Some European providers offer another ( a 2nd) SIM card associated to the primary subscription for use only with internet. It means a second SIM to use for data transfer.
will that be helpful for the Gear S or just add another SIM with another number to use with voice?
when not connected through BT to the phone, but is connected wireless, what type of connection does the watch use? data or voice?
bogdan_wrc said:
Some European providers offer another ( a 2nd) SIM card associated to the primary subscription for use only with internet. It means a second SIM to use for data transfer.
will that be helpful for the Gear S or just add another SIM with another number to use with voice?
when not connected through BT to the phone, but is connected wireless, what type of connection does the watch use? data or voice?
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It's better to have the voice and data because it will have a number anyway so why not but if you don't care to forward your calls to the watch or don't plan to use the watch standalone number then by all means data only if the data plan is right for you ie unlimited or more than 200MB per month
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I have a Siemens SX56 using AT&T Wireless as a carrier.
The phone is running the following:
ROM Verison: 3.14.03 ENG
ROM Date: 09/27/02
Radio Version: 6.12
Protocol Version: 324e4
My question is:
I would like to connect to a traditional ISP. I have talked to AT&T and they said when I go to the internet, I have to connect using their GPRS network. They said that if I used another ISP I would not have to pay them to use the internet. DUH! this is what I want to do. Any advice would be appreciated...
Thanks!!!
Bob
You can connect to the Internet using GPRS. This, in essence, would make AT&T your Internet Provider. You can choose to get your mail at your existing provider (but you must use AT&T's server for outbound mail). Other than that, your 'normal' ISP has nothing to do with you once you connect through AT&T using GPRS.
You could, theoretically, also connect using the GSM as an ordinary modem, by dialing your old ISP, making what's called a 'GSM data call'. This would however limit throughput to roughly 9600 bps, and it would not have the nice 'always on' property of GPRS. It would be cheaper per bit (in most cases) for large downloads though. Go figure.
i want to make a gsm data call
I do want to make a GSM data call. at&t charges an arm and a leg for data access, that usimg my regular ISP even at 9600 baud would be great.
when I try to set up anything other than GPRS, it says "there is no answer". I called siemens and the said at&t disabled anything other than GPRS.
what I want to know is can I enable that ability which I know the phone can do?
Thanks
Bob
GSM data calls can be made from most phones, but AT&T may have disabled this call type for anyone but those paying for a 'data subscription'. With most providers a data subscription just means you get a seperate phone number in order to be able to receive incoming calls from analogue modems.
GSM providers are weird. For instance O2 in The Netherlands blocks fax calls for some unknown reason, but passes GSM data calls.
I must not be clear...
OK... I must not be clear, so I will try to be more clear in my question.
First a little background:
I have AT&T wireless with a data subscription. My current subscription is for 8 Megabytes per month. I would like to use the web, but with only an 8 Megabyte limit (which is AT&T's highest data level subscription that you can buy) I can not do much on the Internet.
I know that a GSM data call is slower. I know that it is not always on like GPRS. Because of the data limit of my current AT&T data subscription I want to make a data call from my phone to my ISP.
I have setup a ISP connection profile in the connections area on the phone. When I dial the ISP the phone responds with a message that says "the number you dialed is not answering" this is a text based message, not a voice message. I know the phone is answering because I can call it from my home pc or just dial it from the cell phone and it answers. I was told by siemens that AT&T turned the GSM Data portion of the phone off. I am hoping they turned it off with software and its a setting or something I can change in the registry to enable it again.
So in summary:
I do pay for a GPRS data subscription ($25.00 for 8 Megabytes / month)
I would really like to also use GSM data as an option for getting to the Internet when I do not want to use up my 8 Megabyte limit on GPRS.
I really have appreciated your comments and your help. I hope I am being more clear in my question now.
Thanks,
Bob
I'll try to be more clear as well then...
Try calling your provider and see whether they support GSM data calls from 'normal' subscriptions. And with normal subscription, I'm not talking about whether or not the subscription has GPRS, but I mean any subscription that doesn't get you a special phone number for incoming data calls.
There's plenty of providers that do not provide normal data calls, even to subscribers that pay extra to get GPRS. Most of this practice did end when WAP was believed to become big, but some may have limited data calls to their own WAP access numbers.
