Has anyone taken the 12b update yet and succesfully downgraded back to 10b, just wanted to know as I may be doing it soon.
Im all to used to not taking upgrades from owning samsung phones as they have made it almost impossible to go back after taking an update.
nuke235 said:
Has anyone taken the 12b update yet and succesfully downgraded back to 10b, just wanted to know as I may be doing it soon.
Im all to used to not taking upgrades from owning samsung phones as they have made it almost impossible to go back after taking an update.
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Yes you can downgrade to 10b with using the KDZ file.
Before you ask, yes I have the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Jimi Mack said:
Yes you can downgrade to 10b with using the KDZ file.
Before you ask, yes I have the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
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Thanks, Ive already followed the guide for downgrading, just didnt want to take 12b unless downgrade was possible
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I have read and appears that I have to downgrade but I am not sure. Please advise
Thanks
docmarioce said:
I have read and appears that I have to downgrade but I am not sure. Please advise
Thanks
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What you read is correct. You have to downgrade to 10b to root. After that, if you want to go back to 12b rooted, do NOT bump with TWRP. Instead, tell SuperSU to maintain root across OTAs and then take each OTA as it comes. When you are finally on 12b, you can either leave it as is (not bumped) or install TWRP to bump it. Reason you cannot bump is because you need the stock recovery (not TWRP) to install the OTAs.
How do we go about doing that process? Can someone point me in that direction plz
mrlee19 said:
How do we go about doing that process? Can someone point me in that direction plz
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general forum, return to stock thread.
Ok just asking because ive saw a few post.. And ppl were saying that method wasnt working but ill check again.. Thanks
mrlee19 said:
Ok just asking because ive saw a few post.. And ppl were saying that method wasnt working but ill check again.. Thanks
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if the "tot" method doesnt work, the "kdz" should. but afterwards, you still need to use the tot method to get back on the update path.
iBolski said:
What you read is correct. You have to downgrade to 10b to root. After that, if you want to go back to 12b rooted, do NOT bump with TWRP. Instead, tell SuperSU to maintain root across OTAs and then take each OTA as it comes. When you are finally on 12b, you can either leave it as is (not bumped) or install TWRP to bump it. Reason you cannot bump is because you need the stock recovery (not TWRP) to install the OTAs.
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Thanks I have downgraded and rooted my phone. I want to be able to install kit Kat ROMs. I don't care about taking OTA to 12B if I can install ROMs based in 12B anyway. Should I bump with TWRP? Are there any bumped ROMs that are worth it? I am not planning in installing android L in my device in the future anyways since my Samsung Gear 2 watch won't work with it. I just want to start flashing this phone away.
Thanks
docmarioce said:
Thanks I have downgraded and rooted my phone. I want to be able to install kit Kat ROMs. I don't care about taking OTA to 12B if I can install ROMs based in 12B anyway. Should I bump with TWRP? Are there any bumped ROMs that are worth it? I am not planning in installing android L in my device in the future anyways since my Samsung Gear 2 watch won't work with it. I just want to start flashing this phone away.
Thanks
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Before you can even begin to flash ROMs, you have to install TWRP.
As for which ROMs are worth it, I have no idea. Most are LP ROMs and currently LP is not completely stable and there still are issues to be worked out.
I myself am happy running full stock 12B rooted. I am bumped in case I want to flash a ROM, but at this time, I don't have any desire to flash a ROM at the current moment.
Best thing is to go and read about the ROMs in the developer section. Note what issues people are having and which ROM is best for you is up to you. Everyone has their preferences. Asking "which ROM is the best" is not a question that can be answered since it's all down to personal preferences and what issues you can live with.
If you have twrp installed. First thing you have to do is backup your stock rom
You don't "bump with twrp".
Normally code in the bootloader prevents the loading of unsigned stuff like kernels and custom recoveries. That includes TWRP, but Team Codefire figured out a way to fake the signature onto things like twrp and aosp ROMs, by changing slightly their images. This allows them to load.
iBolski said:
Before you can even begin to flash ROMs, you have to install TWRP.
As for which ROMs are worth it, I have no idea. Most are LP ROMs and currently LP is not completely stable and there still are issues to be worked out.
I myself am happy running full stock 12B rooted. I am bumped in case I want to flash a ROM, but at this time, I don't have any desire to flash a ROM at the current moment.
