Hi all
I have question regarding buying new SIM and data plan.
how much MB have you in one month ? (average)
I understand all calls, SMS, emails are transfered via internet to the watch.
If i replay some SMS on my watch it goes also to my PHONE and from there SMS in sent ?
What about CALLS I have made (which number is shown)
You only use voice, text, and data on the Gear's plan when it's not connected to your phone via BT. If not on BT it has access to Internet and carrier data and uses Internet first unless there's a signal issue where it'll fall back to carrier data. It works just like your phone because it is a phone. When connected via BT calls and texts you create on the Gear are passed through to your phone so that's which plan applies. In that situation the phone's (not the Gear's) phone number is used/displayed. If not connected to BT the Gear's separate phone number is used/displayed and its plan will be charged for voice, text, and (carrier) data.
How much carrier data the Gear uses depends on how often it's not connected to your phone, how often it is connected to the Internet, and which apps you use on it. Streaming Milk in stand alone mode will use a nice chunk of data.
I have a 10MB data plan for my gear. so far i havent gone over it, but havent checked the actual usage. most of the time the gear is connected by BT. usually on the weekends i use it stand alone for texting.
I have a 100 mb data plan.. the maximum I have used in a month is 30 mb
My Gear S uses less than 1MB/mth and my phone about 2. Its rare I am not on WiFi with my phone and I don't stream music or video with my Gear S. I next to never take my phone with me so my Gear S is on data off and on all day long. Email gets forwarded to my watch but without attachments so it takes very little data.
I have 20mb plan and usually with just the remote connectivity i never go over that. And a little tip...have the phone use edge and your battery consumption when remotely connected will almost be like Bluetooth. You don't need 3G speeds for the fowarding of your notifications from your phone.
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Hi All,
I've updated my Titan to TANGO and new firmware (and radio fw), but I have the same problem I had with Mango:
Data (internet/mail/tethering (shared internet connection) does NOT work if a phone call is on!
IE: I used tethering with my PC, if a phone call come no data connection, when I closed the call data connection restart!
This happens with EDGE and most of the times even in HSDPA... with my previous HD2 (WP6.5) I could use interner with my PC (in tethering) having a call in the same time even with EDGE...
Is this happenng to someone else?
PS: I inserted manually APN to be sure it is correct... no changes
BYE
I am having the same thing happen to, when browsing the web I cannot receive phone call.
Stock rom: OS-7.10.8107.79
Firmware- 1600.2200.20501.401
Radio-16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23U
Boot loader-2.5.160015.3(137079)
On which roms are you guys? Stock or customs?
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You know that it is totally normal that you can´t use data if a phone call is active ???
hi,
this happend on Mango and happens with Tango too (official HTC rom)
When I receive a phone-call, connection data gets out and NO internet connectio!. When the call finish the internet restarts again.
This do not happen on DEll Venue PRo with official Tango: internet keeps going when i speak by phone, as on my old HD2 with WM6.5
HELP!
I often use internat-sharing (tethering) and if I receive a call I can not answer if I qant to keep the internet connection!
THANKS
drky said:
I am having the same thing happen to, when browsing the web I cannot receive phone call.
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Hi have the opposite problem:
when browsing the web I receive a phone-call, but if I answer internet stops (under EDGE, HSDPA...) and restarts when I finisch the call
It is not possible to have both data and voice in EDGE mode. That's the limitation of GSM radio on that mode.
You need to be in 3G mode in order to do so. Old WM phones can automatically disconnection data if there is call come in and reconnect after you handup.
zorroz said:
Hi have the opposite problem:
when browsing the web I receive a phone-call, but if I answer internet stops (under EDGE, HSDPA...) and restarts when I finisch the call
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I preferred your your problem, (although I don't think it's a problem) I don't mine receiving phone call and losing data.
foxbat121 said:
It is not possible to have both data and voice in EDGE mode. That's the limitation of GSM radio on that mode.
You need to be in 3G mode in order to do so. Old WM phones can automatically disconnection data if there is call come in and reconnect after you handup.
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No, on my Dell Venue Pro under EDGE I can surfing web and syncronize email while I'm calling!
I do it, but I don't with my Titan
After 1000 tests with 4 sim I can say:
- on my Titan I can call and have connection only under HSDPA if I manually set APN
- on other devices (Dell Venue Pro with WP7.5 Tango + HD2 WM6.5) I can call and surf the web with EDGE 3G HSDPA
is it only on my device?
I know that EDGE is not very often present, but it happens in Italy... and in some places where I work!
