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Hello everybody, I'm opening the thread just to read opinions from you all about the kernels that are currently available.
The one I've been using is void #echo, which in my humble opinion with the combination of a tweaked deadline scheduler and a lionheart governor provides great performance, battery life and minimum lag whatsoever.
I do understand that it depends on needs which shall be used, however, I would like to know which one to you guys works smoother and provides better performance / battery life.
I always aim for performance over battery life (I didn't buy a SGSII to get poor performance )
In terms of battery life, I can get it up to 22~23 hours on battery, using WCDMA only / HSPA+ during day and enabling airplane mode during night.
Fast Dormancy disabled and deep sleep working correctly (XXKL1).
I don't like the complexity of siyah and to be good on batt you have to tweak it more with UV and thing like that ,wish is not my style to make trying/errors on my brand new 600$phone !
I tried speed mod wish is very great actually with great overall perform
void echo is the one Im trying right now ! since 2 days its feel very strong and good on battery with good performance on games without getting the phone very hot
neak is good but its more a copy/past of the overall coders over wish is good in one sense but its a bit laggy in game with lucrative mod but defenatly one of my favorite kernel out there ! Im waiting for 1.3 to let simone correct some bugs
Siyah is the tweakers' heaven. You can fine tune every last bit of your phone.
I personally love void, it feels very fast and has good battery life.
I tried NEAK for a short time and it seemed fine but quite many report lag in games(using on demand governor seems to fix it though).
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
siyah 2.6.4.
Neo3000 said:
as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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Great feedback bro, I tried Siyah in the past but honestly when I used it I didn't know there were parameters to tweak (didn't check the REF documentation LOL).
Do you get smoother behavior / better performance / higher benchmark scores tweaking the parameters? In quadrant I get around 4604 with void.echo.
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
Phyxsyus said:
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
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WoW that sounds nice, if you turn off RAWR what's the score?
kimitza said:
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
100% agree most of the battery better and greater speed for these kernels is actually unproven and just advertising bumf .
I have used the kernels listed in the topic and in each case stock kernel has benchmarked better using multiple tests .
jje
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kimitza said:
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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I agree with your opinion, and that's the reason why I use only Sammy Stock ROMs
I've flashed a number of roms and kernels in the past few months since May, best combination for me is usually a near stock rom, plus a stable kernel like Speedmod, they just work without needing any tweaking apart from custom set up that's it.
I don't generally like the number of tweaks in some roms but each to their own.
I find stock fine and fluid and stable enough without much problems.
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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kimitza said:
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
Best kernel so far for me is hardcore's speedmod.
Fast, first time I broke the 6000 barrier on Antutu benchmark without overclock. And great battery life, one full day + charging only by the end of day two, with normal use.
Normal use for me is making phone calls, surfing web and playing games sometimes, not more than 20min per "session". Turning wifi and 3g off when phone on standby. And switching to airplane mode overnight.
And yes I tried other kernels....
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with. high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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Don't get me wrong, I do prefer all that, I just wanted to know what things are changed in those roms to get that performance.
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
rhai said:
I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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= high CPU usage .
jje
Hello everyone,
I've been looking for recent benchmark tests over Android Kernels to choose the best one for me. I wonder a comparison specially between Siyah, Franco and Phenomenal. Actually I am open for kernel advises and recommendations.
Just to know I am looking for kernels which provides a nice handling processes for power safe but also a good performance when I need it...
Regards
SharpBang said:
Hello everyone,
I've been looking for recent benchmark tests over Android Kernels to choose the best one for me. I wonder a comparison specially between Siyah, Franco and Phenomenal. Actually I am open for kernel advises and recommendations.
Just to know I am looking for kernels which provides a nice handling processes for power safe but also a good performance when I need it...
Regards
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Test them and you will see, does take you 2 minutes to flash you a kernel though
chrismast said:
Test them and you will see, does take you 2 minutes to flash you a kernel though
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Sure I'll test them all.
I'd like to receive recommendations about people which already uses. I saw that most of people uses Siyah, like you, do you like it? What are your insights about Siyah?
For my phone and my environment it works well. For yours I do not know .
I am a hard gamer.
I dont really have time to try each rom which is the best, so I need your experience guys about which ROM that have the most stability and performance for gaming?
I dont need features, beautify the UI or etc.
All I care is super slim, simple, stability and performance.
I think this question will be frequently asked with Mido user who bought this phone because of its performance for gaming. We all know this is the most budget phone but very good performance both cpu and graphics.
And if anyone using tweaks like Ultimate Performance, Govtuner, or L Speed or even GLtools to improve the performance. Tell us here.
Thank you.
I am also waiting for custom kernel coz me also a hard gamer
maybe this is not the right phone being a hardcore gamer?
try slim rom
Faizaan M said:
I am also waiting for custom kernel coz me also a hard gamer
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Ok, lets we all wait.
endrancer said:
maybe this is not the right phone being a hardcore gamer?
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But this the best budget phone in term of performance.
dredremon said:
try slim rom
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I guess you haven't tried slim rom?
I was looking to flash a new kernel for my poco f1.
I search for a bit and find out that people consider those 2 the best one out there
Can someone explain me which one is better and why?
Sphinx has better performance but runs hotter than Franco this is because Sphinxes clocks are higher.
Franco has lower clocks so you will see minor stutters in games but it is clocked lower than stock. While only francos gpu is overclocked.
Both are stable in all applications no crashing.
it's not overclocked on franco. and it's a bad idea to overclock when it throttles anyway at load. it will make things worse. you could actually get better performance if you underclock...
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Sphinx has better performance but runs hotter than Franco this is because Sphinxes clocks are higher.
