rooting the nook for a child - Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet

rooting the nook for a child - Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet

i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys, these are the 1st gen nook tablets not the hd

Rooting just opens up the device. You'll still have full access to the stock interface and BN app store and what have you.
You can make a really child friendly user imterface with a rooted device running an alternate launcher. That way you can make different home screen with the apps you want them to use easily accessable.
Give it a go! It's really easy to go back should you want to.

asawi said:
Rooting just opens up the device. You'll still have full access to the stock interface and BN app store and what have you.
You can make a really child friendly user imterface with a rooted device running an alternate launcher. That way you can make different home screen with the apps you want them to use easily accessable.
Give it a go! It's really easy to go back should you want to.
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thanks i dread having to do the whole sd card ota block thing again and havent done it in about a year. is there a good video out there to walk me through step by step again for the ota block? and can someone recommend the best barest bones rom to root afterwards to make it as easy for a child to use as possible?
and i think i had trouble the last time because only a certain size sd card could be used. wasn't it just the 2 or 4 gb that worked? thanks and sorry for all the questions. just have to get this done tonight so i can fedex it to texas to get there in time for xmas.

A rooted nook is just marginally better than a stock nook in terms of access to more apps, but might be more confusing to kids since it has two coexisting interfaces. You would be better off sticking with stock or go all out android with full-fledged CM10.

I think the rooted stock NT is loads better than than the true stock. LOADS! Had the stock reader dealt better with my side loaded books I wouldn't have installed CM10 internally.
I agree that the double interface can be a bit confusing but to kids that age it shouldn't be much of a problem.
The OTA block is just a process of a few clicks from within the NT hidden settings app.

asawi said:
I think the rooted stock NT is loads better than than the true stock. LOADS! Had the stock reader dealt better with my side loaded books I wouldn't have installed CM10 internally.
I agree that the double interface can be a bit confusing but to kids that age it shouldn't be much of a problem.
The OTA block is just a process of a few clicks from within the NT hidden settings app.
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im trying to use the same albert video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zbT1Fj38nE, but the file doesnt even seem to be there anymore, and his updated video shows how to create a root v4 card. im totally confused. do you still need to block otas? and if so is there another link that shows that step by step. im ready to just send these back and forget the whole thing

No need for any video!
There are a couple of ready-made root images that are almost automatic. Burn the card, pop it in, install zip from card and you're rooted. Go to Google Play (it may show up as "market" at first and make sure you have updated version of NT Hidden settings to block OTA. It could not be much easier! If can watch a film on your DVD player you can do this without instruction video!
Brian's root (that I havetried once and really liked!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Alberts (that I have also used several times and like as well): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
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And to expand a little:
1. Root the Tablet following the instructions in the root method you choose
2. Go to Google Market/Play and search for NT Hidden Settings
3. Open NT Hidden settings. Tap on "Hacks". When the prompt comes up "Allow" root access. You now get to a new menu where you can chhos Block OTA, Done!
Basic rooting instructions:
1. Download image file
2. Download imaging software if you don't already have it. (I like WinImage. I keep it in a folder and put my various image files in the same folder to make them easy to find)
3. Use your imaging software to burn a sd card. Albert's image will fit on a small card. I use a 1 GB, but I think smaller ones will do as well. Brian's image needs a larger card. I'm not sure how large, but the instructions probably tells you!
4. Boot to your sd card and follow the instructions for the method you have choosen. There are step by step instructions in both of the methods I have linked to, and probably others as well!
5. Done!

asawi said:
No need for any video!
There are a couple of ready-made root images that are almost automatic. Burn the card, pop it in, install zip from card and you're rooted. Go to Google Play (it may show up as "market" at first and make sure you have updated version of NT Hidden settings to block OTA. It could not be much easier! If can watch a film on your DVD player you can do this without instruction video!
Brian's root (that I havetried once and really liked!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Alberts (that I have also used several times and like as well): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
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And to expand a little:
1. Root the Tablet following the instructions in the root method you choose
2. Go to Google Market/Play and search for NT Hidden Settings
3. Open NT Hidden settings. Tap on "Hacks". When the prompt comes up "Allow" root access. You now get to a new menu where you can chhos Block OTA, Done!
Basic rooting instructions:
1. Download image file
2. Download imaging software if you don't already have it. (I like WinImage. I keep it in a folder and put my various image files in the same folder to make them easy to find)
3. Use your imaging software to burn a sd card. Albert's image will fit on a small card. I use a 1 GB, but I think smaller ones will do as well. Brian's image needs a larger card. I'm not sure how large, but the instructions probably tells you!
4. Boot to your sd card and follow the instructions for the method you have choosen. There are step by step instructions in both of the methods I have linked to, and probably others as well!
5. Done!
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thank you so much for this help, figured it would be a slam dunk from here but when i try and unzip brians ntsdcard image file it says its corrupted and when i try and run alberts 32 diskimager it says it cant computer it. ive reinstalled and rebooted 3 times. can someone else try and open these file to se if its just my computer? dont know why it would be. or is there another work around? i heard he just sells the bootdisks. maybe thats the way to go. thanks again for all your help

I downloaded Albert's package. My virus protection alerter me, but that's probably because of the scripts that do need to be in that package, so I ignored that (I trust Albert!).
I then unzipped that into anew folder.
Inside that folder I find Wini32DiskImager, and I just open it from within that folder. (I realize I was mistaken in my previous post, This is the disk imager I prefer to use even though I've used others as well)
The program just opens in a small window. In the "choose file box" you automatically get directed to the folder you opened up from. That's why I keep my images there. Pick the one you want (you'll jut have one unless you've added)
Click "Write" when you've made sure the sd-cards drive letter is the one in the top right box.

gorelow said:
thank you so much for this help, figured it would be a slam dunk from here but when i try and unzip brians ntsdcard image file it says its corrupted and when i try and run alberts 32 diskimager it says it cant computer it. ive reinstalled and rebooted 3 times. can someone else try and open these file to se if its just my computer? dont know why it would be. or is there another work around? i heard he just sells the bootdisks. maybe thats the way to go. thanks again for all your help
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this is the error i get the program cant start because libgcc_s dw2_dll is missing from your computer

I have now downbloaded and unszipped Brians file as well. Totally problem free!
What are you using to unzip? I use 7-zip.
By the way, I can now see that it looks like Brian's image needs a 2 GB card.
And for clairfication, you don't actually have to install Win32DiskImager. Just open it from within the folder!
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gorelow said:
this is the error i get the program cant start because libgcc_s dw2_dll is missing from your computer
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Check the folder. That dll should be in the folder. It is in mine (the one I created just now). Are you really opening the program from within the folder?

