Ok,
After reading the forms and after asking questions here (and experimenting) I finally figured this gear s out! Forgive me if you all knew this...but to me it was a process to figure out. For all my talk below...assume BT on and WIFI off.
I am on verizon: not sure if same on other carriers...but my mobile settings are
gear network ON/OFF/Auto (this is confusing...should be called GEAR PHONE RADIO
if OFF- disables mobile network (see below) and cannot recieve text on GEAR number OR Calls on Gear number
IF AUTO- on BT:can only use phones number for text/calls...but off BT can use gears phone number for calls/text
if ON- can always use gear phone for text/sms EVEN if on BT...(can use both at all times).....but see below...lose 10% battery per hour
Mobile network: check box for on or off ....should be called (mobile network)- it is what either connects you remotely if not withing bt range OR uses mobile network to stream/download if away from phone. when ON you can get text/alerts from phone even if phone left home (and on)
SO:
Today- had BT on paired to phone and had gear network auto (which means its OFF since was on BT)- 7 hours 20% battery with lot of use!!!!!!!!!!!
Today- had BT on paried to phone and had GEAR network ON (always was on BT)- lost 20% in 2 hours with light use
I recommend: keep gear network on auto (and mobile network checked).....if you step away from phone and dont need alerts...change gear net off. If you are ever somewhere where you MUST be reachable (2 methods): leave gear network ON always......but you will max get 9-10 hours on your fully charged gear.
hope this helps....sorry if was obvious to you all
I seem to get different results to you.
I have network always on, but have set it to GSM only (2G) - not sure if you have that option? Some of the network operator provided Gear S have that option removed I believe?
I can run for 24+ hours easily, I have set calls to dial out from the Gear S but I respond to SMS messages via the link to my mobile. I was out tonight and I was getting SMS messages from my phone sat at home on my desk and responding via the return link to it on the mobile network.
If i switch on the 3G networks it does suck the battery though as you suggest, but 2G is plenty fast enough for sms, emails and notifications.
I have have had the permanent clock on today too for testing, not many messages and no calls from the watch, but I did get almost 20 hours before I had to put it on charge at 2%
Clock it quite bright though in a dark theater - but does look very cool
I am in the UK and have the latest firmware, did you get the update? Some are saying this helps with battery life.
bisto321 said:
I seem to get different results to you.
I have network always on, but have set it to GSM only (2G) - not sure if you have that option? Some of the network operator provided Gear S have that option removed I believe?
I can run for 24+ hours easily, I have set calls to dial out from the Gear S but I respond to SMS messages via the link to my mobile. I was out tonight and I was getting SMS messages from my phone sat at home on my desk and responding via the return link to it on the mobile network.
If i switch on the 3G networks it does suck the battery though as you suggest, but 2G is plenty fast enough for sms, emails and notifications.
I have have had the permanent clock on today too for testing, not many messages and no calls from the watch, but I did get almost 20 hours before I had to put it on charge at 2%
Clock it quite bright though in a dark theater - but does look very cool
I am in the UK and have the latest firmware, did you get the update? Some are saying this helps with battery life.
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Verizon won't have the 2g/gsm option as it is cdma. Same with the latest firmware... our carriers here get in the way and slow down updates.
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I've been rooted and running a few different ROM's for several months now.
I'm currently on XTRSense 5.0.1, having loaded it within the past week or so. All has been working swimmingly until this morning. I had used it to check weather and such before going to work (tho' I don't recall if I used home WiFi or 3G) and then hadn't looked at my phone till I got to work.
My phone signal was nil with an X over it. I tried toggling on/off for mobile network but the widget and the Options checkbox are both greyed out. I tried rebooting the phone and it still didn't come back. It prompted me to set my clock b/c it wasn't getting network time anymore (1st time I've seen that).
Feeling desperate, I even tried changing the NAM CDMA settings to EVRC-B just to see if I could "jiggle the handle" for the mobile network and get it going. All to no avail.
Text messages do not reach the phone, and calls ring through to voice mail (though not immediately, as though it were ringing the phone).
I'm at a loss and doubtful I could call Verizon to get much help.
Any help anyone can provide would be deeply appreciated!
Thanks!
cm
Disregard... Verizon must be have a weak day and my coverage is a bit dodgier than usual. I usually have better coverage at work, but I had to go hunting for better signal. I guess that's what I get for troubleshooting while sitting at my desk...
Hello,
I found one thread about the same issue but didn't want to revive it because it's in an HTC Incredible S dedicated forum. Anyway, I am having the exact same problem as described there and I've been looking for a solution for months now...
Incoming calls fail when the phone is switched to 3G.
Until I came upon that thread, I thought this problem only occurs on Hypersimmed Japanese phones -- Japanese phones have a SIM lock that can only be overcome using a hypersim and even then they don't usually work fine in 3G.
Some hypersims, however, seem to be able to "do something" about this issue - while I have zero issues with incoming calls under 3G on my 904SH (2006 model), the problem described here occurs on my Android-powered Sharp Softbank 005SH.
