app, which is of course worse than GMail so I would like to keep using GMail. But HTC uses more default Mail in its Sense UI as I mentioned, lockscreen notification (productivity screen) is hardcoded to Mail app only (tested) and Camera is offering Mail in first list for sending picture...
Wlk said:
By default if you fill in Google account during setup it links this mail to GMail app, which is hardcoded in system (cant uninstall, just disable). And it is not the same as default Mail app, which is of course worse than GMail so I would like to keep using GMail. But HTC uses more default Mail in its Sense UI as I mentioned, lockscreen notification (productivity screen) is hardcoded to Mail app only (tested) and Camera is offering Mail in first list for sending picture...
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Wow well this sounds very stupid of HTC or whoever made this setup!!! Maybe someone can help us out then and figure a way for Sense and all the notification programs to use the Gmail app as well as the Yahoo or any other hard coded mail app upon intial setup! I know i'll then be in the same boat as you when i pick up my HOX+ from ATT this friday as i use yahoo, gmail, and outlook for work literally all day long! My work is basically through email when i'm not there so to have no or messed up email notifications on when they arrive, i'll be very upset about this!
Maybe a jellybean 4.1 or sense 4+ bug???

[Q] Is there an app to replace the Android Exchange Active Sync service?

I configured a new account to sync my work email and calendar. This results in me being able to use the stock email app, as email syncs fine, but only some calendar entries are synced. I've tried clearing the cache/data, deleting and setting up the account again, to no avail.
If I use a mail client like Touchdown or Nine, that apparently have their own EAS sync engines, then the calendar does sync fully.
What I'm looking for is an app that just provides the EAS service, that would allow me to use the stock email and calendar apps, but I can only find those mentioned above that also have email clients (and calendar for Touchdown) integrated with them.
I'm on a rooted Nexus 4.4.2
tia
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