My brother has this phone, so bear with me.
I helped him root it and installed safestrap. There is a custom ROM, but I have no idea what it is.
He calls me and says there is a security update.
Can he take it without losing root or any issue really at all?
Sorry if it's been asked thousands of times. I'm on the One for HTC.
Any devs?
The security update could be the upgrade croon nc5 to ng6. I wouldn't recommend taking it because it is buggy. There are ways to root after upgrading to ng6. IMO stay on nc5
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My brother has this phone, so bear with me.
I helped him root it and installed safestrap. There is a custom ROM, but I have no idea what it is.
He calls me and says there is a security update.
Can he take it without losing root or any issue really at all?
Sorry if it's been asked thousands of times. I'm on the One for HTC.
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Rule number one...never, ever, ever, under any circumstances, ever, take the update if you want to keep root/flashing ROMs, etc....ever.
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Rule number one...never, ever, ever, under any circumstances, ever, take the update if you want to keep root/flashing ROMs, etc....ever.
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Yeah. Same thing for my HTC, but is there an alternative?
If an OTA comes out, devs usually have a safe version.
If it's nothing, I'll tell him not to worry about it.
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Yeah. Same thing for my HTC, but is there an alternative?
If an OTA comes out, devs usually have a safe version.
If it's nothing, I'll tell him not to worry about it.
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If he is happy with his phone, I would tell him to just leave well enough alone.
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I still have not accepted any ota's. Should I update? And will I still be able to temp root? Reason I'm wondering to update is because when i talk to other people they have trouble hearing me and they say I sound muffled, and was wondering if i update it will fix that issue. Thanks in advance.
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I still have not accepted any ota's. Should I update? And will I still be able to temp root? Reason I'm wondering to update is because when i talk to other people they have trouble hearing me and they say I sound muffled, and was wondering if i update it will fix that issue. Thanks in advance.
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I'm not sure about that specific issue, but the OTA has done nothing but help I believe. It significantly boosted my battery life and doesn't close any root holes so nothing negative to worry about.
Same here. I still have root and various fixes were made with the update. But most devs still say not to update. But since HTC will be unlocking the boot loader I said what the hell and just did the updates.
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All of the developers reccomend not accepting the OTA's. However it's your phone, so do as you need too. Just keep in mind that once you update you cannot revert back.
Well, it could complicate attaining root so I simply will not accept an OTA...but with an unlocked bootloader once custom roms come out I won't give a crap about a stock rooted rom...so...given the great things I've heard about these updates I would like to accept them...but I have years of conditioning telling me not to. So I won't. I recommend nobody else does either, but, as previously mentioned--It is your phone.
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Well, it could complicate attaining root so I simply will not accept an OTA...but with an unlocked bootloader once custom roms come out I won't give a crap about a stock rooted rom...so...given the great things I've heard about these updates I would like to accept them...but I have years of conditioning telling me not to. So I won't. I recommend nobody else does either, but, as previously mentioned--It is your phone.
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Same boat.......Must....fight.....urge.
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Same boat.......Must....fight.....urge.
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Tell me about it!!!!
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I just took them. and I'm hoping it doesn't kill my ability to unlock if TeamWIN finds a way.
but I was trying to fit a wakelock issue that was killing my battery.
long story short. update didn't work either, it was something to do with battery indicator widgets and my wifi policy set to Never.
*Shrug*
I took them but I'm not taking anymore.
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I took them but I'm not taking anymore.
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yeah, sure, "I can quit whenever I want"...
daneurysm said:
yeah, sure, "I can quit whenever I want"...
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Haha
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will we have an idea when the update will be rolled out so we can delete it and not have it pushed to our phones? not sure how that works since my bolt had a custom rom from day 1. someone care to give me the skinny on OTA updates and how they affect us without custom roms and having root? thanks in advance.
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will we have an idea when the update will be rolled out so we can delete it and not have it pushed to our phones? not sure how that works since my bolt had a custom rom from day 1. someone care to give me the skinny on OTA updates and how they affect us without custom roms and having root? thanks in advance.
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If you take an OTA update you will lose root. However, you should be able to achieve it again once the devs cook up their magic. So far no one has a made an ota blocker mod, but it will come. As soon as this bad boy gets unlocked we will be golden, custom romming etc.:highfive:
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If you take an OTA update you will lose root. However, you should be able to achieve it again once the devs cook up their magic. So far no one has a made an ota blocker mod, but it will come. As soon as this bad boy gets unlocked we will be golden, custom romming etc.:highfive:
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can they auto push it though? or will i have the choice?
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can they auto push it though? or will i have the choice?
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You will have a choice so you can choose to ignore. The bad thing it will remind you a lot.
My Note 2 killed your phone.
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You will have a choice so you can choose to ignore. The bad thing it will remind you a lot.
My Note 2 killed your phone.
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well hopefully that will be solved before it actually happens.
Lol oh snap ota already I should of backed up all that bloat I erased. .. oh well something will get done by then
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No no no. This was hypothetical. I have no idea when it is. Lol
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Freeze SDM 1.0 with a app like Titanium and you wont have to worry about ota updates installing.
