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i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys, these are the 1st gen nook tablets not the hd
Rooting just opens up the device. You'll still have full access to the stock interface and BN app store and what have you.
You can make a really child friendly user imterface with a rooted device running an alternate launcher. That way you can make different home screen with the apps you want them to use easily accessable.
Give it a go! It's really easy to go back should you want to.
asawi said:
Rooting just opens up the device. You'll still have full access to the stock interface and BN app store and what have you.
You can make a really child friendly user imterface with a rooted device running an alternate launcher. That way you can make different home screen with the apps you want them to use easily accessable.
Give it a go! It's really easy to go back should you want to.
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thanks i dread having to do the whole sd card ota block thing again and havent done it in about a year. is there a good video out there to walk me through step by step again for the ota block? and can someone recommend the best barest bones rom to root afterwards to make it as easy for a child to use as possible?
and i think i had trouble the last time because only a certain size sd card could be used. wasn't it just the 2 or 4 gb that worked? thanks and sorry for all the questions. just have to get this done tonight so i can fedex it to texas to get there in time for xmas.
A rooted nook is just marginally better than a stock nook in terms of access to more apps, but might be more confusing to kids since it has two coexisting interfaces. You would be better off sticking with stock or go all out android with full-fledged CM10.
I think the rooted stock NT is loads better than than the true stock. LOADS! Had the stock reader dealt better with my side loaded books I wouldn't have installed CM10 internally.
I agree that the double interface can be a bit confusing but to kids that age it shouldn't be much of a problem.
The OTA block is just a process of a few clicks from within the NT hidden settings app.
asawi said:
I think the rooted stock NT is loads better than than the true stock. LOADS! Had the stock reader dealt better with my side loaded books I wouldn't have installed CM10 internally.
I agree that the double interface can be a bit confusing but to kids that age it shouldn't be much of a problem.
The OTA block is just a process of a few clicks from within the NT hidden settings app.
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im trying to use the same albert video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zbT1Fj38nE, but the file doesnt even seem to be there anymore, and his updated video shows how to create a root v4 card. im totally confused. do you still need to block otas? and if so is there another link that shows that step by step. im ready to just send these back and forget the whole thing
No need for any video!
There are a couple of ready-made root images that are almost automatic. Burn the card, pop it in, install zip from card and you're rooted. Go to Google Play (it may show up as "market" at first and make sure you have updated version of NT Hidden settings to block OTA. It could not be much easier! If can watch a film on your DVD player you can do this without instruction video!
Brian's root (that I havetried once and really liked!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Alberts (that I have also used several times and like as well): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
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And to expand a little:
1. Root the Tablet following the instructions in the root method you choose
2. Go to Google Market/Play and search for NT Hidden Settings
3. Open NT Hidden settings. Tap on "Hacks". When the prompt comes up "Allow" root access. You now get to a new menu where you can chhos Block OTA, Done!
Basic rooting instructions:
1. Download image file
2. Download imaging software if you don't already have it. (I like WinImage. I keep it in a folder and put my various image files in the same folder to make them easy to find)
3. Use your imaging software to burn a sd card. Albert's image will fit on a small card. I use a 1 GB, but I think smaller ones will do as well. Brian's image needs a larger card. I'm not sure how large, but the instructions probably tells you!
4. Boot to your sd card and follow the instructions for the method you have choosen. There are step by step instructions in both of the methods I have linked to, and probably others as well!
5. Done!
asawi said:
No need for any video!
There are a couple of ready-made root images that are almost automatic. Burn the card, pop it in, install zip from card and you're rooted. Go to Google Play (it may show up as "market" at first and make sure you have updated version of NT Hidden settings to block OTA. It could not be much easier! If can watch a film on your DVD player you can do this without instruction video!
Brian's root (that I havetried once and really liked!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Alberts (that I have also used several times and like as well): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
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And to expand a little:
1. Root the Tablet following the instructions in the root method you choose
2. Go to Google Market/Play and search for NT Hidden Settings
3. Open NT Hidden settings. Tap on "Hacks". When the prompt comes up "Allow" root access. You now get to a new menu where you can chhos Block OTA, Done!
Basic rooting instructions:
1. Download image file
2. Download imaging software if you don't already have it. (I like WinImage. I keep it in a folder and put my various image files in the same folder to make them easy to find)
3. Use your imaging software to burn a sd card. Albert's image will fit on a small card. I use a 1 GB, but I think smaller ones will do as well. Brian's image needs a larger card. I'm not sure how large, but the instructions probably tells you!
4. Boot to your sd card and follow the instructions for the method you have choosen. There are step by step instructions in both of the methods I have linked to, and probably others as well!
5. Done!
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thank you so much for this help, figured it would be a slam dunk from here but when i try and unzip brians ntsdcard image file it says its corrupted and when i try and run alberts 32 diskimager it says it cant computer it. ive reinstalled and rebooted 3 times. can someone else try and open these file to se if its just my computer? dont know why it would be. or is there another work around? i heard he just sells the bootdisks. maybe thats the way to go. thanks again for all your help
I downloaded Albert's package. My virus protection alerter me, but that's probably because of the scripts that do need to be in that package, so I ignored that (I trust Albert!).
I then unzipped that into anew folder.
Inside that folder I find Wini32DiskImager, and I just open it from within that folder. (I realize I was mistaken in my previous post, This is the disk imager I prefer to use even though I've used others as well)
The program just opens in a small window. In the "choose file box" you automatically get directed to the folder you opened up from. That's why I keep my images there. Pick the one you want (you'll jut have one unless you've added)
Click "Write" when you've made sure the sd-cards drive letter is the one in the top right box.
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thank you so much for this help, figured it would be a slam dunk from here but when i try and unzip brians ntsdcard image file it says its corrupted and when i try and run alberts 32 diskimager it says it cant computer it. ive reinstalled and rebooted 3 times. can someone else try and open these file to se if its just my computer? dont know why it would be. or is there another work around? i heard he just sells the bootdisks. maybe thats the way to go. thanks again for all your help
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this is the error i get the program cant start because libgcc_s dw2_dll is missing from your computer
I have now downbloaded and unszipped Brians file as well. Totally problem free!
What are you using to unzip? I use 7-zip.
By the way, I can now see that it looks like Brian's image needs a 2 GB card.
And for clairfication, you don't actually have to install Win32DiskImager. Just open it from within the folder!
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gorelow said:
this is the error i get the program cant start because libgcc_s dw2_dll is missing from your computer
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Check the folder. That dll should be in the folder. It is in mine (the one I created just now). Are you really opening the program from within the folder?
