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I bought the Logitech FreePulse BT headphones about a year ago and have been in love with them ever since. The fit and design aren't that great, and it doesn't have buttons for changing the songs. However, all of this is made up for by the amazing sound quality.
I have been using them religiously ever since...with my laptop, desktop (with the provided receiver) and Touch Cruise.
I decided it was time to upgrade, and get something that had what these dont; buttons for changing the songs, a mic, and the ability to switch between calls and music; all with good sound quality.
A friend recommended the Motorola s9's. I tried them, and absolutely hated them. I loved the features that they had, and I loved how lightweight they were...but the sound quality was so bad -- it was tinny, no bass at all, crackly, and hollow...like something I would expect from a pair of headphones that come free with another product.
I returned those, and then purchased the Motorola HT820's on ebay. These were a bit heavier, but I liked the fit better. These also had the buttons for switching between songs, and had a mic for calls too. However, they suffered from the same issue as the s9 - absolute crap sound quality.
I have been checking out alot of different reviews for other products, and am stuck. People never seem to agree about anything, and the reviews are always mixed.
So, I'll ask you guys here at XDA..
What do you think the best quality BT headphones are, that also have a mic, and remote control buttons?
Are there any studio quality monitors like ultimate ears that use bluetooth a2dp / handsfree?
Thanks in advance for your posts...I hope I can find something decent
Has anyone experience with the motorola s705 soundpilot in combination with the touch cruise?
Jabra bt320s: imho this is the best; buyed from ebay.co.uk 1 month ago and no problems at all:
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/UK-UK/products/Pages/JabraBT320s.aspx
bye.
Plantronics
I have plantronics 665 & with BTArouter its great but no a2dp,
Check the plantronics 855 it should be the best BT headset exist.
i bought a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 and its just perfect,
Basses are deep, and sound quality is just like my PC Speakers(logitech 5500 digital...)
Really cool !
g0r3t3x said:
i bought a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 and its just perfect,
Basses are deep, and sound quality is just like my PC Speakers(logitech 5500 digital...)
Really cool !
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Me too!
surgex0 said:
I bought the Logitech FreePulse BT headphones about a year ago and have been in love with them ever since.
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Ha, I thought I was the only one. The Logitech simply are amazing in terms of sound quality, bar none. I just wish they had the AVCRP and handsfree profiles and I could deal with the fit issues and the fact that its kinda bulky. Honestly, I can't say anything is better and I've tried many. Unless Sony has vamped up its game in the last 6 months, they don't compete at all...although maybe the SonyEriccson line is better (althought I got into A2DP to avoid tangled wires, so earbud form factors are not an option for me). I have high hopes for the Jabra BT8030 though and may pick them up one day as an addition to my current A2DP headphones. The BT8030 certainly looks like it has awesome sound.
I personally use Samsung SBH-170 mainly bc of their convenience and small size. The sound was better than everything else I had tried, but nowhere near the FreePulse. FYI the FreePulse is the only headset that you could turn the Bluetooth A2DP thoroughput/bandwith all the way up on the PC w/o any stuttering.
Thanks sonus, those samsungs look really nice
However, I have given up and am stuck with the freepulse for now..
All the ones i've tried from best buy \ circuit city suck compared to those, sound quality wise. I do agree that the fit is not the best, and others are way better, but since I'm a musician \ producer my main concern\priority in the end will always be sound quality.
I would try to order some online; but alot of places don't like people returning things and then they take a month to refund your card, etc. :-\
I saw some real good ones on ebay a couple weeks ago, but I forgot what they were called. They were labled as professional audio quality, so I'm gonna check into those for now I guess.
I still have a2dp issues with the freepulse + polaris tho..like lag, skips, weak signal, etc. Do you have the same problem sonus?
No, I don't have any serios A2DP problems, although maybe once every 15min I might get a skip. Have you tried editing the A2DP settings in the registry?