So, I can connect to the 3G network (when in 3G only mode - if set to AUTO the switch causes the phone to lose signal and the SIM must be inserted in a "normal" phone to regain signal, we call this "CPR").
3G data works and 3G incoming calls work -- as long as there is an active data connection.
One way to do this was have Skype running all the time - huge battery drain and still incoming calls would occasionally fail as Skype doesn't seem to update its data at fixed small intervals...
I have estimated that the data connection closes in about 30 seconds, which means that after this period, incoming calls will fail.
I tried a small app that a friend had written - a screen widget that connects to a server at a fixed interval, e.g. 20 or 30 seconds, and displays different small photos.
This app does the trick as long as the phone's screen is on. If I switch it off, the app continues working, and even lights up the screen every 20 seconds (at maybe 1/3 of normal brightness) but incoming calls fail.
Now, in the above mentioned thread, the user only writes that his problem got fixed by itself.
I too have excellent 3G coverage and it's not a local problem (near my home's signal tower).
So, any ideas will be welcome!
I'm using different SIM cards, with different numbers, on the Android and on the Gear S. The Gear S is set to use the Gear number for calls and for SMS sending. If I send an SMS to the Gear number, it always arrives there. If I try to send (compose or reply) an SMS message from the Gear, then:
* 99% of the cases it gives a timeout and is not sent
* if I quickly put the Gear in airplane mode, then turn airplane mode off, then send immediately the SMS, is is always sent
Any hints? Does anybody have issues with SMS sending (originating from the Gear, not proxied via the phone)?
Br,
C
PS. - I guess I just posted in the wrong area, but I have no clue as of how to move this to the Troubleshooting zone ...
When this happens, is your watch connected to your phone via BT? The watch's cell radio is auto-disabled whenever it is BT connected to the phone.
foxbat121 said:
When this happens, is your watch connected to your phone via BT? The watch's cell radio is auto-disabled whenever it is BT connected to the phone.
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The watch is not connected via BT when this happens, and the 3G is always on. I made sure it only has the 3G connection and it is set to use the Gear number ...
Then you probably have SIM card or account setup issue not related to Watch itself. I don't know which region your watch is from. Here in US, my AT&T version won't allow sending text message from watch's radio using another number. It has to be the number of the watch itself. Security restrictions from the carrier I guess.
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Then you probably have SIM card or account setup issue not related to Watch itself. I don't know which region your watch is from. Here in US, my AT&T version won't allow sending text message from watch's radio using another number. It has to be the number of the watch itself. Security restrictions from the carrier I guess.
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Did that too, forced the operator to send the configuration again to the Gear number, received it on the Gear, approved the setup, got the MMS and internet APNs updated ... the Gear sends SMSs from its own number, and it works for a couple of minutes after it is out of airplane mode, then stops working. It can also receive messages anytime, without any problems - so it must be something else. Since I seem to be alone having this issue, I will probably reflash and reinstall, maybe it fixes itself
I'm having almost the same problem except with calls --- texts go through fine both ways, but I can only receive calls, when I try to make an outgoing call on the gear in standalone mode (phone not connected) it says either "unexpected response" or "emergency calls only" I think it could be a firmware bug as I found two firmware updates I'd missed (will test it tomorrow, currently a storm so no ATT reception here) but make sure your firmware is latest version, if it's not, update it and try again.
i'm on the latest fw, take care, you may lose text messages too
Ah, well I guess it wont help you >.< sorry. Good Luck!
Though in my case, after updating the firmware it works perfectly for calls/texts now! Data doesn't work, but I don't really need that (I have an unlimited plan on my phone and excellent reception usually, the gear's tiny plan ($10/3 months) is just for those odd times when I forget my phone or it's battery dies, or it has no reception and I *have* to make a call --- to date not had a problem like that in 10 years, but peace of mind for $3/month is worth it )
Hi all
I have question regarding buying new SIM and data plan.
how much MB have you in one month ? (average)
I understand all calls, SMS, emails are transfered via internet to the watch.
If i replay some SMS on my watch it goes also to my PHONE and from there SMS in sent ?
What about CALLS I have made (which number is shown)
You only use voice, text, and data on the Gear's plan when it's not connected to your phone via BT. If not on BT it has access to Internet and carrier data and uses Internet first unless there's a signal issue where it'll fall back to carrier data. It works just like your phone because it is a phone. When connected via BT calls and texts you create on the Gear are passed through to your phone so that's which plan applies. In that situation the phone's (not the Gear's) phone number is used/displayed. If not connected to BT the Gear's separate phone number is used/displayed and its plan will be charged for voice, text, and (carrier) data.
How much carrier data the Gear uses depends on how often it's not connected to your phone, how often it is connected to the Internet, and which apps you use on it. Streaming Milk in stand alone mode will use a nice chunk of data.
I have a 10MB data plan for my gear. so far i havent gone over it, but havent checked the actual usage. most of the time the gear is connected by BT. usually on the weekends i use it stand alone for texting.
I have a 100 mb data plan.. the maximum I have used in a month is 30 mb
My Gear S uses less than 1MB/mth and my phone about 2. Its rare I am not on WiFi with my phone and I don't stream music or video with my Gear S. I next to never take my phone with me so my Gear S is on data off and on all day long. Email gets forwarded to my watch but without attachments so it takes very little data.