The simplest and best rooting instruction I've found is one provided by liquidzoo's here.
I'd also suggest that before rooting the NT, you make a backup of your NT current software using the backup option of the same Recovery program that you will use to install the rooting mods.
If you have problem writing disk image with Win32DiskImager, you can use DiskImage_1_6_WinAll.exe instead.
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asawi said:
I think the rooted stock NT is loads better than than the true stock. LOADS!
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We'll learn soon enough the moment the kids want some recently released game apps and find out they can't have them because they are not compatible with 2+ year-old Android Gingerbread which is what the stock ROM is based on.
gorelow said:
thanks i dread having to do the whole sd card ota block thing again and havent done it in about a year. is there a good video out there to walk me through step by step again for the ota block? and can someone recommend the best barest bones rom to root afterwards to make it as easy for a child to use as possible?
and i think i had trouble the last time because only a certain size sd card could be used. wasn't it just the 2 or 4 gb that worked? thanks and sorry for all the questions. just have to get this done tonight so i can fedex it to texas to get there in time for xmas.
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You are getting your terminology confused as well. Asking what is the best barest bones ROM to root is incorrect.
To root means you give the nook superuser access which in turn allows you to load play store, apps, new launcher, and any SU related functions.
A ROM is a fully functioning version of android. IE: CM 7(GB), CM 9(ICS), CM 10(JB). It automatically has root access built in.
As for loading a ROM due to worrying about the kids and the interface, stock nook sucks...period. My 8 y/o has had zero issues with either cm 7 or cm10. Do yourself and them a favor and put at least CM 7 but preferably CM 10 on it.
Image files for dummies can be found at iamafanof.wordpress.com
Sent from my CM 10 SD nook tablet. Thanks devs.
gorelow said:
i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys, these are the 1st gen nook tablets not the hd
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My sons are 8 and 12. Trust me, your kids won't have a bit of trouble with the CM10 interface. One of the nice extras in CM10 is that you can configure profiles to block them from getting into apps you don't want them to -- like settings, email, etc... Also, you can PIN-protect the Play Store so that they don't accidentally purchase anything.
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Since the OP will be using two NTs I'd suggest building the CM10 SD card from scratch (using the info and tools posted at http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/how-to-guide-bootable-cm7cm9cm10-sdcard-for-nook-tablet/ and which I have provided a summary digest here), since there have been reports of NTs running the precooked CM10 SD image having identical MAC addresses and hence not able to concurrently access a same WiFi network (in this case the OP's household WiFi network).
I'm not saying rooted stock is as good as for example CM10. Not at all! CM 10 is awsome, and user interface is really nice!
But for a user that is intimidated by even the simple rooting process putting CM10 internally should not be even considered at this point. Thankfully the sd version of CM runs just as smooth as the internal install (at least it does from my 8GB Sandisk class 4) so that could certainly be an option as soon as the OP has figured out how to use the disk image writer! Yesterday even that was troublesome.
What I'm saying (if not straight out in my previous posts) is that rooted stock certainly is not bad! It depends on the kids and what they are used to if it will be "enough". For the kids near me (ages 4, 8,5 and 14) it certainly would! The bigger ones are girls that read a lot and apart from reading, watching Youtube videos and surfing (reading fashion blogs...) they are happy with a few cute games. Maybe if they had been boys and/or had tech savvy parents they would have asked for more, but they don't.
Either way, let's try to help the OP as well as we can!
asawi said:
I have now downbloaded and unszipped Brians file as well. Totally problem free!
What are you using to unzip? I use 7-zip.
By the way, I can now see that it looks like Brian's image needs a 2 GB card.
And for clairfication, you don't actually have to install Win32DiskImager. Just open it from within the folder!
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Check the folder. That dll should be in the folder. It is in mine (the one I created just now). Are you really opening the program from within the folder?
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i think it was the winzip that was screwing me up. i used 7zip and it opened right up and i burned it onto the sd card. then after i powered off i held the n button and the N button and i was only brought to a screen that said so you want to factory reset. isnt that the way to boot up? it didnt seem to recognize the unziped ntboot file. thanks
Try to just boot up (from completely turned off) without holding any buttons. If you do need to keep the "n" pressed down at first, that's just for a few seconds and then let go. Some people need to keep the Tablet turned off and insert apowered USB cable (menaing it's coneected to the charger, not computer) to get it to boot from sd-card. No buttons pressed! I have never needed that myself, but I hear many others do.
A friend of mine picked up a Proscan PLT7044k. Great cheap tablet from BigLots they wanted to gift me as a late birthday present. Sure it's cheap, but cheap can be good right? Especially if it's a backup device or something to tinker with.
Trouble is we're running into some issues. Fine. Great it's a cheap Chinese tablet. We both get that we're not expecting nexus or ipad mini or even kindle fire quality. However GetJar is, apparently, not working correctly, Amazon Marketplace (which it was linked to in the device) will not let you change settings, and My friend isn't wanting to try rooting to get google play working just yet because we're not sure if the Thread found on the matter has all the bugs worked out.
This Thread seems to be closest to what 'we' want but the model number is different (it's supposed t obe the same device save for the one we're working with included a hardware keyboard/case, but one never knows.)
Of Note when queried my friend only saw a one gig internal storage device instead of the four gig advertised and described the external media slot as a SD slot instead of a micro-sd.
So, since I am, for the moment, treating this device as different and not wanting to risk bricking before info can be gained on if it's worht keeping or taken back, trying to figure out the following:
Very minimum how does one get google play on this gizmo.
Is there anything that can be done about the touch screen lag?
Is there a CyanogenMod port that will work or other custom rom that might help with the issues of lag?
Any advice would be welcome/useful. Even 'RTFM' with links to other threads.
Edit: Be Aware my 'primary' computer is running linux (peppermint OS3, ubuntu 12.04 based distro.)
I just got this tablet. You have root accesses out of the box. There are 2 ways I have installed play store. Through root explorer and through adb push. google gapps for jellybean. here is the manual and firmware proscanvideo.com/item.asp?itemnmbr=PLT7044K . I can make a tute anyone needs.
I ended up taking mine back and getting a Nook Touch. Sure I'll still need to root the thing to get much use out of it beyond being an e-reader but even with it not-rooted it's still actually a pretty good experiance.
Sorry Icouldn't be a trailblazer to anyone getting a proscan and wanting to improve on it.
a noob, but I honestly have tried...
Tearran said:
I just got this tablet. You have root accesses out of the box. There are 2 ways I have installed play store. Through root explorer and through adb push. google gapps for jellybean. here is the manual and firmware proscanvideo.com/item.asp?itemnmbr=PLT7044K . I can make a tute anyone needs.