Best thing is to go and read about the ROMs in the developer section. Note what issues people are having and which ROM is best for you is up to you. Everyone has their preferences. Asking "which ROM is the best" is not a question that can be answered since it's all down to personal preferences and what issues you can live with.
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A quick question: If you had to flash back to 10b to be Rooted and Bumped how did you wind up on a fully stock 12b rooted and bumped if you did not flash a rom. You should not have been able to upgrade if you downgraded your phone to 10b to root and bump which if I recall takes away the ability to upgrade to 12b while rooted and bumped without flashing a rom. Or do you have another method? Thanks.
Jimi Mack said:
A quick question: If you had to flash back to 10b to be Rooted and Bumped how did you wind up on a fully stock 12b rooted and bumped if you did not flash a rom. You should not have been able to upgrade if you downgraded your phone to 10b to root and bump which if I recall takes away the ability to upgrade to 12b while rooted and bumped without flashing a rom. Or do you have another method? Thanks.
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So far from all I have read, users have been able to progress from 10B to 11C and on to 12B all while maintaining root. You can only gain root, however, while on 10B. Once you have root you can install TWRP whenever. However, you cannot take an OTA while you have TWRP installed....I mean you can, but you'll get stuck in a boot loop By far the easiest and best thing to do if you're looking for stability and compatibility of stock would be to install an awesome, stock-based rom like Jasmine rom - that way you get all the benefits of the latest VZW updates, while keeping all the stability of full stock, and not "risking" anything by accidentally accepting some OTA down the road. Just my 2 cents!
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A quick question: If you had to flash back to 10b to be Rooted and Bumped how did you wind up on a fully stock 12b rooted and bumped if you did not flash a rom. You should not have been able to upgrade if you downgraded your phone to 10b to root and bump which if I recall takes away the ability to upgrade to 12b while rooted and bumped without flashing a rom. Or do you have another method? Thanks.
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I didn't bump until after I otad to 12b. First, I stumped rooted on 10b. Then I told SuperSU to maintain root across otas. Once I updated to 12b, that's when I bumped in case I wanted to flash a rom or do a nandroid backup.
Of course, if a new ota comes out, I'll have to downgrade back to 10b and root again before I can take it.
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I didn't bump until after I otad to 12b. First, I stumped rooted on 10b. Then intokd SuperSU to maintain root across otas. Once I updated to 12b, that's when I bumped in case I wanted to flash a rom or do a nandroid backup.
Of course, if a new ota comes out, I'll have to downgrade back to 10b and root again before I can take it.
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That is what I had thought but was not sure if I missed a method other than that, thank you.
Hey guys. Just got a lg g3 off swappa. Just wanted some information regarding the current state of root/custom roms. Also...should/can I update to the latest OTA or is it only rootable up to a certain version? Thanks!!
dont take no ota's. if u r on 10b u can root and add a recovery by bump. if u r on a later software like 11c or 12b u can go back.
hi. thanks for getting black. can you still root the latest ota?
corz123 said:
hi. thanks for getting black. can you still root the latest ota?
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Thanks for asking that question! I also picked up a red one off swappa this week to play with., and wanted to know the same. Off to find the downgrade instructions, I'm on 12B.
Curious that you guys would buy a phone that's been out for a while, then look into root and roms.
Would have sucked if there was no way past a certain build.
Just a thought for the future.
All versions can be rooted ATM, iirc. Stump root only works on 10b. There is a different method using adb for other versions. You can downgrade backwards to 10b from all.
Latest ota is 12b. The 23a and 23b ROMs u may see are leaked builds and not official OTA.
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Ok, long story short:
I odin'd to official NK4, took OTA to 5.0, redid TWRP via odin, was rooted. I ended up borking 5.0 (doing something dumb without reading). The only way I could get my phone operational again was to flash NK4 rom via TWRP. Now my question is, since there is no 5.0 zip available yet, can I odin back to NK4 then re-take the ota? I know downgrading is usually a no-no, but I do know there are times it is ok.
Thoughts?
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Ok, long story short:
I odin'd to official NK4, took OTA to 5.0, redid TWRP via odin, was rooted. I ended up borking 5.0 (doing something dumb without reading). The only way I could get my phone operational again was to flash NK4 rom via TWRP. Now my question is, since there is no 5.0 zip available yet, can I odin back to NK4 then re-take the ota? I know downgrading is usually a no-no, but I do know there are times it is ok.
Thoughts?
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That's exactly what I did and it worked with no problems.
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cmf04 said:
That's exactly what I did and it worked with no problems.