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/BitPool
Reduce this value to lower the standard bitpool that is used the majority of the time
30-40: Medium audio quality
48: High audio quality
58: Excellent audio quality
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/MaxSupportedBitPool (Default=64)
Reduce this value to lower the maximum bitpool that is used when your MP3 player encounters high bitrate songs. I'm guessing that since you are a musician and since you probably have high quality mp3s, this value might be your issue. Try lowering this before reducing the bitpool setting.
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/UseJointStereo
0=Real Stereo
1=Joint Stereo
Turn your bluetooth off then on to make the changes take effect. Lower values will also give you better battery life, and reduce processor usage while a2dp is being used.
Thanks very much for the info..i changed both values to 50 and turned on true stereo (I can't believe joint stereo was enabled by default -- YUCK!) It seems to have helped..
I just listened to four songs in a row using core player and I only got 3 skips..believe it or not that is a big improvement
But the problem when coreplayer is playing and i press the power button it still skips for 2-3 seconds every time.
It's better, but I still am kind of suspicious because my laptop and desktop have 0 skips at all, no problems whatsoever...but i guess mobile devices are different sooo..yuh..I'm somewhat content now at least =]
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But the problem when coreplayer is playing and i press the power button it still skips for 2-3 seconds every time.
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It might be that HTC underclocks our devices when the power button has been pushed. So try a lower bitrate, experiment with a value like 45 or even 40 to see if the music quality is audibly degraded, you should get no skipping at that point.
yeah, it definately has something to do with the bluetooth settings too because when i have the audio adapter connected (Wired) to my car's aux i can push the power button all day long and no skips, and really no skips when playing songs at all in core player...maybe when a notification comes up but thats to be expected i guess
I bought this BT headset, works perfect with the TC and not expensive:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/a15-3-5mm-Stereo...ryZ80085QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Now im using a motorola H3. It's really cool. Now i'm looking for a stereo one. Could you please tell me which type should i buy? BT 1.1,1.2,2.0?
V Three BTH-18
I bought the V Three BTH-18 Bluetooth Headset from expansys and I have to say that it's working very well. No problem pairing, answering or making calls with voice speed dial. Also it's very small!! (Mind you, I've not tested it with programs like coreplayer, etc, for music or movies...! I suppose I'm not interested in that feature)
And there's another one:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&productId=8198552921665400453&langId=-1
I don't know if anybody tried it. I have a choice now of getting Sony Ericsson DS980 or this new Sony bluetooth. Looking for a feedback about this device, but can't find it. Maybe someone can share his experience with this toy? Thanks!
I think these are the best I've ever heard
the Sony DR-BT22 they fit perfect on the ears sound quality is awsome ....I know that I have a Kaiser but stereo headsets work with all devices.
Peace
mike
I bought I-tech Clip D Radio! Work awesomely!!!
BT2.0 if possible as that should theoretically support higher bitrates. The vast majority of stereo headphones are BT 1.2 however. For the most part newer 1.2 headphones will work just fine.
I have a Nokia BH-503. I think it's great (good sound, easy to use controls for music and calls, and very comfortable).
Only problem is that after I turn it off, when I turn it on, even though it reconnects in phone mode automatically, I have to manually reconnect for music. I think this is a problem with other headsets as well though.
Hi,
I have had a HTC Dream for about 3 - 4 months and so far i've tried two bluetooth headsets with it.
Dell BH200 Bluetooth Headset
Pros: Awesome Music Quality, Comfortable
Cons: On answering a call it would disconnect and shutdown, making it useless for that purpose.
Motorola S9 Bluetooth Headset (My experience, not sure about in general)
Pros: Also has good music quality, Allowed me to answer calls, good call audio quality,
Cons: Not too comfortable but manageable, I heard (and experience) that it does not do well with moisture (sweat, etc), and most important of all it tends to stutter constantly. If i am streaming music (Over Pandora for instance) it stutters to the point of being unlistenable. Sometimes it has bouts of clear playing but no longer than 60 seconds. With WIFI off as is usually recommended, it's a little better as in the stuttering happens at 0:45 - 1:30 minute intervals.