The simplest and best rooting instruction I've found is one provided by liquidzoo's here.
I'd also suggest that before rooting the NT, you make a backup of your NT current software using the backup option of the same Recovery program that you will use to install the rooting mods.
If you have problem writing disk image with Win32DiskImager, you can use DiskImage_1_6_WinAll.exe instead.
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asawi said:
I think the rooted stock NT is loads better than than the true stock. LOADS!
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We'll learn soon enough the moment the kids want some recently released game apps and find out they can't have them because they are not compatible with 2+ year-old Android Gingerbread which is what the stock ROM is based on.

gorelow said:
thanks i dread having to do the whole sd card ota block thing again and havent done it in about a year. is there a good video out there to walk me through step by step again for the ota block? and can someone recommend the best barest bones rom to root afterwards to make it as easy for a child to use as possible?
and i think i had trouble the last time because only a certain size sd card could be used. wasn't it just the 2 or 4 gb that worked? thanks and sorry for all the questions. just have to get this done tonight so i can fedex it to texas to get there in time for xmas.
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You are getting your terminology confused as well. Asking what is the best barest bones ROM to root is incorrect.
To root means you give the nook superuser access which in turn allows you to load play store, apps, new launcher, and any SU related functions.
A ROM is a fully functioning version of android. IE: CM 7(GB), CM 9(ICS), CM 10(JB). It automatically has root access built in.
As for loading a ROM due to worrying about the kids and the interface, stock nook sucks...period. My 8 y/o has had zero issues with either cm 7 or cm10. Do yourself and them a favor and put at least CM 7 but preferably CM 10 on it.
Image files for dummies can be found at iamafanof.wordpress.com
Sent from my CM 10 SD nook tablet. Thanks devs.

gorelow said:
i purchased 2 nook tablets for an 8 and 11 year old. im debating whether to not root it because i think it wil be easier for them to follow interface and the only downside i see is having to pay for apps that may be free on amazon or play store. can i have some input here? is there a super easy rooted rom that a child can follow? or are there many free aps if i just keep it as an out of box nook. thanks so much guys, these are the 1st gen nook tablets not the hd
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My sons are 8 and 12. Trust me, your kids won't have a bit of trouble with the CM10 interface. One of the nice extras in CM10 is that you can configure profiles to block them from getting into apps you don't want them to -- like settings, email, etc... Also, you can PIN-protect the Play Store so that they don't accidentally purchase anything.

SlowCobra96 said:
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Image files for dummies can be found at iamafanof.wordpress.com
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Since the OP will be using two NTs I'd suggest building the CM10 SD card from scratch (using the info and tools posted at http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/how-to-guide-bootable-cm7cm9cm10-sdcard-for-nook-tablet/ and which I have provided a summary digest here), since there have been reports of NTs running the precooked CM10 SD image having identical MAC addresses and hence not able to concurrently access a same WiFi network (in this case the OP's household WiFi network).

I'm not saying rooted stock is as good as for example CM10. Not at all! CM 10 is awsome, and user interface is really nice!
But for a user that is intimidated by even the simple rooting process putting CM10 internally should not be even considered at this point. Thankfully the sd version of CM runs just as smooth as the internal install (at least it does from my 8GB Sandisk class 4) so that could certainly be an option as soon as the OP has figured out how to use the disk image writer! Yesterday even that was troublesome.
What I'm saying (if not straight out in my previous posts) is that rooted stock certainly is not bad! It depends on the kids and what they are used to if it will be "enough". For the kids near me (ages 4, 8,5 and 14) it certainly would! The bigger ones are girls that read a lot and apart from reading, watching Youtube videos and surfing (reading fashion blogs...) they are happy with a few cute games. Maybe if they had been boys and/or had tech savvy parents they would have asked for more, but they don't.
Either way, let's try to help the OP as well as we can!

asawi said:
I have now downbloaded and unszipped Brians file as well. Totally problem free!
What are you using to unzip? I use 7-zip.
By the way, I can now see that it looks like Brian's image needs a 2 GB card.
And for clairfication, you don't actually have to install Win32DiskImager. Just open it from within the folder!
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Check the folder. That dll should be in the folder. It is in mine (the one I created just now). Are you really opening the program from within the folder?
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i think it was the winzip that was screwing me up. i used 7zip and it opened right up and i burned it onto the sd card. then after i powered off i held the n button and the N button and i was only brought to a screen that said so you want to factory reset. isnt that the way to boot up? it didnt seem to recognize the unziped ntboot file. thanks

Try to just boot up (from completely turned off) without holding any buttons. If you do need to keep the "n" pressed down at first, that's just for a few seconds and then let go. Some people need to keep the Tablet turned off and insert apowered USB cable (menaing it's coneected to the charger, not computer) to get it to boot from sd-card. No buttons pressed! I have never needed that myself, but I hear many others do.

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Webtop Help(OpenOffice)

Hello-
I am new to the boards as a poster, i've been reading for a while now and I must thank everyone especially in the development section of the forum for their incredible amount of help and expertise.
It has officially come time for my first noob question-
Can anyone help me out or lead me to a guide perhaps that will allow me to use OpenOffice on my webtop? This is really what I bought the lapdock for-it just came in yesterday.
I managed to get webtop2sd working on my own, lxterminal is functional. That's all I've got so far in fear of ruining anything else.
I'm not at all well-versed in any linux script or anything of the sort. I know windows like the back of my hand.. just so happens that my windows PC totally bit the dust(motherboard) last night and I'm forced into learning this stuff a little quicker. Why not, right?
I have done some searching, all of it leads me to a bunch of lingo and commands I don't understand yet. If anyone can point me in the direction of some help or provide me with a little one-on-one that would be awesome. I'm looking forward to helping others with these kinds of issues down the road.
Thank you!
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Also, I'm not sure if it's any help, but i'm running GB on Alien #4 with faux123's undefined 1.3ghz kernel.

See "EASY METHOD" in the original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093790
Assuming you have webtop2sd and the linux addon installed properly
(with the linux image on your external SD), do the following:
1) Click the Penguin. You will get a window that says it has found an image in you external SD card.
2) Simply press "okay" on that window.
3) Once it shows the Pdmenu, select DebianMenus>Applications>Shells>Bash. it will bring up an xterm script which reads "[email protected]:/#"
4) To get open office, you must type "apt-get install openoffice.org" without the quotes.
5) Agree to install/update, and it will read "[email protected]:/#" once it is done.
6) At this point, and from now on, you can do steps 1-3 and simply type "openoffice.org" into xterm. It will take a second, but it will load a fully functional OpenOffice.
Basically you just need to know the package names to use this same structure for other programs. I use "openoffice.org", "iceweasel" (a firefox alternative, since my firefox keeps breaking), and "geany" (a C++ IDE for my programming classes). These are installed using "apt-get install packagename" and run using "packagename" in the bash script as well.
Good luck, and PM me if you have any problems because I likely will forget to return to this thread. Hit that thanks button!
-omni

Follow the guide in Alex's thread in the dev forum. I just installed open office yesterday haha.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App

+1 to both of you, I'll get started on that and hopefully that will open doors for the rest of the stuff. Thanks a ton

Hello again all-
I didn't want to be that guy posting 95823094820394 threads about the same thing so I just figured I'd bump the one i created with some explanation:
I have webtop2sd properly(i believe, anyway) installed. LXterminal is functional. I also have linuxdisk in sdcard(-ext)/WebTopMOD . I'm not sure what to do from here. the help given above gave instructions to click the penguin while in webtop and run certain commands, but the penguin only brings up the webtop configurator. i have no other icons to click.
My goal, again, is just to get open office running on my webtop, for now. That's really it, the rest i'm sure will come with time. Thank you again for any help.

