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There a lot of View 4G user like myself. Please Create a View 4G Section.
I agree
I agree with OP. Please at least put a separate section withing the Flyer section. You know like you did with the Nexus 4G? Thank you for all you do XDA...
Please, a subforum for View specific issues.
Please. I own a flyer and would get soooo pissed when a view owner would say they got netflix from the market on their "flyer"
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I fourth this request.
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Yup, view forum please...
Here here! Bring on a new View forum!
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I only agree with the OP if he means a separate subforum within the main "Flyer" forum. There is very little difference between the Flyer and View. A separate subforum for one or the other (Flyer/View) for model-specific issues would be okay. But otherwise, it fractures and dilutes the information way too much. This is how it was for the G2 and Desire Z (separate forums). If somebody found a solution for something on the G2 (that also worked on the Z), the information would take days (or maybe even weeks) to spread on the Z forum. And even then, often people would just lazily say "look in the G2 forum", and you'd have to go searching around for it. It was actually a big improvement IMO when they eventually merged the G2 and Z forums into one.
Another example, was when I was on the Tilt 2/Touch Pro 2. Things went just fine with the Tilt2 being on the same forum as the TP2. People were just good about stating which model they had. Better yet, just put your tablet model in your signature, and you never have to worry about mentioning it in your post. There are way more differences between the GSM TP2 and the CDMA one, then there are between the View and the Flyer. And all they did for the TP2 was add a subforum for CDMA-model specific issues.
For that matter, there are probably as many (if not more) differences between the WiFi-only Flyer, and the one with 3G/4G. Are we going to make a whole new forum for them, too? Don't think that's a good idea.
If people can't even get the tablet model (Flyer/View) right when they are posting, that's their own stupidity, and there is no cure for that.
^^I agree. A subforum would be more appropriate in this case.
I also agree that the View should have its own subforum in the Flyer section.
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Agreed, however
I think a separate subforum would be nice, but I think us Flyer owners would rather not lose our View toting brothers to another area of the forums!
Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
I am disagree because what is the big difference?
And I am sure that no newbie knows this difference and ask only View specific questions in this subforum and only there. We will have still View questions in the general part and non-View questions in the View subforum only because the owner has a view.
What we need is a simple approach to mention always the Flyer type - like this is organized in many other device forums here.
I think just posting something simple as [view] or [flyer] in the title of a rom or something else your posting that is device specific.
I would like a new View forum too, because it will get even more confusing if people don't completely describe their devices, and everybody says it will work, but on what device? I hope XDA will make a new forum.
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Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
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I know I already posted on this subject, but I totally agree that it would be great to see a View General sub forum in the Flyer General section and a View Development sub forum of the Flyer Development section.
As someone relatively new to concepts like S-off and rooting, it would be nice to have a place to post quedtions and get device specific answers.
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Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
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Its not rocket science, the dev should just say in the ROM description whether its for the View, Flyer, or both. If the OP doesn't say, then you ask, and either the the dev, or somebody else answers. This is how it works for every other device that I've owned.
From past experience, ROMs tend to work on all versions of a device, more so than not. If ROM Development subforum gets split up for the 2 variants, will the ROM dev be expected to post to both, if it works on both? If they don't, people will be stuck browsing both Development subforums, looking for ROMs which are compatible for their version.
Also remember the non-US 3G enabled tablet is called the flyer. I am currently running a rom for the view on my flyer, and other then the annoyance of the "missing" sim card it works fine.
IMO Simply stating View/3G or WiFi Only in the title of the rom should be more than enough. So far every fix for the flyer also works for the view. Separation is un-needed and potentially disruptive. Standardize the ROM labeling and we are golden.
Add another view owner to the /agree list for a subsection for us.
i think the forum should stay the way it is, users should be posting with the right device though it wouldnt hurt XDA devs to put HTC Flyer aka HTC Express (Sprint Evo 4g View) aka Flyer 3g aka Flyer Wifi
if people making threads cant post the correct device they shouldnt be making threads or trying to mod their devices
Oke guys, spread the word if you see it.
