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Just got to know that Pantech has released the much awaited Jelly Bean 4.1 for the Flex through OTA AT&T software update.
Like many others, I'm using the flex outside US, therefore, cannot update my flex.
Would request someone to upload the OTA JB zip file.
Can't wait to see Jelly Bean on the Flex.
PS: Check out the Pantech website for this great news
This is good news. I wish I wasn't rooted with CWMR so I could get this. Tried flashing stock recovery.img and boot.img files but get NOT SUPPORT.
Anyone know a way to get this phone back to complete stock so we can get the Jell Bean goodness?
I managed to unroot and restore stock recovery.
Got prompted for the update, it downloaded and installed fine!
This little Flex seems quite a bit better with Jelly Bean. Wish it had been 4.2 but 4.1 is fine.
Tersanyus said:
I managed to unroot and restore stock recovery.
Got prompted for the update, it downloaded and installed fine!
This little Flex seems quite a bit better with Jelly Bean. Wish it had been 4.2 but 4.1 is fine.
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Can you upload the update file?
How did you unroot?
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Not rooted anymore so probably can't get the update file. It was like 264MB or something.
Not planning to root this phone again.
Interesting that the Pantech diag menu shows still rooted and tampered, it's definitely not rooted.
It should be 100% stock.
If you know of a way to get the file off the phone I can look for it.
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I knew from experience I had to go to stock recovery and unroot to update.
I flashed a stock rooted nandroid backup I had made after rooting initially.
To unroot I think I went into the SuperUser app and choose option to unroot.
Stock recovery file is posted in a thread here somewhere, had recovery.img and boot.img.
Tried flashing those in fastboot but only got NOT SUPPORT mesage.
I took a flashable zip file that had CWM recovery.img file in it and replaced it with the stock recovery.img and flashed it in CWM.
Once stock recovery was on the phone when I tried to use it I only got a little android symbol lying on its back with a red exclamation point.
Phone booted fine and worked ok
Couldn't get it to see the AT&T update until this morning.
Things I have noticed in this new Jelly Bean build for our little Flex:
Of the stock AT&T apps only 3 I could disable (ugh), why no Disable button
good news
Tersanyus said:
Not rooted anymore so probably can't get the update file. It was like 264MB or something.
Not planning to root this phone again.
Interesting that the Pantech diag menu shows still rooted and tampered, it's definitely not rooted.
It should be 100% stock.
If you know of a way to get the file off the phone I can look for it.
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Basically you will find the update in the /cache folder.
I'm not sure if you you can access this folder without being rooted. You can give it a try using the ES File Explorer.
Let me know if you get the update.
ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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Oh that's bad!
Actually, there's another way. If you can share your system nandroid backup, maybe that can help.
Try Rooting
Tersanyus said:
ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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Why dont you try to root with this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460 ,its the same you used to root 4.0.4 I guess, should work, pull out the update and then unroot the phone as you dont want it rooted.
It happened to me, even rooted I wanst able to see /data content with ES File Blablabla, then tried with root explorer and worked fine.
I'm not going to root this Flex. It's not a primary phone for me (never was). It is used as a spare now and can be used by novice users in my family and friends. Don't want them to have a rooted phone. I'd been wanting to get this phone back to complete stock for a while but hasn't really put much effort into it.
When I saw that Pantech released JB for Flex a few days ago that was my motivation to get it back to stock. Frankly I was surprised I was able to get it back to stock and not brick the phone!
I'm uploading the stock rooted rom I have. Luckily I saved that on my computer. It's uploading to Dropbox now so it will take a while.
Thanks for your help
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I'm not going to root this Flex. It's not a primary phone for me (never was). It is used as a spare now and can be used by novice users in my family and friends. Don't want them to have a rooted phone. I'd been wanting to get this phone back to complete stock for a while but hasn't really put much effort into it.
When I saw that Pantech released JB for Flex a few days ago that was my motivation to get it back to stock. Frankly I was surprised I was able to get it back to stock and not brick the phone!
I'm uploading the stock rooted rom I have. Luckily I saved that on my computer. It's uploading to Dropbox now so it will take a while.
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Well, thanks for the file, I'm outside US and even on stock, update notification doesn't prompt.