I seem to have figured it out for the most part using Alex's guide. However, the installation threw a couple errors, couldn't really tell you what they were because they were epic and I'm clueless as far as linux for the time being. However, my educated guess and deduction points towards insufficient memory. I set up my webtop partition to be 1GB, because I'm using a 16GB sd card that's virtually full of music. Is 1GB skimping it if I want to install openoffice/other linux packages? What size partition is recommended?
Thank you!

4GB is recommended, though I would think based on the package sizes that openoffice.org would squeeze into a 1gb partition. With this phone I would definitely recommend an external SD. My 32GB holds my webtopmod, music, and every hack, mod, bootanimation, theme, kernel, radio, and zip I've ever flashed. Do it.

Also openoffice worked, But i think it dosent match the atrix ubuntu core perfectly.
An error name:"openoffice Writer2laterx dose not configured" happened again and again.

omni_angel7 said:
4GB is recommended, though I would think based on the package sizes that openoffice.org would squeeze into a 1gb partition. With this phone I would definitely recommend an external SD. My 32GB holds my webtopmod, music, and every hack, mod, bootanimation, theme, kernel, radio, and zip I've ever flashed. Do it.
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i am using an external SD, a 16 GB one. i'm about to make a 4GB partition and start from scratch. eventually, i'm picking up a 32 no doubt.

After making a full re-installation of everything I can't get open office to install? I tried both via terminal and Synaptic both fail with error messages.
"dpkg error processing tzdata" Error code (1) error in package
Any ideas?
Cheers

pederb said:
After making a full re-installation of everything I can't get open office to install? I tried both via terminal and Synaptic both fail with error messages.
"dpkg error processing tzdata" Error code (1) error in package
Any ideas?
Cheers
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my guide links a fix for that, but I use a different method than the one previously posted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397583&highlight=guide+webtop

Thxs, I will check it out
Cheers

Cant open files from sdcard
Hello, I finally got openoffice installed, but I dont know how I can open files located in my sdcard. Can anyone please help me with this?

Indirect's Winows-based Root Method Not Working for me

Hi all,
First off, just want to say thanks to all of the hardworking devs out there that put a lot of time and effort into these projects. You guys are really awesome!
Secondly, I tried to post this as a reply in the developer's forum, but didn't have enough posts to qualify.
That all being said, I followed all of the instructions in Indirect's post here, but can't get the Nook Tablet to bring up recovery mode when I reboot. It just continues to load the standard B&N image. I even tried a factory reset to see if that would work, but same problem. I verified that the files on the micro-SD card match those as shown in Albert's excellent video here. The device is still running 1.4.0.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated!

No luck here either...I tried the root while watching Albert's You Tube video at the same time. I think the significant thing is that my screen displays something like:
Extracting files to SYSTEM...
Setting SYSTEM:bin/su permissions to 06755...
Creating SYSTEM:xbin/su symbolic link...
Installation Complete!
Install from sdcard complete.
Whereas the screen in the video shows:
Extracting files to SYSTEM...
Setting SYSTEM:bin/su permissions to 06755...
Creating SYSTEM:xbin/su symbolic link...
Installing GApps 29110878
For Android 2.3.5 Customized for the nook tablet
Mounting data...
Extracting files to data...
Unmounting data...
Install complete. Enjoy!
Installation Complete!
So clearly my install seems to silently abort somewhere in the middle...
Any insight or advice would be appreciated!

Removed...
~ Veronica
Sent from XDA premium using my Nook Tablet

Beatbox,
Just re-reading your post I think I got farther than you, but also got stuck on your issue earlier. If you keep the Nook plugged into the PC via the USB cable during the power on, the Nook will boot into the recovery mode - that at least was what got me past your issue.

It's not about Rooting OR recovery. It's about the fact that this method is still being worked on. Indirect has been making modifications to the various files and it is my opinion that the file used in Albert's video is NOT the same file that would be downloaded if you went and obtained it right now.
I would wait this out until Indirect writes an updated post explaining that the method is finalized.
If this is not an option the original root method works perfectly.

Land - when you say "original root method" are you talking about something that predates Albert's solution?

jearley9 said:
Land - when you say "original root method" are you talking about something that predates Albert's solution?
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See this Thread
If you are running 1.4.1 you will need to downgrade first.
See Here

jearley9 said:
Beatbox,
Just re-reading your post I think I got farther than you, but also got stuck on your issue earlier. If you keep the Nook plugged into the PC via the USB cable during the power on, the Nook will boot into the recovery mode - that at least was what got me past your issue.
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Cool jearley9, this did indeed work for me and I was able to load the image. Problem now is that I always end up at the normal B&N Setup screen. Were you able to get past that part?
And thanks to all the other thread participants. I know it takes time to work these things out, so no biggie. We all get a little too excited and impatient with things like these sometimes.

Thanks - looking it over now...
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Beat,
Does your screen match my screen or the one in Albert's video? If it matches then you and I have the same problem. If not then you have something different going on...

jearley9 said:
Thanks - looking it over now...
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Beat,
Does your screen match my screen or the one in Albert's video? If it matches then you and I have the same problem. If not then you have something different going on...
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Definitely matches yours. Just didn't know if you got further than I did after rebooting.

Land Master said:
See this Thread
If you are running 1.4.1 you will need to downgrade first.
See Here
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Just wanted to provide an update. I attempted the instructions from the original rooting thread (my nook tablet doesn't have 1.4.1 yet, so didn't need to downgrade). When I ran the batch file to root, it detected that the device was already rooted - which I quote from the script, "Is bothersome."
Okay, so i think my device is half-rooted somehow. Just can't get the new home screen that I'm seeing on all the videos. I'll keep you guys updated with my further troubleshooting attempts.

Beat, you and I are at least synchronized - I too tried the original root method, and I had the same exact problem as you describe... a message saying "already rooted". I did a system reset right before I tried the root, so I don't see how it could be "already rooted".
I just purchased my Nook yesterday. I am wondering if there are newer units (mine included) that are more resistant to being rooted?