PLS, if someone could make a test... thanks in advance
zorroz said:
No, on my Dell Venue Pro under EDGE I can surfing web and syncronize email while I'm calling!
I do it, but I don't with my Titan
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I don't know how your DVP does it but do a search and you will learn that it is not possible for EDGE connection to serve both voice and data. It could be that you are really connected to 3G but your DVP is reporting EDGE. Or your DVP has two separate radio, one for data, one for voice.
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I don't know how your DVP does it but do a search and you will learn that it is not possible for EDGE connection to serve both voice and data. It could be that you are really connected to 3G but your DVP is reporting EDGE. Or your DVP has two separate radio, one for data, one for voice.
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Thanks for your suggestions!
I searched in the web, and maybe I found out the answer from
http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/q...a-gets-disconnected-when-call-comes-on-mobile :
EDGE (and GPRS) are capable of supporting simultaneous voice and data ONLY if it is a Class C device.
Most phones these days are Class B (such as iPhone).
Class B support voice calls while in data mode (data disconnects when a call comes in) and data is "attached" while the phone is idle. Some Class B devices are configured so that the data takes priority (iPhone). Thus an iPhone will not take a call when an active edge data transfer is ongoing..it goes to voicemail.
Class A devices are either in data mode or voice mode (but never both).
even supported here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115034-233.html
"GPRS network 130 can be designed to operate in three network operation modes (NOM1, NOM2 and NOM3). A network operation modes of a GPRS network is indicated by a parameter in system information messages transmitted within a cell. The system information messages dictates a MS where to listen for paging messages and how signal towards the network. The network operation mode represents the capabilities of the GPRS network. In a NOM1 network, a MS can receive pages from a circuit switched domain (voice call) when engaged in a data call. The MS can suspend the data call or take both simultaneously, depending on the ability of the MS, In a NOM2 network, a MS may not received pages from a circuit switched domain when engaged in a data call, since the MS is receiving data and is not listening to a paging channel In a NOM3 network, a MS can monitor pages for a circuit switched network while received data and vise versa. "
This means that HTC Titan is not a Class C device...
foxbat121 said:
I don't know how your DVP does it but do a search and you will learn that it is not possible for EDGE connection to serve both voice and data. It could be that you are really connected to 3G but your DVP is reporting EDGE. Or your DVP has two separate radio, one for data, one for voice.
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drky said:
I am having the same thing happen to, when browsing the web I cannot receive phone call.
Stock rom: OS-7.10.8107.79
Firmware- 1600.2200.20501.401
Radio-16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23U
Boot loader-2.5.160015.3(137079)
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Your answer here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115034-233.html
We previously noted that the iPhone may miss calls while sleeping (locked). Some users are now reporting what seems to be a significant issue where their iPhones cannot receive incoming calls while transferring EDGE data. Here, in a nutshell, is what appears to be happening:
The iPhone cannot simultaneously use EDGE and voice services. That is, if you are on a call, you cannot concurrently access EDGE-data functions. In addition, as documented in Knowledge Base article #305711:
"While iPhone is actively transferring data over EDGEâ??downloading a webpage, for exampleâ??you may not be able to receive calls. Incoming calls may go to voicemail."
The "may not be able to receive calls" portion stems from the fact that there are two types of EDGE network types, NOM1 and NOM2. When your iPhone is connected to a NOM1 network, the data transmission will generally be interrupted, and the incoming call allowed to come through. When your iPhone is connected to a NOM2 network, however, the EDGE data transfer process cannot be interrupted, and the call will generally go to voicemail.
Fortunately, there is a way to check whether you are connected to a NOM1 or NOM2 network. First, put your iPhone in field test mode by accessing the Phone application, tapping Keypad, then entering *3001#12345#* and pressing Call.
Tap GPRS Information and look at the entry next to nom. It will be either 1 or 2. If you see a 1, you'll likely be able to receive a call while transferring data. If you see a 2, you likely won't.
Unfortunately, it appears that NOM2 is much more prevalent on AT&T's data network. In fact, we've yet to see our iPhone connect to a NOM1 network. As such, we can't even state with certainty that the iPhone supports NOM1 at all.