I got mine back to Stock, but when I hit check for upgrade it says..."Previous session is running. Please Try Later"
I have wiped it several times. any ideas?
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kneemeister said:
I got mine back to Stock, but when I hit check for upgrade it says..."Previous session is running. Please Try Later"
I have wiped it several times. any ideas?
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I can see ATT's software updater sucks, we just can wait for our friend's upload.
Here it is: Link removed, Dropbox suspended it.
That should be a stock but rooted rom. Nothing else done to it at all. At least. I had that on the phone for a while as a backup when I was playing with roms for the flex.
Probably only going to leave this link up for a day. I'd make your own nandroid backup first. You'll probably get an md5 error in CWMR but there are instructions for fixing that around. I think it was ADB commands that had to fix it. I know the instructions for clearing the md5 error are in one of the flex rom threads, not that there were many of those. The standard disclaimer applies, if this nandroid backup bricks your phone, I can't help you.
I got the same previous session message too. Then it said no update after wiping. I think the best thing is just wipe and don't check for updates. Leave phone on, wifi on and wait for the phone to check on it's own. I got the prompt in a few hours.
Hope this helps you.
So, need to flash stock recovery after restoring nandroid correct?
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Likely if you do not flash stock recovery in CWMR the update will fail. I tried to take the update before flashing stock recovery, it failed each time. I had already unrooted though. Pretty much what I have learned from flashing various phones over the years is that if you are not stock completely any OTA updates from the carrier will fail or soft brick your device.
I think the Flex was one where I had just that issue. There was some AT&T update a few months back, I said to apply it and I got stuck in recovery. Every time I rebooted the phone it just booted to recovery. Found out if I went into the diag screen on the Flex and choose reboot from there I could boot normally. Eventually I figured out I had the wrong boot.img on the phone. Once that was fixed the phone booted fine. But the update never worked.
You can try to take the update with CWMR but I doubt it will work and could brick or soft brick. I've learned to never take an OTA update from the carrier if you are not completely stock.
Still waiting
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Likely if you do not flash stock recovery in CWMR the update will fail. I tried to take the update before flashing stock recovery, it failed each time. I had already unrooted though. Pretty much what I have learned from flashing various phones over the years is that if you are not stock completely any OTA updates from the carrier will fail or soft brick your device.
I think the Flex was one where I had just that issue. There was some AT&T update a few months back, I said to apply it and I got stuck in recovery. Every time I rebooted the phone it just booted to recovery. Found out if I went into the diag screen on the Flex and choose reboot from there I could boot normally. Eventually I figured out I had the wrong boot.img on the phone. Once that was fixed the phone booted fine. But the update never worked.
You can try to take the update with CWMR but I doubt it will work and could brick or soft brick. I've learned to never take an OTA update from the carrier if you are not completely stock.
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Im on stock and I cant update, no root, stock recovery, Ive been waiting for the update and nothing.
I dont know if is because Im outside US
I got mine back to stock and unrooted, but the upgrade still fails at about 25% and reboots. If I clear cache and wipe, it will download again, then fail again. Even after flashing back to stock, recovery still says rooted and so does the software upload screen. But I have confirmed that I am no longer rooted. I am about to give up.
I just got this new G3 and i update now its 11c is there a root i would really like to root it please help
Could you always flash back to 10b and then root? I took the update a few days ago went back to 10b so my Foxfi works. Just hope I dont have to take the update later. This is what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Yes, drop back to 10b, root, then figure out what you want to do. In my case I applied the modem, boot, and system files from 11c, but did not try to apply the ota directly.
I would flash back to 10b. Then root with Stump, Bump it so TWRP recovery will be accessible. Then download Beanstown 11c rom and flash it. You will then be on the latest version without worrying about ota updates breaking root.
Just wait for the developers to release the updates from here on or you will risk losing root and unlocked bootloader.
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
Later on, no telling how much later yet, replacement phones will come with Lollipop preinstalled. At that point there might be no way to root and bump at all, because rolling back to v10b might be blocked.
Point is, if you need access to your phone as if you really owned it yourself, get it now and protect it best you can. Things are changing.