I'm having the same issue, but I can use the search function to determine that apps WERE installed (and will execute properly). I believe that Indirect has removed ADW launcher and Homecatcher from the zip we're suppossed to drop onto the SD Card. My guess is that we're waiting for him to come up with a solution to the "Market not showing up in launcher" issue.
Can someone confirm this?

Well any other tactics I've tried have been to no avail, so I'll just be patient and wait for Indirect to address it. I'm sure he has enough on his plate without us bugging him.
Many thanks to him again for even working on something like this.
Edit:
Okay, for some reason I missed Albert Wertz's helpful Youtube comment:
Please Vote this comment up so everyone else can read it among all the others. Indirect is making some changes to the script, if you dont get adw to launch right after the first reboot from root, you may have to download it manually from the market. You can use the N button menu search function to pull up market by typing M in the search. You can launcher it from here. Until the bugs are worked out, you may only be able to install from market, sideloading may still be an issue. Indirect is fixin
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I did this and have no problem bringing up the Android Market now. Just installed an app successfully. Not sure where it lives though. I could only seem to launch it from the Recently Downloaded icon at the bottom bar.
Edit 2:
Okay, just restarted after installing the ADW and now it prompted me to start with it. Only issue I have now is if I hit the N button, it reverts back to the original Barnes & Noble homescreen and I have to reboot to launch ADW again.

I got pretty much to the same place - I downloaded HomeCatcher but that seems to be non-functional - Looks like the Nook home screen is winning this round...

jearley9 said:
Beat, you and I are at least synchronized - I too tried the original root method, and I had the same exact problem as you describe... a message saying "already rooted". I did a system reset right before I tried the root, so I don't see how it could be "already rooted".
I just purchased my Nook yesterday. I am wondering if there are newer units (mine included) that are more resistant to being rooted?
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To truly "reset" the system run the downgrade I linked previously EVEN IF you are on 1.4.0. After that it will be just like you took the NT out of the box. Then run the Indirect Root Batch and the "you are already rooted" should be gone. I would hope so anyway

Land,
I did the press and hold 9 times and got back to factory state.
Also, I tried Brianf21's files and I got the same problem as you. If I try to open Update.Zip from Windows it gives me "Please insert last disk of a multi-volume set...". I would guess that the zip file is malformed or incomplete, but that's just a guess...
-jearley

jearley9 said:
Land,
I did the press and hold 9 times and got back to factory state.
Also, I tried Brianf21's files and I got the same problem as you. If I try to open Update.Zip from Windows it gives me "Please insert last disk of a multi-volume set...". I would guess that the zip file is malformed or incomplete, but that's just a guess...
-jearley
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I copied this post to the Development Thread in my recent reply to Brianf21. It is conceivable at this point that you and I are the only ones that have tried this. lol
Please put information regarding future attempts in that thread to help him troubleshoot.
Glad to see that you were able to reset. I don't believe it will be necessary again if Brian fixes the issue. To my knowledge simply entering CWM using his image had NO affect on my NT.

Land,
Sorry I can't comply with your request - the forum software won't let me post in the development area due to my "newness" - I am 53 years old and have 30 years of software/firmware development experience, but to this forum I am a "newbie"
jearley

jearley9 said:
Land,
Sorry I can't comply with your request - the forum software won't let me post in the development area due to my "newness" - I am 53 years old and have 30 years of software/firmware development experience, but to this forum I am a "newbie"
jearley
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Alrighty then.... I don't know if I should laugh or cry. You can't even "post" in the Dev section? I wonder how many posts you need. Seems a little extreme to me but you will get there soon enough I guess.
In the meantime I'll make sure that your comments are known. Thanks!

[Q] Noob - Attempting windows root method questions

***Solved*** I ended up using Albert's 4.5 along with his videos, worked great!!
Thanks again for all the help.
Believe it or not I have searched and read much in attempting to answer these questions without starting another thread. Probably because I am such an android noob I am not able to find answers I understand.
Primary questions:
Using windows SD card flash method from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21895025&postcount=14
I am able to flash the SD card with the image fine.
Not sure what the note under instruction step 2 means
Instruction 2 "NOTE: Do not extract the .zip with superuser and su."
step 6 says to put "the zip" in the root of the sd card. What zip are we talking about? There was only a single download zip with all the files including the image so I assume it means this complete download zip even though it makes references later to "update.zip" (I do not have a file named "update.zip".
When I reboot after inserting the sd card I get the screens as described but the verbiage is not exactly as listed in the instructions.
Options I receive:
"install zip from sd card"
"choose zip from sdcard"
"apply /sdcard/update.zip"
selecting /sdcard/cwm_sd_flash_and_exe.zip
receive
"finding update package"
"opening update package"
"installing update...
"installation aborted"
Secondary questions:
o Do all of the many rooting options get you to the same end result?
ie same version of android, market access, updates blocked, additional apps, loader options, etc
o Are we close enough to a true dual boot sd option (leaving base device untouched) as referenced in the cm7 release thread that I should just wait for that?
Thanks much for any help for a noob, and I beg forgiveness if I am treading ground that has been explained many times before.

As i see that you can boot into CWM i would suggest to get a more finished ROM for yourself, i have posted one of them. They are in development section you might want to take a look, there are 2 roms for 1.4.0 and one for 1.4.1.
All the root methods are not the same, and it all relies on what you want, for example keep B&N content or debloat B&N content, also there are some methods that don't include all google apps. So take a look at what they offer and pick what best suits you.
As for dualboot sdcard it is possible as everything in life but its not close. First let devs release a beta of CM7 and wait for CM9, eventually we will get there just be patience.
~ Veronica

Noob Root Questions me too!
I haven' t tried this yet but had the same basic questions about the instructions (i.e. which zip is being referred to). I believe you are told not to click on the su, super user zip cause you should install that AFTER you have established the basic root (i.e., get CWM and install Nook/Zergy). I could be wrong, maybe one if the kind people that know more can clarify this. In the meantime I think I am going to use the video AlbertWeitz made on youtube with accompanying links to scripts for root. Check youtube or development threads, he offers videos on rooting NT with an SD card to include or not include access to the Barnes and Noble software for your library. I think having the video will help. This is not really a different root method but based on the work of Indirect (whose post you are following) and many others...Albert did add some apps I think. Indirect also released a Superuser Tool recently (in dev thread) which has root in it but no specific instructions when you select the root process...just what you find in the post you are looking at (no offense to Indirect....you are a god!) Albert's mission has been to help us noobs along with the root already developed by making videos. I think he intends to make one for Indirect's Supertool but why wait? Once you've rooted you will b able to instsll beta ROM theoretically coming this Tuesday internally. External ROM as suggested in previous posts, is sometime off in the future.
I hope this info helps. I've pmed Albert to make sure that OP is up to date as far as the links go, I checked the whole thread and don't see any subsequent changes. Hopefully he will have time to respond and I will repost reply here (if I can figure out how to do that)! Still unsure of how to attach links to posts...how do you do that?
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Checked your suggested ROM and looks great...just too chicken to try it without a video to follow! Noob jitters....

