Wanting to buy the Gear S but without a monthly paid subscription from a carrier (because they oblige me to sign the contract for 2 years, and i know I am not going to keep the Gear S that much time) , but i want to know what options should i request for the pre-paid SIM.
More internet or more voice minutes or more SMS?
the transfer from phone to watch (when not connected through BT) is made through data transfer or through voice? the paid subscription does not specify that.
nobody knows what type of communication the watch uses, except BT?
bogdan_wrc said:
nobody knows what type of communication the watch uses, except BT?
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Your questions are a little confusing.
If your watch it connect to bluetooth on phone then everything uses phone. Data voice everything. If its not. Connected to phone it can use wifi or mobile data
gottahavit said:
Your questions are a little confusing.
If your watch it connect to bluetooth on phone then everything uses phone. Data voice everything. If its not. Connected to phone it can use wifi or mobile data
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i do not understand your answer.
ok, than let me rephrase.
if the watch is not connected to the phone through BT (due to the fact that the phone is away from the watch), how the notifications are sent from phone to watch? through data transfer or through voice transfer?
the pre-pay SIM used in watch allow me to choose between 1gb of data transfer or 1000 voice minutes per month.
bogdan_wrc said:
i do not understand your answer.
ok, than let me rephrase.
if the watch is not connected to the phone through BT (due to the fact that the phone is away from the watch), how the notifications are sent from phone to watch? through data transfer or through voice transfer?
the pre-pay SIM used in watch allow me to choose between 1gb of data transfer or 1000 voice minutes per month.
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When you place phone calls it will use minutes. When you use internet for browsing or syncing remotely or dowloading it will use data. Trade off is personal choice. Personally i would go with minutes since i have a sim for emergency only. However i went with a payg that gives me a little of both.
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Wanting to buy the Gear S but without a monthly paid subscription from a carrier (because they oblige me to sign the contract for 2 years, and i know I am not going to keep the Gear S that much time) , but i want to know what options should i request for the pre-paid SIM.
More internet or more voice minutes or more SMS?
the transfer from phone to watch (when not connected through BT) is made through data transfer or through voice? the paid subscription does not specify that.
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Unless the two devices are on the same carrier you'll be using all 3.. Minutes, sms and data. The gear doesn't use much data but u can get all 3 pretty cheap on prepaid
zoso28 said:
Unless the two devices are on the same carrier you'll be using all 3.. Minutes, sms and data. The gear doesn't use much data but u can get all 3 pretty cheap on prepaid
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out of curiosity, what does being on the same carrier have to do with anything?
gottahavit said:
out of curiosity, what does being on the same carrier have to do with anything?
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Well if you already have a plan with them you can just add the gear for $5-$10 a month without a contract. And some carriers have unlimited calling/sms between prepaid & postpaid accounts which would give you unlimited forwarding. The data part is trickier but I'm on an at&t account with the watch and it has used under 50mb in almost 30 days.
my devices will be on the same carrier. i will chose the option for unlimited minutes and SMS and use wifi and phone data transfer..
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Is it possible to get the Titan to work on any service (US) without paying for the data plan? Ignore for a second that it has Wifi, i mean actually using a data plan without paying for the service. I was thinking with that, I could see about sourcing a WM6 SIp Softphone and run it through my Sip Server I run at home.
http://www.tvlesson.com/video/1125_how-to-hack-verizon-wireless-phone.html
See, these guys, on Verizon, changed their phone to use the guy's home proxy server. Now, of course, to get to your home proxy server, it would still need to traverse the Verizon network to be able to get to there. I wonder if it would be possible to get to that point.
This too:
http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/free-mobile-web-hack-verizon-wireless-02160220/
Basically what I was thinking is that with Google Voice + Gizmo, if I could get this thing on the internet, I could get a SIP Softphone and basically have unlimited calls on a mobile phone for $10 a year.
/bump to see if anyone has any suggestions
It isnt possbile to use data and not pay for it. I dont know if you can have friends and family on pay as you go. But you could add the google voice number to that list and then have free calling.
The alternative, I guess, would be to have it as a WiFi enabled SIP Phone. Not as good, but unless they make a micro Clear antennae adapter thats USB, I can't see another way. Verizon's data plans are ridiculously expensive when not packaged with a voice plan $50 a month for 5gbs, so that doesnt seem like a feasible option for this idea.
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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In terms of GPS, you are correct, you would have to purchase a third party GPS app for that (since google maps doesn't cache. Well it does, but if you find yourself lost after choosing a route and don't have wifi available then you are forced to turn on data so it can redownload your route, since it only caches your route and nearby streets.) To block incoming phone calls you just set up unconditional call forwarding (**21*18056377243# send) which will forward all of your calls to VoiceMail. The 1805 number can be replaced with your VM provider of choice (ie Google voice.) To undo, just dial ##21# and send. After that just disable data roaming and you are good.
In terms of stopping IM/SMS/MMS, just have care add message blocking (or better yet, go to your tmobile account and add it from there) its a free service that blocks all incoming or outgoing sms/mms/email as sms/IM. Sometimes the reps will just add the sms/mms block so you might want to add it yourself from the site.
Also if you purchased the vibrant on a contract then you can't remove your data.
pyrusman said:
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
Col.Kernel said:
Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
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this ^^
If you did not want to get a SIM, you could just take your t-mo sim out. This way you could still use wifi, then use Google voice for texts and VM.