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How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
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How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
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You have to use the KDZ method. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
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ride5000 said:
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
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Hey I accidentally took the update and thought I was outta luck. But I was able to downgrade back to stock then use Stump to root. Go here. Worked great for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Once y'all kdz back to 10b flash a 11c rom. There's 2 to choose from. Jasmine and beanstown. I got Jasmine running. Its a beast. I also recommend the sky kernel in the og dev section. Really helps with battery.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... I thought stump auto installed TWRP? I'm new to Lg... came from an S4..... so I'm not very familiar with downgrading from 11c-10b but I'm slowly figuring it out through multiple forums.... I'm still not sure wth bumping TWRP is though.... I just want to get into CM12 eventually... lol
Edit: N/m I was thinking of BUMP..... damn YouTube videos making me confused at times...
Bump does not install on your phone itself or make any changes to your phone. Stuff like TWRP must be changed slightly by their developers to make them appear signed so they will load - bumpD does that. To the things you are flashing once rooted via Stump or ioRoot or PurpleDrake.
You don't use bumpD yourself, you flash images that have been bumpD.
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I've tried searching and reading through the various downgrade and upgrade available threads, but can't seem to find anything concrete on the matter. Has anyone confirmed that rollback has OR has not been blocked in the latest OTA - 12B? I'm assuming the tot method wouldn't work since it didn't work with 11C, so I'm most specifically wondering about the kdz method. I'm trying to figure this out for a friend. Thanks!
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I've tried searching and reading through the various downgrade and upgrade available threads, but can't seem to find anything concrete on the matter. Has anyone confirmed that rollback has OR has not been blocked in the latest OTA - 12B? I'm assuming the tot method wouldn't work since it didn't work with 11C, so I'm most specifically wondering about the kdz method. I'm trying to figure this out for a friend. Thanks!
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This topic is of interest to me as I started on 10B and never took any OTA. I rooted, bump'd and started running Beanstown 11C, Cyanogenmod 11, BlissPop 5.0.1 and now SkyDragon 2.0.0. I have seen some report that the .tot method has been met with mixed success for people that took the 11C update but I haven't seen any details. Does the LG Flash Tool have issues laying down the base 10B image when it sees 11C? I would guess if that is the case, the same would be for 12B. Has anyone tried formatting with TWRP etc.?
I have never done the LG Flash Tool with .tot but was always keeping it in my toolbox for when the official Lollipop 5.0.x build comes from Verizon. I would be interested to see why the .tot method fails or the KDZ method for that matter.
Don't know about 12b (but I think someone else did reply to this question in another forum and stated that yes, you can downgrade back to 10b), but this post says downgrading from 11c possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
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Don't know about 12b (but I think someone else did reply to this question in another forum and stated that yes, you can downgrade back to 10b), but this post says downgrading from 11c possible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
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Yep, I know all about that. I've tot restored 10B a couple different times, and kdz'ed an 11C install back to 10B once, so I'm very familiar with both of those. I'm really curious to know though specifically if anyone has been able to confirm if 12B can be kdz'ed (or tot'ed for that matter, but I doubt it), back to 10B. If a new phone is bought in the next few weeks an comes out of the box with 12B flashed, I need to know whether this I would be stuck as unrootable/unlockable for the time being.
done.
I did it. Was curious about Advanced Calling so I downgraded since I forgot to make a backup of stock recovery. Got back to stock with no root and no custom recovery. Then I took the OTA updates to 12B. Found out I could not root from there and crossed my fingers and downgraded again. Had a moment of panic as the first attempt failed. Instead of getting a success msg on my computer and a big red number 3 on my phone I had a big red number 2. Restarted the process again and this time it took it. Rooted first this time, then took the updates. Not really interested anymore in custom ROMS and am happy with stock and root. I am curious though if I will be able to install TWRP from here. Haven't tried it.
I'd be careful though and get one more confirmation before you try it. When I said panic, that is really putting it lightly lol
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Yep, I know all about that. I've tot restored 10B a couple different times, and kdz'ed an 11C install back to 10B once, so I'm very familiar with both of those. I'm really curious to know though specifically if anyone has been able to confirm if 12B can be kdz'ed (or tot'ed for that matter, but I doubt it), back to 10B. If a new phone is bought in the next few weeks an comes out of the box with 12B flashed, I need to know whether this I would be stuck as unrootable/unlockable for the time being.
