Internet connection and phone calling

Internet connection and phone calling - HTC Titan

Hi All,
I've updated my Titan to TANGO and new firmware (and radio fw), but I have the same problem I had with Mango:
Data (internet/mail/tethering (shared internet connection) does NOT work if a phone call is on!
IE: I used tethering with my PC, if a phone call come no data connection, when I closed the call data connection restart!
This happens with EDGE and most of the times even in HSDPA... with my previous HD2 (WP6.5) I could use interner with my PC (in tethering) having a call in the same time even with EDGE...
Is this happenng to someone else?
PS: I inserted manually APN to be sure it is correct... no changes
BYE

I am having the same thing happen to, when browsing the web I cannot receive phone call.
Stock rom: OS-7.10.8107.79
Firmware- 1600.2200.20501.401
Radio-16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23U
Boot loader-2.5.160015.3(137079)

On which roms are you guys? Stock or customs?
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You know that it is totally normal that you can´t use data if a phone call is active ???

hi,
this happend on Mango and happens with Tango too (official HTC rom)
When I receive a phone-call, connection data gets out and NO internet connectio!. When the call finish the internet restarts again.
This do not happen on DEll Venue PRo with official Tango: internet keeps going when i speak by phone, as on my old HD2 with WM6.5
HELP!
I often use internat-sharing (tethering) and if I receive a call I can not answer if I qant to keep the internet connection!
THANKS

drky said:
I am having the same thing happen to, when browsing the web I cannot receive phone call.
Stock rom: OS-7.10.8107.79
Firmware- 1600.2200.20501.401
Radio-16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23U
Boot loader-2.5.160015.3(137079)
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Hi have the opposite problem:
when browsing the web I receive a phone-call, but if I answer internet stops (under EDGE, HSDPA...) and restarts when I finisch the call

It is not possible to have both data and voice in EDGE mode. That's the limitation of GSM radio on that mode.
You need to be in 3G mode in order to do so. Old WM phones can automatically disconnection data if there is call come in and reconnect after you handup.

zorroz said:
Hi have the opposite problem:
when browsing the web I receive a phone-call, but if I answer internet stops (under EDGE, HSDPA...) and restarts when I finisch the call
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I preferred your your problem, (although I don't think it's a problem) I don't mine receiving phone call and losing data.

foxbat121 said:
It is not possible to have both data and voice in EDGE mode. That's the limitation of GSM radio on that mode.
You need to be in 3G mode in order to do so. Old WM phones can automatically disconnection data if there is call come in and reconnect after you handup.
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No, on my Dell Venue Pro under EDGE I can surfing web and syncronize email while I'm calling!
I do it, but I don't with my Titan

After 1000 tests with 4 sim I can say:
- on my Titan I can call and have connection only under HSDPA if I manually set APN
- on other devices (Dell Venue Pro with WP7.5 Tango + HD2 WM6.5) I can call and surf the web with EDGE 3G HSDPA
is it only on my device?
I know that EDGE is not very often present, but it happens in Italy... and in some places where I work!
PLS, if someone could make a test... thanks in advance

zorroz said:
No, on my Dell Venue Pro under EDGE I can surfing web and syncronize email while I'm calling!
I do it, but I don't with my Titan
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I don't know how your DVP does it but do a search and you will learn that it is not possible for EDGE connection to serve both voice and data. It could be that you are really connected to 3G but your DVP is reporting EDGE. Or your DVP has two separate radio, one for data, one for voice.