"GPRS network 130 can be designed to operate in three network operation modes (NOM1, NOM2 and NOM3). A network operation modes of a GPRS network is indicated by a parameter in system information messages transmitted within a cell. The system information messages dictates a MS where to listen for paging messages and how signal towards the network. The network operation mode represents the capabilities of the GPRS network. In a NOM1 network, a MS can receive pages from a circuit switched domain (voice call) when engaged in a data call. The MS can suspend the data call or take both simultaneously, depending on the ability of the MS, In a NOM2 network, a MS may not received pages from a circuit switched domain when engaged in a data call, since the MS is receiving data and is not listening to a paging channel In a NOM3 network, a MS can monitor pages for a circuit switched network while received data and vise versa. "
zorroz said:
This means that HTC Titan is not a Class C device...
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As far as I know, there isn't any class C devices on the market. Maybe your DVP is an exception but I highly doubt it.
Ok,
After reading the forms and after asking questions here (and experimenting) I finally figured this gear s out! Forgive me if you all knew this...but to me it was a process to figure out. For all my talk below...assume BT on and WIFI off.
I am on verizon: not sure if same on other carriers...but my mobile settings are
gear network ON/OFF/Auto (this is confusing...should be called GEAR PHONE RADIO
if OFF- disables mobile network (see below) and cannot recieve text on GEAR number OR Calls on Gear number
IF AUTO- on BT:can only use phones number for text/calls...but off BT can use gears phone number for calls/text
if ON- can always use gear phone for text/sms EVEN if on BT...(can use both at all times).....but see below...lose 10% battery per hour
Mobile network: check box for on or off ....should be called (mobile network)- it is what either connects you remotely if not withing bt range OR uses mobile network to stream/download if away from phone. when ON you can get text/alerts from phone even if phone left home (and on)
SO:
Today- had BT on paired to phone and had gear network auto (which means its OFF since was on BT)- 7 hours 20% battery with lot of use!!!!!!!!!!!
Today- had BT on paried to phone and had GEAR network ON (always was on BT)- lost 20% in 2 hours with light use
I recommend: keep gear network on auto (and mobile network checked).....if you step away from phone and dont need alerts...change gear net off. If you are ever somewhere where you MUST be reachable (2 methods): leave gear network ON always......but you will max get 9-10 hours on your fully charged gear.
hope this helps....sorry if was obvious to you all
I seem to get different results to you.
I have network always on, but have set it to GSM only (2G) - not sure if you have that option? Some of the network operator provided Gear S have that option removed I believe?
I can run for 24+ hours easily, I have set calls to dial out from the Gear S but I respond to SMS messages via the link to my mobile. I was out tonight and I was getting SMS messages from my phone sat at home on my desk and responding via the return link to it on the mobile network.
If i switch on the 3G networks it does suck the battery though as you suggest, but 2G is plenty fast enough for sms, emails and notifications.
I have have had the permanent clock on today too for testing, not many messages and no calls from the watch, but I did get almost 20 hours before I had to put it on charge at 2%
Clock it quite bright though in a dark theater - but does look very cool
I am in the UK and have the latest firmware, did you get the update? Some are saying this helps with battery life.
bisto321 said:
I seem to get different results to you.
I have network always on, but have set it to GSM only (2G) - not sure if you have that option? Some of the network operator provided Gear S have that option removed I believe?
I can run for 24+ hours easily, I have set calls to dial out from the Gear S but I respond to SMS messages via the link to my mobile. I was out tonight and I was getting SMS messages from my phone sat at home on my desk and responding via the return link to it on the mobile network.
If i switch on the 3G networks it does suck the battery though as you suggest, but 2G is plenty fast enough for sms, emails and notifications.
I have have had the permanent clock on today too for testing, not many messages and no calls from the watch, but I did get almost 20 hours before I had to put it on charge at 2%
Clock it quite bright though in a dark theater - but does look very cool
I am in the UK and have the latest firmware, did you get the update? Some are saying this helps with battery life.
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Verizon won't have the 2g/gsm option as it is cdma. Same with the latest firmware... our carriers here get in the way and slow down updates.
to get smart relay activated properly you must first turn on the mobile data connection on your phone then the mobile data connection on your watch. if the gear s has auto mobile data defaulted, in 60 seconds you will not have to activate it manually.
This method is to get the calls forwarded. Again, to establish the remote connection both phone and watch mobile data connections must be established. If youre connected to wifi the remote connection will not work.
Once call forwarding or remote connection has been established it is not necessary to keep the mobile data connections on either the phone or watch. The remote setup has been worked out through your cellular provider and there isn't a need to keep data on if you don't need them.
This must be done every time to get it working. I'm using both a tmobile bought gear S and note 4. It all works brilliantly.
if i have the phone and watch connected, and i receive a call, and answer it from the watch, will i speak from the phone? its easier to slide from the watch...
