Hey all,
I got the ATT one M8 from the US. its has some nonworking features (like tethering\hotspot). I really need that option and I understand that flashing the Viper ROM will help.
However - my work requires my phone not to be rooted to get emails.
Is it possible to unroot viper ROM after I install it (meaning keeping the viper ROM installed but unrooting it)?
thank you in advance
Could try [email protected] xposed module not sure itll work but worth a shot
mishumashu said:
Hey all,
I got the ATT one M8 from the US. its has some nonworking features (like tethering\hotspot). I really need that option and I understand that flashing the Viper ROM will help.
However - my work requires my phone not to be rooted to get emails.
Is it possible to unroot viper ROM after I install it (meaning keeping the viper ROM installed but unrooting it)?
thank you in advance
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I saw on a thread a couple weeks back about a flashable zip that unlocks wifi tethering. Im sure a simple search will dig that thread back up for you. it seemed pretty simple to do.
I flashed a RUU on mine that installed factory att software (bloated of course) but wifi tethering worked on it.
I think i got it from Mr. hoffs
chevyjohn01 said:
I saw on a thread a couple weeks back about a flashable zip that unlocks wifi tethering. Im sure a simple search will dig that thread back up for you. it seemed pretty simple to do.
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That mod requires root.
chevyjohn01 said:
I flashed a RUU on mine that installed factory att software (bloated of course) but wifi tethering worked on it.
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Tethering will work on a stock device (or device which official RUU was installed) if your AT&T account permits tethering. But its a network based verification. So if you try to use the stock AT&T ROM on another carrier (which is sounds like the OP is doing) it breaks the WiFi tethering feature (unless you mod the phone).
The OP is in kind of a Catch 22, where root is needed for tethering, but his work doesn't permit root. So it seems WNC's suggestion (if it works) is the best bet.
Couldn't he just unlock bootloader and boot TWRP without flashing custom recovery or rooting device and run flashable zip?
chevyjohn01 said:
Couldn't he just unlock bootloader and boot TWRP without flashing custom recovery or rooting device and run flashable zip?
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Most custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
Thank you all for the replies.
I have given up on trying to find a stock ROM and just flashed the Viper.
Cant get work emails now - will try the root cloak .
and thanks again for AT&T for being so square as to not let people from other countries and carriers use their own phones features!
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Hello, i picked up the s4 yesterday from verizon. Well, stupid me, i updated it right when i got it not knowing that i would not be able to root.
Anyways, i know alot of developers are trying to find a bypass/etc.
Here are the questions i have!
Once they find a bypass and i can root, can i use this recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2281367
If i flash cm10, once i root of course will i have to flash a kernal? If its not required i may want to, And would i flash it before or after i install cm10?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2305263
Kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2319243
Do you think the developers will be able to unlock the stupid bootloader?
And how many numbers on the flash counter will it take to come up with a triangle?
Thank you so much, sorry for all the questions!
Note-i am no noob with flashing/roms etc, i had a droid x2 and flashed every rom out there, samsung is a whole lot different with different kernels, the flash counter, etc!
Galaxys4bean said:
Hello, i picked up the s4 yesterday from verizon. Well, stupid me, i updated it right when i got it not knowing that i would not be able to root.
Anyways, i know alot of developers are trying to find a bypass/etc.
Here are the questions i have!
Once they find a bypass and i can root, can i use this recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2281367
If i flash cm10, once i root of course will i have to flash a kernal? If its not required i may want to, And would i flash it before or after i install cm10?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2305263
Kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2319243
Do you think the developers will be able to unlock the stupid bootloader?
And how many numbers on the flash counter will it take to come up with a triangle?
Thank you so much, sorry for all the questions!
Note-i am no noob with flashing/roms etc, i had a droid x2 and flashed every rom out there, samsung is a whole lot different with different kernels, the flash counter, etc!