But i think its wise to start using prefixes [View] and [Flyer] in general section.
Since we dont have a separated Q&A.
So [Q][View] and [Q][Flyer] in General section will do.
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Whiskey
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Wilco. Thanks!
Thanks for getting this done Whiskey. Hat's off to you for the hard work
why not have our own forum?
Their hardware might be similar but the software, which is what the forum provides, is not compatible with one another, so why not a completely separate forum.
Similar to how the TMobile LG G2x and LG Optimus 2x are extremely similar but still have their own forum. I understand if the View development section was dead, but we are actually pretty lively, especially since HC got released
Who can we address this too? Im sure all my fellow Viewers agree and fell the same way
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why not have our own forum?
Their hardware might be similar but the software, which is what the forum provides, is not compatible with one another, so why not a completely separate forum.
Similar to how the TMobile LG G2x and LG Optimus 2x are extremely similar but still have their own forum. I understand if the View development section was dead, but we are actually pretty lively, especially since HC got released
Who can we address this too? Im sure all my fellow Viewers agree and fell the same way
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Well you can send a pm to svetius, but time will tell. In the mean time we have at least a seperate Development section. I will also flag it to svetius. If we have a lot of requests it might be possible
I second, How about Flyer/View for General, Accessories, etc... Development as is as it allows cross development visibility
Against.
I have several reasons for this.
1. They are no more separate devices that and Evo 3D devices or the Xoom models. Themes, accessories, applications are pretyy much universally interchangeable.
2. There is an established inter-connected community who share information.
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Their hardware might be similar but the software, which is what the forum provides
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That is only a part of what the site provides, granted it may be the part you are interested in but some are simply interested in knowing about themes, applications, accessories or just talking to other people with the same device. Why fragment the information?
To give a current personal example, if the view had a completely separate forum I wouldn't have done anything at all when the view HC update arrived because I simply would not have known about it.
So you dont own a view butvare still able to dev for it somehow?
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Evidently
Pretty rare case I must say. Most if not all other devs only support devices they own and can test with.
Lucky for us they are merged so you could write up these guides
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I second globatron's sentiments. Before I bought a few Views, I had been browsing around the BB Flyer in store and reading up on the forum here as much as I could before making an informed purchase. If it wasn't for the information I learned searching through the sections before they divided, that the View and GSM/Wifi Flyer were evidently triplet brothers, I would not have made my purchases or gained the knowledge through the information given so far between all devices.
Segregating them from the start might have been smart move to reduce newbie errors, but on the other hand it also induces a 'forgotten twin' effect for the power users and developers.
Sort of like the Desire HD and Inspire 4G, they're both nearly same yet different sections are given for both, I feel it's probably tedious for those communities because they have to switch back and forth between both sections to keep up for new development and stay on top of the game.
Too much segregation might cause more harm than good, for reaching new features, (I wouldn't have known about capacitive buttons on HC Flyer) while in the end when it just takes a simple reading comprehension and disclaimer to make sure someone don't flash/follow the wrong material.
Despite what I said, I do think the entire top level Flyer forum should be renamed Flyer/View and the General, Themes&Apps and Accessories forums likewise to reflect this twin/triplet effect.
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Despite what I said, I do think the entire top level Flyer forum should be renamed Flyer/View and the General, Themes&Apps and Accessories forums likewise to reflect this twin/triplet effect.
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this would be a simple/good solution, who do we beg or bribe to get the change?
Glad to see View has it owns section now after that fire sell.
Forum update: We got Flyer/View Forum renamed with sub-forums also, thx to Svetius for setting it up for me. We don't need a forum specific to The View, this will do well as development continues to grow then Flyer and View will receive their own sub-forums.
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Hey, Im pretty new to this forum so please be gentle!
I have made a search on the forum a few times, and had a look if I could see this specific questions posted anywhere else, and I couldnt. If anyone does see this, please feel free to link me and I will read all the posts.
I did read through the forum discussion of Galaxy S2 V Galaxy Nexus, but I just had a particular question.
