Hello fellow denizens of XDA. I've noticed that the N9 lists APT-X support for BT audio in its official specs, but it does not appear to be activated in the stock google rom. I can confirm this, because when connecting to the N9, my headphones (LG Tone HBS-730+) still can switch from High Bass, High Treble, and Flat sound modes. On APT-X connections, this feature turns off to ensure audio clarity.
With my G2, this is also the case on the LG stock rom, but it can be activated by adding the following line to build.prop
persist.service.btui.use_aptx 1
This does not work on CM11 with my G2, nor with my N9, which leads me to believe the necessary blobs to enable ATP-X are not included in AOSP/CM/Google Stock roms.
Hopefully a dev will see this and offer some thoughts, as APT-X does offer noticeably better sound over BT audio.
So you're saying that despite the feature being listed as supported, out of the box aptx does not work on the Nexus 9?
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Yup. It was the same with the LG G2. It is listed as a spec, but not enabled out of the box.
Does the Nexus 9 box packaging actually show the apt-x logo? No one has figured out how to enable it?
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I've still not been able confirm whether the N9 has aptX. Has anyone else?
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http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_nexus_9-5823.php
In the specs it says yes but I went to the aptx website and in the htc section is not yet listed
chemjb said:
http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_nexus_9-5823.php
In the specs it says yes but I went to the aptx website and in the htc section is not yet listed
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yea the apt-x website shouldn't be a reference since it updates often pretty slow.
however HTC say they have apt-x yea but its not working.
sadly logcat dont show any conclusive information anymore, no codec names only numbers, the usually ...apt..so files are missing too but that doesn't mean anything
the bluetooth.sos are on the vendor partition which is in indication that they are containing apt-x since this partition should be reserved for proprietary licensed things
Still question remains why its deactivated and is there a way to activate it, for me it was one reason (one of 4 main reasons) to buy that thing and now iam pretty pissed about it.
yes the sound quality is nice even without apt-x but problems are lags with video
bofh999 said:
yea the apt-x website shouldn't be a reference since it updates often pretty slow.
however HTC say they have apt-x yea but its not working.
sadly logcat dont show any conclusive information anymore, no codec names only numbers, the usually ...apt..so files are missing too but that doesn't mean anything
the bluetooth.sos are on the vendor partition which is in indication that they are containing apt-x since this partition should be reserved for proprietary licensed things
Still question remains why its deactivated and is there a way to activate it, for me it was one reason (one of 4 main reasons) to buy that thing and now iam pretty pissed about it.
yes the sound quality is nice even without apt-x but problems are lags with video
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I don't know that gsmarena should be trusted for accuracy on specs. Is there an official source that confirms the N9 has aptX?
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The specs on the Google Play site does not mention APT-X
Specs on HTC Websites states it. HTC support says too
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bofh999 said:
Specs on HTC Websites states it. HTC support says too
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Link?
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I enabled it by using the latest Slimroms ROM that dates from October 13, Magisk 14 and the Magisk APTX module. That worked for me and was able to confirm it by using the Catlog which shows that there is a thread working for the btif_a2dp_encoder_init Selected Codec: aptX.
evolucion8 said:
I enabled it by using the latest Slimroms ROM that dates from October 13, Magisk 14 and the Magisk APTX module. That worked for me and was able to confirm it by using the Catlog which shows that there is a thread working for the btif_a2dp_encoder_init Selected Codec: aptX.
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Which module exactly?
The one found on the very first download link of this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-oneplus-3-aptx-res-audio-t3541904
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Hello, everyone!
Now we have enough devices with aptX support (HTC One series, SGS III, SGT's, Moto Razr) and number of headphones supporting aptX is also increasing. So it would be useful to gather info on this technology. Please ask your questions here, hope this thread will be useful.
My question is - does custom ROMs (Miui, CM) supports aptX codec as it is in stock ROMs of mentioned devices? Is it integrated in Kernel, or separately in Rom?
P.S. I have bluetooth headphones senheiser PX360 BT with this technology and Moto Razr XT910.
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Hello, everyone!