Learn something everyday Thanks for that tip
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I am on an me7 build and it is still trying to push me an update. Any word on what this one might contain?
Could be a root patch. Avoid it like a plague. If you take it and lose root, you're on your own.
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I am on an me7 build and it is still trying to push me an update. Any word on what this one might contain?
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Just checked my wife's phone. She's on ME7, 100% stock, unrooted and there is NO update available.
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Just checked my wife's phone. She's on ME7, 100% stock, unrooted and there is NO update available.
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Not everyone gets the update at the same time.
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I froze SDM.APK, so no update for me
Oh i'm for sure not going to let it update lol. I just wondered if anything significant was supposed to be coming with the next patch/ota
Are you serious. Verizon. Grrr
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I won't update until I know what it is but you guys are grossly overestimating Verizon's speed of addressing these things.
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Either a mistake, or funky timing. That is unless Samsung and VZW have banded together to lock this device down with extreme prejudice. Seems too fast of a reaction time for that. All of their people were off when root happened- Unless they have a weekend warrior strike force!
I really doubt this is to patch root, but i am for sure not going to be the one to find out Thats way to fast of an update to just patch a root exploit, i wonder what the update is really for
Both of the known exploits are well known to Samsung and have been known about since before ME7 was released. You're making it sound like they put this update out in reaction to the program that was just recently put out to take advantage of one of the known exploits. Do we even know for sure there is an update? Is it confirmed by more than one person? What version is it?
Pics or it's fake
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Pics or it's fake
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Exactly. Has any one else seen this update? Just checked my wife's phone again, and still nothing.
Nothing here.
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Weekend warrior strike force. Lol but seriously they a can work from home you know. They can call people in. That's what they get paid for. Its in their job description.
As soon as Dan or whoever spoke about the 2 exploits that were working but tried to keep it secret from the masses Verizon and Samsung were hard at work on this. They are smarter than anyone here. And that is in no way a jab at anyone here. They are where they are for a reason.
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So I connected it to my computer and checked through verizon's upgrade thing and says up to date.
So a mistake then. No harm no foul. Easy to say that in jest with sdm.apk frozen
agreed.. pic or fake
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Waste of a thread
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I guess it might have just been a fluke. I should have taken a screenshot but it didnt really give me any pertinent information in the upgrade message ao i figured it would be pointless. Lemme see if i can make it happen again. Im a flashaholic anyways. Maybe i can get it to download without flashing.
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
Agree
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. If anyone has any information about this that would be awesome!
I hope soon - with over $5k in bounty, it shouldn't take long. LOL
It better be soon because I'm so sick of not having TWRP lol. 5k bounty should be more than enough!
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Agreed.
I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I came from an iPhone 5 too and tbh I'm glad I did I love this phone and I was on MDK when I got it but I updated like a dumbass. Not knowing that I had just sealed my fate for ever having custom ROMs and recovery. Oh well.
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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ahh damn that sux sry that happend lol. soo much for that idea i guess lol T_T what about restoring it to factory settings like through the option on the phone itself? Will it just like reset and wipe everything but not rollback the version? Thanks for your response and with the bounty being so high and they managed to get a root for it pretty quickly i really hope they can unlock the bootloader so we can put custom roms on it soon :/
Useless thread...
Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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You do realize an exploit similar to Loki would do the same thing an unlocked bootloader can do?
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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Ownage. said:
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
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In an attempt to answer the question, I've been following this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384222&page=23), but I haven't seen any updates on the last few pages.
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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It's just as likely as the oceans completely evaporating overnight.
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The best we can hope for out of future updates is that they have a vulnerability that's easier to find than whatever's still waiting to be discovered in ME7 (if any such vulnerability is hiding there).
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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the motos got unlocked over 6 months after release, and that was considered by many to be completely impossible. Seeing this phone is more popular I think the chances are better, just will take time!
I put in an RMA with Negri electronics, and they're going to exchange mine for an MDK phone. Really should have done my research before updating...
I noticed that most carriers have updated their M8s to the 1.54.x software, the one that includes the Extreme Battery saver and some camera mods....wondering if anyone knows if AT&T will update us any time soon?
I'm waiting for this update before I dive in and unlock/root/s-off my phone, but it's getting hard. I know you can flash an OTA after unlocking, et. al, but I really don't want to have to go through that process.
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I noticed that most carriers have updated their M8s to the 1.54.x software, the one that includes the Extreme Battery saver and some camera mods....wondering if anyone knows if AT&T will update us any time soon?
I'm waiting for this update before I dive in and unlock/root/s-off my phone, but it's getting hard. I know you can flash an OTA after unlocking, et. al, but I really don't want to have to go through that process.
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just install one of the 1.54 roms in the att section, same thing basically
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just install one of the 1.54 roms in the att section, same thing basically
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Not yet. Seeing too many issues in those threads. Stock is the best ROM for now imho.
Has to go through their bloatware adding process...lol..itll be a bit till we see it...
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Not yet. Seeing too many issues in those threads. Stock is the best ROM for now imho.