From the thread you jsut quoted, it took me a day to figure it out the first time I rooted
I've been keeping up on that forum as much as I can since I got my Nook Tablet two weeks ago. In order to get my install to work, I ended up having to read that entire thread, bouncing between instructional posts, downloading repetative files, and getting confused over some personal issues. So I think I'll toss in my personal version of how to install things using Windose, an SD card, and the file links scattered throughout that thread:
In summary, read the folllowing posts:
Original Thread (Post #1)
Post #14
Post #141
Wach this Youtube as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I403bagL9rw
Assuming you have a brand new microSD card, plop it into the cormer or your nook. Don't worry about formatting it, you'll be re-formating it again. Connect your Nook to your PC with the USB, and your PC will recognize two new drives:
MyNOOK, and whatever your new microSD card happens to be factory named.
Stage 1: Mounting the boot image
1. From Post #14, download the linked file "CWM_SD_flash_and_exe.zip"
2. Extract the zip and run "Win32DiskImager.exe"
3. Select the "cwm_sd_flashing_boot.img" and ensure that the Device drive is the correct one (like I: and not your C
**Reading through other threads, there are links (now dead) to other image files, and an appended "update.zip" file. Do not worry about these, as the packaged image is all you need.
4. Your miscroSD card will now be named "boot" and only have a size of about 70MB.
**Your nook will think your SD card is bad at this point. A Warning popup will say, "SD card format required - This memory card is unrecognized and needs to be formatted.
5. Ignore the message to format, and reboot your Nook. Either hold down the power key and power back on, or hold the power+N key.
6. The moment your nook powers back on, hold down the N key until you get a white screen with a cardboard box. This will bring up the boot menu
**You do not need your USB plugged in, despite other posts instructing you as such. As long as you hold down the N key within 3 seconds of it rebooting, you get a box on a white bachground that leads to the boot loader.
7. usign the volume buttons to scroll, select the "update.zip". Use "N" to select and tap the power button to back out of a menu.
After you've finished, you'll boot up with the option of going to "Home" or "ADW.Launcher"
That should be it!
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P.S. I have a brand new Nook Tablet with 1.4.1 preinstalled.
I've rerooted my NT a few times already in the last week, and I now think the best version is actually Albert's 4.5 found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
... at least until CM7 is ready.

**Solved** Thanks much!!
Thanks everyone for the help, I certainly appreciate it!!
I am about to try the process again. Just to confirm:
ZirbMonkey -
1st, I am assuming the recommended method you describe in your post is a more recent recommendation than the one in your sig (Albert's 4.5).
CWM_SD_flash_and_exe.zip is the same file name I have been using. I realize it may be a different version and will check it as I go through the process you detailed so well, but the version I used before didn't have an "update.zip" in it. Am I expecting that there will be an update.zip on the SD card after taking the steps you've detailed, is there already a file with that name on the NT, or something else? Also, am I browsing to an "update.zip" file on the sd card or taking the menu option that has "update.zip" in the name?
Maybe this will all become evident as I go thru the process but I'd like to understand as much as I can before I start so I don't screw up.
Again, thank you for your patience dealing with my lack of knowledge in this area.

If using Albertwertz 4.5 root Update Hidden settings to block OTA updates
I finished root too using Albertwertz's 4.5, very easy with video. If you used this be sure to update your hidden settings app from the market then block OTA updates. This app in the currently uploaded zip is earlier version and does not block OTAs. Check your software version in About Your Nook in settings after your root is complete. If it does not indicate that OTAs are blocked you need to do this by updating hidden settings app already installed with root by downloading the app update from the Android Market......then going in app to choose OTA updates block, otherwise a future update could kill your root! It does not roll it back to V 9.9.9, but stays V1.41 (with note below version number stating OTAs are blocked) when you are done.
There is a separate post by Albert (in dev thread...look for key word OTA updates) indicating he updated the hidden settings app (after uploading Root 4.5 zip). You also need to go into DEVELOPMENT option in updated Hidden Settings app and click on both USB debugging boxes. Don't forget to enable Unknown Sources too!
Geez really need to learn how to embed links in his site!
Thanks to Albert, Indirect and everyone else involved in root and bootloader crack!
L

prsa01 said:
**Solved** Thanks much!!
Thanks everyone for the help, I certainly appreciate it!!
I am about to try the process again. Just to confirm:
ZirbMonkey -
1st, I am assuming the recommended method you describe in your post is a more recent recommendation than the one in your sig (Albert's 4.5).
CWM_SD_flash_and_exe.zip is the same file name I have been using. I realize it may be a different version and will check it as I go through the process you detailed so well, but the version I used before didn't have an "update.zip" in it. Am I expecting that there will be an update.zip on the SD card after taking the steps you've detailed, is there already a file with that name on the NT, or something else? Also, am I browsing to an "update.zip" file on the sd card or taking the menu option that has "update.zip" in the name?
Maybe this will all become evident as I go thru the process but I'd like to understand as much as I can before I start so I don't screw up.
Again, thank you for your patience dealing with my lack of knowledge in this area.
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The "update.zip" is for the original method, where there was a file with that name in the base directory of the flashed card. I believe this is/was the second option on the rooting menu.
But the new (4.5) method uses a different zip file, so you have to "update from a .zip" (first menu option?) and select the zip that shows up at the bottom of the next menu. Sorry, but I'm working from memory as I reset my memory card after I flash it to get full use of it back again.

It's still not working for me - Like prsa01, I found no such "update.zip" file, so I tried "CWM_SD_flash_and_exe.zip" (the only "zip" file on the SDcard).
It starts to install, then aborts:
Code:
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Installing update...
Installation aborted.
what am I doing wrong?
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I couldn't get this method to work (is it because I didn't enable debugging first? Enabling debuggin is not mentioned in the instructions. CWM loads, but I get an "Installing update... Installation aborted." message - see prev post)
This method says you have to enable USB debugging first, but the instructions for doing so don't work for me. You're supposed to download and install an apk, then click "settings" when you see the "install blocked" message - trouble is, my installs are NOT blocked - not since the first time I sideloaded an app. Is there another way to get to the hidden settings menu? or do I need to do a factory reset and start over?

KyleK...
Perhaps you have this taken care of this issue by now. I just rooted my Nook and used the Hidden Settings apk I think you are referring too. I see that others on the forum have reference the Play Store as the source for the apk.
here is the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brianf21.nthiddensettings&hl=en
Once installed you can use your file manager to locate the app. Going into settings/development where you find the selectable states for USB debugging (on) and Auto Mount (off).
There are notes in the forum about keeping track of these settings to make sure they stay set. I noticed before I rooted the setting would change on every re-start.
In my case I use ES explorer to look at my files. I launch it from the search tab, the Hidden Settings app icon is sitting on my home directory. Every time I use this application it says it will re-install and retain all previous data. You may find that a bit odd.