Now we have enough devices with aptX support (HTC One series, SGS III, SGT's, Moto Razr) and number of headphones supporting aptX is also increasing. So it would be useful to gather info on this technology. Please ask your questions here, hope this thread will be useful.
My question is - does custom ROMs (Miui, CM) supports aptX codec as it is in stock ROMs of mentioned devices? Is it integrated in Kernel, or separately in Rom?
P.S. I have bluetooth headphones senheiser PX360 BT with this technology and Moto Razr XT910.
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I'd like to know the same (and have the same headphones) but I can never seem to get an answer.
I've started to look around in the kernel source for myself....
Bump. Interested as well.
Me too - am considering putting the SuperNexus ROM on my S3 to give me a "pure" Android experience, but not sure if going away from a Samsung based ROM will make me lose apt-x?
Apt-X whit Costom-ROM?
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I'd like to know the same (and have the same headphones) but I can never seem to get an answer.
I've started to look around in the kernel source for myself....
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gers1978 said:
Me too - am considering putting the SuperNexus ROM on my S3 to give me a "pure" Android experience, but not sure if going away from a Samsung based ROM will make me lose apt-x?
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The only way is to try it by yourself.
Play a "FLAC" file over Bluetooth with Costom-ROM.
If it is playing apt-x seems to work. If not then bull**** .
I use my Tab 7 Plus only for MP3 and I don't really need to flash a Costom like my mobil's.
But if some body try it out please tell us.
Me three. I might be going out on a limb but it's likely AptX is nothing more than a different codec and uses the same hardware as typical BT A2DP.
To gain further insight one could compare system dumps from related phones(hardware and OS) where AptX and non-AptX is the difference.
Using logcat to determine aptX connectivity
Looking into the following thread and googling a little bit I was able to determine aptX codec is being used when connecting LG HBS-730 and SGH-T999 Galaxy SIII running XquiziTv35 TouchWiz JB leak based ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917962
I used the following adb command to save a detailed logcat in a text file:
adb logcat -v long > logcat.txt
Then I just searched within the file for aptX and violà "codec type set to aptx" found. :victory:
I can also confirm aptX does not work on CM10, at least at the moment. AptX is a proprietary codec and it seems to be within the TouchWiz framework.
hitokiri.pr said:
Looking into the following thread and googling a little bit I was able to determine aptX codec is being used when connecting LG HBS-730 and SGH-T999 Galaxy SIII running XquiziTv35 TouchWiz JB leak based ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917962
I used the following adb command to save a detailed logcat in a text file:
adb logcat -v long > logcat.txt
Then I just searched within the file for aptX and violà "codec type set to aptx" found. :victory:
I can also confirm aptX does not work on CM10, at least at the moment. AptX is a proprietary codec and it seems to be within the TouchWiz framework.
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Found nothing similar to "aptx" in log on stock firmware Moto Razr XT910. Any other key words to search?
apt-x is touchwiz only for the g3. asop roms will not have it. its hard to port because its not open source.
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Found nothing similar to "aptx" in log on stock firmware Moto Razr XT910. Any other key words to search?
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Not really...
i would be awesome if some android developer could reverse engineer this i've got a Bluetooth speaker with apt-x support but my nexus doenst support it
i thought it was just an algortim so in theory every phone should be able to implement it ?
anybody works to port apt-x codec? sbc is so bad
Does anyone know where the APT-X codec is stored on TW?
I would like to experiment a little by adding that codec to a ROM that does not have it.
I have an i337 Galaxy S4.
Hi
any help from a developer welcome:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45831034
Beng
I've started a PLEDGE thread to get APT-X flashable zip for AOSP ROM's.
Please go show your support for APT-X:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531440
Out of curiosity, does Phoenix ROM (I'm at 16.7 now) have APT-X since it's still mainly Touchwiz behind?
How do I confirm this?
Call for aptX test recordings
As the list of devices supporting aptX become longer SoundExpert is going to add aptX (bluetooth) codec to its testing system. This will help to evaluate perceptual quality of the codec in comparison with SBC which is in SE ratings for a long time already.