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U would be able to use any kernel just as long its for the s4 and for the rom u choose, I have tried just about all of them but always went back to the stock kernel for battery life. I've always flashed the kernel after the rom. As far as recovery I prefer twrp but when I used any aokp or aosp I used cwm. Really shouldn't make much difference. Hope I've helped u some.
Thanks
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U would be able to use any kernel just as long its for the s4 and for the rom u choose, I have tried just about all of them but always went back to the stock kernel for battery life. I've always flashed the kernel after the rom. As far as recovery I prefer twrp but when I used any aokp or aosp I used cwm. Really shouldn't make much difference. Hope I've helped u some.
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You did, thanks alot, im starting to learn, do you know if they have a bypass yet to root when you installed the newest ota update?
Galaxys4bean said:
You did, thanks alot, im starting to learn, do you know if they have a bypass yet to root when you installed the newest ota update?
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Nothing yet, I updated my new 32 gig s4 without knowing, once I found out I called Verizon and told them I was having data issues and they send me out another which will be activated and then pulling sim, rooting, and flashing. Hopefully they all haven't been updated.
OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
spiff72 said:
OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
lacoursiere18 said:
Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
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Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!
spiff72 said:
Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!
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Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..
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Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..
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OK. I really don't want to go down the "stock" path and end up with a locked BL - that is why i am looking for alternatives!
Thanks again!
Now I am starting to think that the 4.4 ROMs out there may not be very well suited to the idea of "unrooting".
I have tried a couple of 4.4 ROMs like CM11 and AOKP in the last couple of days, and there seems to be a recurring theme - they all have the Superuser menus built into the settings. Will this be problematic?
I have seen that the SuperSU app does have an unroot option in the settings, but I have read conflicting reports of what this actually does. It sounds like it removes the app, but leaves the binaries behind, and this might be detected by the root detection features in the Maas360 app.
I am sorry to be so damn noobish but i need help lol... Ive watched so many youtube videos with josh dew and read so many posts and downloaded so many roms. I know I am probably missing just one step and if someone can help me I would be so appreciative.
my note 3 is rooted with twrp installed. i want to change my rom , my main goal is to get unlimited hotspot unlocked.... when i try to install a rom it says KERNEL is not SEANDROID ENFORCING, I then put it all back to stock then root then install twrp.
I think i have maybe a wrong kernel? What do I need to do?
TheWreckHER said:
I am sorry to be so damn noobish but i need help lol... Ive watched so many youtube videos with josh dew and read so many posts and downloaded so many roms. I know I am probably missing just one step and if someone can help me I would be so appreciative.
my note 3 is rooted with twrp installed. i want to change my rom , my main goal is to get unlimited hotspot unlocked.... when i try to install a rom it says KERNEL is not SEANDROID ENFORCING, I then put it all back to stock then root then install twrp.
I think i have maybe a wrong kernel? What do I need to do?
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There is nothing wrong. It says that only if you are not using a pure stock kernel.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk
JonSCSL said:
There is nothing wrong. It says that only if you are not using a pure stock kernel.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk
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But it just reboots constantly never starts up
TheWreckHER said:
But it just reboots constantly never starts up
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I need a little more information from your phone in order to accurately help you.
What version of stock TW were you running when you rooted (prior to flashing a ROM)?
Based on what you're describing, you most-likely were on Jellybean (MJ4) when you did your rooting and installed TWRP.
What is your bootloader version?
You can see this on the same boot-up screen where you see the "KERNEL is not SEANDROID ENFORCING" message.
What is your TWRP version?
Some ROMs need the newest version of TWRP in order to install correctly. For our phone, older versions of TWRP (2.6.X.X) can only be used to install Jellybean (MJ4) Roms, while the newer versions of TWRP (2.7.X.X) can only install KitKat (NAB, NC5) Roms.
What ROMs have you been trying to flash?
This will help us understand if there are issues with what you're installing.