Root request for Verizon Ellipsis 8 Tablet

Hello XDA, I'm new here and I haven't found any info regarding root on the aforementioned tablet. I know its only been out a short while and isn't anything to shake a stick at, however I believe that the ability to root and install custom ROMs on this device would allow it to run much smoother even with the low grade hardware.
Anyhow if anyone is willing to look into rooting I would be appreciative. I did find something where a fella tried kingoroot, towelroot, and one other method which apparently worked on the ellipsis 7, but had no success. If anyone else is in favor reply and let's get some attention. Thanks XDA.

stealth_sli said:
Hello XDA, I'm new here and I haven't found any info regarding root on the aforementioned tablet. I know its only been out a short while and isn't anything to shake a stick at, however I believe that the ability to root and install custom ROMs on this device would allow it to run much smoother even with the low grade hardware.
Anyhow if anyone is willing to look into rooting I would be appreciative. I did find something where a fella tried kingoroot, towelroot, and one other method which apparently worked on the ellipsis 7, but had no success. If anyone else is in favor reply and let's get some attention. Thanks XDA.
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It's a real shame that no one's done this. There are guys, here, that write whole ROMs for tablets they don't even own and no one's taken a shot at a root. Not being a coder, i can't but there are so many talented guys here i'm just really surprised someone didn't lean over, fart, and put out a root. lol.

Just no real demand for it for these tablets.
Verizon is charging more for these than what you would pay for a MUCH better tablet like a Nexus 7, or Gpad 8.3, etc...
The only people that are "buying" them, are the ones that VZW is giving away for free with you upgrade your phone and add the tablet to your data plan for $10 a month. If not for them giving them away for free, nobody would have one.

I'm stuck with a nexus 8 and require root.
the latest update was forced and now hundreds of my apps will not work due to not being allowed to change sd card files. Root for me is not cool or optional.

zerothis said:
I'm stuck with a nexus 8 and require root.
the latest update was forced and now hundreds of my apps will not work due to not being allowed to change sd card files. Root for me is not cool or optional.
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Hundreds of apps don't work with the small and incremental update? Like which ones?
For 1, I cannot imagine even having hundreds of apps... But the update was a small one, nothing significant, and I don't see why they would have stopped working?

Disabling writing to the SD is hardly incremental!
can't add new accounts
about half my created files on SD were deleted (save games, notes, configurations)
since existing files on SD cannot be changed, and new SD files cannot be created, the following apps will not function as I need them too, or fail to do anything:
roguelike classics
angband variants
angband
humble bundle app
es file manager
astro file manager
retro arch
and bible
hacker's keyboard
teamviewer for remote
teamviewer quicksupport
android VNC
scummvm
gdosbox
unipatcher
andftp
nesemu
snes9x
gbaemu
androgens
freeciv
That's just a few of the top of my head. Since some of those are emus, each adds hundreds more games and software that will not work (I own over 8000).

zerothis said:
Disabling writing to the SD is hardly incremental!
can't add new accounts
about half my created files on SD were deleted (save games, notes, configurations)
since existing files on SD cannot be changed, and new SD files cannot be created, the following apps will not function as I need them too, or fail to do anything:
roguelike classics
angband variants
angband
humble bundle app
es file manager
astro file manager
retro arch
and bible
hacker's keyboard
teamviewer for remote
teamviewer quicksupport
android VNC
scummvm
gdosbox
unipatcher
andftp
nesemu
snes9x
gbaemu
androgens
freeciv
That's just a few of the top of my head. Since some of those are emus, each adds hundreds more games and software that will not work (I own over 8000).
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What format is your SD card formatted in? Maybe something changed with the update... like the Shield Tablet cannot write to the SD card if it is over 32GB and formatted with exFAT... it needs to be in NTFS for anything higher than 32GB...
Maybe the same case here? Try copying the files to your PC, format the SD card with your PC(and specify NTFS and defaults for everything else), not the tablet because the tablet will format in exFAT even if it is larger than 32GB...
Try that and see if it works.

My Ellipsis 8 is on the latest update, and I can read and write to the SD card just fine... Not sure what the issues are that you are having.
What size SD card do you have?

I have this tab, and rooted. It took me a while to get the right combination though. Go here (it's in Chinese): http://www.kingroot.net and click on the download button with the Android icon to download the kingroot apk. Find a way to install the downloaded apk to your tab. You are rooted. I didn't like the kinguser root manager so I used this Replace_Kingroot_With_SuperSU.zip to change to SuperSU for root managing. The zip is attached. Just unzip, copy the "mrw" folder to your tab and use adb as root (either terminal emulator or adb shell from your computer) to run this command:
sh /sdcard/mrw/root.sh
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. Ignore the errors that may appear. After a while SuperSU will open and ask you to update binary. Do so and reboot. you are still rooted, but with SuperSU as root manager.
Now if only there were any custom ROMs...

immortalsoule said:
It's a real shame that no one's done this. There are guys, here, that write whole ROMs for tablets they don't even own and no one's taken a shot at a root. Not being a coder, i can't but there are so many talented guys here i'm just really surprised someone didn't lean over, fart, and put out a root. lol.
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Rooted using Kingroot just download and open click root let it do its thing if it fails select try again.... After root is established install suoerSUme let it do its thing.. Viola Root

MX10 Android TV Box - SuperSU Issue

I recently purchased an MX10 Android TV Box running Android 7.1.2
It is supposed to be rooted and SuperSU came installed but when you run it, it reports that the SuperSU binary is not installed and SuperSU cannot install it. I've done a full factory reset but the image comes back broken like that.
I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file but I cannot get this box into recovery mode. Everything I've found says to stick a toothpick in the AV hole and power up the box. When I do that, the MX10 logo shows but then it pops up with "erasing" and then reboots. All that does is a full factory reset.
If I run Root Checker, it says I don't have root.
Anyone have any experience with this issue and this box? If I can't get into recovery mode then I can't fix SuperSU and/or update the firmware to one where I'm rooted.
The box otherwise seems to work ok with the exception that I cannot set a live wallpaper. I'm just not rooted.
Thanks for any help!
-TimG

