[Q] Z Ultra GPE: Safely reverting from 5.0 OTA to KitKat - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Ok Here's the deal.
Google really screwed up Android 5.0. Its buggy as heck to the point where my phone is not usable. Nothing but crashes left and right. Its ridiculous.
Its so bad I am tempted to get an iPhone. My phone is totally useless. (Example: phone dialer crashes EVERY SINGLE TIME I GET AN INCOMING CALL so I literally cannot receive incoming calls)
I did try doing a hard reset and re-installing everything. That didn't help much.
Also, I never rooted, or unlocked the boot loader or anything. I'm assuming its possible to go back to 4.4.x but I know certain phone / firmware combinations put blocks on that sort of thing that may brick the device.
YES I DID SEARCH THE FORUMS but found nothing that pertains to this specific question.
I do NOT want some custom rom solution. I want the bits as released by Google / Sony for 4.4x
Can someone please help guide me to go back?

shassouneh said:
Ok Here's the deal.
Google really screwed up Android 5.0. Its buggy as heck to the point where my phone is not usable. Nothing but crashes left and right. Its ridiculous.
Its so bad I am tempted to get an iPhone. My phone is totally useless. (Example: phone dialer crashes EVERY SINGLE TIME I GET AN INCOMING CALL so I literally cannot receive incoming calls)
I did try doing a hard reset and re-installing everything. That didn't help much.
Also, I never rooted, or unlocked the boot loader or anything. I'm assuming its possible to go back to 4.4.x but I know certain phone / firmware combinations put blocks on that sort of thing that may brick the device.
YES I DID SEARCH THE FORUMS but found nothing that pertains to this specific question.
I do NOT want some custom rom solution. I want the bits as released by Google / Sony for 4.4x
Can someone please help guide me to go back?
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I suspect that you can't, or can't do so easily and keep full functionally of the camera.
The only way that I can think of is to
Root
Install custom recovery
Flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
This delete the DRM keys and break the camera. Unless one of the root exploits work on 5.0.x you cant back up the TA partition to save the full functionality of the camera.
My GPe is not too unstable and is rooted on an unlocked BL, although it does micro hang often. I would factory reset, wipe data and cache and then add back apps one by one and see if you can find what is making it unstable

blueether said:
I suspect that you can't, or can't do so easily and keep full functionally of the camera.
The only way that I can think of is to
Root
Install custom recovery
Flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
This delete the DRM keys and break the camera. Unless one of the root exploits work on 5.0.x you cant back up the TA partition to save the full functionality of the camera.
My GPe is not too unstable and is rooted on an unlocked BL, although it does micro hang often. I would factory reset, wipe data and cache and then add back apps one by one and see if you can find what is making it unstable
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Thanx for the input. Much appreciated.
I'd rather not root if at all possible. Android as an OS is buggy as heck, and in my experience rooting only makes things worse.
I did try doing a "Factory reset", although I never wiped data / cache.
The level of granularity required to debug this issue seems ridiculous. The "core scenario" of me upgrading from 4.4.x to 5.0 OTA "should" work without all these issues. google really blew it here.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Linux (Android "is" a Linux after all) is a University student hack project blown way out of proportion.
I'd really hate to go back to 2003 and get an iPhone 6+

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[Q] Updated my ZTE Supreme and now the phone won't work?