foxbat121 said:
I don't know how your DVP does it but do a search and you will learn that it is not possible for EDGE connection to serve both voice and data. It could be that you are really connected to 3G but your DVP is reporting EDGE. Or your DVP has two separate radio, one for data, one for voice.
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drky said:
I am having the same thing happen to, when browsing the web I cannot receive phone call.
Stock rom: OS-7.10.8107.79
Firmware- 1600.2200.20501.401
Radio-16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23U
Boot loader-2.5.160015.3(137079)
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Your answer here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115034-233.html
We previously noted that the iPhone may miss calls while sleeping (locked). Some users are now reporting what seems to be a significant issue where their iPhones cannot receive incoming calls while transferring EDGE data. Here, in a nutshell, is what appears to be happening:
The iPhone cannot simultaneously use EDGE and voice services. That is, if you are on a call, you cannot concurrently access EDGE-data functions. In addition, as documented in Knowledge Base article #305711:
"While iPhone is actively transferring data over EDGEâ??downloading a webpage, for exampleâ??you may not be able to receive calls. Incoming calls may go to voicemail."
The "may not be able to receive calls" portion stems from the fact that there are two types of EDGE network types, NOM1 and NOM2. When your iPhone is connected to a NOM1 network, the data transmission will generally be interrupted, and the incoming call allowed to come through. When your iPhone is connected to a NOM2 network, however, the EDGE data transfer process cannot be interrupted, and the call will generally go to voicemail.
Fortunately, there is a way to check whether you are connected to a NOM1 or NOM2 network. First, put your iPhone in field test mode by accessing the Phone application, tapping Keypad, then entering *3001#12345#* and pressing Call.
Tap GPRS Information and look at the entry next to nom. It will be either 1 or 2. If you see a 1, you'll likely be able to receive a call while transferring data. If you see a 2, you likely won't.
Unfortunately, it appears that NOM2 is much more prevalent on AT&T's data network. In fact, we've yet to see our iPhone connect to a NOM1 network. As such, we can't even state with certainty that the iPhone supports NOM1 at all.
"GPRS network 130 can be designed to operate in three network operation modes (NOM1, NOM2 and NOM3). A network operation modes of a GPRS network is indicated by a parameter in system information messages transmitted within a cell. The system information messages dictates a MS where to listen for paging messages and how signal towards the network. The network operation mode represents the capabilities of the GPRS network. In a NOM1 network, a MS can receive pages from a circuit switched domain (voice call) when engaged in a data call. The MS can suspend the data call or take both simultaneously, depending on the ability of the MS, In a NOM2 network, a MS may not received pages from a circuit switched domain when engaged in a data call, since the MS is receiving data and is not listening to a paging channel In a NOM3 network, a MS can monitor pages for a circuit switched network while received data and vise versa. "

zorroz said:
This means that HTC Titan is not a Class C device...
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As far as I know, there isn't any class C devices on the market. Maybe your DVP is an exception but I highly doubt it.

Related

Secure Phone Calls

Hi everybody...
Can we make secure phone calls from our windows mobile phone ?
Do both the phones have to be windows phone, so that one can encrypt, transmit over cellular line and on the other hand listener can receive that encrypted line, decrypt and then listen ?
Any kind of help will be appreciated !
TIA

A regular phone call still goes through your carrier, which is automatically a voice call. That is done in the radio unit, not in Windows Mobile. On the other hand, you can try and use Skype or something in that fashion using a data connection (3G, UMTS, HSDPA etc).

Unable to recieve calls while browsing

Is anyone having a problem where calls go straight to voicemail when data is in use?
This is a serious flaw if its by design!
I'm on o2 with the latest rooted rom. Not the custom modaco one.

Well I've just found out this is a feature of 2g rather than a phone problem. You can only take calls and browse if you have 3g signal.

Maybe on O2, but I get calls coming in no matter what I am doing on my Hero with a 2G signal.
I'm on Orange.
Same on my Nokia's too.
We only have 2G at home so I know its not a 2G / 3G thing (for me at least).

Perhaps I need some different APN settings. Could someone else on o2 UK confirm whether this is a problem or not? Also if you could post your apn details?

My apologies.
You are right and i am wrong.
If browsing on 2G the call is routed to voicemail. Even if you press Home and stop browsing, the call is routed to voicemail.
It seems that only until you have tried to make an outgoing call will it kill something and accept incoming calls again.
No wonder I keep getting missed call texts from Orange.
It would appear that if the Hero is doing anything on GPRS (Weather, Mail, RSS etc) it will not accept calls.
Thats pretty crap.
My old Nokia's were not affected like this I'm sure... maybe they were and I never noticed.
if you can open a Browser window while on a call it will tell you that there is no data connection or to use WiFi.
So is this a 'feature' of the Hero or the 2G network ?