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I can tell you this, I was rooted and the 12B update is on my phone and I'm still rooted. I'm going to try and flash back to 10B to see if it works or not. I'm trying to download the KDZ file, but it keeps aborting. The connection is REAL slow.
I haven't tried the TOT file yet either.
I used the TOT file myself.
A couple of things to consider, the tot download is to 10b_3 (the released version) and kzd is to version 10b_1.
The main difference is that 10b_3 Will take OTA updates while 10b_1 Will not.
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I used the TOT file myself.
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Awesome! That's what I wanted to know. I'll probably stay on 12b rooted for now then.
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tomlow said:
I did it. Was curious about Advanced Calling so I downgraded since I forgot to make a backup of stock recovery. Got back to stock with no root and no custom recovery. Then I took the OTA updates to 12B. Found out I could not root from there and crossed my fingers and downgraded again. Had a moment of panic as the first attempt failed. Instead of getting a success msg on my computer and a big red number 3 on my phone I had a big red number 2. Restarted the process again and this time it took it. Rooted first this time, then took the updates. Not really interested anymore in custom ROMS and am happy with stock and root. I am curious though if I will be able to install TWRP from here. Haven't tried it.
I'd be careful though and get one more confirmation before you try it. When I said panic, that is really putting it lightly lol
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Oh, and yes. You can install TWRP. As long as you're rooted, use Flashify to flash it. I can't seem to get to it via the button pushes though, so I installed Quick Boot and use that to boot into recovery, although at this time, I have no use for the recovery except for doing nandroid backups.
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I used the TOT file myself.
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Thanks a ton for these confirmations....I have to say though, it's very interesting that tot worked for you when so many people had such trouble using the tot when 11C came out. Thanks again though!
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Thanks a ton for these confirmations....I have to say though, it's very interesting that tot worked for you when so many people had such trouble using the tot when 11C came out. Thanks again though!
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I'm just surprised SuperSU survived the OTAs as I thought it wouldn't since the exploit probably does some modification to the system partition. On Motorola phones it usually caused issues.
I downgraded from 12b using the kdz method. No problems what so ever other than the flash tool crashing at the end.
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I downgraded from 12b using the kdz method. No problems what so ever other than the flash tool crashing at the end.
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Interesting....well then I'll ask you another couple off topic questions then, since the only experience I had with the kdz method turned out SUPER sketchy haha. So when I started the flash tool program up and began the process of flashing, I had 2 weird occurrences and want to know if you experienced anything similar. The first weird thing that happened is I never had any confirmation that the software was "seeing" the phone as being connected. I don't have it in front of me as I'm at work, but I recall one screen having boxes in the lower left corner that seemed like they should show something if it were seeing a device connected, but they were completely blank - do you know what screen I'm referring to, and did this happen to you?
And the second thing that happened that about gave me a heart attack (since it was on a friend's phone hahaha), was that when I couldn't get those boxes described above to populate and give me any indication/confirmation that the software was actually "seeing" anything, I just bit the bullet and decided to hit next, at which point the flash tool took off and began flashing, but both the flash tool program itself, and the dialogue boxes that popped up during the process were completely full of question marks.....nothing at all readable. Did you also experience anything like this?
Just figured I'd ask as since I did this to a friend's phone a month or so ago, it's always bugged me as to why it occurred, and so I've been very hesitant to ever use it again should I have to, so I at least wanted to see if I was in the minority on these experiences haha Thanks in advance!
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Interesting....well then I'll ask you another couple off topic questions then, since the only experience I had with the kdz method turned out SUPER sketchy haha. So when I started the flash tool program up and began the process of flashing, I had 2 weird occurrences and want to know if you experienced anything similar. The first weird thing that happened is I never had any confirmation that the software was "seeing" the phone as being connected. I don't have it in front of me as I'm at work, but I recall one screen having boxes in the lower left corner that seemed like they should show something if it were seeing a device connected, but they were completely blank - do you know what screen km referring to, and did this happen to you?
And the second thing that happened that about gave me a heart attack (since it was one friend's phone hahaha), was that when I couldn't get those boxes described above to populate and give me an indication/confirmation that the software was "seeing" anything, I just bit the bullet and decided to hit at which point the flash tool took off and began flashing, but both the flash tool program itself, and the dialogue boxes that popped up were completely full of question marks.....nothing at all readable. Did you also experience anything like this?