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ok, I have tried very VERY hard to find out how to root my proscan plt7044k. I've tried following the few links that I have found, and have found them to be broken. Or the items just won't download onto my computer or just flat don't work. It appears that what I have to do is to find a driver for this thing so that my computer can recognize it, and the Curtis website doesn't give any driver information. Yes, I did download their manuals and tech material, and they DON'T WORK. All they provide is a powerpoint thing that says to "find program x, do y, etc", without providing that program. I cannot find a driver for this p.o.s. ANYWHERE, nor any that would work for an earlier model and then also "might" work for mine.
I really want to get rid of the "getjar" crap, as well as all of the bloatware that google puts into these things!
Tearran said:
I just got this tablet. You have root accesses out of the box. There are 2 ways I have installed play store. Through root explorer and through adb push. google gapps for jellybean. here is the manual and firmware proscanvideo.com/item.asp?itemnmbr=PLT7044K . I can make a tute anyone needs.
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I have checked device for root it is not rooted out of the box. If you have a tutorial to actually get root it would be appreciated.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
musicafe said:
I have checked device for root it is not rooted out of the box. If you have a tutorial to actually get root it would be appreciated.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
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The tablet is semi rooted out of the box it only needs supersu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053). You need to adb push this file.
[HOW-TO] Install & Use ADB tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474956)
How to push files through ADB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642437)
Basic adb/shell commands for noobs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3820215)
Tearran said:
The tablet is semi rooted out of the box it only needs supersu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053). You need to adb push this file.
[HOW-TO] Install & Use ADB tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474956)
How to push files through ADB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642437)
Basic adb/shell commands for noobs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3820215)
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I've looked everywhere including the links you provided, and adb don't find this device, oh well, bout to give up on this
side load
Goggles2114 said:
A friend of mine picked up a Proscan PLT7044k. Great cheap tablet from BigLots they wanted to gift me as a late birthday present. Sure it's cheap, but cheap can be good right? Especially if it's a backup device or something to tinker with.
Trouble is we're running into some issues. Fine. Great it's a cheap Chinese tablet. We both get that we're not expecting nexus or ipad mini or even kindle fire quality. However GetJar is, apparently, not working correctly, Amazon Marketplace (which it was linked to in the device) will not let you change settings, and My friend isn't wanting to try rooting to get google play working just yet because we're not sure if the Thread found on the matter has all the bugs worked out.
This Thread seems to be closest to what 'we' want but the model number is different (it's supposed t obe the same device save for the one we're working with included a hardware keyboard/case, but one never knows.)
Of Note when queried my friend only saw a one gig internal storage device instead of the four gig advertised and described the external media slot as a SD slot instead of a micro-sd.
So, since I am, for the moment, treating this device as different and not wanting to risk bricking before info can be gained on if it's worht keeping or taken back, trying to figure out the following:
Very minimum how does one get google play on this gizmo.
Is there anything that can be done about the touch screen lag?
Is there a CyanogenMod port that will work or other custom rom that might help with the issues of lag?
Any advice would be welcome/useful. Even 'RTFM' with links to other threads.
Edit: Be Aware my 'primary' computer is running linux (peppermint OS3, ubuntu 12.04 based distro.)
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You can side load the Play Store, also, what version of Android is the tablet running?
IRIE4IPIER said:
I've looked everywhere including the links you provided, and adb don't find this device, oh well, bout to give up on this
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You probably have a driver problem. I use ADB Konnect (wireless ADB) To push over wifi.
Is there any possible way to flash a custom ROM to it the factory ROM has too much crap on it memory wise?
JayMax03 said:
Is there any possible way to flash a custom ROM to it the factory ROM has too much crap on it memory wise?
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I Titanium backup to uninstall the bloat. You also can use Root explorer or adb to rename the apk extension of the bloat to get rid of the eyesore
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proscan 7" tablet.
you kngoo root, make sure your using windows...anything past vista.
i used wkindows 7 or 8 from an internet cafe and my proscan is plt7602g and it worked fine...i even reset from the android service menu (green dead dude) and it worked but make sure most of all that you have the verify apps off so you can root it. because it will still be a danger to ur tablet. there is always a bricking chance, one you instakll kingoo root and run the program plug in ur tablet press root and the app takes care of it all. and if you google kingoo app or kingoo root it will show a main website and go from there
i got my proscan PLT1077G and i haven't found a **** yet i want to change my tablet android OS but don't have a developer who can help us with this one i think proscan is not that popular
Tearran said:
The tablet is semi rooted out of the box it only needs supersu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053). You need to adb push this file.
[HOW-TO] Install & Use ADB tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474956)
How to push files through ADB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642437)
Basic adb/shell commands for noobs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3820215)
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Going to try this on the PLT7650G
Need firmware file for plt7223g
prepaidguy9081 said:
Going to try this on the PLT7650G
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so much for this method - I used kingo root for windows, slow but works. just go grab a beer and come back in ten.
Does anyone have any information on rooting the AZPEN A701 Tablet (ICS OS)?
All my searches keep popping up for the Acer Iconia A701.
drivers
I found the correct address for the drivers for this tablet, and 2 others from Azpen.
www.mediafire.com/azpensupport
The links on their webpage incorrectly spell mediafire and also include .com in the last part of the link.
Note: I recently got an email from Azpen telling me the exact same url that I had already figured out. Their email is about week to a week and a half after I sent them a request for the proper address. Also, as of the time I am posting this update, they have not corrected the address on their website.
Tried methods
I have tried SuperOneClick which reports that the system is rooted, but ADB Wireless says it is not.
I have tried Bin4ry's Root Many Android! (options 1, 3, and G) and briefly got temp root on option 3 but I lose wireless functionality (I get one or the other message from ADB Wireless (no root or no wireless), verified that Wireless connection has been turned off and won't turn back on until reboot which loses me the root again).
Retries
Ok, finally rooted the Azpen A701.
What I did:
First, I went back to SuperOneClick, and choose Unroot to reverse anything it did.
Retried Bin4ry's Root Many Android! v31, option 1 (new standard method), test, failed, unroot, 3 (old method), test, failed, unroot, then G (Google Glass method), test, WORKED this time.
Verified by using a root browser (can see files/folders(subdirectories) in /data after giving permission), a root checker (note: do not turn on SuperUser's Autoanswer, gives false information from some checkers), and ADB Wireless works while in range of a wireless router/source.
I am guessing that somehow the leftovers from SuperOneClick were affecting my results with Bin4ry's collected scripts.