From further investigation it seems to apply to all 2g networks. I've done a bit of googling and there are a few posts about the iphone and similar issues.
I wouldn't mind if I could get a 3g signal in most places. I really hope that radio firmware gets better. Seeing as I can get 3g on o2 in a different phone at home.

Sigh, oh well... looks like people need to learn to SMS me or actually leave a message
This also explains why my TomTom used to crap out whenever I was on the phone (Nokia) sometimes... when it worked I must have been in a 3G area.

it's both phone and network dependent.
many phones do this on 2G, as there is no 2G device in the world that i am aware of that will do voice AND data at the same time.
However, due to this limitation, many networks have set up their network to forcibly terminate a data connection when a call is waiting to be routed to that phone. I don't know if it is a command that is sent to the phone that the phone has to interpret and support, or if it is simply killed from the network end.
some network/phone combos do it, some dont. it just depends on the combination of the two i think.
similar things happen on HSDPA, yet you can see the same HTC phone get forced down from HSDPA to 3G on t-mobile to accept an incoming call, but do nothing and get a voicemail on Vodafone!

Thanks for the response rhedgehog. I think if nothing else its good that people are made aware, I had no idea!
I would be interested to know whether other networks disconnect the data on the hero in order to receive calls. It would also be interesting to know whether other android handsets do the same.
My data habits have now changed. No more exchange push email - only check every 15 mins.

Data Blocking Calls?

Hi,
Anyone aware of incoming calls not getting through, e.g. going straight to voicemail, when you're browsing the web or whatever? Or is thi to be expected?
Thanks
Phil

Phil_UK said:
Hi,
Anyone aware of incoming calls not getting through, e.g. going straight to voicemail, when you're browsing the web or whatever? Or is thi to be expected?
Thanks
Phil
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GPRS/EDGE will drop calls. 3G and HSDPA, to my knowledge, won't.
Maybe you were not in the 3G coverage?

Phil_UK said:
Hi,
Anyone aware of incoming calls not getting through, e.g. going straight to voicemail, when you're browsing the web or whatever? Or is thi to be expected?
Thanks
Phil
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Its a known issue where 2g networks cant cope with active data connections and a voice call and divert straight to voicemail. 3G doesnt with the capacity.

Phil_UK said:
Hi,
Anyone aware of incoming calls not getting through, e.g. going straight to voicemail, when you're browsing the web or whatever? Or is thi to be expected?
Thanks
Phil
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the problem is that I could expect this when I am actually browsing or something but most annoying is that this does happen even when the phone is on the standby not doing anything (it must be downloading some data in the background though)
and frequency with which it drops 3g and changes to 2g and back doesn't help it in anyway... connection is very very unstable...
I guess its down to sensitivity or buggy radio rom.

i have the same problem here with eplus in germany. the normal behaviour would be, that the data flow is interrupted on incoming call and the call gets routed through. after the call ends the data connection will be set to active again. this is how my WM Phone handled calls during an active data connection. there are a lot of people with similar problems in a german forum. i thought that this is a network issue but it seems that it is a htc here related issue. If so, that would be very a major issue as the android OS and hero are build for beeing online most of the time. Anybody tried a different radio version?

chaos42 said:
i have the same problem here with eplus in germany. the normal behaviour would be, that the data flow is interrupted on incoming call and the call gets routed through. after the call ends the data connection will be set to active again. this is how my WM Phone handled calls during an active data connection. there are a lot of people with similar problems in a german forum. i thought that this is a network issue but it seems that it is a htc here related issue. If so, that would be very a major issue as the android OS and hero are build for beeing online most of the time. Anybody tried a different radio version?
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Its not a phone issue, its a network issue. Its to do with NOM1 and NOM2 and how the network prioritises calls/data.
The network should either send a request to the phone (only some phones can handle the request though) to terminate the data or the network should cancel it on their end first and then route the call through. Most networks don't seem to do this.
Changing radio version will not rectify this issue

but obviously there is something that has to be done because it potentially will affect ALL android devices if they use so much background data.
Seriously it cannot be acceptable that phone will simply not ring just because it was checking email or updating weather...