Just figured I'd ask as since I did this to a friend's phone a month or so ago, it's always bugged me as to why it occurred, and I've been hesitant to ever use it again should I have to, so I am least wanted to see if I was in the minority haha Thanks in advance!
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Yah, it was sketch. I did see all the ?????? all over the screen but I trusted the directions on the thread.
As far as the software seeing the device, the only indication that I had was the program showing the available memory on the device, so I knew it was reading it.
I did it once, it worked, I'm not really a seasoned flasher. I just got my G3 last week and I had OTAd before rooting and unlocking.
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Yah, it was sketch. I did see all the ?????? all over the screen but I trusted the directions on the thread.
As far as the software seeing the device, the only indication that I had was the program showing the available memory on the device, so I knew it was reading it.
I did it once, it worked, I'm not really a seasoned flasher. I just got my G3 last week and I had OTAd before rooting and unlocking.
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Lol well I appreciate your confirmation that I'm not the only one who felt the sketchiness. I never noticed the available memory as being shown, but maybe I overlooked that. And I'm a pretty seasoned flasher, at least as far as custom rom flashing goes, but yeah that process definitely grew a little hair on my knuckles lol. Thanks again!
is 12B even worth upgrading to?
I have been reading alot about the update to 11 and 12B. is it really worth it to upgrade?...I got my phone it had 10B out of the box (I think) and phone immediately said there was an update as I was on my way home from the verizon store, so I thought sure and did the update, got home and started looking into root and realized I had to downgrade to 10 to get root, did it KTZ method, rooted, installed TWRP so I can make backups, and here I am ever since, as far as I can tell from reading is the only thing 12B gives you is advanced calling or whatever it is, I dont really care if I have that, I dont really even care if I have that unless someone can chime in and tell me whats its all about, is it worth upgrading and risking loosing root and stuff just for this advanced calling feature?...what is it and what does it do?
This is VoLTE or Voice over LTE. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't do anything on the G3 other than allow your voice conversations to travel over the LTE line. This update was required for the Turbo, Sony, and other new phones that could not talk and surf at the same time. The G3 never had that problem.
nice tips, i was at 10b and rooted. i just couldnt take the annoying update available pop up anymore.
so i unrooted, udpated to 12b, then realized i cant root 12b. i just re flashed back to 10b.
my questions:
1) do i root 10b then upgrade to 11c? if so how, this was my original version and my problem was it always failed to update?
2) do i upgrade to 11c first, then root? if so how, i cant find directions to root 11c?
3) once rooted at 11c, how to i upgrade to 12b while keeping the root?
only reason i root is for wifi tethering on a unlimited verizon plan, if there is another way to be updated and have tethering, please share.
thank you.
i am a newbie at rooting, so specific links/steps are appreciated.
Yes. I went from 12 to 10,just follow the instructions.
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Yes. I went from 12 to 10,just follow the instructions.
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im not sure if you are trying answering my questions or not. if you are, i am rooted at 10b again. how do i keep my root but update to at least 11c, but preferably 12b?
update, i found a temp solution in another thread thanks to user Wildcat2083 :
I found a useful trick to keep the ota from showing up, if you enter ##3328873 in tge dialer pad and enter 000000 for the service code you then can uncheck the ota-dm mode this should prevent any ota
this at least gets rid of the update pop up. but i would still like to know how to upgrade to 12b well keeping my root.
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
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As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
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If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
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If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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well at the moment that doesn't effect the GPe, and may never. There will have to be a system image flashed to put the block device in a known state before the new way could ever be used, and if there is a system.img we can always flash that to get the OTA to work... no big deal I don't think.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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If you were using Xposed, then that is more than likely why your OTA is failing.
What is Xposed? How would I check to see if it has affected my device? Only thing I did was Towelroot and running SuperSU. I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that. I was intentionally trying to keep this phone basically stock so that it would easily update to Lolipop. I did a Titanium backup to the externalSD card and reset it to factory and the OTA update still fails though. I assume this was due to the fact that I rooted it. The bootloader is still unmodified, secureboot is still green - yes, lock state is locked. Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
jeraldjunkmail said:
I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that.