Props to all that developed each of those programs and scripts.
I don't know if anyone will be seeing this but I hope it helps anyone needing the info.
Just curious to know if there is a rom available in case this method bricks the tablet? I bought this tablet a couple of weeks ago because I wanted to mess with one and I didn't have a lot of cash to spend. I use it daily and my kids play games on it. I can't afford to get another anytime soon, however I'd like to have it rooted so that I can remove factory installed apps that I don't want or need.
no idea
BizarreMan said:
Just curious to know if there is a rom available in case this method bricks the tablet? I bought this tablet a couple of weeks ago because I wanted to mess with one and I didn't have a lot of cash to spend. I use it daily and my kids play games on it. I can't afford to get another anytime soon, however I'd like to have it rooted so that I can remove factory installed apps that I don't want or need.
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I have absolutely no idea. The only additional rom I have seen ANYWHERE is the Jellybean update for it (see driver link above). This seems to not be a very popular tablet to work with, going by the fact I received no help from anyone here. All research on this so far has been done by me. I stumbled on to Bin4ry's rooting method by accident. I'm not a ROMer, I don't know how to build one. Also I don't know which ROM backup method to use on it/will work with it.
Alright
I'll give it a shot during the weekend, I've grabbed the jelly bean update (thanks for the link). Hopefully all goes well. I figured there would be little to no support for this device, however due to a tight budget I chose to get this tablet.
I don't really mind the lack of support, however I'd like to have root because like on my old phone I had a few programs I used that required root.
Thanks again.
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I attempted last night as I had free time to do the root method and unfortunately it did not work on my device. Not sure why it did not work. I'll try it again at a later time when I can. I also attempted to upgrade to 4.2 but it seems as though I am having issues with it as well.
Maybe I'm just stuck with the tablet as is
trying again...
BizarreMan said:
I'll give it a shot during the weekend, I've grabbed the jelly bean update (thanks for the link). Hopefully all goes well. I figured there would be little to no support for this device, however due to a tight budget I chose to get this tablet.
I don't really mind the lack of support, however I'd like to have root because like on my old phone I had a few programs I used that required root.
Thanks again.
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I attempted last night as I had free time to do the root method and unfortunately it did not work on my device. Not sure why it did not work. I'll try it again at a later time when I can. I also attempted to upgrade to 4.2 but it seems as though I am having issues with it as well.
Maybe I'm just stuck with the tablet as is
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It may have been the sequence I used. Tried SuperOneClick several times (as above it said tablet was rooted but several apps said it wasn't) which installed su, busybox, and superuser. Then found Bin4ry's method, got temp root (tryied 1, 3, and Glass). Then went back to SuperOneClick and unrooted, returned to Bin4ry's and finally got it with Glass method.
Don't know if that helps
Well
After several attempts via Bin4ry and SuperOneClick I have obtained root on this tablet.
Not quite sure which actually did it though as with super one click it froze on me during both times I used it and each time I tried Bin4ry's method I kept getting messages about connecting my device (which was connected fro the get go).
After several tries with these programs yesterday and finally saying screw it I decided to add some apps that required root. I don't know why I did it I just figured it was worth a shot. I added Super User which told me I was rooted, then I added Titanium Backup and was able to use it as it is intended. For added measure I also installed and ran root checker which as well as super user verified that the tablet had been rooted.
Good to see that your were able to root.
BizarreMan said:
After several attempts via Bin4ry and SuperOneClick I have obtained root on this tablet.
Not quite sure which actually did it though as with super one click it froze on me during both times I used it and each time I tried Bin4ry's method I kept getting messages about connecting my device (which was connected fro the get go).
After several tries with these programs yesterday and finally saying screw it I decided to add some apps that required root. I don't know why I did it I just figured it was worth a shot. I added Super User which told me I was rooted, then I added Titanium Backup and was able to use it as it is intended. For added measure I also installed and ran root checker which as well as super user verified that the tablet had been rooted.
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So I think we can safely say that using both methods together + patience will root this tablet (don't know why one or the other wouldn't do it).
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Does anyone have any information on rooting the AZPEN A701 Tablet (ICS OS)?
All my searches keep popping up for the Acer Iconia A701.
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I have been trying to root AZPEN A701 for the past week, I have tried everything written on this forum. Any help PLEASE!
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Are you willing to do a full restart on the tablet (factory reset)? I had to do that before my root took, as I found on other systems that I have rooted some programs you load can interfer with rooting. Save any personal data before you do this, programs can be reinstalled from Google Play or (hopefully you saved them if you downloaded them) your computer
Factory reset:
Press and hold up volume button then press and hold power button. The screen will remain black (no backlight)
Wait 4 seconds then release both buttons (backlight will come on). Shortly the android on it's back with the open torso (the sick android) will be displayed.
Press the down volume button. You should see 5 options available- You are now in the System Recovery program.
Using the up or down volume button to highlight an option then press power to select the option.
1) select Wipe Cache Partition
let the unit reboot, then turn it completely off
reenter System Recovery again.
2) select Wipe data/factory reset
let the unit reboot, then turn it completely off
The system is as clean as it is going to get now.
On your pc (don't know for MAC's) download the drivers, Android programs needed (Android Debug Bridge -ADB- is part of the Android Development kit and some Java Development Kits), and both SuperOneClick and Bin4ry's root software. Install all software and drivers as per their instructions. Run SuperOneClick and Bin4ry's root programs. Busybox and SuperUser will be added automatically by these root programs.
While having wifi and internet access (McDonalds anyone?), re-sign up for Google Play (sorry, but the settings got wiped earler). Go to Google Play and let all the programs update. Update Busybox and SuperUser if needed/possible.
Download any root enabled file system browser (FSB) (permission will have to be granted in program to use root functions) - I used Ghost Commander for mine. It may take a bit to find it in the directory structure for the FSB you downloaded but you need to get to the root system folder.
Ghost Commander has a Local Storage option press it and an new list of folders/files will be displayed, move to the previous folder level (double dots at the top) and give permission to move to a system folder, move to the previous folder again to get to root directory, "/mnt" is the directory you just came out of and is highlighted but you will be at the root of the file system.
Enter the "/data" directory. If you can see files listed there, you have root; if not rooting attempt failed.
Once rooted, doing a system cleaning and Factory reset will not remove root but will remove SuperUser and Busybox (re-run one of the root programs to re-install then update the next time you are on the internet/web). Updating/upgrading the rom will remove root if the rom does not have root activated - I don't know of any custom roms for this tablet (there is a Jellybean upgrade in the Azpen website, if they haven't updated to the correct web address then use the one I listed on the front page, mediafire is spelled wrong in the address). Nandroid level system backup is not available yet for this tablet to my knowledge.