data disconnects voice

Is there away to set the data connection to NOT connect while I am on a voice call?
Every so often ill be on a phone call with a client and suddenly my data connection activates.. probably from active sync... and it drops my voice calls.
Will I have this issue if I switch to HSPA on bells new network?

has no one else experienced this?

you need a GSM phone.
CDMA is ballz.
i hate bell.

so is there not away to set the phone not to connect while its on a voice call?
Will HSPA suffer from the same thing?

None of the roms I have used allow data to disconnect voice, but works other way around.
What rom are you using?

Call forwarding/ Remote connection method

to get smart relay activated properly you must first turn on the mobile data connection on your phone then the mobile data connection on your watch. if the gear s has auto mobile data defaulted, in 60 seconds you will not have to activate it manually.
This method is to get the calls forwarded. Again, to establish the remote connection both phone and watch mobile data connections must be established. If youre connected to wifi the remote connection will not work.
Once call forwarding or remote connection has been established it is not necessary to keep the mobile data connections on either the phone or watch. The remote setup has been worked out through your cellular provider and there isn't a need to keep data on if you don't need them.
This must be done every time to get it working. I'm using both a tmobile bought gear S and note 4. It all works brilliantly.

if i have the phone and watch connected, and i receive a call, and answer it from the watch, will i speak from the phone? its easier to slide from the watch...

Hello I'm having great problems with remote connection. All I get is error message when I try to activate it. all it says is error has occurred please try again. I have note 4 and tmobile. I'm stuck and been researching for 2 days now. Any ideas?

bjh2379 said:
Hello I'm having great problems with remote connection. All I get is error message when I try to activate it. all it says is error has occurred please try again. I have note 4 and tmobile. I'm stuck and been researching for 2 days now. Any ideas?
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Redo call forwarding setup both on gear manager and watch itself
Mine takes 2-4 tries to connect but after that its flawless

It has to have remote connection first to do the call forwarding

Any ideas?

A good reset/Uninstall the apps always helps me

Yeah tried. Nothing. Now its not recognizing my sim card

i get the same error forwarding calls when moving from BT to mobile connection. although the watch shows me the notifications, it keeps the error.try again.
how do i redo the call forwarding protocol on both devices?

bjh2379 said:
Yeah tried. Nothing. Now its not recognizing my sim card
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Did ya fix it
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

No Data Plan
hughedee74 said:
to get smart relay activated properly you must first turn on the mobile data connection on your phone then the mobile data connection on your watch. if the gear s has auto mobile data defaulted, in 60 seconds you will not have to activate it manually.
This method is to get the calls forwarded. Again, to establish the remote connection both phone and watch mobile data connections must be established. If youre connected to wifi the remote connection will not work.
Once call forwarding or remote connection has been established it is not necessary to keep the mobile data connections on either the phone or watch. The remote setup has been worked out through your cellular provider and there isn't a need to keep data on if you don't need them.
This must be done every time to get it working. I'm using both a tmobile bought gear S and note 4. It all works brilliantly.
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I am nor completely clear.....are you saying that each time you know you will be leaving your phone at home, you must manually set up Remote Connection and then turn it off when you reconnect to the watch via bluetooth? I thought is was supposed to be automatic. Also, does this Remote Connection require a data plan to allow it to function? I am in Canada and none of the carriers have a "wearable plan". I just purchased a prepaid nanoSIM from Rogers and signed up for a talk & text plan but no data and I don't want to be paying big $ for data if the watch requires data to function with Remote Connection. HELP!