So after this very lengthy explanation here's my question: Is there a bluetooth headset on this earth that will do at least the following:
- Play stereo music of at least decent quality over A2DP (Willing to compromise on quality for functionality)
- Be able to answer calls
- NO STUTTERING!!! even if only with wifi off. I can deal with having to turn wifi off but when it's already off and it still happens it's kind of annoying.
Thanks for any help i receive in advance and i do appreciate your feedback.
I've had good luck with both Jabra's BT3030 and Sony's DR-BT140Q headsets. The BT3030 is a dogtag-like device on a chain into which you can plug any standard headset. The DR-BT140Q is a more traditional all-in-one set with earpieces that rest against the outside of the ear.
I get almost no stuttering on either set with Wi-Fi turned off. The sound quality is good with both, though the BT3030 is better, with deeper bass. I've had the BT3030 for a few months and have had no problem answering calls. I've been using the DR-BT140Q for only a few days and haven't had any calls come through when I've been using the set, so I can't say how it will work. But I don't anticipate any problem, based on how well everything else is functioning.
Hope that helps!
I'm using an iTech R35. It's a small thing with a mic, buttons and a 3.5mm jack.
Once in a while (2 to 3 times an hour) i gets a small lag but it very rare. Works greta for both music and phone call. I'm using sennheiser px200 with it or my blackberry bold 9000 headset.
I'm using a Jabra BT320S and it works very well.
No problems taking calls, pretty decent audio quality (even with original earbuds), and almost no stuttering with WiFi off.
I know these are a bit old now, but I would imagine that whatever Jabra replaced them with would probably be ok too.
Hope this helps.
Just bought a Jabra BT3030 today and VERY impressed with it so far.
I have experienced absolutely no stuttering so far and all the buttons work perfectly.
The sounds quality is very good with some really good bass added to it which I always found lacking with the wired headset.
I also like it as it can be used with normal headphones if I wish, although the included earphones are very good... and most important of all... it looks cool!
Phil
Jawbone Icon
Ok I have have a few BT headsets with my G1:
Plantronics 855 - excellent noise canceling and stereo, the ear loop was rather brittle and broke on me. I lost it . . . . highly recommend
Plantronics 655 - worthless, no wait . . . I can ebay it.
BlueAnt Z8i - had to reconnect after each recharge, low audio levels, callers that were used to the 855 complained about background noise, when it got run over I smiled
Jawbone Icon - Wow I have had it for a week and I love it, it stays connected, it is loud and clear, the noise cancellation is almost as good as the 855 (I thought it would be better than the 855 because of the Jawbone name). It has caller ID (number only, but hey not bad). It took a week to get invited to the MyTalk website, but I love the Dial2Do app (just a shortcut using the multifunction button to direct dial the service as far as I can tell). Still playing with Dial2Do, but I think I am going to load the voice dial app next. Only 1 week, but I am still finding little supprises.
I was on the fence and almost got the voyager pro, I have never seen a bad review of that one. It came down to the fact that I keep it in my pocket and I figured that I would break it quickly.
It is amazing what a BT aficionado one can become when the ear speaker on you G1 dies. . . .
free memory?
Before you shell out big bucks on a new headset, how much free memory do you have? I have a cheap southwing 202 ($20 from eBay) but it works just fine when i have more than 20mb of ram available. Running widgets and unused processes take ram away from big programs like pandora. Get a task manager from the market and clear up some ram, then see if that helps first.
Wow,
I apologize for not responding earlier. A few days passed and so i kinda assumed that i wasn't going to get a response. I appreciate all of the replies.
And now my very late responses:
@Highvista thanks for the recommendation. I may actually consider the BT3030.
@benoitb85 thanks for the recommendation but due to it's similarities to the BT3030 i may just get that instead.
@Stooby couldn't find the Jabra BT320S at first. May just have to look harder ^_^;;
@philje123 hah thanks that kinda reinforced my opinion of the BT3030.
@LiquidCool1 wow this has to be one of the most varied reviews of all. I appreciate the variation and it gave a few choices to look at ^_^.