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jeraldjunkmail said:
Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
Visa Declined said:
If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
blueether said:
The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
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As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
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As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
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That's fine and I take no offence at you not wanting to unlock the BL.
I haven't tried the full unroot option in supersu so I'm not sure what the outcome is. One of the other GPe users care to comment?
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
jeraldjunkmail said:
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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Can you point me inthe right direction for instructions on this process? Thanks!
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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Your post is two years ago but i think you can help me,there is a new update for my phone and i am rooted i also have xposed installed so this mean i cannot update my sytem? Do i need to uninstall xposed? Im on stock rom and with TWRP recovery it would be a big help if you reply thanks.
So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?
- Is there a new update coming soon?
Do the updates actually help the phone performance and fix issues without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself?
Thanks!
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So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)yes
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?after, or you will get stuck in recovery
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?no, just flash twrp after updating
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?12b
- Is there a new update coming soon?unlikely anyone can answer this
Do the updates actually help the phone performance not really and fix issues other than lag im not sure what needs to be fixed without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself? for the most part, you will need to tweek and mod yourself to improve performance and fix issues such as lag
Thanks!
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One more thing...
When I am updating and another software update is released, I will have TWRP flashed.
Updating it will cause a bootloop.
How can I prevent that?
Using titanium backup (TiBU) or similar program, freeze the app called "System updates 1_...". For me this has worked, though some people seem to still have issues; I'm trying to figure out if it is a TiBU problem or if they have accidentally frozen the wrong thing.
Alternative is to go to /system/app and rename the two LGDMSClient files, add a .bak to the end of the names, then restart.
See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56061720
Copy the zip in the first post onto your phone. If you accidentally do get an ota after you have a custom recovery, tell twrp to Install that zip
file. It will flush the ota from your system, so you aren't such buying to recovery.
HTH!
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
Doh...
BladeRunner said:
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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Lucky....12b here
rensmooth said:
Lucky....12b here
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You DO know that you can downgrade back to 10b to root and bump, correct? Just use KDZ or TOT files.
That was one of the other things I researched before getting this phone. Luckily, it came with 10B, but I'm on 12b, rooted and bumped.
Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
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Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
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I know the feeling. For the past 3 three years, I was on Motorola phones, so there was a lot of FXZ files and fastboot flashing for me. Switching to LG meant learning that all over again.
New Question
Here, if any of you know the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-overheating-issues-t2975509
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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That I don't know about, since the two tools to flash the TOT and KDZ files are windows based.
Not sure if you could get them to run via Wine or something, but that might be an option, but since it also requires all the drivers and such, I have no idea how/if that would work and wouldn't even know how to start to set that up.
On motorola phones, you could use the fastboot command line tool that comes with the Android SDK and drivers, so that was nice.
But to take the TOT and KDZ files and flash them under Linux, I have no idea.
I got my phone on 11b, and downgraded it.
Used the Stump root, and then I used Bump! to install TWRP.
Forgot to do the updates, oh well another day.
They're not that important., right?
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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Advanced calling does nothing for me because I believe it's an extra charge on your bill for it. Forget that!
AC 1.0 is no added charge. HD voice is billed the same as any other call. The video part of a video call gets booked against your data plan (I'm grandfathered Unlimited), and free if it goes over WiFi.
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Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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If I was you. I would get me an older used Win7 Laptop if you want to flash phones. Will make your life easier...
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markfm said:
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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can you please show me how to this my phone got stuck tryin to go to 11c
In the Verizon g3 General section, stickies, bweN diorD has a reference thread. He has links to the various images, and to a thread on using flash2.
one click root
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Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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This is the second G3 I have purchased. I Suggest using one click root to root. Also stop and Phil's can be flashed using flashing. It seems easier to me dealing with image rather than zip. I've foremost roms and so far my experience has me favoring Bliss Pop. That is what I am running now and to be honest I think I'm going back to 10b. The customizations are nice but to me it's not worth the problems associated with L.P. My opinion Bliss Pop has the best handle on the problems and still too much for me. I'm going to give LP a few months for the developers fix all bugs. Verizon hasn't released LP yet and there is reason behind that other than being big bully carrier. Once again my opinion only. You picked a great phone that is for sure!