The main reason I ask these questions is that there is a very specific way of upgrading from Jellybean (MJ4) to KitKat (NAB, NC5) on our phones. Most people (like myself) rooted on other phones and aren't used to the bootloader restrictions Samsung introduced on the Note 3, so we expect to just upgrade from MJ4 to NC5 like it's no big deal.
Also, there's the issue with TWRP... because of the whole bootloader thing, one version of TWRP cannot work for both JB and KK Roms. It's just the way it is... We've helped plenty of people who were trying to flash KK Roms on an older version of TWRP, only to have errors and bootloops.
Hope this helps!
Check out "WiFi Tether Router"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.snclab.wifitetherrouter This works, for me, on stock rooted nc5. It's a paid app. Follow the settings directions in the description to get all the settings right for your phone. It works and isn't difficult to set up. I have nc5 stock rooted. Custom recovery isn't needed for this. You must have root for it to work.
A reboot after using is a good idea. Otherwise, no complaints. Works on 4g.
Tethering eats battery life and creates heat. If you plan to use it for awhile, I suggest plugging in a charger. Keep the phone out in the open so it can keep cool and get good signal. Charging and tethering with create heat. Nothing to worry about if you don't put the phone in a hot place while using it.
Hey now!
I just rooted/flashed my AT&T Galaxy S5 with AllianceRom - Build 3 to use with T-mobile.
I would like to know if I can get wifi-calling and VoLTE to work with my phone with this ROM or would I need to download the stock Tmobile ROM in order for it to work?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks!
Your post would fit better in your custom ROM thread, where 99% of the readers will be using the same ROM. Here, only a minority of people will have any specific experience with that ROM.
Does your custom ROM include wifi calling? Are people reporting wifi call success or failures in the custom ROM thread?
Has your custom ROM been updated to include the recent VoLTE update e.g. the equivalent of G900TUVU1BNF6? If so, you should be fine. You have a locked bootloader, but AFAIK that shouldn't interfere with wifi calling. You just need the features configured in the ROM.
Given your locked bootloader, you should do your research before you flash firmware from another carrier. Trying to flash a TMB bootloader, kernel or possibly even stock TMB recovery may put your bootloader in a position of having to choose between incrementing Knox or bricking your phone for you. And we're assuming that you wouldn't want that.
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mllk said:
Hey now!
I just rooted/flashed my AT&T Galaxy S5 with AllianceRom - Build 3 to use with T-mobile.
I would like to know if I can get wifi-calling and VoLTE to work with my phone with this ROM or would I need to download the stock Tmobile ROM in order for it to work?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks!
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VoLTE is modem specific. If you don't have the T-Mobile modem, you won't have VoLTE (so unless you want a brick, do NOT flash the T-Mobile radio to your ATT device. You will NEVER have VoLTE) I didn't have VoLTE until i flashed the NF6 (first update to include VoLTE) modem. Even with a T-Mobile device. Once i flashed the full tar that included the modem to NF6, i got VoLTE. So you will never have that.
As far as WiFi calling, as long as its present in the frameworks and ROM, last i understood, it should work. I know when i had my S4 people flashed a T-Mobile ROM to their ATT S4 and had WiFi calling. So long as you have a T-Mobile SIM as well. Ensure the ROM supports it as fffft stated.
elesbb said:
VoLTE is modem specific. If you don't have the T-Mobile modem, you won't have VoLTE (so unless you want a brick, do NOT flash the T-Mobile radio to your ATT device. You will NEVER have VoLTE) I didn't have VoLTE until i flashed the NF6 (first update to include VoLTE) modem. Even with a T-Mobile device. Once i flashed the full tar that included the modem to NF6, i got VoLTE. So you will never have that.
As far as WiFi calling, as long as its present in the frameworks and ROM, last i understood, it should work. I know when i had my S4 people flashed a T-Mobile ROM to their ATT S4 and had WiFi calling. So long as you have a T-Mobile SIM as well. Ensure the ROM supports it as fffft stated.
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THANKS!