So yesterday my phone popped up with an update. I installed it not thinking anything of it. Well now my ZTE Supreme won't work. It turns on but it will not connect to the Virgin Mobile Service and I cannot get the camera to work and it runs slow and when I go to click on an app the phone basically freezes. What are my options?
I have a ZTE Supreme running Jelly Bean 4.1.2
kevinnnn said:
So yesterday my phone popped up with an update. I installed it not thinking anything of it. Well now my ZTE Supreme won't work. It turns on but it will not connect to the Virgin Mobile Service and I cannot get the camera to work and it runs slow and when I go to click on an app the phone basically freezes. What are my options?
I have a ZTE Supreme running Jelly Bean 4.1.2
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Was your phone rooted and / or modified before the update? Is it an official Virgin phone or flashed from another service? Please share the build version of the software update. But basically your 3 options are to factory reset, reload original system (after reset), or installing a custom recovery and custom rom.
es0tericcha0s said:
Was your phone rooted and / or modified before the update? Is it an official Virgin phone or flashed from another service? Please share the build version of the software update. But basically your 3 options are to factory reset, reload original system (after reset), or installing a custom recovery and custom rom.
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I hadn't done any rooting to the device. Also I did a reset like 5 times already. Didn't help. (By that I mean I went into the setting and hit the reset button and it wiped everything.) That didn't work at all. Also this is an official ZTE Supreme I bought from their website about 6 months ago.
Where do I go to get the build version? I see baseband version which is N9810B01. Is that what you wanted?
I am getting really pissed thinking that my phone might be ****ed because of an update :/
Just thought of a possible issue with the data... See if you can update the profile and prl in the Settings. Most likely will be near the bottom above About Devices, or in About Devices. If that doesn't work, dialing this: ##rtn# is supposed to wipe user data and activation data so upon reboot should attempt to reconnect to Virgin services. As far as the camera, well, try clearing the caches of the camera and gallery in the Settings / Application Manager / All. As far as the slowness, I can't think of anything besides reloading the OS or a custom one. If the issue is in the /system then factory data resets don't touch that part.
Stock files found here: http://androidforums.com/vital-all-...supreme-system-boot-recovery.html#post6305878
Guide for flashing here: http://androidforums.com/vital-all-things-root/820524-guide-zte-vital-supreme-unbrick-guide.html
es0tericcha0s said:
Just thought of a possible issue with the data... See if you can update the profile and prl in the Settings. Most likely will be near the bottom above About Devices, or in About Devices. If that doesn't work, dialing this: ##rtn# is supposed to wipe user data and activation data so upon reboot should attempt to reconnect to Virgin services. As far as the camera, well, try clearing the caches of the camera and gallery in the Settings / Application Manager / All. As far as the slowness, I can't think of anything besides reloading the OS or a custom one. If the issue is in the /system then factory data resets don't touch that part.
When I tried to update PRL I got erorr 25606. Tried dialing that thing you suggested but I can't get the phone to come up. Just keeps freezing and then something pops up saying launch failed or something like that. Also, how do I reload OS or a custom? Sorry I can be a bit of a newb to this kinda stuff. I don't normally do anything to my phone other then the basics.
Oh I just got the phone to come up and I put in what you said and it says 'please input MSL... what is that?
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kevinnnn said:
es0tericcha0s said:
Just thought of a possible issue with the data... See if you can update the profile and prl in the Settings. Most likely will be near the bottom above About Devices, or in About Devices. If that doesn't work, dialing this: ##rtn# is supposed to wipe user data and activation data so upon reboot should attempt to reconnect to Virgin services. As far as the camera, well, try clearing the caches of the camera and gallery in the Settings / Application Manager / All. As far as the slowness, I can't think of anything besides reloading the OS or a custom one. If the issue is in the /system then factory data resets don't touch that part.
When I tried to update PRL I got erorr 25606. Tried dialing that thing you suggested but I can't get the phone to come up. Just keeps freezing and then something pops up saying launch failed or something like that. Also, how do I reload OS or a custom? Sorry I can be a bit of a newb to this kinda stuff. I don't normally do anything to my phone other then the basics.
Oh I just got the phone to come up and I put in what you said and it says 'please input MSL... what is that?
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You can try this app to get your MSL (also referred to as SPC depending on the situation) http://www.4shared.com/android/M8qqY_ge/MEID_Converter_052.html
But I provided links to both, the files you need, and the guide for how to install them. Did you not even bother to click on them?
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es0tericcha0s said:
kevinnnn said:
You can try this app to get your MSL (also referred to as SPC depending on the situation)
But I provided links to both, the files you need, and the guide for how to install them. Did you not even bother to click on them?
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I did click on them. But like I said I am a big newbie with this stuff. I have never dealt with any of this stuff before. Do I wanna download the system, boot, or recovery? (from the link you provided...) Also, I entered my phone into FTM mode but now what? I'm really sorry, maybe I'm just stupid.
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It'd be best if you read through the thread and then asked questions afterwards if there is something that isn't spelled out somewhere throughout the thread. They aren't THAT long and you could learn a lot. This stuff is not rocket science, but it does need patience and reading comprehension. The threads there are populated by n00bs and advanced users as well, so there's a good chance someone has had the same questions as you do. The people on those threads will also probably be more likely to help as it's not a very popular phone and not much support for. xda doesn't even have a specific forum for it. But, as you start, you'll need a working Windows (XP/Vista/7/8/8.1) computer or Linux, if you're more comfortable with that for some reason. A good data sync cord. The correct drivers. You probably only need the system.img, but won't hurt to do the others to get a complete full restore.
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[Q] Cannot Install new ROM, Status 7 error