I have 20mb plan and usually with just the remote connectivity i never go over that. And a little tip...have the phone use edge and your battery consumption when remotely connected will almost be like Bluetooth. You don't need 3G speeds for the fowarding of your notifications from your phone.
I just got my Gear S and I have couple of questions that I haven't been able to discover an answer for. Is it possible to rotate the screen to landscape mode? I haven't found a way to do if there is. Also what would be needed to send/receive calls on it in stand alone mode?
It is not possible to rate the screen.
There is nothing else needed to make/receive calls in stand alone as long as you have the watch activated with a carrier plan. It will have its own phone number. However, if it is connected to your phone via Bluetooth, the cell radio on the watch is disable by default to save battery.
Also, make sure you bought the correct version of Gear S for use. As a dual band phone, Gear S is not a global phone. Specifically, North American market and rest of the world do not match in frequency bands. So, if you bought a non-NA Gear S, it won't work in NA and vice versa.
Thanks for the info. It is an ATT gear s which is the service that I have. I realized that I asked the first question incorrectly. I was wondering about rotating the screen when viewing video or photos. I found a video play that will rotate it for you.
Also to go full solo mode your phone needs to be shut off. If it is on, then the watch will connect through the cell network from your phone and you will still get calls from your phone's number on the watch. If the phone is off the network, or turned off, then your watch's number will be the active one.
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Also to go full solo mode your phone needs to be shut off. If it is on, then the watch will connect through the cell network from your phone and you will still get calls from your phone's number on the watch. If the phone is off the network, or turned off, then your watch's number will be the active one.
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No you don't have to. As long as you are not connected via Bluetooth to your phone, your watch can receive phone calls from both numbers. In fact, if auto-forwarding is turned on, you will still receive phone calls from your phone's number even if the phone is turned off that is because the forwarding is done at carrier network level, not on your phone.
With Bluetooth turned on, the default behavior is turn off the cell radio on the watch to save battery. But you can still turn it on in the settings so that your watch can always receive calls to the watch's number at the cost of worse battery life.
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No you don't have to. As long as you are not connected via Bluetooth to your phone, your watch can receive phone calls from both numbers. In fact, if auto-forwarding is turned on, you will still receive phone calls from your phone's number even if the phone is turned off that is because the forwarding is done at carrier network level, not on your phone.
With Bluetooth turned on, the default behavior is turn off the cell radio on the watch to save battery. But you can still turn it on in the settings so that your watch can always receive calls to the watch's number at the cost of worse battery life.
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This does not work this way for me in the U.S. and under AT&T. I have auto-forwarding on, but if the phone is off I do not get calls to the phone forwarded to the watch. With the phone off, the watch only gets calls to the watch number. It gets forwarded calls from the phone if bluetooth is off, but the phone has to still be turned on and on the network.
Here is an excerpt from the manual:
Connected Remotely
When connected remotely, the Gear S is not
connected to the smartphone via Bluetooth, but is
still connected to the smartphone via the mobile
network.
While connected remotely, the Gear S can
receive notifications and calls from the
smartphone, calls and SMS messages to the
Gear S phone number, and have limited access
to Samsung Gear app functions. Calls which
are placed will be dialed from the Gear phone
number.
Gear Only
In Gear Only mode, the Gear S is not connected
to the smartphone, and is operating as an
independent device.
While in Gear Only mode, the Gear S will only
send and receive SMS messages and calls to the
Gear S phone number, and will have no access
to Samsung Gear app functions.
Maybe I should be more specific. You can turn off the phone after your watch confirms forwarding is on. This is because your phone is the only device that can turn on the forwarding. But once it is turned on, the phone itself don't have to be on.
You can rotate your Samsung Gear S. With a quick update however, they've added a new option that lets you change the orientation to vertical instead — making things much easier to read. Of course if you like the horizontal layout better, that option is still there as well.
Here is a video on how to rotate your screen
http://www.connectedly.com/how-change-screen-orientation-samsung-gear-fit
Hey please could anybody please confirm whether can I flash the Italy firmware over my Indian Gear S. Since my country firmware is not updated to 2.2.1.4. Some people even says that the new firmware provides reply options what's app and few themes and clock faces. Please somebody reply.
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Rickyzx said:
You can rotate your Samsung Gear S. With a quick update however, they've added a new option that lets you change the orientation to vertical instead — making things much easier to read. Of course if you like the horizontal layout better, that option is still there as well.
Here is a video on how to rotate your screen
http://www.connectedly.com/how-change-screen-orientation-samsung-gear-fit
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That's for the Samsung Gear Fit, not the Gear S.
Rickyzx said:
You can rotate your Samsung Gear S. With a quick update however, they've added a new option that lets you change the orientation to vertical instead — making things much easier to read. Of course if you like the horizontal layout better, that option is still there as well.
Here is a video on how to rotate your screen
http://www.connectedly.com/how-change-screen-orientation-samsung-gear-fit
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This video is for the Gear Fit, not the Gear S.