I think the ROM I installed is somewhat broken. Root/SuperSU isn't working. I will try a different ROM.
mllk said:
THANKS!
I think the ROM I installed is somewhat broken. Root/SuperSU isn't working. I will try a different ROM.
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lol Alliance isn't broken.
aooga said:
lol Alliance isn't broken.
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It's 'broken' on the AT&T phone at least. Root is broken and can't root using towelroot either.
mllk said:
It's 'broken' on the AT&T phone at least. Root is broken and can't root using towelroot either.
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If root is broken on your phone, then redo your root. It certainly isn't broken for all ATT phones. Nor is the Alliance ROM likely to be broken for ATT phones i.e. 900A either. And of course you can use towel root. It's a good habit to do a forum search before posting.. then you'd be able to pose better informed questions.
To use towel root, you simply have to use a pre June 3rd stock ROM as a base. If necessary, use Odin to write a pre June 3rd 4.4.2 ATT firmware to your phone.
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fffft said:
If root is broken on your phone, then redo your root. It certainly isn't broken for all ATT phones. Nor is the Alliance ROM likely to be broken for ATT phones i.e. 900A either. And of course you can use towel root. It's a good habit to do a forum search before posting.. then you'd be able to pose better informed questions.
To use towel root, you simply have to use a pre June 3rd stock ROM as a base. If necessary, use Odin to write a pre June 3rd 4.4.2 ATT firmware to your phone.
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I used towel root in the first place to get my phone to install roms. I've no problems with root with AT&T roms.
Forgot to mention but the Alliance rom that I tried to install was made for t-mobile so I can use wifi-calling/ISIS. That might be the reason why root doesn't work?
If anyone is able to install tmobile specific rom on their AT&T s5, please help me out.
Thanks!
mllk said:
I used towel root in the first place to get my phone to install roms. I've no problems with root with AT&T roms.
Forgot to mention but the Alliance rom that I tried to install was made for t-mobile so I can use wifi-calling/ISIS. That might be the reason why root doesn't work?
If anyone is able to install tmobile specific rom on their AT&T s5, please help me out.
Thanks!
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Im on att s5 on tmobile alliance. all u need to do is rerun towel root and download busybox again. Once i did that everything worked correctly with root apps like titanium backup. Also good to know about the modem so that means we r f'd with volte unless the very unlikely att/verizon bootloader is unlocked.
mllk said:
Hey now!
I just rooted/flashed my AT&T Galaxy S5 with AllianceRom - Build 3 to use with T-mobile.
I would like to know if I can get wifi-calling and VoLTE to work with my phone with this ROM or would I need to download the stock Tmobile ROM in order for it to work?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks!
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I had the ATT gs4 using it with Tmobile and had the same issue and never solved it. Im not saying it cant be done but I was told I might be better off just trading my s4 for the tmobile version .. Ended up just buying a Tmobile s5 .. Also my bootloader was locked on my ATT s4 and that was reason enough to dump ATT . No kernels = No att for me
If you find a solution for wifi calling let me know. I do have a buddy with att s5 asking me about it
spirodave said:
I had the ATT gs4 using it with Tmobile and had the same issue and never solved it. Im not saying it cant be done but I was told I might be better off just trading my s4 for the tmobile version .. Ended up just buying a Tmobile s5 .. Also my bootloader was locked on my ATT s4 and that was reason enough to dump ATT . No kernels = No att for me
If you find a solution for wifi calling let me know. I do have a buddy with att s5 asking me about it
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I too am trying to figure this out. Also trying to find backups of any useful stock T-Mobile apps I don't have because of this being an AT&T S5...
kchannel9 said:
I too am trying to figure this out. Also trying to find backups of any useful stock T-Mobile apps I don't have because of this being an AT&T S5...
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I posted the solution in another thread. Basically, with a combination of the OA1 ATT firmware, safestrap and Alliance Rom, you can achieve Volte and Wifi calling with a tmobile sim card on a G900A.