TimothyGaray said:
I recently purchased an MX10 Android TV Box running Android 7.1.2
It is supposed to be rooted and SuperSU came installed but when you run it, it reports that the SuperSU binary is not installed and SuperSU cannot install it. I've done a full factory reset but the image comes back broken like that.
I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file but I cannot get this box into recovery mode. Everything I've found says to stick a toothpick in the AV hole and power up the box. When I do that, the MX10 logo shows but then it pops up with "erasing" and then reboots. All that does is a full factory reset.
If I run Root Checker, it says I don't have root.
Anyone have any experience with this issue and this box? If I can't get into recovery mode then I can't fix SuperSU and/or update the firmware to one where I'm rooted.
The box otherwise seems to work ok with the exception that I cannot set a live wallpaper. I'm just not rooted.
Thanks for any help!
-TimG
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Yeah i just got mine yesterday and im having the same issue. I get a Root user account error with Root Checker Pro. Ive tried clearing data in the SU app but nothing. There is an update for SU in the Play Store but i read on Freaktab where someone said not to update SU app or it will give you a bootloop. I havent updated it yet cuz i wanted to do some more investigating but i really dont see the harm in just updating the app itself. I know updating the su binary will result in a bootloop because i updated the binary on my T95Z and got the bootloop. Ive been googling all day trying to find a TWRP.img file for the MX10 but have found nothing yet. Ive also been looking for a root method for this box as well but not sure what i should use. It would be nice if these each box had it own sub forum like the phones have.. would make life so much easier. lol
If you figure anything out i would appreciate if you would pass that info on.. will do likewise.

htxp://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/rockchip-based-tv-players/freaktabs-tools-utility-collection/656634-twrp-recovery-for-rockchip-devices
I'm in the same boat. Recieved my mx10 a week ago. Tried the tooth pick in the av port. Shows on screen 'erasing' and eventually factory defaults. No root

Android 7.01 said:
htxp://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/rockchip-based-tv-players/freaktabs-tools-utility-collection/656634-twrp-recovery-for-rockchip-devices
I'm in the same boat. Recieved my mx10 a week ago. Tried the tooth pick in the av port. Shows on screen 'erasing' and eventually factory defaults. No root
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Have you updated the SU app? Not the su binary but the app from play store itself?

Hi, actually I was looking to root the MX10 but for a simple reason:
all I want to to is to get a shutdown or power off button, but this seems missing on the MX10 .. !!! First time I see a box without the shutdown option.
I looked up for apps providing power off button but they all require root access and so don’t work on the out-of-the-box MX10.
Anyone has same need and a solution?

Hi, I received my MX10, a few days ago and have the same problem (SuperSU issue).
I purchased it from GeekBuying, and posted on their blog, for the latest firmware update I could find: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/
Really want to root it, so I can edit the keyboard/remote control files to map keys on the H18+ remote I bought at the same time as the MX10.
I haven't tried flashing different firmware (or booting into recovery). If/when I receive a reply to my post on the GeekBuying blog, I'll post here - but no idea if they'll reply.

supergiulio said:
Hi, actually I was looking to root the MX10 but for a simple reason:
all I want to to is to get a shutdown or power off button, but this seems missing on the MX10 .. !!! First time I see a box without the shutdown option.
I looked up for apps providing power off button but they all require root access and so don’t work on the out-of-the-box MX10.
Anyone has same need and a solution?
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Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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Seems really odd that it would come with Super SU installed, and not be rooted. Then again, it also advertises (on GeekBuying.com - in case anyone purchased elsewhere) that it comes with Kodi pre-installed, and mine didn't.
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TimothyGaray said:
...I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file...-TimG
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Whereabouts did you get the firmware? Was it this one MX10_RK3328_KODI18.0_20171208.img ? Listed on this GeekBuying blog entry: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/

RADiuMOz said:
Seems really odd that it would come with Super SU installed, and not be rooted. Then again, it also advertises (on GeekBuying.com - in case anyone purchased elsewhere) that it comes with Kodi pre-installed, and mine didn't.
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Whereabouts did you get the firmware? Was it this one MX10_RK3328_KODI18.0_20171208.img ? Listed on this GeekBuying blog entry: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/
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Yeah i agree.. odd it ships with su installed but no root. Theres some fw's on this page.... ive downloaded just in case i ever need it... dont see why i would since there is no root though. lol
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...3328-4-32gb-tv-box-2-4ghz-wifi-fast-lan/page2

Hi mate,
Try my guide in the Media TV Box Amlogic forum. The recovery image is for TWRP. But you could try Philz or others. Worked on S912 and S905 so far fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
No root? I suggest you follow backup instructions, take 3 backups - all paritions, boot only, recovery only.
Then you can extract the boot image from your backup and use that with Magisk to root your system. After Magisk modifies your boot image, reboot, and flash the modified package via TWRP bootable (see topic)
If you have anything you wish to contribute, please feel free to post anything you have learnt that you feel will help others.
Cheers mate!

Thanks for the tip
Thanks Freak69! It was so easy ... but still it would be good to root the MX10
freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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flipmode_11 said:
Hi mate,
Try my guide in the Media TV Box Amlogic forum. The recovery image is for TWRP. But you could try Philz or others. Worked on S912 and S905 so far fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
No root? I suggest you follow backup instructions, take 3 backups - all paritions, boot only, recovery only.
Then you can extract the boot image from your backup and use that with Magisk to root your system. After Magisk modifies your boot image, reboot, and flash the modified package via TWRP bootable (see topic)
If you have anything you wish to contribute, please feel free to post anything you have learnt that you feel will help others.
Cheers mate!
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Hey @flipmode_11 - which TWRP image should we use, please? In your post, you state to, "Download the X96 Media Player TWRP Recovery image...or a different device". As the X96 is S905X (from a quick Google - don't shoot me if I'm wrong!) and the MX10 is RK3328, the TWRP image for the X96 wouldn't work, would it? I took a look at the list of devices and can't find a matching device.
Cheers,
Richard.
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Somethng that REALLY annoys me about the MX10, is that I can't get it to write to my external USB drive (NTFS). It worked just fine - out of the box - on my old MXIII-G, but the MX10 just won't write to it (Total Commander and an FTP server app I usually use in order to access it from my LAN). Is this because of some weird driver, or because of root (permissions... I checked under apps and it has access to storage - but of course it does, because it can read the drive)?
I'm probably not too fussed about rooting this thing, if I can just get external drives working with it.
I did read about Android not supporting NTFS, for write - but my old MXIII-G did, so I'm assuming this should, too. The only other thing I can think of, is that the MXIII-G had something in the firmware for writing to NTFS.
I can't see why there would be external USB drive support, but you can't write to it - I mean, it's a TV box, surely there are some other people out there who copy movies, etc. to an external drive on the box, to watch?