Hello I'm having great problems with remote connection. All I get is error message when I try to activate it. all it says is error has occurred please try again. I have note 4 and tmobile. I'm stuck and been researching for 2 days now. Any ideas?
bjh2379 said:
Hello I'm having great problems with remote connection. All I get is error message when I try to activate it. all it says is error has occurred please try again. I have note 4 and tmobile. I'm stuck and been researching for 2 days now. Any ideas?
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Redo call forwarding setup both on gear manager and watch itself
Mine takes 2-4 tries to connect but after that its flawless
It has to have remote connection first to do the call forwarding
Any ideas?
A good reset/Uninstall the apps always helps me
Yeah tried. Nothing. Now its not recognizing my sim card
i get the same error forwarding calls when moving from BT to mobile connection. although the watch shows me the notifications, it keeps the error.try again.
how do i redo the call forwarding protocol on both devices?
bjh2379 said:
Yeah tried. Nothing. Now its not recognizing my sim card
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Did ya fix it
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
No Data Plan
hughedee74 said:
to get smart relay activated properly you must first turn on the mobile data connection on your phone then the mobile data connection on your watch. if the gear s has auto mobile data defaulted, in 60 seconds you will not have to activate it manually.
This method is to get the calls forwarded. Again, to establish the remote connection both phone and watch mobile data connections must be established. If youre connected to wifi the remote connection will not work.
Once call forwarding or remote connection has been established it is not necessary to keep the mobile data connections on either the phone or watch. The remote setup has been worked out through your cellular provider and there isn't a need to keep data on if you don't need them.
This must be done every time to get it working. I'm using both a tmobile bought gear S and note 4. It all works brilliantly.
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I am nor completely clear.....are you saying that each time you know you will be leaving your phone at home, you must manually set up Remote Connection and then turn it off when you reconnect to the watch via bluetooth? I thought is was supposed to be automatic. Also, does this Remote Connection require a data plan to allow it to function? I am in Canada and none of the carriers have a "wearable plan". I just purchased a prepaid nanoSIM from Rogers and signed up for a talk & text plan but no data and I don't want to be paying big $ for data if the watch requires data to function with Remote Connection. HELP!
Rick76 said:
I am nor completely clear.....are you saying that each time you know you will be leaving your phone at home, you must manually set up Remote Connection and then turn it off when you reconnect to the watch via bluetooth? I thought is was supposed to be automatic. Also, does this Remote Connection require a data plan to allow it to function? I am in Canada and none of the carriers have a "wearable plan". I just purchased a prepaid nanoSIM from Rogers and signed up for a talk & text plan but no data and I don't want to be paying big $ for data if the watch requires data to function with Remote Connection. HELP!
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As far as I'm aware there are actually two separate issues to consider here.
1) If you turn on Call Forwarding in the Gear Manager app on your phone, then calls to your phone (using your phone number) will ring on your watch when not connected through Bluetooth (by being forwarded to your watch #). This is simply call forwarding and all you need is a watch plan that allows voice; no data plan required. You would normally use this when you want to leave the phone at home and receive calls on your watch while you're out, etc. The forwarding isnt automatic, you turn it on or off as required in Gear Manager.
2) If you have a plan that allows data (or have access to a wifi connection) then you will be able to receive texts and all notifications from your phone on your watch when connected remotely. You won't be able to receive calls in real time with only a data plan though, unless you also have a voice plan and forward calls as per #1 above. On the bright side, you will still get the missed call notification if your watch plan allows data, so while you can't answer the call you can always call them back right away. Data plans (or wifi) allow for the remote connection to your phone when out of bluetooth range. This remote connection is possible because without bluetooth, the phone and watch can only sync up through your Samsung account, which is why they need some sort of data connection. Once you've set everything up on your phone and watch, the remote connection will happen autonatically within 60 seconds of losing bluetooth connectivity.
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sefrcoko said:
As far as I'm aware there are actually two separate issues to consider here.
1) If you turn on Call Forwarding in the Gear Manager app on your phone, then calls to your phone (using your phone number) will ring on your watch when not connected through Bluetooth (by being forwarded to your watch #). This is simply call forwarding and all you need is a watch plan that allows voice; no data plan required. You would normally use this when you want to leave the phone at home and receive calls on your watch while you're out, etc. The forwarding isnt automatic, you turn it on or off as required in Gear Manager.