For several reasons, do not turn on SuperUser's automatically give permission option (the one that affects all programs), except on a one for one basis: 1) some root testing programs will fail if this option is turned on, 2) security: turning this on will allow ALL programs - including some malicious ones - to have super-user rights, 3) you will get to know which programs are asking for root permissions beforehand not after, you may want some to have automatic access (like DroidWall in my case, a firewall) and not others.
Also other information that can be useful:
/sdcard does not refer to the removeable SDCard but to the internal user data area. All programs that can be moved to a SDCard (like by Apps2SD) will be moved to this directory by default (some may allow re-assignment of the destination location) instead of the removeable SDCard (blame Azpen, it was their decision to use the directory and name that way). On most other systems /sdcard is the removeable SDCard.
/extsd is the removeable SDCard, when installed, maximum size is 32Gb.
/usbhost1 is for any usb flashdrive connected by a USB-OTG cable (OTG means On-The-Go, special usb cable that puts the tablet into host mode, similar to connecting a flashdrive to a computer, the cable is not a standard Data Connect/transfer cable, one USB-OTG comes with this tablet). Note about USB-OTG cables: if one is connected you can connect either a flashdrive, usb keyboard, usb mouse, combo keyboard/mouse unit, or a powered usb 2.0 hub. Only one flashdrive can be connected at a time (anyone know of downloadable software that would allow 2 or more? I know some modified kernels can allow more than one) so with a hub you can connect a flashdrive + keyboard + mouse (I use the RII wireless combo keyboard and mouse with mine). Maximum size appears to be 8GB, format must be FAT32; will be testing with a 16GB key shortly.
Azpen A701 and Jelly Bean
Shortly after I wrote the above I had to re-flash my tablet, but Azpen had deleted the ICS image (after a request it was restored to the site, get it while you can) and had to flash Jelly Bean. I found there were troubles with this image.
First: I could not write to either the external SDCard (called extsd) nor an attached USB flash key; reading was unaffected. I found this out when I attempted to reassign my backup location to the external sdcard and it was unable to create the directories.
Second: I couldn't find a rooting program.
After a little research, I found that the external media had not been given R/W permission in the platform.xml file - I could actually navigate the FS and read the file even without root.
Also I finally found after 2 days of searching a root program, VROOT, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434453, that would work. Be prepared to deal with Chinese for a little bit and follow the instructions on that page (press the buttons to see screenshots). The superuser app needed to fix/replace the Chinese app is SuperSU (Google Play) which supposedly fixes problems found with other superuser apps. Once you have downloaded SuperSU, had it download/update its binaries and have rebooted, you will have to disable the Chinese Superuser app as you are unable to uninstall it using the app manager: I located it by its icon (shield with cog) in /system/app and appened '.old' to the name: "Superuser.apk" => "Superuser.apk.old'. I didn't use Titanium Backup as suggested because I am not a fan of the program .
platform.xml is located in /system/ext/permissions. After you have root, open platform.xml in what ever text processor you want locally or transfer it to your computer and work with it. You will have to add '<group gid="media_rw">' to the 'WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE' group, on the line after '<group gid="sdcard_rw">' (don't type the single quotes but the double quotes are needed) and write the file back to its location (need root for that, adb pull/push may be possible to fix this). Remember on this tablet, sdcard refers to the internal user storage, media_rw will give permissions to the extsd (external sdcard) and USBHost1 (using included USB-OTG cable and a flash drive). I rebooted the tablet and tested the RW state of extsd, and voila, it now is write capable.
I wish there was more aid on this tablet but since it is not mainstream (not made by a big manufacturer like LG, Motorola, Samsung, etc.) I doubt that it is coming (I am not a ROMmer but have been using computers since the 80's, so I know a few tricks and am always learning). I will keep adding info as I find or fix it.
I will probably go back to ICS as some of my programs are not working right, and JB is sluggish.
I just picked up the A700 from Microcenter, and this is the ONLY reference to rooting the device I could find. The Azpen website doesn't even acknowledge the device's existence. I just came across this yesterday: Azpen A700 - Cyanogenmod forums. I used the Kingo method without a hitch.
Hopefully, all the other folks who get that tablet for the pre-Black Friday sale who found this link will benefit.
johncro13 said:
I just picked up the A700 from Microcenter, and this is the ONLY reference to rooting the device I could find. The Azpen website doesn't even acknowledge the device's existence. I just came across this yesterday: Azpen A700 - Cyanogenmod forums. I used the Kingo method without a hitch.
Hopefully, all the other folks who get that tablet for the pre-Black Friday sale who found this link will benefit.
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I picked up this tablet also. Not bad for $40. I used this method to root http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/ It worked the first time. I just had to do it on an old XP machine. Windows 8 would not load the right android drivers. Now I'm working on getting Titanium backup to see my external SD card.
comstar said:
I picked up this tablet also. Not bad for $40. I used this method to root http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/ It worked the first time. I just had to do it on an old XP machine. Windows 8 would not load the right android drivers. Now I'm working on getting Titanium backup to see my external SD card.
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I was going to return it as no rooting procedure would work....(I only bought it so I could have a android tab to fool with...i'm windows tablet all the way)...and once I tried out that rooter it worked...thanks alot for the info!
cheeb said:
I was going to return it as no rooting procedure would work....(I only bought it so I could have a android tab to fool with...i'm windows tablet all the way)...and once I tried out that rooter it worked...thanks alot for the info!
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Glad it worked for you! I started this thread for the A700 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532464 - No activity in it yet. But if you come across anything good post it over there.
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I am glad to see that others are taking an interest in this tablet.
I found 2 methods that worked and am glad that others are finding more.
Now if I can get the boot loader cracked I could finally make a nandroid copy and save myself 4+ hours restoring everything when it goes wonky. This has happened twice- OS partition fills up (and don't know why) and the device resets to near factory reset level (even some of the factory apps are missing) and won't install anything but the smallest of apps which are deleted on the next reboot; the only solution is to re-flash the tablet. Note that I have gone back to using ICS as JB has other problems (external media including its own sdcard partition is not rw enabled for one).
Hello,
Earlier today I got an OTA upgrade of my Samsung Galaxy S4 to Jellybean 4.3.
Everything is working great except for some reason my external SD card (A 64 GB SanDisk MicroSD) is read only. The only thing I can do with it is to format it. Otherwise all write operations to it fail.