@Bigt2003 Yeah, i'm pretty paranoid on my phone when it comes to RAM so i keep a vigilant watch on the running apps. but it's strange as the BH200 worked fine but the Moto S9 didn't .... figure it's just the headset.
Thanks for all your help and i'll let you guys know how it turns out ^_^.
im running a crappy nokia bh-601 and it works great when im at home or in the car (aka stationary) it gets.... i dont wanna say choppy. lets say the lyrics go "living is easy with eyes closed" (yes good song) if im walking/ jogging it will cut out at certian moments but continue the song on point ie. living is.............easy with eyes...........closed.
i should also note that this doesn't happen with calls
SK01
I bought SK01 bluetooth headset for 20$ on ebay and I've shown them to all my friends, so far 5 people have bought them..
highly recommended!
link:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Comfortable-Blue...uetooth_Wireless_Products&hash=item335ca87255
totally comfortable, loud and clear, and it fits in helmets for the ski/snowboarders out there!
best 20 bones you'll spend!
PS, I've owned the motorola s9 set and it sucked, 2 pairs I went thought... My ears hurt and they die if show water to them... sport my ass.
I went out like 20+ times snowboarding with this set in my helmet and in -20 degree C.. never a problem...
They seem to work best on 2.1 roms... not sure why, 1.6 roms will work but after answering a call you might need to power them off and back on to get the music to stop skipping... they work like a charm in 2.1 roms tho..
EnjoY!
I got samsung sbh 500 - despite design disadvantages (must worry about two plastic elements that just like to disappear) it's one of most "well-sounding" headset - especially for music (I've tested plenty of them including almost all jabras)
I bought a pair from an ebay seller called "artyguru" (hxxp://stores.ebay.co.uk/Artyguru-Superstore) Brand I'd never heard of: "Bluedio" model number AV890, They cost about $10 (delivered) and I was amazed by how GOOD they sounded when paired to my G1. My son was jealous, so I bought HIM a second set, to use with his iPhone 3GS. Again, great music quality. The (tiny) BT module features two buttons, and two "rocker switches" - "Take Call" and "Play/Stop" buttons, and "vol+/-" and "advance/regress track" for the two-way rockers. One of my better EBay investments!
juerujin said:
Hi,
I have had a HTC Dream for about 3 - 4 months and so far i've tried two bluetooth headsets with it.
Dell BH200 Bluetooth Headset
Pros: Awesome Music Quality, Comfortable
Cons: On answering a call it would disconnect and shutdown, making it useless for that purpose.
Motorola S9 Bluetooth Headset (My experience, not sure about in general)
Pros: Also has good music quality, Allowed me to answer calls, good call audio quality,
Cons: Not too comfortable but manageable, I heard (and experience) that it does not do well with moisture (sweat, etc), and most important of all it tends to stutter constantly. If i am streaming music (Over Pandora for instance) it stutters to the point of being unlistenable. Sometimes it has bouts of clear playing but no longer than 60 seconds. With WIFI off as is usually recommended, it's a little better as in the stuttering happens at 0:45 - 1:30 minute intervals.
So after this very lengthy explanation here's my question: Is there a bluetooth headset on this earth that will do at least the following:
- Play stereo music of at least decent quality over A2DP (Willing to compromise on quality for functionality)
- Be able to answer calls
- NO STUTTERING!!! even if only with wifi off. I can deal with having to turn wifi off but when it's already off and it still happens it's kind of annoying.
Thanks for any help i receive in advance and i do appreciate your feedback.
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These problems are not necessarily with the BT device. There are some serious issues with BT on the Dream (all Android mostly) CM and TeamDouch has solved most of these issues with CM6.
I have the Jabra BT3030. With a little bit of hacking you can get this BT Necklace. It sounds great. Answers and stays connected. Very little skipping (unless in a 2.4Ghz busy area, lots of wifi, mobile wireless phones, wireless mouse...) I use to have pitch problems. When the phone was CPU busy, the music pitch would get higher and lower. (Well documented on Google) Since CM6 I rarely have problems with BT.