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Omg I needed that laugh after work today.
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I noticed that most carriers have updated their M8s to the 1.54.x software, the one that includes the Extreme Battery saver and some camera mods....wondering if anyone knows if AT&T will update us any time soon?
I'm waiting for this update before I dive in and unlock/root/s-off my phone, but it's getting hard. I know you can flash an OTA after unlocking, et. al, but I really don't want to have to go through that process.
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ive been informed that Android 4.4.3 will come with the 1.54.xxx.x build soon but no exact date has been made for the device, its also coming to the rest of major carriers. along with the M7
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I noticed that most carriers have updated their M8s to the 1.54.x software, the one that includes the Extreme Battery saver and some camera mods....wondering if anyone knows if AT&T will update us any time soon?
I'm waiting for this update before I dive in and unlock/root/s-off my phone, but it's getting hard. I know you can flash an OTA after unlocking, et. al, but I really don't want to have to go through that process.
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I don't know about waiting. AT&T may try to close the loopholes for gaining S-Off and root and pass those "improvements" along to us in the firmware/update.
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Omg I needed that laugh after work today.
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Meh, that's my opinion.
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I don't know about waiting. AT&T may try to close the loopholes for gaining S-Off and root and pass those "improvements" along to us in the firmware/update.
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True, but even if I don't wait, I could possibly loose root if I go to that update, right?
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True, but even if I don't wait, I could possibly loose root if I go to that update, right?
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True, but that would probably be fixed by developers very quickly. S-Off, on the other hand, would probably be a nightmare to fix. Just a guess, though as I have no idea what went into the process.
I unlocked the bootloader, S-Off'd, and rooted the minute I got home with it. I'm still on the stock ROM with a couple of mods like the red text and removed carrier iq.
It's your phone and whatever you decide is all that matters. Enjoy it for what it is.
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True, but even if I don't wait, I could possibly loose root if I go to that update, right?
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If you unlock bootloader and soff there is nothing they can ever do to block you from rooting. When you said you didn't want to go through the hassle of upgrading firmware after unlocking, it is faster and only one command to do it. As for your opinion, that is fine, but how can you have an opinion on roms if you haven't even tried one? It's just like everything else in life, for every post with someone having a problem, there are 100 people who are having no problems at all. I don't know if you are new to this but I guarantee you that almost every Rom out there is better than the stock bloated, carrier iq, feature missing at&t Rom. If you plan on unlocking in the future I promise there is no reason to wait. You will not miss out on anything except for the chance of soff.
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If you unlock bootloader and soff there is nothing they can ever do to block you from rooting. When you said you didn't want to go through the hassle of upgrading firmware after unlocking, it is faster and only one command to do it. As for your opinion, that is fine, but how can you have an opinion on roms if you haven't even tried one? It's just like everything else in life, for every post with someone having a problem, there are 100 people who are having no problems at all. I don't know if you are new to this but I guarantee you that almost every Rom out there is better than the stock bloated, carrier iq, feature missing at&t Rom. If you plan on unlocking in the future I promise there is no reason to wait. You will not miss out on anything except for the chance of soff.
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Cool, that's awesome news! Thank you. I had the m7 before this and ran many Roms, so yeah, I know what I like and I know what specific features I like and right now, I think that stock is where it's at, despite the several 100mbs of bloat. I will not say that sense based Roms won't ever compare, because they will and they will surpass my expectations as usual.....and likely soon, at least that was my experience with the m7. I ran stock for about three months before I felt that another sense based Rom could compare to my personal liking.
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ARHD5.0 rom with ElementalX kernel is pure butter.
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Cool, that's awesome news! Thank you. I had the m7 before this and ran many Roms, so yeah, I know what I like and I know what specific features I like and right now, I think that stock is where it's at, despite the several 100mbs of bloat. I will not say that sense based Roms won't ever compare, because they will and they will surpass my expectations as usual.....and likely soon, at least that was my experience with the m7. I ran stock for about three months before I felt that another sense based Rom could compare to my personal liking.
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for the record , not the space bloat takes up its the memory and processing power while running in background
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for the record , not the space bloat takes up its the memory and processing power while running in background
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I have seen that, but it hasn't affected performance for me. I see how that is irritating though. I'm going to dive in, unlock, root and perhaps remove some of those apps that I don't use. Really, the only one I like is Isis.
PS- Which thread did you find the info for installing OTA firmware? I couldn't seem to find it...
AND, did you use firewater to S-OFF? Seems to be the only option, I guess
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AND, did you use firewater to S-OFF? Seems to be the only option, I guess
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S-OFF now with firewater. Wooo
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S-OFF now with firewater. Wooo
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Nice!
finally s-off today with firewater, figured i better do it now before they update and we cant.
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finally s-off today with firewater, figured i better do it now before they update and we cant.
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Heck yeah! That was my thought too after reading some of the replies here. I S-Off'd right away on the M7, but that was different because there was a method to do it without going through HTCDev, but not so much for us AT&T M8 users, at least that I have seen/tried. Oh well.