Unfortunately the only reliable way of making aptx test recordings is using of some hardware with digital output. Also some aptX-enabled source of signal is necessary (phone, tablet, laptop …). While SE is looking for such devices I would like to ask xda-developers to help with these recordings too. Further details can be found in the article “Audio quality of bluetooth aptX” on SoundExpert site.
Tanks in advance.
[email protected] said:
As the list of devices supporting aptX become longer SoundExpert is going to add aptX (bluetooth) codec to its testing system. This will help to evaluate perceptual quality of the codec in comparison with SBC which is in SE ratings for a long time already.
Unfortunately the only reliable way of making aptx test recordings is using of some hardware with digital output. Also some aptX-enabled source of signal is necessary (phone, tablet, laptop …). While SE is looking for such devices I would like to ask xda-developers to help with these recordings too. Further details can be found in the article “Audio quality of bluetooth aptX” on SoundExpert site.
Tanks in advance.
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Welcome to XDA forums!
The thread linked below may get you some more hits on your request.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531440
CZ Eddie said:
Welcome to XDA forums!
The thread linked below may get you some more hits on your request.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531440
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Thanks, I looked through the whole thread you pointed and still have the same problem. The only thing that I need is to encode-decode some special audio sequence and it should be done with some stock hardware. The point of posting in this thread was a supposition that people here have both interest in measuring superiority of aptX over SBC and corresponding hardware/software for encoding-decoding aptX stream.
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Thanks, I looked through the whole thread you pointed and still have the same problem. The only thing that I need is to encode-decode some special audio sequence and it should be done with some stock hardware. The point of posting in this thread was a supposition that people here have both interest in measuring superiority of aptX over SBC and corresponding hardware/software for encoding-decoding aptX stream.
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Right, I was just pointing you to that thread because it would give you more eyes on your request if you post there.
If you give me step-by-step directions on how to obtain what you need, I will consider helping.
Hello all,
ok for now i'm on
CM10 4.1.2 6/1/13
kernel BLADE-CM10-201305041517
One x+ international
I tested some mod like acid audio, beat audio installer, awesome beat and many other, but it's impossible have the same "loud sound" we have on sense based rom...
why?
H2Osmose said:
Hello all,
ok for now i'm on
CM10 4.1.2 6/1/13
kernel BLADE-CM10-201305041517
One x+ international
I tested some mod like acid audio, beat audio installer, awesome beat and many other, but it's impossible have the same "loud sound" we have on sense based rom...
why?
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explained already countless times
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maxwen said:
explained already countless times
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sorry, I've read tens of different subject but nothing about this problem. I probably bad look...
Thanks for your reply
H2Osmose said:
sorry, I've read tens of different subject but nothing about this problem. I probably bad look...
Thanks for your reply
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maybe it helps if I explain it here again for the future
the issue is that HTC is not delivering JB compatible audio drivers
with stock ROMS. We rely on this closed source drivers on tegra devices.
Fortunately we found a workaround by using the ICS drivers from the HOX
but those doesnt have propper support for the special HW that we
have in the HOX+ like the speaker amplifier
Nevertheless we using the international version are pretty happy
that this workaround actually works - whereas for the AT&T version
this HTC failure leads to an actual "dead-end" since voice call
audio is not working on this device
maxwen said:
maybe it helps if I explain it here again for the future
the issue is that HTC is not delivering JB compatible audio drivers
with stock ROMS. We rely on this closed source drivers on tegra devices.
Fortunately we found a workaround by using the ICS drivers from the HOX
but those doesnt have propper support for the special HW that we
have in the HOX+ like the speaker amplifier
Nevertheless we using the international version are pretty happy
that this workaround actually works - whereas for the AT&T version
this HTC failure leads to an actual "dead-end" since voice call
audio is not working on this device
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thank you very much for the explanation. I hope so that it will help others.
I added [explanation] in the title
I actually find the audio volume very good on the CM10 and AOKP 4.1 releases for international phones. For me the big difference is running a 4.2 based rom where the volume is much lower.