Franco has lower clocks so you will see minor stutters in games but it is clocked lower than stock. While only francos gpu is overclocked.
Both are stable in all applications no crashing.
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Do u know which one have better battery life?
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it's not overclocked on franco. and it's a bad idea to overclock when it throttles anyway at load. it will make things worse. you could actually get better performance if you underclock...
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so in your opinion which one is better for battery life?
I'LL go for franco anytime.. of the day.. both are superb in performance.. but im getting longer battery life with franco.
Franco is a great developer, buy he doenst use f1, just develop for it. Sphynx is an f1 user and his kernel is better polished, i have better battey with it. But there are lots of good kernels here, now im using shadow kernel, it is very good too
kernels don't really matter for battery life. unless using drivers with issues, which isn't a problem on a poco.
if you're using miui, debloat services and processes that constantly report to miui and wake your device.
limit apps push notification and background access. disable sync of non essential services.
personally i don't believe in using battery saving profiles and tweaks like LKT and messing with CPU governers and I/O scheds, but you can experiment with those if you need more battery at the expense of performance.
also try to optimize battery for any service/app you don't need realtime sync for (or don't need it to stay running in background). can also try the google play services gms doze module.
use adblocking browser like Bromite / hosts file to prevent ads from loading will also help battery times.
all of these have far greater effect on battery than kernel level tweaks or differences.
To be honest, the kernels I love are not the two. I actually use Shadow and Twisted Prime. I am currently using Twisted's kernel because, in my use-case, it actually provided me with better performance and overall battery. However, Shadow kernel is also good because you can add tweaks that will make it even better.
After being with franco kernel for quite a while.. im.now.trying the MALAKAS or MLX kernel.. and im telling you bro.. this one's damn smooth and effficient too.. wow. Just wow..
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I'LL go for franco anytime.. of the day.. both are superb in performance.. but im getting longer battery life with franco.
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Lol are you in dreams ?
Franco is the most power hungry kernel.
Evel the stock is better than it.
Without using any underclocking.
And after underclocking it gets like 2+ minutes in battery life and makes the phone's performance ****
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Lol are you in dreams ?
Franco is the most power hungry kernel.
Evel the stock is better than it.
Without using any underclocking.
And after underclocking it gets like 2+ minutes in battery life and makes the phone's performance ****
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What kernel do you recommend that is balanced in terms of battery life and performance?
djdelarosa25 said:
What kernel do you recommend that is balanced in terms of battery life and performance?
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Stock with tweaks
SumanKaka said:
Stock with tweaks
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You're on MIUI, right?
djdelarosa25 said:
You're on MIUI, right?
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Yes
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Stock with tweaks
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What kind of tweaks..
Just wanna report that Twisted is the most balanced kernel that I've tried.
Sphinx kernel has a better performance than Franco, but the device will be hotter. If you're in a tropical country, the temperature may stay between 40°C-45°C in Sphinx. Franco saves a lot more battery, also low temperature, but I don't like the performance in games, but it is better than the stock kernel.
Giacoml said:
I was looking to flash a new kernel for my poco f1.
I search for a bit and find out that people consider those 2 the best one out there
Can someone explain me which one is better and why?
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What is this? Some sort of competition? Ask your question in a more appropriate way whether you want better performance or better battery life. Both kernel serves different purpose.
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lucascm08 said:
Franco is a great developer, buy he doenst use f1, just develop for it. Sphynx is an f1 user and his kernel is better polished, i have better battey with it. But there are lots of good kernels here, now im using shadow kernel, it is very good too
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That's quite the opposite. Francisco owns a Poco F1. Infact he was provided the unit by Xiaomi, afaik. On the other hand, Michael doesn't have a Poco F1. He owns a Dipper (Mi8) which share similar hardware and software with Poco F1.
So yeah as the title says I can't decide between Sesh 69hz and Optimus drunk, currently using Evolve X no other custom kernel. I'm looking for best performance and battery life
i'd suggest NGK if you are in need of both battery backup and performance
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i'd suggest NGK if you are in need of both battery backup and performance
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After thinking, i just installed NGK
4oMaK said:
After thinking, i just installed NGK
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Another suggestion!! Try all the available kernels and choose the best on accordingly that matches with your preference!
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So yeah as the title says I can't decide between Sesh 69hz and Optimus drunk, currently using Evolve X no other custom kernel. I'm looking for best performance and battery life
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Sesh is definitely designed for gamers and who love performance i m also using this kernel and yes this kernel not for who don't play games on mobile and want more battery. NGK is balanced which give u decent performance as well as good battery backup and optimus drunk is beast if u want more SOT this is my review after using these kernels and may be differ from other because everyone using their device differently and my device also 1 and half year old. So results are not same for everyone.
I agree with NG and Drunk kernels for SOT but for andro 10 there are some od changes and seems that, for me, Miui 11 with andro 10 stock gives such a good SOT that is maybe even better then other custom ones.
Malakas had awesome development but i do not know what happened to him. If anyone knows please say it.
Also a side question - How do i boost screen colours like Malakas had in his kernel?
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Sesh is definitely designed for gamers and who love performance i m also using this kernel and yes this kernel not for who don't play games on mobile and want more battery. NGK is balanced which give u decent performance as well as good battery backup and optimus drunk is beast if u want more SOT this is my review after using these kernels and may be differ from other because everyone using their device differently and my device also 1 and half year old. So results are not same for everyone.
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Installed NGK in the end and for battery life on balanced is a fu**ing beast with stock miui at work i would lose about 25%-30% with heavy reddit usage and some cod mobile here and there but now it doesnt drop below 89%
Try silvercore bro
Maniteja said:
Try silvercore bro
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Oh yes it seems to be crazy good. It comes as standard in HavocOS. Do you know where to find it?