Where you are is important.
I've use an Altec 903 and Motorola S705 and had very different results.
The Altec sounds pretty good. But if I get away from anything around me, like in a parking lot, running outside, even walking in the gym away from any equipment or walls, it cuts out a LOT. It seems to need something to reflect off of, or I need to wear the G1 above elbow height. Armbands are good.
The Motorola is rock-solid, scary so. But sound quality is marginal.
Run a 2.2 ROM and use the DSP Manager to get some bass into it, and mild compression if you can bear it.
Hello
I'm thinking about buying bluetooth headphones for my Touch Pro 2. So far the only one bluetooth audio device which i used was BH104 from Nokia but it wasn't for listening to music but for talking - so the quality of sound was very bad.
I would like to don't have a cable connected to rhodium in my pocket - so bluetooth headphones could be good for me. For example this one : http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Mobile/ee-uk/Products/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx Anyone used this or other similar headphones with rhodium, blackstone or similar device? I would like to know something about sound quality. Is it better or the same like from Creative EP630 which i use now? What about battery usage with bluetooth headphones?
Any opinion would be good for me, so please post
Thanks
Nobody know?
I don't have any experience with the headphones you mentioned, but I have the Moto S9 HD's and they're pretty great.
I use the jabra bt3030. it's okay, but due to the design, has no noise cancellation and picks up wind and background noise during a call.
Note, the bt3030 are not really headphones, but a small dog-tag looking adapter for any 3.5mm headphones you like. the included chain is too long for comfortable use and the detachable clip is a bit flimsy. i use them primarily with retractable cable over the ear headphones from sony to listen to music and generally just have the bt3030 dangling from the headpones at whatever length is comfy. sound is good, using with video can be a bit much if you're watching divx or similar heavy codecs.
Firstly, thanks for info's. Yes, i know that i can connect every headphones to bt3030. I have headphones to connect, all i want is the wireless listening to the music. So if the bluetooth connection is good, then sound quality will be good too. I just wanted to know about dog-tag. How about bass level with it?
Thunder Blade said:
Hello
I'm thinking about buying bluetooth headphones for my Touch Pro 2. So far the only one bluetooth audio device which i used was BH104 from Nokia but it wasn't for listening to music but for talking - so the quality of sound was very bad.
I would like to don't have a cable connected to rhodium in my pocket - so bluetooth headphones could be good for me. For example this one : http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Mobile/ee-uk/Products/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx Anyone used this or other similar headphones with rhodium, blackstone or similar device? I would like to know something about sound quality. Is it better or the same like from Creative EP630 which i use now? What about battery usage with bluetooth headphones?
Any opinion would be good for me, so please post
Thanks
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I use sony hbh ds 980 stereo bluetooth headphones and they work great. you wear a necklace which has two ear buds on a wire. on the controller you can see who is calling, scroll through contacts, call history and use voice command. as far as music there is a volume rocker, track forward and back, play/pause. Music comes through loud and clear as does calls. I never had any complaints as far as people hearing me either. the batterey lasts a full day of heavy usage. Let me know if you have any questions.
I use the Sony HBH-DS970 and it's AWESOME! I've had it for many years, used it first with my Touch Pro, now with the TP2. The battery is getting weak though, when I first got it it lasted for about 6 hours now it's about 3. When I get a new one I'm gonna get the new version (HBH-DS980). Both versions have great features: Caller ID, separate volume controls for calls & music, you can pause/play, skip (forward, & back) music & videos, The "call" button on the cord not only lets you take and end calls but it also lets you access "Voice Command" which is great. Oh, and it pauses your music when calls come in & starts it again when you're finished. These are "stereo" headsets and the sound is incredible, deep bass and all. They come with VERY soft in-ear "buds" that you won't mind wearing all day (different sizes) VERY comfortable. I can't say enough good things about this headset. The only bad thing I guess would be that it doesn't have replaceable batteries. Oh, one other thing, if you are overclocking your device make sure to disable whatever overclocking program you're using before connecting & using the headsets (that causes all kinds of issues and freezes when you're pausing & playing; among other things, not quite sure why). When you're done with the headset you can turn overclocking back on.