I have tried two different cards and several different apps (Terminal, Astro File Manager for instance) and none of them can write to the device.
Is anybody else experiencing this issue or does anybody have any tip for how to solve it?
I am almost thinking it is a matter of a missing new permission but I can't find anything in the SDK docs about it (If this is the case that is fine because my main use of the card is a home made music player that I've written).
I have the same issue after updating to 4.3 yesterday - external SD card is mounted as Read Only after the update.
I have not seen it mentioned before, but It is quite possible that it is just part of the new "Google Experience" - Google has for a long time advocated having a single SD card and several of the tablet devices already had their external SD card mounted as read only in the past.
You can still write to it using MTP from a PC, but it is mounted as ReadOnly for the accounts that Android apps run on the device.
Of course it is possible that it is just a strange side effect (bug) in the upgrade process that is affecting only some devices.
pirin said:
I have the same issue after updating to 4.3 yesterday - external SD card is mounted as Read Only after the update.
I have not seen it mentioned before, but It is quite possible that it is just part of the new "Google Experience" - Google has for a long time advocated having a single SD card and several of the tablet devices already had their external SD card mounted as read only in the past.
You can still write to it using MTP from a PC, but it is mounted as ReadOnly for the accounts that Android apps run on the device.
Of course it is possible that it is just a strange side effect (bug) in the upgrade process that is affecting only some devices.
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Well, in some way I'm comforted that I am not going insane here.
I will be calling customer support but in a perfect storm for some reason yesterday my Google Wallet account was "suspended pending validation" and it supposedly takes 2-3 days for Google to verify it and you can't get to the support number for Nexus and Google Experience devices without access to your wallet account .
If I learn something I will be letting you know.
same thing happened to me when I updated my s4 to 4.3 made the external SD card into read only cannot modify it using android only if I connect it with my PC. I called Google today they told me that they have not heard of this issue before but they forward the info to there technical people and they will respond back eventually for an email and hopefully a fix. but I am glad to see I am not the only one dealing with this. hopefully Google will get this issue fixed.
ES File Explorer works, so its not impossible for other apps to get updated to work.
I've been looking into this, trying to work around the issue in my own apps. Regrettably don't have a GS4 GPE, but working with users and searching have so far discovered the following:
The underlying problem is that in Android 4.3 (at least on the GS4 G.P. Edition), an application's UNIX user id needs to be part of the group "media_rw" in order to write to the removable "external" SD card.
The "WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE" permission that almost every app out there uses is inadequate. That will get your app uid added to the group "sdcard_rw", which in the case of Android 4.3+GS4 G.P.E. is only good enough to write to the built-in storage.
The "WRITE_MEDIA_STORAGE" permission is required in order to have your app uid added to the group "media_rw". The problem is that this is a system protected permission. You can put this permission in your manifest, but you won't actually be granted it unless you're a system app. (Even tested this modification to FX File Explorer to make sure, and it still fails).
There does appear to be one solution available if you have root: modify the /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml file and grant the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission access to the group "media_rw". Source of this is here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition/303764-4-3-sd-write-access.html I have not personally tried this.
Issues with external SD
tliebeck said:
There does appear to be one solution available if you have root: modify the /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml file and grant the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission access to the group "media_rw". Source of this is here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition/303764-4-3-sd-write-access.html I have not personally tried this.
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Hi!
I have the very same problem: some apps can access the external SD, some others do not.
I tried mount/unmount and root access in ES Explorer... but no way.
The freshly downloaded "Root Explorer" does have WRITE access to the ExtSD, but TBackup doesn't...
I am running Jamal 4.3 AOSP Rom on a EU i9505.
Any help is welcome!
Help! Got the same problem here
64gb samsung micro sd card. Always write protected and no other way to re-format it.
ivanslh said:
Help! Got the same problem here
64gb samsung micro sd card. Always write protected and no other way to re-format it.
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This solution here helped me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48702336&postcount=13
"I was having the very same problem. I finally went into the computer management, and was about to throw phone across room....when I tried to format one last time. This time I unchecked the quick format. It is taking longer, but seems to be working...I am keeping fingers crossed.
Full Format has finished and card is saved! Hope this helps anyone in the future."
tliebeck said:
There does appear to be one solution available if you have root: modify the /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml file and grant the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission access to the group "media_rw". Source of this is here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition/303764-4-3-sd-write-access.html I have not personally tried this.
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I know this is almost 1 year old but... I was struggling with this issue for some days until I tried this and: :laugh:This is the solution!
I recently purchased an MX10 Android TV Box running Android 7.1.2
It is supposed to be rooted and SuperSU came installed but when you run it, it reports that the SuperSU binary is not installed and SuperSU cannot install it. I've done a full factory reset but the image comes back broken like that.
I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file but I cannot get this box into recovery mode. Everything I've found says to stick a toothpick in the AV hole and power up the box. When I do that, the MX10 logo shows but then it pops up with "erasing" and then reboots. All that does is a full factory reset.
If I run Root Checker, it says I don't have root.
Anyone have any experience with this issue and this box? If I can't get into recovery mode then I can't fix SuperSU and/or update the firmware to one where I'm rooted.
The box otherwise seems to work ok with the exception that I cannot set a live wallpaper. I'm just not rooted.
Thanks for any help!
-TimG
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I recently purchased an MX10 Android TV Box running Android 7.1.2
It is supposed to be rooted and SuperSU came installed but when you run it, it reports that the SuperSU binary is not installed and SuperSU cannot install it. I've done a full factory reset but the image comes back broken like that.
I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file but I cannot get this box into recovery mode. Everything I've found says to stick a toothpick in the AV hole and power up the box. When I do that, the MX10 logo shows but then it pops up with "erasing" and then reboots. All that does is a full factory reset.
If I run Root Checker, it says I don't have root.
Anyone have any experience with this issue and this box? If I can't get into recovery mode then I can't fix SuperSU and/or update the firmware to one where I'm rooted.
The box otherwise seems to work ok with the exception that I cannot set a live wallpaper. I'm just not rooted.
Thanks for any help!