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If you fully upgraded to 5.0 and it didn't take then yes you can unroot, odin back to nk4 stock and retake the OTA. However, if you did take the OTA and it took, you cannot go backwards. Once you update the bootloader you cannot go to a previous build.
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If you fully upgraded to 5.0 and it didn't take then yes you can unroot, odin back to nk4 stock and retake the OTA. However, if you did take the OTA and it took, you cannot go backwards. Once you update the bootloader you cannot go to a previous build.
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Incorrect. I just did the downgrade and it went fine.
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Incorrect. I just did the downgrade and it went fine.
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Then you weren't fully 100% on Lollipop via the OTA. Maybe whatever it was you stated happened didn't allow a complete install of the OTA so you were able to downgrade. I did say that if it didn't fully take then you could downgrade because you were still running the NK4 bootloader. Either way I'm glad you got it situated. How is it running so far? I'm thinking about doing the same thing but I've waited this long. Whats another couple days for a dev to deodex it and push it to us.
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Then you weren't fully 100% on Lollipop via the OTA. Maybe whatever it was you stated happened didn't allow a complete install of the OTA so you were able to downgrade. I did say that if it didn't fully take then you could downgrade because you were still running the NK4 bootloader. Either way I'm glad you got it situated. How is it running so far? I'm thinking about doing the same thing but I've waited this long. Whats another couple days for a dev to deodex it and push it to us.
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I can assure you i was full ota. I find it odd myself. I'm doing it for a third time right now to verify.
jlechner said:
I can assure you i was full ota. I find it odd myself. I'm doing it for a third time right now to verify.
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Ok but be careful. This is quite interesting if you can downgrade.
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Ok but be careful. This is quite interesting if you can downgrade.
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Lollipop runs pretty smooth btw. No xposed yet though. I've seen some complaints about some aesthetics also. But i liked it for the whole 30 mins i had it lol.
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Lollipop runs pretty smooth btw. No xposed yet though. I've seen some complaints about some aesthetics also. But i liked it for the whole 30 mins i had it lol.
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LoL. I guess I'll dive into it later then for the firmware alone.
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LoL. I guess I'll dive into it later then for the firmware alone.
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3rd time worked also... lol
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I can assure you i was full ota. I find it odd myself. I'm doing it for a third time right now to verify.
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I can also confirm this worked for me. I've gone back to NK4 and then OTA'd to OC5 twice without issue.
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travisw0204 said:
If you fully upgraded to 5.0 and it didn't take then yes you can unroot, odin back to nk4 stock and retake the OTA. However, if you did take the OTA and it took, you cannot go backwards. Once you update the bootloader you cannot go to a previous build.
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My understanding is when you Odin the full .tar, you write the bootloader, so yes, it's possible to go back to early versions.
I believe what you are thinking of is restoring backup of a previous version after you've updated the bootloader. That is usually a big no-no (with some exceptions).
I see a lot of I used this kdz, that tot file or I did my buddy's phone blah blah blah.
Is there a clear cut guide to downgrade from 23C to a 4.4.4 or 4.4.2 whatever the last pre LP version was??
Thanks in advance
joe3681 said:
I see a lot of I used this kdz, that tot file or I did my buddy's phone blah blah blah.
Is there a clear cut guide to downgrade from 23C to a 4.4.4 or 4.4.2 whatever the last pre LP version was??
Thanks in advance
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Using TOT and KDZ is the only way to downgrade. When you say to the last LP version, 23C is the only lollipop update so you will have to go back to KitKat if you don't want lollipop.
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Last PRE LP version. What files should I use? What order? Is there a guide anywhere?
Nevermind. Pieced it together from different threads enough to downgrade to 12b. Thanks everyone for all the help.
I want to downgrade my G3 back to 10B so I can root it.
It has taken the 47C update and I haven't found any methods to downgrade it.
I did see a post from a year ago that said it is impossible to downgrade 4C, but that was a year ago. Any new info would be helpful.
Thanks
Bullet Saloon said:
I want to downgrade my G3 back to 10B so I can root it.
It has taken the 47C update and I haven't found any methods to downgrade it.
I did see a post from a year ago that said it is impossible to downgrade 4C, but that was a year ago. Any new info would be helpful.
Thanks
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I don't know specifically about 47C, but I downgraded my 49A back to 10B using a DLL (the DLL was released as working for 35B all the way to 47A, back when 47A was the latest).
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Thanks!! Good to know.