2) If you have a plan that allows data (or have access to a wifi connection) then you will be able to receive texts and all notifications from your phone on your watch when connected remotely. You won't be able to receive calls in real time with only a data plan though, unless you also have a voice plan and forward calls as per #1 above. On the bright side, you will still get the missed call notification if your watch plan allows data, so while you can't answer the call you can always call them back right away. Data plans (or wifi) allow for the remote connection to your phone when out of bluetooth range. This remote connection is possible because without bluetooth, the phone and watch can only sync up through your Samsung account, which is why they need some sort of data connection. Once you've set everything up on your phone and watch, the remote connection will happen autonatically within 60 seconds of losing bluetooth connectivity.
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Thanks for the clarification. I currently only have the Talk & Text plan so I will have to see how much data is used to push the information. I may have to get a data plan as well.
Rick76 said:
Thanks for the clarification. I currently only have the Talk & Text plan so I will have to see how much data is used to push the information. I may have to get a data plan as well.
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Happy to help. Also check out my post from the general thread to see my experience with trying to find a good weaeable-like plan here in Canada:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58611081
So to further ask questions about these things..
I just got the watch today and have been searching and trying to find tips on it...
If I am connected via bluetooth.. why does my watch not ring? I thought I could pretty much leave my phone in my pocket all day and do everything through the watch (receive calls and what not). I notice the "messages" app ONLY has messages in there sent from the watch itself. If I get a text message I can view it (not reply..) and it does not show up on the actual watch texts... ideas?
Thanks in advanced.
Hey all,
I just have a question. Lets assume we do have a phone with SIM-A and the Watch with SIM-B. They are connected via bluetooth and for a reason, bluetooth connection get lost. Theoretically, the calls from SIM-A should be diverted to SIM-B. Automatically. Correct?
Because, practically, I am trying this with the Galaxy S7 edge with two sims (SM-G935FD) and it is not working. I got only missed-call notification. The call is not diverted and the phone is still ringing. However, I can do it manually, which of course is not as advertised.
I'm about to make the jump to the T-mobile $30 prepaid plan. Only 100 min/mo of voice, so the plan was to use my google voice over wifi/data for all outgoing calls, and hopefully be able to get incoming calls the same way. I'm guessing the answer is no, but is there any way to get real time incoming calls without having an active data (either wifi or mobile data) connection? In other words, is there any way for the phone to wake up only for those calls?
I've managed to tune my phone (Galaxy S4 with goldfinger ROM) so that I'm only using 0.4%/hour battery at idle. Using 2G constantly drops me to >2%/hour, and wifi is around 1.2-1.5%/hour. Not horrible, but significant over the course of the day.
If there's no other way, I'm thinking I'll just have the data turn on at intervals to check for push messages if I'm somewhere where I won't be able to get to a charger. Again, no deal breaker here, but I'm a bit of a battery nerd...
im looking to purchase a gear s unlocked brand new but everywhere i go to finda a demo or more info i cannot find one where i live even the staff are clueless even the ones working in the samsung store.
my questions are
1. if i put my phone sim into my gear s what functions can it do similarly on my phone if say i go for a walk without my phone? will whatsapp work?
2. does the gear s need to have your phone connected to the internet at home if you leave it there and go out for the day for full functionality? i read in order for gear manager to function the phone needs to be on and connected to a working connection (obviously the gear s will have my sim in it o i assume calls etc i'll receive via the watch)
3. is the watch truly stand alone for calls texts whatsapp etc if i just put my phone sim in it and go out for the night?
my ideal scenario is if i want to go out for the night and dont want to bring my phone wih me im hoping i can receive calls texts and whatsapp only by just having my phone sim in the watch. is this doable? or does my phone need to be connected in some way?
thanks
Yes. If you put your sim in the watch you will get phone calls and txt. You can txt back just like normal. Not sure about whatsapp because I don't use it. You do have to have a Samsung phone to get emails and other notification type stuff and the phone has to be connected to wifi for that to work. It makes a remote connection using network via wifi with phone and cell network with the watch.
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So can i leave my phone at home connected to wifi and receive calls and texts from that number pushed to the gear s and also receive calls and texts on the separate sim i have in the watch?
If i put my phone sim in my gear s can i literally get everything i need pushed?
Sorry your post answered my question above. But in regards to whatsapp calling or viber on the gear s can i do that from the watch? How loud is the loud speaker? Like if im outside and it is noisey with traffic can i still hear without needing to put the watch close to my ear?
Lastly is it possible to sideload android wear fitness apps to it even though it runs tizen?
I like i can put a sim in unlike the s 2