Really frustratring to have a Verizon Note 2 and a Nexus 10 and can't enjoy FULL USB Audio Support. I have two DACs that work with USB Audio Recoder PRO, but I'd like to use that DACs with other apps, not just that app which isn't meant for music playback.
I asked this in the Nexus 10 forum and they said that the rom devs there just aren't interested in this feature (this is really frustrating considering there is a Nexus 7 rom/kernel [Timur?] that supports this, but not Nexus 10). I really don't want to root, unlock and go to the custom rom route with the Verizon Note 2, but the frustration is getting to me.
Any Verizon Note 2 ROMS and/or kernels provide full USB audio support such that I can take my dacs, plug them in via USB OTG, and enjoy audio not just from the USB Audio Recorder Pro App?
My dacs are Fiio E07k and Hifimediy Sabre, if it matters.
Thanks!!
pappy97 said:
Really frustratring to have a Verizon Note 2 and a Nexus 10 and can't enjoy FULL USB Audio Support. I have two DACs that work with USB Audio Recoder PRO, but I'd like to use that DACs with other apps, not just that app which isn't meant for music playback.
I asked this in the Nexus 10 forum and they said that the rom devs there just aren't interested in this feature (this is really frustrating considering there is a Nexus 7 rom/kernel [Timur?] that supports this, but not Nexus 10). I really don't want to root, unlock and go to the custom rom route with the Verizon Note 2, but the frustration is getting to me.
Any Verizon Note 2 ROMS and/or kernels provide full USB audio support such that I can take my dacs, plug them in via USB OTG, and enjoy audio not just from the USB Audio Recorder Pro App?
My dacs are Fiio E07k and Hifimediy Sabre, if it matters.
Thanks!!
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Well USB OTG works fine for me on stock and all stock based roms and it also works perfectly for me on Vanilla Rootbox, CM, and all AOSP Roms with Plasma Kernel instead of the stock AOSP kernel.
As for if it supports USB audio, I would think it might but as I don't have a pair of USB headphones I honestly cannot tell you. I have seen threads where people connected their Note 2 to their vehicle through USB OTG and had full audio but I don't know what they were running.
Something else that may be useful to you just in case none of our kernels have USB audio support, there have been quite a few reports that the N7105, AT&T Note 2, and T-Mobile Note 2 kernels work perfectly on our phone. The N7100 kernels don't of course and the Sprint kernels don't because they write to a different block. Using a Sprint kernel can cause soft, and possibly hard, bricks but using kernels from the variants listed should work just fine.
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There are quite a few posts on HeadFi about Android devices (Note2 included) and using direct output to the DAC. I don't have mine at the office to try, but here is the thread.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/1710#post_9161612
jcollier said:
There are quite a few posts on HeadFi about Android devices (Note2 included) and using direct output to the DAC. I don't have mine at the office to try, but here is the thread.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/1710#post_9161612
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Thanks, but I am well aware and participate in that thread. The problem with that is I don't see anything in there about VERIZON Note 2 and most DACs like the ones I have, nor do I see anything about roms/kernels for Verizon Note 2 that make most, if not all, DACs work with Verizon Note 2.
For example, apparently Fiio E07k is recognized and works with International Note 2, but not Verizon Note 2. Like I said, it is really frustrating to have a Verizon Note 2 and Nexus 10 and not be able to simply connect any (like the ones i have) DACs to USB OTG to the phone and use them without that USB Audio Recorder Pro app.
After getting shot down in the Nexus 10 forum, I was (Still am) hoping that someone might be able to say, "Oh yeah, so and so rom that you can get here makes most, if not all, DACs compatible without having to use USB Audio Recorder Pro."
But if that isn't the case, that isn't the case.
Thanks anyways (or in advance if anyone can help out)
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Thanks, but I am well aware and participate in that thread. The problem with that is I don't see anything in there about VERIZON Note 2 and most DACs like the ones I have, nor do I see anything about roms/kernels for Verizon Note 2 that make most, if not all, DACs work with Verizon Note 2.
For example, apparently Fiio E07k is recognized and works with International Note 2, but not Verizon Note 2. Like I said, it is really frustrating to have a Verizon Note 2 and Nexus 10 and not be able to simply connect any (like the ones i have) DACs to USB OTG to the phone and use them without that USB Audio Recorder Pro app.