Should your provider still offer separate numbers for analogue and ISDN, try calling both types to see what happens, and do play around with both call types (analogue & ISDN) from your XDA. (Under 'Settings' / 'Connections' / 'CSD Line Type' in modern ROMs)
Good Luck...
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I am trying to do the same thing with my 02 XDA, and i get the same message saying it is not answering. However, i can dial my ISP using a GSM connection, as i have done this using my nokia 7650 connected via IRDA to my PC, and useing it as a modem. However i cannot get the same connection to work using my XDA. Very strange, so if anyone can help.
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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In terms of GPS, you are correct, you would have to purchase a third party GPS app for that (since google maps doesn't cache. Well it does, but if you find yourself lost after choosing a route and don't have wifi available then you are forced to turn on data so it can redownload your route, since it only caches your route and nearby streets.) To block incoming phone calls you just set up unconditional call forwarding (**21*18056377243# send) which will forward all of your calls to VoiceMail. The 1805 number can be replaced with your VM provider of choice (ie Google voice.) To undo, just dial ##21# and send. After that just disable data roaming and you are good.
In terms of stopping IM/SMS/MMS, just have care add message blocking (or better yet, go to your tmobile account and add it from there) its a free service that blocks all incoming or outgoing sms/mms/email as sms/IM. Sometimes the reps will just add the sms/mms block so you might want to add it yourself from the site.
Also if you purchased the vibrant on a contract then you can't remove your data.
pyrusman said:
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
Col.Kernel said:
Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
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this ^^
If you did not want to get a SIM, you could just take your t-mo sim out. This way you could still use wifi, then use Google voice for texts and VM.
Guys I'm totally new to smartphones so I need an advise. I would like to buy myself Moto Atrix but I don't want to buy a data plan for it. I plan on using Rogers pay-as-you-go voice sim card and use wifi for data. Is that even possible on the smartphone? Also I plan on using this phone in europe so question is would a pre paid voice sim work on this phone in europe? Oh and one more question if the voice sim with wifi for data would work would I be able to use all the internet apps on the phone or some would not work over wifi?
Thanks for your time
It is possible and a great way to save money. As long as rogers supports quad band GSM and not CMDA (like verizon), then you can use the voice and texting features of this phone all you wish.
Some things to note:
The phone must be unlocked and have some kind of wifi connection established to set up a motoblur account, (buy a used one not a new one).
Google Maps and navigation will not work unless you can find some kind of cacheing program.
Voice actions will not work, they require the google servers to process your voice.
Rogers may decide to change your service manually if they are like At&t. Check out other GSM networks if they try to do this to you.
Thanks for a quick reply. Now why should I buy a used phone? I think right now new/used prices are close. Also would google maps work in a wifi hotspot? I know that I can't use it unless I'm in the wifi hotspot. The same thing with voice commands souldn't they work as long as I'm in the wifi hotspot? I plan on using CoPilot software on the phone so I guess I wouldn't need any data connection for that right?
Thanks
If you are in a wifi hotspot, your phone will work identically to a phone with a data plan. You must buy it used because to activate moto blur initially, you must have a data connetion (data plan) to sign in, or else it wont let you continue (You cannot enable wifi yet).
Oh I didn't know about motoblur account. Is there a way around that by rooting the phone? What about using my firends sim with data to do that?
I think the process fails and then it'll ask you if you want to connect via wifi..no need for a data connection..
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You must buy it used because to activate moto blur initially, you must have a data connetion (data plan) to sign in, or else it wont let you continue (You cannot enable wifi yet).
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No it's not true. I signed up a motoblur account over the WiFi. I bought mine at costco.com as an upgrade to my original ATT HTC Fuze and I do not have a data plan.
Sean
you can make a blur account on the internet from a real computer
Just add data and quit being cheap. They make basic phones for people who don't see the value in paying for internet.
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Wanting to buy the Gear S but without a monthly paid subscription from a carrier (because they oblige me to sign the contract for 2 years, and i know I am not going to keep the Gear S that much time) , but i want to know what options should i request for the pre-paid SIM.
More internet or more voice minutes or more SMS?
the transfer from phone to watch (when not connected through BT) is made through data transfer or through voice? the paid subscription does not specify that.
nobody knows what type of communication the watch uses, except BT?