Rick76 said:
I am nor completely clear.....are you saying that each time you know you will be leaving your phone at home, you must manually set up Remote Connection and then turn it off when you reconnect to the watch via bluetooth? I thought is was supposed to be automatic. Also, does this Remote Connection require a data plan to allow it to function? I am in Canada and none of the carriers have a "wearable plan". I just purchased a prepaid nanoSIM from Rogers and signed up for a talk & text plan but no data and I don't want to be paying big $ for data if the watch requires data to function with Remote Connection. HELP!
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As far as I'm aware there are actually two separate issues to consider here.
1) If you turn on Call Forwarding in the Gear Manager app on your phone, then calls to your phone (using your phone number) will ring on your watch when not connected through Bluetooth (by being forwarded to your watch #). This is simply call forwarding and all you need is a watch plan that allows voice; no data plan required. You would normally use this when you want to leave the phone at home and receive calls on your watch while you're out, etc. The forwarding isnt automatic, you turn it on or off as required in Gear Manager.
2) If you have a plan that allows data (or have access to a wifi connection) then you will be able to receive texts and all notifications from your phone on your watch when connected remotely. You won't be able to receive calls in real time with only a data plan though, unless you also have a voice plan and forward calls as per #1 above. On the bright side, you will still get the missed call notification if your watch plan allows data, so while you can't answer the call you can always call them back right away. Data plans (or wifi) allow for the remote connection to your phone when out of bluetooth range. This remote connection is possible because without bluetooth, the phone and watch can only sync up through your Samsung account, which is why they need some sort of data connection. Once you've set everything up on your phone and watch, the remote connection will happen autonatically within 60 seconds of losing bluetooth connectivity.

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sefrcoko said:
As far as I'm aware there are actually two separate issues to consider here.
1) If you turn on Call Forwarding in the Gear Manager app on your phone, then calls to your phone (using your phone number) will ring on your watch when not connected through Bluetooth (by being forwarded to your watch #). This is simply call forwarding and all you need is a watch plan that allows voice; no data plan required. You would normally use this when you want to leave the phone at home and receive calls on your watch while you're out, etc. The forwarding isnt automatic, you turn it on or off as required in Gear Manager.
2) If you have a plan that allows data (or have access to a wifi connection) then you will be able to receive texts and all notifications from your phone on your watch when connected remotely. You won't be able to receive calls in real time with only a data plan though, unless you also have a voice plan and forward calls as per #1 above. On the bright side, you will still get the missed call notification if your watch plan allows data, so while you can't answer the call you can always call them back right away. Data plans (or wifi) allow for the remote connection to your phone when out of bluetooth range. This remote connection is possible because without bluetooth, the phone and watch can only sync up through your Samsung account, which is why they need some sort of data connection. Once you've set everything up on your phone and watch, the remote connection will happen autonatically within 60 seconds of losing bluetooth connectivity.
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Thanks for the clarification. I currently only have the Talk & Text plan so I will have to see how much data is used to push the information. I may have to get a data plan as well.

Rick76 said:
Thanks for the clarification. I currently only have the Talk & Text plan so I will have to see how much data is used to push the information. I may have to get a data plan as well.
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Happy to help. Also check out my post from the general thread to see my experience with trying to find a good weaeable-like plan here in Canada:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58611081

So to further ask questions about these things..
I just got the watch today and have been searching and trying to find tips on it...
If I am connected via bluetooth.. why does my watch not ring? I thought I could pretty much leave my phone in my pocket all day and do everything through the watch (receive calls and what not). I notice the "messages" app ONLY has messages in there sent from the watch itself. If I get a text message I can view it (not reply..) and it does not show up on the actual watch texts... ideas?
Thanks in advanced.

Hey all,
I just have a question. Lets assume we do have a phone with SIM-A and the Watch with SIM-B. They are connected via bluetooth and for a reason, bluetooth connection get lost. Theoretically, the calls from SIM-A should be diverted to SIM-B. Automatically. Correct?
Because, practically, I am trying this with the Galaxy S7 edge with two sims (SM-G935FD) and it is not working. I got only missed-call notification. The call is not diverted and the phone is still ringing. However, I can do it manually, which of course is not as advertised.

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