After getting shot down in the Nexus 10 forum, I was (Still am) hoping that someone might be able to say, "Oh yeah, so and so rom that you can get here makes most, if not all, DACs compatible without having to use USB Audio Recorder Pro."
But if that isn't the case, that isn't the case.
Thanks anyways (or in advance if anyone can help out)
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The reason you don't see the VZW version of the Note 2 mentioned is because not many of us bother with setting up and using DACs on out phones. All the Note 2s have the exact same internals, except for the N7100 which has different radios, the only real difference is the software and what VZW chose to block.
I would suggest you try these kernels, and Roms like CleanROm ACE since it is based on the internationals stock ROM, out for yourself and see if they have the features you are looking for instead of being rude to people who try to help you.
For instance, and I don't know if this will help or not, I have DAC oversampling and DAC Direct in Plasma kernel.
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The reason you don't see the VZW version of the Note 2 mentioned is because not many of us bother with setting up and using DACs on out phones. All the Note 2s have the exact same internals, except for the N7100 which has different radios, the only real difference is the software and what VZW chose to block.
I would suggest you try these kernels, and Roms like CleanROm ACE since it is based on the internationals stock ROM, out for yourself and see if they have the features you are looking for instead of being rude to people who try to help you.
For instance, and I don't know if this will help or not, I have DAC oversampling and DAC Direct in Plasma kernel.
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I wasn't trying to be rude (my apologies if it sounded like that), but like I said, the frustration level of having Nexus 10 and Verizon Note 2 and not being able to properly use my DACs outside of USB Audio Recorder Pro App is frustrating. Doubly frustrating that nobody can point me to a kernel and/rom for the Nexus 10. And head-fi has been no help, and I did place my query there in that thread. No response.
I was hoping that I might get a first hand account of someone with a Verizon Note 2 who has a custom rom and/or kernel and is able to make this work (so I know which one to use) rather than experimenting with various combos, especially since my Verizon Note 2 is paid for by my work.
Nonetheless, your suggestion of using a ROM based on the int'l version makes sense. Plasma Kernel + CleanROM Ace sounds like it might be worth trying.
Thank you. Again, if anyone has any first hand experiences of making this work, please let me (us) know.
pappy97 said:
I wasn't trying to be rude (my apologies if it sounded like that), but like I said, the frustration level of having Nexus 10 and Verizon Note 2 and not being able to properly use my DACs outside of USB Audio Recorder Pro App is frustrating. Doubly frustrating that nobody can point me to a kernel and/rom for the Nexus 10. And head-fi has been no help, and I did place my query there in that thread. No response.
I was hoping that I might get a first hand account of someone with a Verizon Note 2 who has a custom rom and/or kernel and is able to make this work (so I know which one to use) rather than experimenting with various combos, especially since my Verizon Note 2 is paid for by my work.
Nonetheless, your suggestion of using a ROM based on the int'l version makes sense. Plasma Kernel + CleanROM Ace sounds like it might be worth trying.
Thank you. Again, if anyone has any first hand experiences of making this work, please let me (us) know.
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I'm sorry I don't have any DAC's so I can't help you but just so you know the plasma kernel is only for aosp based roms, cleanrom ace is a touchwiz rom so you can't use them together. I find it odd though that he's basically saying you can do it on an aosp kernel for the n2 when you can't find one for a nexus device, which of course has a ton of more aosp development, but Shangrila knows what he's talking about more than I do.
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I'm sorry I don't have any DAC's so I can't help you but just so you know the plasma kernel is only for aosp based roms, cleanrom ace is a touchwiz rom so you can't use them together. I find it odd though that he's basically saying you can do it on an aosp kernel for the n2 when you can't find one for a nexus device, which of course has a ton of more aosp development, but Shangrila knows what he's talking about more than I do.