P.S. DO NOT buy this off of eBay! I did that to save money, they are fake, they last for about two months then fall apart. When I got the "real" one I could NOT tell them apart even though I knew which one was the "real" one, those fakes are that good. Get it from amazon or somewhere you already trust.
bluetooth headset
I have been using the
Rocketfish™ Mobile - RF-MAB2 High-Definition Stereo Bluetooth Headphones
Model: RF-MAB2 SKU: 9246862 (Best Buy USA)
for the past several months with my HTC TP2 and have really enjoyed them. Primarily for music but they are also a good phone headset as well.
life is so much better without wires. check them out & enjoy.
I use the Plantronics Backbeat 903, they work amazing for both music and call quality...I've experienced with MANY good bluetooth headsets, they ALL at times fail with in call quality...from motorola, jawbone, plantronics...Ive never purchased the cheap sets, and regardless, theyre bound at some point to have an occasional call where the other party mentions some sort of weirdness to the call quality...the Backbeats have had very few instances of this...they're "considered" multipoint as they can be sync'd to multiple devices, but only for music, they do not have "true" multipoint, as the jawbone does, to handle calls to two phones simultaneously...regarding the music playback quality,...amazing
swaters3 said:
I use sony hbh ds 980 stereo bluetooth headphones and they work great. you wear a necklace which has two ear buds on a wire. on the controller you can see who is calling, scroll through contacts, call history and use voice command. as far as music there is a volume rocker, track forward and back, play/pause. Music comes through loud and clear as does calls. I never had any complaints as far as people hearing me either. the batterey lasts a full day of heavy usage. Let me know if you have any questions.
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+1 as I'm happy with mine too. However, this question had ever existed and discussed before
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
DigitalSileR said:
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
Boss428man said:
Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
kkozma said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
bigunzec said:
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.
I know the hardware should be capable, and I feel like I'd be happy with it if it didn't have **** drivers, but what can I do about that?
I had a Galaxy S3 on Sprint, replaced it with an LG Optimus G. Had to get off Sprint's network so grabbed a pair of these on AT&T. I wasn't interested in waiting on the One.
I bought it because I needed a phone and it felt good in my hand. I was never sure who's hands they designed the S3 for... but that's neither here nor there... I never imagined the fastest Tegra3 would be slow, or that the audio would be so horrible.
Do I just have bad phones? We have two phones, and the slowness is not limited to mine.
All audio (bluetooth or 3.5mm, streaming or local file, beats on or off) suffers from random cutting out and skips.
The stuttering transitions and the split second delay between pushing a button and something happening is mostly noticeable when done beside my S3 or Optimus G; otherwise it just feels generally slow.
I only get cutting out/skips with audio when i'm running slacker radio and the screen is active. If the screen is asleep, I have no sound quality issues with slacker. With regular MP3s, I have zero audio quality issues other than A2DP which is a simple bitpool setting that will get fixed by ROMs, but AUX connection sounds fantastic.
I don't see any of the slow or stuttering issues you are describing.
I'm gonna update to the latest stock image, and play with mp3 off flash. I've had issues with Spotify, Pandora, and subsonic. Come to think of it, I rarely listen with my screen off; I'm always at my desk at work and leave it on for the cover art and controls.
What ROM do you use?
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I only get cutting out/skips with audio when i'm running slacker radio and the screen is active. If the screen is asleep, I have no sound quality issues with slacker. With regular MP3s, I have zero audio quality issues other than A2DP which is a simple bitpool setting that will get fixed by ROMs, but AUX connection sounds fantastic.
I don't see any of the slow or stuttering issues you are describing.
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I have used stock and elegancia. Both had the same music/sound issues. I think it is more of an app issue somehow.
I had the HOX before coming to the HOX+ i had some of these in playing music, but after a service it was fine. I think you have a bad phone. As far as the delay/stuttering it should be because of a rouge app which is slowing down the phone.