Ok, long story short:
I odin'd to official NK4, took OTA to 5.0, redid TWRP via odin, was rooted. I ended up borking 5.0 (doing something dumb without reading). The only way I could get my phone operational again was to flash NK4 rom via TWRP. Now my question is, since there is no 5.0 zip available yet, can I odin back to NK4 then re-take the ota? I know downgrading is usually a no-no, but I do know there are times it is ok.
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jlechner said:
Ok, long story short:
I odin'd to official NK4, took OTA to 5.0, redid TWRP via odin, was rooted. I ended up borking 5.0 (doing something dumb without reading). The only way I could get my phone operational again was to flash NK4 rom via TWRP. Now my question is, since there is no 5.0 zip available yet, can I odin back to NK4 then re-take the ota? I know downgrading is usually a no-no, but I do know there are times it is ok.
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That's exactly what I did and it worked with no problems.
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cmf04 said:
That's exactly what I did and it worked with no problems.
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If you fully upgraded to 5.0 and it didn't take then yes you can unroot, odin back to nk4 stock and retake the OTA. However, if you did take the OTA and it took, you cannot go backwards. Once you update the bootloader you cannot go to a previous build.
travisw0204 said:
If you fully upgraded to 5.0 and it didn't take then yes you can unroot, odin back to nk4 stock and retake the OTA. However, if you did take the OTA and it took, you cannot go backwards. Once you update the bootloader you cannot go to a previous build.
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Incorrect. I just did the downgrade and it went fine.
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Incorrect. I just did the downgrade and it went fine.
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Then you weren't fully 100% on Lollipop via the OTA. Maybe whatever it was you stated happened didn't allow a complete install of the OTA so you were able to downgrade. I did say that if it didn't fully take then you could downgrade because you were still running the NK4 bootloader. Either way I'm glad you got it situated. How is it running so far? I'm thinking about doing the same thing but I've waited this long. Whats another couple days for a dev to deodex it and push it to us.
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Then you weren't fully 100% on Lollipop via the OTA. Maybe whatever it was you stated happened didn't allow a complete install of the OTA so you were able to downgrade. I did say that if it didn't fully take then you could downgrade because you were still running the NK4 bootloader. Either way I'm glad you got it situated. How is it running so far? I'm thinking about doing the same thing but I've waited this long. Whats another couple days for a dev to deodex it and push it to us.
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I can assure you i was full ota. I find it odd myself. I'm doing it for a third time right now to verify.
jlechner said:
I can assure you i was full ota. I find it odd myself. I'm doing it for a third time right now to verify.
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Ok but be careful. This is quite interesting if you can downgrade.
travisw0204 said:
Ok but be careful. This is quite interesting if you can downgrade.
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Lollipop runs pretty smooth btw. No xposed yet though. I've seen some complaints about some aesthetics also. But i liked it for the whole 30 mins i had it lol.
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Lollipop runs pretty smooth btw. No xposed yet though. I've seen some complaints about some aesthetics also. But i liked it for the whole 30 mins i had it lol.
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LoL. I guess I'll dive into it later then for the firmware alone.
travisw0204 said:
LoL. I guess I'll dive into it later then for the firmware alone.
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3rd time worked also... lol
jlechner said:
I can assure you i was full ota. I find it odd myself. I'm doing it for a third time right now to verify.
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I can also confirm this worked for me. I've gone back to NK4 and then OTA'd to OC5 twice without issue.
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travisw0204 said:
If you fully upgraded to 5.0 and it didn't take then yes you can unroot, odin back to nk4 stock and retake the OTA. However, if you did take the OTA and it took, you cannot go backwards. Once you update the bootloader you cannot go to a previous build.
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My understanding is when you Odin the full .tar, you write the bootloader, so yes, it's possible to go back to early versions.
I believe what you are thinking of is restoring backup of a previous version after you've updated the bootloader. That is usually a big no-no (with some exceptions).
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Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? I am still on the stock Rom. And if so, will it unroot me?
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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1234567188 said:
Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
your best bet is to wait a few hours and someone will make a rooted version of the new ota... but chances are we will have the ota update weeks before it is ever pushed to any non rooted phones... at the moment .6 is stock.. and all the roms are .9 so all I"m waiting on is a new radio update to hopefully fix this wacky 3g signal I get
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
HorsexD said:
What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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If it detects you are a lower version then the OTA it will still attempt to upgrade.
Ok. From what I understand, the OTA won't automatically install if I am rooted. Which is good. But if I wanted to I could force the OTA to install?
But from what some people in this thread say, it's not worth it, and I could just get a unrooted version of the OTA from here at some point?
Is that all correct?
I am only interested because I heard there was a big OTA coming on the 16th, and I expect that it will fix a bunch of random stuff on the TB. So I'd like to get it.