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nobody knows what type of communication the watch uses, except BT?
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Your questions are a little confusing.
If your watch it connect to bluetooth on phone then everything uses phone. Data voice everything. If its not. Connected to phone it can use wifi or mobile data
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Your questions are a little confusing.
If your watch it connect to bluetooth on phone then everything uses phone. Data voice everything. If its not. Connected to phone it can use wifi or mobile data
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i do not understand your answer.
ok, than let me rephrase.
if the watch is not connected to the phone through BT (due to the fact that the phone is away from the watch), how the notifications are sent from phone to watch? through data transfer or through voice transfer?
the pre-pay SIM used in watch allow me to choose between 1gb of data transfer or 1000 voice minutes per month.
bogdan_wrc said:
i do not understand your answer.
ok, than let me rephrase.
if the watch is not connected to the phone through BT (due to the fact that the phone is away from the watch), how the notifications are sent from phone to watch? through data transfer or through voice transfer?
the pre-pay SIM used in watch allow me to choose between 1gb of data transfer or 1000 voice minutes per month.
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When you place phone calls it will use minutes. When you use internet for browsing or syncing remotely or dowloading it will use data. Trade off is personal choice. Personally i would go with minutes since i have a sim for emergency only. However i went with a payg that gives me a little of both.
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Wanting to buy the Gear S but without a monthly paid subscription from a carrier (because they oblige me to sign the contract for 2 years, and i know I am not going to keep the Gear S that much time) , but i want to know what options should i request for the pre-paid SIM.
More internet or more voice minutes or more SMS?
the transfer from phone to watch (when not connected through BT) is made through data transfer or through voice? the paid subscription does not specify that.
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Unless the two devices are on the same carrier you'll be using all 3.. Minutes, sms and data. The gear doesn't use much data but u can get all 3 pretty cheap on prepaid
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Unless the two devices are on the same carrier you'll be using all 3.. Minutes, sms and data. The gear doesn't use much data but u can get all 3 pretty cheap on prepaid
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out of curiosity, what does being on the same carrier have to do with anything?
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out of curiosity, what does being on the same carrier have to do with anything?
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Well if you already have a plan with them you can just add the gear for $5-$10 a month without a contract. And some carriers have unlimited calling/sms between prepaid & postpaid accounts which would give you unlimited forwarding. The data part is trickier but I'm on an at&t account with the watch and it has used under 50mb in almost 30 days.
my devices will be on the same carrier. i will chose the option for unlimited minutes and SMS and use wifi and phone data transfer..
Hi all,
I'm gonna buy an e-Sim, never had one before.
Wondering if, while waiting for my phone number to be moved to the new company E-Sim, if I can set voice calls to Sim and mobile data internet to E-Sim.
Thanks!
Your knowledge about esims is totally wrong they are not what u think about them esim is inbuilt in new smartphones which prevents the use of physical sim card and u can use multiple esims in one device like profiles they just need one time setup
Thanks for your answer.
I don't have knowledge about esims, and that's why I asked esperts.
In any case, I know about profile, multiple profiles (and one profile at a time use on certain devices), my question was a little bit different.
When I had a dual sim phone, I set the first sim for voice and messages and the second sim for mobile data. Second sim had a much better signal and many more Gb plan.
Now I have Pixel6, I have a phisical sim (and my phone numer on it)m and I'm going to buy an e-sim from a different operator. They'll give me unlimited GB, so I thouhgt, while waiting for the old phone number to be transfered on the new e-sim, to use the esim profile for mobile internet data only.
Basically: voice calls: sim 1 (physical sim)
messages: sim 1
Mobile internet data: sim2 (e-sim).
That's what I was asking, is it possible?
Yea everything is possible
U can do it
i am using a esim for voice and a sim for data.
and it pisses me off that i can not talk and surf at the same time.
for me the voice cannot be active and have the data in use at the same time
Is it activated
nutzfreelance said:
i am using a esim for voice and a sim for data.
and it pisses me off that i can not talk and surf at the same time.
for me the voice cannot be active and have the data in use at the same time
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Strange, my wife is using a P6 with voice on e-SIM and data on physical SIM. So it's possible.