-TimG
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Yeah i just got mine yesterday and im having the same issue. I get a Root user account error with Root Checker Pro. Ive tried clearing data in the SU app but nothing. There is an update for SU in the Play Store but i read on Freaktab where someone said not to update SU app or it will give you a bootloop. I havent updated it yet cuz i wanted to do some more investigating but i really dont see the harm in just updating the app itself. I know updating the su binary will result in a bootloop because i updated the binary on my T95Z and got the bootloop. Ive been googling all day trying to find a TWRP.img file for the MX10 but have found nothing yet. Ive also been looking for a root method for this box as well but not sure what i should use. It would be nice if these each box had it own sub forum like the phones have.. would make life so much easier. lol
If you figure anything out i would appreciate if you would pass that info on.. will do likewise.
htxp://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/rockchip-based-tv-players/freaktabs-tools-utility-collection/656634-twrp-recovery-for-rockchip-devices
I'm in the same boat. Recieved my mx10 a week ago. Tried the tooth pick in the av port. Shows on screen 'erasing' and eventually factory defaults. No root
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I'm in the same boat. Recieved my mx10 a week ago. Tried the tooth pick in the av port. Shows on screen 'erasing' and eventually factory defaults. No root
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Have you updated the SU app? Not the su binary but the app from play store itself?
Hi, actually I was looking to root the MX10 but for a simple reason:
all I want to to is to get a shutdown or power off button, but this seems missing on the MX10 .. !!! First time I see a box without the shutdown option.
I looked up for apps providing power off button but they all require root access and so don’t work on the out-of-the-box MX10.
Anyone has same need and a solution?
Hi, I received my MX10, a few days ago and have the same problem (SuperSU issue).
I purchased it from GeekBuying, and posted on their blog, for the latest firmware update I could find: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/
Really want to root it, so I can edit the keyboard/remote control files to map keys on the H18+ remote I bought at the same time as the MX10.
I haven't tried flashing different firmware (or booting into recovery). If/when I receive a reply to my post on the GeekBuying blog, I'll post here - but no idea if they'll reply.
supergiulio said:
Hi, actually I was looking to root the MX10 but for a simple reason:
all I want to to is to get a shutdown or power off button, but this seems missing on the MX10 .. !!! First time I see a box without the shutdown option.
I looked up for apps providing power off button but they all require root access and so don’t work on the out-of-the-box MX10.
Anyone has same need and a solution?
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Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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Seems really odd that it would come with Super SU installed, and not be rooted. Then again, it also advertises (on GeekBuying.com - in case anyone purchased elsewhere) that it comes with Kodi pre-installed, and mine didn't.
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TimothyGaray said:
...I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file...-TimG
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Whereabouts did you get the firmware? Was it this one MX10_RK3328_KODI18.0_20171208.img ? Listed on this GeekBuying blog entry: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/
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Seems really odd that it would come with Super SU installed, and not be rooted. Then again, it also advertises (on GeekBuying.com - in case anyone purchased elsewhere) that it comes with Kodi pre-installed, and mine didn't.
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Whereabouts did you get the firmware? Was it this one MX10_RK3328_KODI18.0_20171208.img ? Listed on this GeekBuying blog entry: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/
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Yeah i agree.. odd it ships with su installed but no root. Theres some fw's on this page.... ive downloaded just in case i ever need it... dont see why i would since there is no root though. lol
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...3328-4-32gb-tv-box-2-4ghz-wifi-fast-lan/page2
Hi mate,
Try my guide in the Media TV Box Amlogic forum. The recovery image is for TWRP. But you could try Philz or others. Worked on S912 and S905 so far fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
No root? I suggest you follow backup instructions, take 3 backups - all paritions, boot only, recovery only.
Then you can extract the boot image from your backup and use that with Magisk to root your system. After Magisk modifies your boot image, reboot, and flash the modified package via TWRP bootable (see topic)
If you have anything you wish to contribute, please feel free to post anything you have learnt that you feel will help others.
Cheers mate!
Thanks for the tip
Thanks Freak69! It was so easy ... but still it would be good to root the MX10
freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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Hi mate,
Try my guide in the Media TV Box Amlogic forum. The recovery image is for TWRP. But you could try Philz or others. Worked on S912 and S905 so far fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
No root? I suggest you follow backup instructions, take 3 backups - all paritions, boot only, recovery only.
Then you can extract the boot image from your backup and use that with Magisk to root your system. After Magisk modifies your boot image, reboot, and flash the modified package via TWRP bootable (see topic)
If you have anything you wish to contribute, please feel free to post anything you have learnt that you feel will help others.
Cheers mate!
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Hey @flipmode_11 - which TWRP image should we use, please? In your post, you state to, "Download the X96 Media Player TWRP Recovery image...or a different device". As the X96 is S905X (from a quick Google - don't shoot me if I'm wrong!) and the MX10 is RK3328, the TWRP image for the X96 wouldn't work, would it? I took a look at the list of devices and can't find a matching device.
Cheers,
Richard.
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Somethng that REALLY annoys me about the MX10, is that I can't get it to write to my external USB drive (NTFS). It worked just fine - out of the box - on my old MXIII-G, but the MX10 just won't write to it (Total Commander and an FTP server app I usually use in order to access it from my LAN). Is this because of some weird driver, or because of root (permissions... I checked under apps and it has access to storage - but of course it does, because it can read the drive)?
I'm probably not too fussed about rooting this thing, if I can just get external drives working with it.
I did read about Android not supporting NTFS, for write - but my old MXIII-G did, so I'm assuming this should, too. The only other thing I can think of, is that the MXIII-G had something in the firmware for writing to NTFS.
I can't see why there would be external USB drive support, but you can't write to it - I mean, it's a TV box, surely there are some other people out there who copy movies, etc. to an external drive on the box, to watch?
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
RADiuMOz said:
Hey @flipmode_11 - which TWRP image should we use, please? In your post, you state to, "Download the X96 Media Player TWRP Recovery image...or a different device". As the X96 is S905X (from a quick Google - don't shoot me if I'm wrong!) and the MX10 is RK3328, the TWRP image for the X96 wouldn't work, would it? I took a look at the list of devices and can't find a matching device.
Cheers,
Richard.
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Somethng that REALLY annoys me about the MX10, is that I can't get it to write to my external USB drive (NTFS). It worked just fine on my old MXIII-G, but the MX10 just won't write to it (Total Commander and an FTP server app I usually use in order to access it from my LAN). Is this because of some weird driver, or because of root (permissions... I checked under apps and it has access to storage - but of course it does, because it can read the drive)?
I'm probably not too fussed about rooting this thing, if I can just get external drives working with it.
I did read about Android not supporting NTFS, for write - but my old MXIII-G did, so I'm assuming this should, too. The only other thing I can think of, is that the MXIII-G had something in the firmware for writing to NTFS.
I can't see why there would be external USB drive support, but you can't write to it - I mean, it's a TV box, surely there are some other people out there who copy movies, etc. to an external drive on the box, to watch?