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I'm not saying you can do it for sure as I do not have a pair, all I am saying is that is what options are present in the kernel. Just because the kernel devs for the Nexus haven't built the features in don't mean they can't be built in, a lot of kernel devs only include stuff they want or use. I still haven't found an AOSP kernel with ext4 support built in, I know it can be done because KT747 has/had it but I have yet to see it on the Note 2 (and I mean all the variants).
As for Cleanrom ACE the only reason I mentioned that is because he said it works fine on the international N2, if that is true then the only difference would be the rom ( meaning VZW took that feature away like they did with so many others).
Here is a screenshot of the settings in STweaks, as I said I don't know if it will work or help but the settings are present.
And OP, joshm is right. You can't use Plasma and Cleanrom together. I had assumed you would know that seeing as how you were talking a lot about kernels I assumed you had flashed quite a few for the N2 and tested it already. If you haven't you need to, the only way to find out for sure is to test it yourself.
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pappy97 said:
Thanks, but I am well aware and participate in that thread. The problem with that is I don't see anything in there about VERIZON Note 2 and most DACs like the ones I have, nor do I see anything about roms/kernels for Verizon Note 2 that make most, if not all, DACs work with Verizon Note 2.
For example, apparently Fiio E07k is recognized and works with International Note 2, but not Verizon Note 2. Like I said, it is really frustrating to have a Verizon Note 2 and Nexus 10 and not be able to simply connect any (like the ones i have) DACs to USB OTG to the phone and use them without that USB Audio Recorder Pro app.
After getting shot down in the Nexus 10 forum, I was (Still am) hoping that someone might be able to say, "Oh yeah, so and so rom that you can get here makes most, if not all, DACs compatible without having to use USB Audio Recorder Pro."
But if that isn't the case, that isn't the case.
Thanks anyways (or in advance if anyone can help out)
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Completely forgot to check back. I am, as I type this, using a DAC with my Note 2 without using an special software. Setup: Note 2, Beans 19, Latest Perseus Kernel(didn't change any of the options; In fact, I flashed it just to test this). Phone -> OTG -> Hifimediy Sabre DAC (new tiny version) -> Sennheiser HD-650's. I have tested several albums with PowerAmp and everything works as expected. I also tested this with the lastest Sabre kernel and everything worked as well. Since, you have an N10, I'll try to test that later as well.
I have previously used his "Nero" mod for my axon and with the new release of his mod "Sauron" it sounds even better. I highly recommend you axon 7 owners to check out his mods and try them for yourself.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/soundmod-ainur-audio-t3450516
senny22 said:
I have previously used his "Nero" mod for my axon and with the new release of his mod "Sauron" it sounds even better. I highly recommend you axon 7 owners to check out his mods and try them for yourself.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/soundmod-ainur-audio-t3450516
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I second this.
senny22 said:
I have previously used his "Nero" mod for my axon and with the new release of his mod "Sauron" it sounds even better. I highly recommend you axon 7 owners to check out his mods and try them for yourself.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/soundmod-ainur-audio-t3450516
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Hi,
You asked there that "Will the Sauron mod be able to fully utilize the AKM dac/amp of the Axon 7?"
Have you got confirmation, because I didn't find answer there.
If yes, could you please tell us in few sentenses what is the benefits of this mod from audiophile point of view. Just because any Nougat ROM sounds greatly. Thanks.
obladi64 said:
Hi,
You asked there that "Will the Sauron mod be able to fully utilize the AKM dac/amp of the Axon 7?"
Have you got confirmation, because I didn't find answer there.
If yes, could you please tell us in few sentenses what is the benefits of this mod from audiophile point of view. Just because any Nougat ROM sounds greatly. Thanks.
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Hi! I haven't got any answer yet but if I would describe the sound I would probably say that the bass is tighter and less "all over the place". The vocals are more detailed as in it's easier to hear things such as the singer slightly swallowing some air. The highs I'm not to sure about but I will say that the detail is really good without any fatigue. I just started using the mod yesterday so I'm not completely sure about the difference but the noticable thing are what I wrote above and that it generally sounds "better".
I compare this mod with my HD 598 and on Lineage OS. With and without the mod.