Guys I'm totally new to smartphones so I need an advise. I would like to buy myself Moto Atrix but I don't want to buy a data plan for it. I plan on using Rogers pay-as-you-go voice sim card and use wifi for data. Is that even possible on the smartphone? Also I plan on using this phone in europe so question is would a pre paid voice sim work on this phone in europe? Oh and one more question if the voice sim with wifi for data would work would I be able to use all the internet apps on the phone or some would not work over wifi?
Thanks for your time
It is possible and a great way to save money. As long as rogers supports quad band GSM and not CMDA (like verizon), then you can use the voice and texting features of this phone all you wish.
Some things to note:
The phone must be unlocked and have some kind of wifi connection established to set up a motoblur account, (buy a used one not a new one).
Google Maps and navigation will not work unless you can find some kind of cacheing program.
Voice actions will not work, they require the google servers to process your voice.
Rogers may decide to change your service manually if they are like At&t. Check out other GSM networks if they try to do this to you.
Thanks for a quick reply. Now why should I buy a used phone? I think right now new/used prices are close. Also would google maps work in a wifi hotspot? I know that I can't use it unless I'm in the wifi hotspot. The same thing with voice commands souldn't they work as long as I'm in the wifi hotspot? I plan on using CoPilot software on the phone so I guess I wouldn't need any data connection for that right?
Thanks
If you are in a wifi hotspot, your phone will work identically to a phone with a data plan. You must buy it used because to activate moto blur initially, you must have a data connetion (data plan) to sign in, or else it wont let you continue (You cannot enable wifi yet).
Oh I didn't know about motoblur account. Is there a way around that by rooting the phone? What about using my firends sim with data to do that?
I think the process fails and then it'll ask you if you want to connect via wifi..no need for a data connection..
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veshio said:
You must buy it used because to activate moto blur initially, you must have a data connetion (data plan) to sign in, or else it wont let you continue (You cannot enable wifi yet).
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No it's not true. I signed up a motoblur account over the WiFi. I bought mine at costco.com as an upgrade to my original ATT HTC Fuze and I do not have a data plan.
Sean
you can make a blur account on the internet from a real computer
Just add data and quit being cheap. They make basic phones for people who don't see the value in paying for internet.
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Hi, i am planning to buy this watch but here are my concerns:
I'm planning to put my data sim on the Gear S and my company is having 2 APNs, one for WORK and one for INTERNET, so one of my question is, Can i set two APNs on gear S and interchange with it quickly?
My other question is, when my gear S has a 3g sim on it(only data sim) and my phone does not have internet, when i pair my phone WITHOUT INTERNET, will it have an internet thru my gear S data sim?
thanks.
rmlsalta said:
Hi, i am planning to buy this watch but here are my concerns:
My other question is, when my gear S has a 3g sim on it(only data sim) and my phone does not have internet, when i pair my phone WITHOUT INTERNET, will it have an internet thru my gear S data sim?
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Unfortunatley, you can't tether your phone to your Gear S for data: in this scenario, you will have data on your Gear S, but not on your phone, unless someone figured out a work-around for this.
This scenario makes the most usage sense to me, BTW: have all the connectivity on your wrist, and use a tablet or phone if you need a larger screen. I'd ditch my phone and just keep a tablet. The battery of the current Gear S would not last very long used this way, though.
In regards to 2 APN's, you can easily set them up. Mine has two settings: one for data and one for MMS. You have to select to have data always on, or be disconnected from your phone, in order to get into the greyed out Gear S settings for APNs. I am however not sure if the watch saves the two settings, so you can switch back and forth easily. Hope someone else can answer this. My guess is yes, because I can "add" a new APN, not just "edit" the current one under data.
xendula said:
Unfortunatley, you can't tether your phone to your Gear S for data: in this scenario, you will have data on your Gear S, but not on your phone, unless someone figured out a work-around for this.
This scenario makes the most usage sense to me, BTW: have all the connectivity on your wrist, and use a tablet or phone if you need a larger screen. I'd ditch my phone and just keep a tablet. The battery of the current Gear S would not last very long used this way, though.
In regards to 2 APN's, you can easily set them up. Mine has two settings: one for data and one for MMS. You have to select to have data always on, or be disconnected from your phone, in order to get into the greyed out Gear S settings for APNs. I am however not sure if the watch saves the two settings, so you can switch back and forth easily. Hope someone else can answer this. My guess is yes, because I can "add" a new APN, not just "edit" the current one under data.
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Thanks, regards with editing apn, is it via watch or via phone(gear manager)?
rmlsalta said:
Thanks, regards with editing apn, is it via watch or via phone(gear manager)?
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Via the watch itself.
Not sure about swapping apns, it is enuff of a headache swapping sim cards from the phone to the watch.
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Some European providers offer another ( a 2nd) SIM card associated to the primary subscription for use only with internet. It means a second SIM to use for data transfer.
will that be helpful for the Gear S or just add another SIM with another number to use with voice?
when not connected through BT to the phone, but is connected wireless, what type of connection does the watch use? data or voice?
bogdan_wrc said:
Some European providers offer another ( a 2nd) SIM card associated to the primary subscription for use only with internet. It means a second SIM to use for data transfer.
will that be helpful for the Gear S or just add another SIM with another number to use with voice?
when not connected through BT to the phone, but is connected wireless, what type of connection does the watch use? data or voice?
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It's better to have the voice and data because it will have a number anyway so why not but if you don't care to forward your calls to the watch or don't plan to use the watch standalone number then by all means data only if the data plan is right for you ie unlimited or more than 200MB per month