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- be careful not to take the OC4 update from ATT, or it will not work.
Guillaume2x said:
I posted the solution in another thread. Basically, with a combination of the OA1 ATT firmware, safestrap and Alliance Rom, you can achieve Volte and Wifi calling with a tmobile sim card on a G900A.
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- be careful not to take the OC4 update from ATT, or it will not work.
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How can I make sure I'm not on the OC4 update? I am new to messing with anything AT&T...
Thank you so much! I'm going to give it a try soon.
kchannel9 said:
How can I make sure I'm not on the OC4 update? I am new to messing with anything AT&T...
Thank you so much! I'm going to give it a try soon.
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You can go to About Device in the settings, and look at the last three characters of the Base version field. If you see NCE, ND3, NG3 or OA1 you're fine.
It seems that I can try to follow the instructions on this thread but not sure what ATT firmware I should be installing since new updates have been released since OA1. Can someone tell me if I should install entire Tmobile ROM including modem with Odin?
Guillaume2x said:
Guys, I have some great news. Both wifi calling AND VoLTE now work on my SM-G900A on the T-mobile network. Here is what I did:
I installed the latest ATT firmware (OA1), released earlier this February. OTA update did not work, so I had to flash the original firmware (ANCE) via Odin, and then flash the two subsequent updates using update.zip on the SD Card. This will remove safestrap and root, but fear not.
Once my phone had AO1 installed, I used this tutorial to root the phone again. It invonves temporarily flashing an earlier (ND3) kernel, using TowelRoot, and then reflashing the OA1 kernel
With my OA1 rooted, I installed safestrap. Make sure you install busybox first.
With safestrap, I installed the T-mobile Alliance Rom (build B4).
Seconds after booting, both Wifi Calling and Voice over LTE work!
Enjoy!
Guillaume
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Hey. After spending hours trying to discover a working method to root my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4, I've succeeded. Now, I want to try to install some sort of bootloader like TWRP or something so I can install a custom ROM. What do I install and HOW do I install a bootloader? I'm confused. I also want to install the the latest CyanogenMod for it. I think I can do that on my own after getting a bootloader installed on my phone, but what file am I supposed to be installing is the question. Thank you for any and all help. This is my first smartphone, so I'm trying to figure this out.
GogoplataMMA said:
Hey. After spending hours trying to discover a working method to root my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4, I've succeeded. Now, I want to try to install some sort of bootloader like TWRP or something so I can install a custom ROM. What do I install and HOW do I install a bootloader? I'm confused. I also want to install the the latest CyanogenMod for it. I think I can do that on my own after getting a bootloader installed on my phone, but what file am I supposed to be installing is the question. Thank you for any and all help. This is my first smartphone, so I'm trying to figure this out.
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Right now the bootloader is still locked down for the Verizon (unless your phone is on the MDK bootloader). So unfortunately you won't be able to do more than root the phone. You can use Safestrap to use some ROMs, but I don't think CM exists for the Verizon S4.
toaster22 said:
Right now the bootloader is still locked down for the Verizon (unless your phone is on the MDK bootloader). So unfortunately you won't be able to do more than root the phone. You can use Safestrap to use some ROMs, but I don't think CM exists for the Verizon S4.
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Oh, that's a shame. I was looking forward to this part. I wondered why I only found outdated information or a lack of information. I don't even know what a good ROM would be for this phone if there's no Cyanogen for it. Well I appreciate your reply very much. Thank you.
GogoplataMMA said:
Oh, that's a shame. I was looking forward to this part. I wondered why I only found outdated information or a lack of information. I don't even know what a good ROM would be for this phone if there's no Cyanogen for it. Well I appreciate your reply very much. Thank you.
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There is a Cyanogen build for the Verizon GS4 but as mentioned, only for folks with the MDK bootloader. Only TouchWiz based roms can be used with SafeStrap - no AOSP based roms (yet).
To see what bootlader you are on, just go to ABOUT PHONE under settings.