I'm pretty sure you need to have stock recovery installed to install the OTA. If using CWM it will not install.
Wow this is interesting...i flashed a new radio yesterday is this the new ota update.
jcase said he thinks the leaked ruu is supposed to be the first OTA.
I unrooted my phone and returned it to stock after experiencing some screen issues. The issues went away after a while of using stock but then came back any way. Not being content with how crappy stock worked i updated to the latest leak RUU. If i still want to have it exchanged, will i need to have it back to a non leaked RUU or can i leave the leaked RUU installed as it is an official rom, signed and all?
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I unrooted my phone and returned it to stock after experiencing some screen issues. The issues went away after a while of using stock but then came back any way. Not being content with how crappy stock worked i updated to the latest leak RUU. If i still want to have it exchanged, will i need to have it back to a non leaked RUU or can i leave the leaked RUU installed as it is an official rom, signed and all?
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It's NOT an official ROM. If it were, it would be distributed by Verizon. So yes, you would need to go back to a real OTA.
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PilotML said:
Well I used the leaked RUU (you know the "official HTC" one). Now my camera app and a few other native apps don't work. I'm S-On and the unroot thread didn't work.
Here is my post from the other thread
Help please![/QUOTE
Do a search for camera fried? There is a link to something u can flash in recovery I don't know of
If it works for unrooted or not but it should
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btf_firefighter70 said:
I can't I'm not rooted.
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O ok I wasn't sure if you could or not if not rooted. Didn't know if u could get into recovery or not
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Had to use my cousin's (windows) computer but it worked.
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
fenguepay said:
I relocked, will this allow me to get the ota?
If not will i have to download and flash the official build in ph98 form?
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what ota? in case you didn't notice it never came.
I mean the future one
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if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
yojoe600 said:
if there is ever a ota ... as long as u are relocked u should be able to get the ota
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Not if he's not on stock though right?
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werdna87 said:
Not if he's not on stock though right?
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right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
I do not understand why you would want to unroot and unlock to get the OTA "when released". In about a day after it is released I am sure a Dev will have a flash-able version posted.
Maybe but since we don't have s-off don't we have to relock to flash the new firmware and radios? Hopefully we have s-off before official update comes.
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right. need to be re-locked and stock non rooted.
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I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
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I didn't think it mattered if you were rooted or not. I thought the things required to get an OTA update from Verizon were:
1. LOCKED or RELOCKED
2. Stock Recovery
3. Close to Stock ROM
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong...
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Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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werdna87 said:
Yea like I think I read you couldn't be debloated or anything
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You will not get the ota on a custom Rom
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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No need to relock. Just unfreeze or restore bloat. Radio and such flashed fine while unlocked
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Wierd, I read a few posts in another topic that said you had to be locked or relocked in order for the new radio to flash...
What about me?
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
You will not get the OTA if you are rooted, that's for sure. If it's the stock ROM, you'll get the option to update, but it'll fail during the installation. I've seen it happen on a few HTC devices and even my rooted Xyboard tablet lol. But, just to be safe if you DO want the OTA, install the stock ROM (If you're on an ICS ROM, you're going to have a tough time getting back to stock. It's bricked a lot of people's phones. You have to restore the firmware yourself, I think.) and relock your bootloader. Don't be worried if it says **Security Warning** this simply means that your bootloader has been unlocked at one point in time.
Just make sure your phone is on a stock, non-rooted ROM with your phone locked to make sure you have no issues. Better safe than sorry.
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refuse2bstopped said:
Well my bootloader screen at the top says ***tampered with*** and then under it says ***re-locked*** and rom is a "clean rom" (ICS based). I purchased (expecting a stock device) and it turned out to be rooted/flashed. What I'm wondering is when Verizon HTC releases the "official" ICS update, will it come to my phone? If so, this would be the quickest fix for me to get stock again. I'm not concerned with "bloatware" etc, I just want things Verizon/HTC stock. I don't download enough apps to be concerned about bloatware and internal space etc. So from what I'm reading here, being "re-locked" and having a flashed rom that's close to being stock should allow me to still get the update, am I correct?
In short, what I mean is, will the update come to my phone like it has done previous android devices (that weren't flashed)? Or will I have to flash another OTA based cooked rom AFTER the official one comes out and someone "cooks" it?
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I returned a rezound with cleanrom in it.... XD. probably not urs but jsut a question.... is the menu button dim compared to the others?
relock/unlock
You do not need s-off to relock. I unlocked and installed scotts cleanrom. I then a month later relocked installed the leaked OTA ICS update so i could have the new radios. Then unlocked again and installed the cleanrom DE senseless yesterday and i am loving it btw! I get decent battery too (13+ hours with moderate use)!
can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
It is always recommended to not accept any ota updates once rooted as you may lose root and the ability to root in the future. The dev's will post a stock rooted updated rom within a day or two. I would wait and flash that.