G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
RADiuMOz said:
Hey @flipmode_11 - which TWRP image should we use, please? In your post, you state to, "Download the X96 Media Player TWRP Recovery image...or a different device". As the X96 is S905X (from a quick Google - don't shoot me if I'm wrong!) and the MX10 is RK3328, the TWRP image for the X96 wouldn't work, would it? I took a look at the list of devices and can't find a matching device.
Cheers,
Richard.
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Somethng that REALLY annoys me about the MX10, is that I can't get it to write to my external USB drive (NTFS). It worked just fine on my old MXIII-G, but the MX10 just won't write to it (Total Commander and an FTP server app I usually use in order to access it from my LAN). Is this because of some weird driver, or because of root (permissions... I checked under apps and it has access to storage - but of course it does, because it can read the drive)?
I'm probably not too fussed about rooting this thing, if I can just get external drives working with it.
I did read about Android not supporting NTFS, for write - but my old MXIII-G did, so I'm assuming this should, too. The only other thing I can think of, is that the MXIII-G had something in the firmware for writing to NTFS.
I can't see why there would be external USB drive support, but you can't write to it - I mean, it's a TV box, surely there are some other people out there who copy movies, etc. to an external drive on the box, to watch?
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flipmode_11 said:
Did you see my questions?
Where did you source your device from? Ebay? Online? Retail?
What software and steps above did you try?
Did you try the Paragon app with Total Commander?
Did you try downloading the recovery.img linked in the Media TV Box category? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75644464
Using Magisk is even more important these days as developers attempt to detect SU/Root, plus Magisk does not make modifications to your /System partition which makes life MUCH easier upgrading / troubleshooting / debugging and allows you to mask Root/SuperUser to then use all apps (Spotify, Play, Netflix, Stan, et al.)
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I got my box from Amazon. Ive not tried anything with it yet. I dont use Total Commander.. that was another guy saying something about it and wanting to be able to write to external sd... i could care less for that. I want root for adaway and a few other things. Im using Blockada right now to block ads but i cant use it and Expressvpn at the same time.. so my choices are either block ads or run vpn to be anonymous.. cant do both because you cant run two vpns at the same time in android and blockada's vpn is not the same kind of vpn.
Ok i just read your thread.. i will give it a try sometime this weekend maybe.
Ya know the weird thing is is that DevCheck says i have root and busybox installed. Su app is there but say su binaries arent installed. I dont get why this box is shipped like this. lol

You are funny! I was talking to @RADiuMOz - I had quoted him.
No wonder your reply made no sense. Then my reply made no sense.
Please see my topic on AMLogic devices "AMLogic S905 S912 FAQ ✰ Fix Root, Switch SU, Backup/Restore etc ✩ Media Player TV Box" here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
I would suggest you follow the steps to Backup first as it does not make any changes to your system.
Then follow steps to Root (download 3 files) and proceed with the FAQ I have written on how to root and which of the 3 methods suit you (probably the one similar to Part 1 of the backup, plus flashing the ZIP.
I had similar corrupt Root issue where SU and SUD were present, but didn't appear to have permissions. Some apps reported Root OK, and others No Root.
Anyway, let me know how you go. I have documented how to un-root / clean-up and then to re-root your system (i.e. Corrupt Root). Reply there.
Cheers!
p.s. May I suggest you check out AdGuard instead of AdAway? It lets you subscribe to block lists, plus you can set-up DUAL VPN's with it (read their KB/FAQ's). AdGuard's menu's allows you to accomodate both being able to VPN and run adblocking at the same time - ROOT Free. So you can probably ignore everything I have even said! LOL (AdGuard > Left Menu > Settings > Proxy Settings)
VyprVPN is far better and I suggest you try them when they have a promo. You can enable an option to block malicious servers, etc. But no way of managing this and adding adverts. Anyway, I switched and tried various VPN providers and found VyprVPN far better, plus offer a higher level of OpenVPN encryption which is not blocked or detected by 3rd parties called "Chameleon".
freak69ize said:
I got my box from Amazon. I want root for AdAway and a few other things. Im using Blockada right now to block ads but i cant use it and ExpressVPN at the same time.. so my choices are either block ads or run vpn to be anonymous.. cant do both because you cant run two vpns at the same time in android and blockada's vpn is not the same kind of vpn.
Ok i just read your thread.. i will give it a try sometime this weekend maybe.
Ya know the weird thing is is that DevCheck says i have root and busybox installed. Su app is there but say su binaries arent installed. I dont get why this box is shipped like this. lol
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EXPERIMENT: Has anyone tried an OTG adapter in the USB-C slot for a Galaxy S8? Then connect a small USB drive with a recovery.img only, formatted in FAT32? You could even try placing the recovery.img on your Micro SD inside your phone...? Perhaps while holding down menu + up or menu + down, switch on your phone, and it might read the recovery.img on the external memory and boot into that?
*Anyway*, try the same thing in your MX10 and report back add success. Use a compatible S905 TWRP recovery.img (see my type here with download attached and tested with S905x Devices.
Hmm... So many ideas... so many things I have not tried!
freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart. Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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flipmode_11 said:
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
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First up - sorry mate - I actually thought I'd replied to your post, but clearly either didn't submit it, or just dreamed the whole thing.
I have to wait for free time at the weekends (I have kids), but I'll go back to your topic and give that a go.
As for NTFS, etc. I ended up buying a Synology DS218J NAS box as I want my daughter to be able to back up her MacBook to it, as well as probably back up some of my stuff to it as well - and of course then use for the MX10. I bought it from GeekBuying, and they're not that particularly helpful. Not intentionally unhelpful, though.
My MXIII-G was great for just working straight out of the box, with the external NTFS drive (exact same drive).
So now, as for rooting, my only reason will be so I can remap some of the keys on my remote - but don't absolutely have to do that. But I'll do backups anyway, so that I'm ready for if/when any firmware updates come out.
I'll certainly know to have a MUCH better look round, before buying my next Android TV box, though - that's for sure. I did a quick search, but didn't find anything on a user level - but also didn't search XDA: just did a regular Google search.
Thanks for your detailed reply, as I know it takes time and thought on your part - it's much appreciated. As soon as I've got something to report, I'll post in the same thread, so other people can perhaps benefit from my findings.
Cheers,
Richard.
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flipmode_11 said:
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
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Apologies! I thought I'd replied, here, but clearly didn't submit it, or just dreamed I had. I've replied to your PM, but also for anyone/everyone else's benefit (and in brief), I bought my MX10 from GeekBuying. I just bought a NAS box, so I'm going to use that instead of trying to get NTFS working, although the people at GeekBuying said, "Our factory tests show that the MX10 can read and write ntfs hard drives. So please try again." I'd be interested to hear whether anyone else is able to write to NTFS.
I'm going to go back to your topic, and give that a go - and will then post back here, to let everyone know (hopefully might benefit someone).
Cheers,
Richard.

i have mx10 and it suddenly stuck in start logo when i open,i dont have any idea please help.
i try to factory reset using toothpick and hit the factory reset no command coming out to delete all files and quick return to booth the system.
whwn i try to reboot again stuck in start logo i'll wait for 30 min but still just rounding the startup logo.Please help me...

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