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flipmode_11 said:
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
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Ok so ive been on Samsung for the last 5-6 years and never had to backup things like boot.img, recovery.img cuz we have have odin, so there was never any need to...... so i just did a google search on how to do this but it only brings up ways to do it with root. Can you explain how to do this or link to a tut?
Also could i get a more in depth of using Magisk? I have it on my HTC M7 but i rarely ever play around with it... actually im root with SU on it. So i have to run Magisk on my MX10.. search for boot.img.. patch it.. flash some zip in twrp.. and how do i get twrp on the box.. through adb? I should know this as long as ive been rooting but root on U.S. snapdragon samsung phones is totally different since the bootloader cant be unlocked. Thanks for your info so far bro
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flipmode_11 said:
Did you see my questions?
Where did you source your device from? Ebay? Online? Retail?
What software and steps above did you try?
Did you try the Paragon app with Total Commander?
Did you try downloading the recovery.img linked in the Media TV Box category? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75644464
Using Magisk is even more important these days as developers attempt to detect SU/Root, plus Magisk does not make modifications to your /System partition which makes life MUCH easier upgrading / troubleshooting / debugging and allows you to mask Root/SuperUser to then use all apps (Spotify, Play, Netflix, Stan, et al.)
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I got my box from Amazon. Ive not tried anything with it yet. I dont use Total Commander.. that was another guy saying something about it and wanting to be able to write to external sd... i could care less for that. I want root for adaway and a few other things. Im using Blockada right now to block ads but i cant use it and Expressvpn at the same time.. so my choices are either block ads or run vpn to be anonymous.. cant do both because you cant run two vpns at the same time in android and blockada's vpn is not the same kind of vpn.
Ok i just read your thread.. i will give it a try sometime this weekend maybe.
Ya know the weird thing is is that DevCheck says i have root and busybox installed. Su app is there but say su binaries arent installed. I dont get why this box is shipped like this. lol
You are funny! I was talking to @RADiuMOz - I had quoted him.
No wonder your reply made no sense. Then my reply made no sense.
Please see my topic on AMLogic devices "AMLogic S905 S912 FAQ ✰ Fix Root, Switch SU, Backup/Restore etc ✩ Media Player TV Box" here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
I would suggest you follow the steps to Backup first as it does not make any changes to your system.
Then follow steps to Root (download 3 files) and proceed with the FAQ I have written on how to root and which of the 3 methods suit you (probably the one similar to Part 1 of the backup, plus flashing the ZIP.
I had similar corrupt Root issue where SU and SUD were present, but didn't appear to have permissions. Some apps reported Root OK, and others No Root.
Anyway, let me know how you go. I have documented how to un-root / clean-up and then to re-root your system (i.e. Corrupt Root). Reply there.
Cheers!
p.s. May I suggest you check out AdGuard instead of AdAway? It lets you subscribe to block lists, plus you can set-up DUAL VPN's with it (read their KB/FAQ's). AdGuard's menu's allows you to accomodate both being able to VPN and run adblocking at the same time - ROOT Free. So you can probably ignore everything I have even said! LOL (AdGuard > Left Menu > Settings > Proxy Settings)
VyprVPN is far better and I suggest you try them when they have a promo. You can enable an option to block malicious servers, etc. But no way of managing this and adding adverts. Anyway, I switched and tried various VPN providers and found VyprVPN far better, plus offer a higher level of OpenVPN encryption which is not blocked or detected by 3rd parties called "Chameleon".
freak69ize said:
I got my box from Amazon. I want root for AdAway and a few other things. Im using Blockada right now to block ads but i cant use it and ExpressVPN at the same time.. so my choices are either block ads or run vpn to be anonymous.. cant do both because you cant run two vpns at the same time in android and blockada's vpn is not the same kind of vpn.
Ok i just read your thread.. i will give it a try sometime this weekend maybe.
Ya know the weird thing is is that DevCheck says i have root and busybox installed. Su app is there but say su binaries arent installed. I dont get why this box is shipped like this. lol
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EXPERIMENT: Has anyone tried an OTG adapter in the USB-C slot for a Galaxy S8? Then connect a small USB drive with a recovery.img only, formatted in FAT32? You could even try placing the recovery.img on your Micro SD inside your phone...? Perhaps while holding down menu + up or menu + down, switch on your phone, and it might read the recovery.img on the external memory and boot into that?
*Anyway*, try the same thing in your MX10 and report back add success. Use a compatible S905 TWRP recovery.img (see my type here with download attached and tested with S905x Devices.
Hmm... So many ideas... so many things I have not tried!
freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart. Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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flipmode_11 said:
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
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First up - sorry mate - I actually thought I'd replied to your post, but clearly either didn't submit it, or just dreamed the whole thing.
I have to wait for free time at the weekends (I have kids), but I'll go back to your topic and give that a go.
As for NTFS, etc. I ended up buying a Synology DS218J NAS box as I want my daughter to be able to back up her MacBook to it, as well as probably back up some of my stuff to it as well - and of course then use for the MX10. I bought it from GeekBuying, and they're not that particularly helpful. Not intentionally unhelpful, though.
My MXIII-G was great for just working straight out of the box, with the external NTFS drive (exact same drive).
So now, as for rooting, my only reason will be so I can remap some of the keys on my remote - but don't absolutely have to do that. But I'll do backups anyway, so that I'm ready for if/when any firmware updates come out.
I'll certainly know to have a MUCH better look round, before buying my next Android TV box, though - that's for sure. I did a quick search, but didn't find anything on a user level - but also didn't search XDA: just did a regular Google search.
Thanks for your detailed reply, as I know it takes time and thought on your part - it's much appreciated. As soon as I've got something to report, I'll post in the same thread, so other people can perhaps benefit from my findings.
Cheers,
Richard.
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flipmode_11 said:
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
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Apologies! I thought I'd replied, here, but clearly didn't submit it, or just dreamed I had. I've replied to your PM, but also for anyone/everyone else's benefit (and in brief), I bought my MX10 from GeekBuying. I just bought a NAS box, so I'm going to use that instead of trying to get NTFS working, although the people at GeekBuying said, "Our factory tests show that the MX10 can read and write ntfs hard drives. So please try again." I'd be interested to hear whether anyone else is able to write to NTFS.
I'm going to go back to your topic, and give that a go - and will then post back here, to let everyone know (hopefully might benefit someone).
Cheers,
Richard.
i have mx10 and it suddenly stuck in start logo when i open,i dont have any idea please help.
i try to factory reset using toothpick and hit the factory reset no command coming out to delete all files and quick return to booth the system.
whwn i try to reboot again stuck in start logo i'll wait for 30 min but still just rounding the startup logo.Please help me...