I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
ekz13 said:
I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
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Thanks I appreciate the quick response.
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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I wouldn't trust it.
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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Take the advises from above and wait. I'm also waiting a little longer before flashing a ROM. If you want the fixes from this update just download MEAN ROM and install it, it already has most of this fixes incorporate. The most important feature for me is tethering and I already got it.
chico1983 said:
can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
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It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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Anyone know if it removes s-off?
I'm half rooted not unlock can I take it i don't mind if I loose it
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
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Dang njfoses. xHausx's comment was going to give me confidence enough to update and then you go and throw some doubt back in my mind. Oh well.
Appears a new OTA update is going out today, locks down a previous root exploit and few other things.
(Make sure you S-OFF your device first before taking this unless you risk being locked down for good!)
Details in link below:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ate-resolves-device-root-vulnerability-stuff/
If anyone on a rooted device can capture this OTA file from /cache directory after you download it would be much appreciated.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Appears a new OTA update is going out today, locks down a previous root exploit and few other things.
(Make sure you S-OFF your device first before taking this unless you risk being locked down for good!)
Details in link below:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ate-resolves-device-root-vulnerability-stuff/
If anyone on a rooted device can capture this OTA file from /cache directory after you download it would be much appreciated.
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I'm running Santod's stock ROM, I think it blocks the OTA from even downloading, right? Any way I can get it? I'd love a new stock ROM to try out.
badogg said:
I'm running Santod's stock ROM, I think it blocks the OTA from even downloading, right? Any way I can get it? I'd love a new stock ROM to try out.
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My stock full odex rom will accept OTA's.
You just need the stock recovery installed for it to work.
But it's not rolling out yet where I am at least.
Once it does, I will post the firmware and a full rooted stock rom.
Anyone who is not already s-off and plans to gain s-off, should avoid the update until after they have gained s-off and unlocked.
I'm checking regularly, so will have it up just as soon as I get it and package it up.
I will post the OTApkg.zip as well...
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My stock full odex rom will accept OTA's.
You just need the stock recovery installed for it to work.
But it's not rolling out yet where I am at least.
Once it does, I will post the firmware and a full rooted stock rom.
Anyone who is not already s-off and plans to gain s-off, should avoid the update until after they have gained s-off and unlocked.
I'm checking regularly, so will have it up just as soon as I get it and package it up.
I will post the OTApkg.zip as well...
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Thanks man. You're awesome and a total treasure to the DNA community. :highfive:
With TWRP will the OTA download still, or will it not even do that?
badogg said:
Thanks man. You're awesome and a total treasure to the DNA community. :highfive:
With TWRP will the OTA download still, or will it not even do that?
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Thanks
Yeah it will still download with twrp installed, it would just fail to install is all.
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Thanks
Yeah it will still download with twrp installed, it would just fail to install is all.
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Sweet! If you need my help, I'll keep an eye out and if I get it before you do I'll PM you to see what you need me to do .
badogg said:
Sweet! If you need my help, I'll keep an eye out and if I get it before you do I'll PM you to see what you need me to do .
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Sounds good, thanks! :good:
So it stops you from getting root?
HTC DNA
LG Optimus G
Oh good, I was just looking yesterday, trying to figure out which was the newest version of stock because CM11 apparently doesn't support HDMI out.
Although, if anyone has a favorite sense-based ROM and can confirm HDMI out works on it, I might be persuaded to try that instead.
Anybody get the update through HTC Sync Manager yet? I don't have Verizon so I can't get the OTA.
MicroMod777 said:
Anybody get the update through HTC Sync Manager yet? I don't have Verizon so I can't get the OTA.
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Sync Manager doesn't show any updates for the DNA at all actually.
Haven't seen any sign of the OTA yet either.
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Sync Manager doesn't show any updates for the DNA at all actually.
Haven't seen any sign of the OTA yet either.
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Same here, nada, ziltch
Anybody get it?
My cousins phone got bricked from the update.
So nobody got this OTA yet?
Anybody know if you can even get OTA without an active Verizon sim card?
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So nobody got this OTA yet?
Anybody know if you can even get OTA without an active Verizon sim card?
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Haven't seen any sign of it yet.
They never push them on weekends either.
No, you can't get the OTA without Vzw service.
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Haven't seen any sign of it yet.
They never push them on weekends either.
No, you can't get the OTA without Vzw service.
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That's what I thought. Back in the day they allowed it on the HTC Droid Incredible through wifi.
Downloading the update now... :good:
OTApkg.zip
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Firmware zip, hboot mods, and updated stock rooted rom are all uploading...
See my post here, for more info: LINK
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Downloading the update now... :good:
OTApkg.zip
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Firmware zip, hboot mods, and updated stock rooted rom are all uploading...
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I feel like a noob. How I flash the OTApkg? Forgot.