If you look at the third post, looks like there's a mod that includes DAC support. It's not available yet but it was edited two days ago saying "Soon"
senny22 said:
Hi! I haven't got any answer yet but if I would describe the sound I would probably say that the bass is tighter and less "all over the place". The vocals are more detailed as in it's easier to hear things such as the singer slightly swallowing some air. The highs I'm not to sure about but I will say that the detail is really good without any fatigue. I just started using the mod yesterday so I'm not completely sure about the difference but the noticable thing are what I wrote above and that it generally sounds "better".
I compare this mod with my HD 598 and on Lineage OS. With and without the mod.
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Thanks for your reply. Actually I thought different things, mainly technical related feature why mod would make sound quality more clear, than the factory. Is there any DAC related parameter or else what can be set or change? Or anything else what you think can be useful to understand what is the benefit of this mod.
obladi64 said:
Thanks for your reply. Actually I thought different things, mainly technical related feature why mod would make sound quality more clear, than the factory. Is there any DAC related parameter or else what can be set or change? Or anything else what you think can be useful to understand what is the benefit of this mod.
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I am just as curious as you on that point but unfortunately the only one who knows that is the creator of the mod. If you ever find something interesting though pls let me know.
senny22 said:
I am just as curious as you on that point but unfortunately the only one who knows that is the creator of the mod. If you ever find something interesting though pls let me know.
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I'll try to find more details and share it here.
obladi64 said:
I'll try to find more details and share it here.
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Thanks
This mod isn't made for Axon 7.
It aims to provide adjustments for Qualcomm, Exynos and Mediatek devices with default/integrated DAC.
There's zero mods for Axon 7 audio yet...
Sent from my Axon 7!
Luhccas-X10 said:
This mod isn't made for Axon 7.
It aims to provide adjustments for Qualcomm, Exynos and Mediatek devices with default/integrated DAC.
There's zero mods for Axon 7 audio yet...
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How do you know? It does something to sound at least because it doesn't sound the same without the mod. And also AudioFX doesn't effect the sound with the mod enabled.
Yes, it seems to change it. Still audio is the big disappointment for me on this phone. With my best iems I sometimes I prefer the sound of my tab s2...
obladi64 said:
Hi,
You asked there that "Will the Sauron mod be able to fully utilize the AKM dac/amp of the Axon 7?"
Have you got confirmation, because I didn't find answer there.
If yes, could you please tell us in few sentenses what is the benefits of this mod from audiophile point of view. Just because any Nougat ROM sounds greatly. Thanks.
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Yes, I worked with the AINUR creator on this. It DOES support.
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How do you know? It does something to sound at least because it doesn't sound the same without the mod. And also AudioFX doesn't effect the sound with the mod enabled.
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Because our device needs specific changes.
That's why took so long for a proper sound under LOS and AOSP ROMs.
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Yes, I worked with the AINUR creator on this. It DOES support.
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It is gr8. Then may be you can share some technical detail what is benefit of it, why it is better than factory of Axon 7.
Luhccas-X10 said:
Because our device needs specific changes.
That's why took so long for a proper sound under LOS and AOSP ROMs.
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Yes but there could be changes that don't affect the hardware side of things but the software. For example it could do something with the outputted data from let's say Spotify.
obladi64 said:
It is gr8. Then may be you can share some technical detail what is benefit of it, why it is better than factory of Axon 7.
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I would really like some input on what the mod actually does as well.
One observation on what it does, apart from the subjective experience of how it sounds:
I was trying out new stock version B02 for G.
With sauron installed, and playing through USB Audio Player Pro with bit perfect checked (not sure if this makes a difference when only playing through phone...) there is no difference between ordinary sound and hi-fi sound in settings.
If I uninstall sauron there is a difference again.
With sauron it sounds like an improved version of the non hi-fi setting, which is good I think, since as the hi-fi setting mostly seem to make the sound a bit v shaped, with increased and bloated bass.
// And... When playing through tidal app, with S installed, there IS a difference between hi-fi setting and non hi-fi, and interestingly the difference is much larger than it is without sauron, like two different types of sound, and the non hi-fi sound closer to what you get with UAPP, but UAPP improves it a bit.
senny22 said:
Yes but there could be changes that don't affect the hardware side of things but the software. For example it could do something with the outputted data from let's say Spotify.