I want a new Android phone, and I like the look of both of these (slightly prefere the GS2, as it has expandable storage).
Basically, I am a student studying Software Engineering and we are working on Java. I want to be more employable and teach myself more, and I enjoy programming so...
I basically want the best phone for someone who wants to develop android apps, and just wondered what everyones suggestion here would be.
If there are different phones to the ones I have suggestion, please tell me.
Thanks in advanced for all your help!
Dan
Easy. Three words. Samsung Galaxy Nexus! It IS a developer phone, and it also has a large dev community already. I can promise you it will not be a bad decision.
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Thanks for the answer!
What exactly do you mean by a developer phone? Because its stock android?
this phone is maintained by google. this is why is a dev phone ;-)
Dev 1 should be the best for begginers, GNexus should be best for whole devs. But because of density and ICS-GB-FY uncompability, you should get more than 1 phone
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Dev 1 should be the best for begginers, GNexus should be best for whole devs. But because of density and ICS-GB-FY uncompability, you should get more than 1 phone
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Id love to, but I can only afford one. Galaxy S 2 is easily in budget and is 32gig, where as the Nexus isnt and is only 16gig But I imagine most people would agree its better for devs...
Edit: Dev 1 says its been replaces bu the Nexus series...so guess that answers my question
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Sorry for posting this in the wrong section, thanks for moving it admin
I just switched to AT&T. I came from Sprint with an EVO 3D and so far it is the best decision I have ever made. I was getting .05mbps with sprint and now I am getting 3mbps and ATT says 4G is coming to my area soon. I already like the phone a lot more than the EVO too.
I am not new to rooting I probably flashed 20+ ROMS on my evo but I just wanted to ask a few questions before I make the jump.
1. This is my first GSM carrier so I am new to SIM cards. When rooting/flashing is there any concern with this?
2. If someone could please link me to the best root method that would be great
3. I always have a hard time choosing from so many ROMS. Stability is big for me. I usually dont participate in beta roms. I need everything to work. I would like a ROM that gets rid of bloatware, unlocks tethering, and adds performance tweaks like zip aligning and stuff. If someone could link me to a ROM that meets these needs that would be great as well.
4. If you have any tips or anything to give to a new SGII owner please do. I want to get the most out of my phone.
Thanks for the help in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
Has everything you need.
There are a lot of stickys in the dev section on rooting.
ROMS...
We have lots of great devs so... make a good backup a flash yourself into a frenzy and have fun ;-)
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We have a blanket rule that we dont allow "best roms" because all it seems to do it become a fanboy thread.
As always with XDA, we highly encourage that users read. This specific forum has a lot of good information written within the stickies. There are step by step walkthroughs, videos and a huge FAQ. Everything you need to know can be contained in those threads (found in the General and Development sections).
But due to a recent influx of repetitious threads all asking the same thing (for help), we have instated this policy and because of that, this thread will be closed.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to post them in the appropriate threads with the appropriate forum section. Thank you and enjoy your new Galaxy S II.
Would anyone be opposed to me going through all of the m9 forums and tracking down every kernel, rom, and mod that's compatible with the Sprint m9 and making a repository/rollup thread in the Android Development forum?
I'm asking because most people only look in the development forums for roms and kernels and not the general forum, so I'm afraid a lot of people are missing out on some great stuff.
Normally, I'd just go ahead and do it and not ask, but this isn't the old days where the forums are slow and dead and mostly just developers, so I've noticed people tend to complain about threads in the dev forums that aren't about software or mods I made/discovered myself.
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Would anyone be opposed to me going through all of the m9 forums and tracking down every kernel, rom, and mod that's compatible with the Sprint m9 and making a repository/rollup thread in the Android Development forum?
I'm asking because most people only look in the development forums for roms and kernels and not the general forum, so I'm afraid a lot of people are missing out on some great stuff.
Normally, I'd just go ahead and do it and not ask, but this isn't the old days where the forums are slow and dead and mostly just developers, so I've noticed people tend to complain about threads in the dev forums that aren't about software or mods I made/discovered myself.
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There's one HERE but it's not stickied or very active