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The point is: the files needed to make a difference in this modification are left untouched by these "tweaks".
The .so for AK, for example...
What it does we can do by just disable SoundFX under settings/apps.
You should try
Does this mod break The Dolby atmos Feature like The arise sounds does?
Thx
Guys i have been surfing through the xda threads for audio quality. Sadly no one much says about audio. Kindly share your experiences after using honor 9 about audio quality via headphone jack ?
It's avarage. I know they made some fuzz about the sound in the Honor 9 but it really isn't something special. Sure it's pretty clear perhaps but it lacks depth and space. Though unless you are an audiophile I guess you'll be happy with it. But Honor phones have worse sound than most other manufacturers today.
The audio from the bottom firing speak is OK but nothing to talk about. I would say that the audio from the headphone jack is probably on par with most android devices.
dannejanne said:
It's avarage. I know they made some fuzz about the sound in the Honor 9 but it really isn't something special. Sure it's pretty clear perhaps but it lacks depth and space. Though unless you are an audiophile I guess you'll be happy with it. But Honor phones have worse sound than most other manufacturers today.
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Thanks. Am using lg g6. While it is great in audio the os doesn't feel that much optimised as Emui. I have used Honor6 before and was satisfied with Emui. Guess will wait for next flagship honor phone.
sound quality is above average and on par with the HTC one M8 out of the 3.5mm jack, loudspeaker isn't that great, and i miss front facing speakers, but the on board amp is pretty poor, as for one set of my IEMs i have to really crank the volume up to get any increase out of them.
Huawei mate 10 launched
Sadly not much news for audiophiles .
Only this.
ben cherian said:
Huawei mate 10 launched
Sadly not much news for audiophiles .
Only this.
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This sounds great actually. I do hope they included a DAC at least.
itisiryan said:
This sounds great actually. I do hope they included a DAC at least.
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If they had a DAC they would have said something about audio. But I saw whole live document. Ceo said for audio lovers Lossless compatible nothing else about sound tuning nothing about DAC. Histen Huaweis own is used mostly. It sounds horrible.
I really do wonder in this booming technology of mobile why many companies forgetting the audio part tuning.? Sad...so sad
ben cherian said:
I really do wonder in this booming technology of mobile why many companies forgetting the audio part tuning.? Sad...so sad
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Because not many people are like us audiophiles. Though it's nice to see companies like LG making some efforts.
Audio quality of Honor 9
EMUI 5.1 comes with an updated Gallery app. GoPro has partnered with Huawei to bring the Quik video editing app into EMUI's Gallery. With EMUI 5.1, Quik is responsible for all Highlights and custom video edits.
The gallery defaults to a timeline, which sorts your images by the date you've taken them. The pinch gesture is available for setting thumbnail size. You can opt for the standard Album view with all of your images sorted in different albums, and you can also have hidden albums, though that's more of an organizational tool than a privacy one - they are there when you hit hidden albums.
mobilepriceshop said:
EMUI 5.1 comes with an updated Gallery app. GoPro has partnered with Huawei to bring the Quik video editing app into EMUI's Gallery. With EMUI 5.1, Quik is responsible for all Highlights and custom video edits.
The gallery defaults to a timeline, which sorts your images by the date you've taken them. The pinch gesture is available for setting thumbnail size. You can opt for the standard Album view with all of your images sorted in different albums, and you can also have hidden albums, though that's more of an organizational tool than a privacy one - they are there when you hit hidden albums.
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Ooookay what is this post for?
itisiryan said:
Ooookay what is this post for?
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He's just spamming around
pijes said:
He's just spamming around
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That's what I thought.
I think the audio can be much improved, there is potential but needs tuning/calibration. There is too much bass from the speakers and too little treble!
If bass can be slightly decreased and treble/volume increased it'll sound great.
Unsure but if something like Dolby Atmos is compatible with our Mate 9, it will enable us to have more control over sound thus improvement.