So the other day my S3 gave up the ghost, and developed the hard-brick "QHSUSB_DLOAD" error. I have insurance so I was overnighted a new phone, and am sending the old one away. I believe this was related to a long-term power button issue I was having, perhaps a virus, or something. I had not changed anything to the ROM I was using since about October, and the issue just happened now in May.
At any rate, the new S3 I received is an MJB version, Android 4.3, Knox and all that other good stuff. After several failed attempts, I found a method to root this phone and disable Knox. The Warranty Bit is already tripped, so clearly I'm not sending this phone back until it hard bricks as well. I am trying to install the StockMOD ROM that is very popular, however I am being plagued by problem after problem.
I was able to flash a version of CWM Recovery onto my phone, but it was too old and couldn't mount any of the folders. Using ROM Manager, I was able to flash an update to my Recovery, and now it mounts and views all folders properly. However, when I go to install the StockMOD ROM, I continuously get a Status 7 error, something about "expects 5 args, got 3." I wiped the data, cache, and Dalvik, but kept getting this error. So, I had to recover my backup of stock, which didn't go well either. Once my backup was installed, all of my apps kept crashing. Gapps, ROM Manager, everything kept giving me constant FC errors. I had to wipe my data, cache, and Dalvik again and go back to factory default, and reinitialize the phone. Luckily I haven't installed anything of importance on here yet.
A quick search through here states that I need to use TWRP as my Recovery. I've flashed TWRP several times, first using the 2.6... version and then the most recent 2.7.0.0 version, and neither of these will mount any of my folders. It just gives me a litany of errors trying to mount the various locations. I've done Fix Permissions and everything else, TWRP will just NOT mount anything. Other folks say I need the latest PhilZ Recovery. I've downloaded the latest PhilZ Touch 6 and flashed it via Odin. It is giving me the same errors as regular CWM, Status 7, "expecting 5 args, got 3."
I don't know what else to do. My S3 that ran Android 4.0 was so much easier. I had that thing rooted and running a TW based ROM with Nova launcher in about 30 minutes. This phone has been a disaster since I turned it on. I'm just trying to get a 4.3 TW based ROM. I like the Samsung Camera, Calendar, Clock, Messaging, and Contacts apps far better than AOSP versions. But I also want much more customization to my notification drawer toggles. Stock TW doesn't have the toggles I use frequently like the data toggle as well as the torch toggle.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because unlike a lot of folks out there, once I find a ROM I like, I stick with it. I'm not constantly updating, changing, or searching for the newest version of Android. There's nothing wrong with that, it just isn't my cup of tea. So does anyone know what I need to do? At this point, I'm about to just give up and use Nova over top of rooted stock TW and call it a day.
Thanks!
Have you tried to go back stock rom using Odin ? I think it might resolve your recovery problem
nosphor said:
Have you tried to go back stock rom using Odin ? I think it might resolve your recovery problem
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Everything is stock except the recovery. I'm using CWM 6.0.4.7 with PhilZ Touch 6. I'm still using the stock TW 4.3 ROM that shipped with the phone. The only exception is that I'm rooted now.
I suggest you to go back to a 4.1 official stock rom with odin to be sure to have no more issue.
This can help you : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/restore-to-stock-rom-galaxy-s3-i9300-t2187081
Also, don't forget to backup your apps with titanium backup and all your sms :good:
nosphor said:
I suggest you to go back to a 4.1 official stock rom with odin to be sure to have no more issue.
This can help you : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/restore-to-stock-rom-galaxy-s3-i9300-t2187081
Also, don't forget to backup your apps with titanium backup and all your sms :good:
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Unfortunately, I've heard that it is not possible to revert to anything prior to 4.3 once a phone comes factory installed with 4.3, due to all of the security enhancements and etc. My kernel, modem, and baseband are all factory stock 4.3 MJB. Everyone else on the boards, under various other topics, warn of immediate and sudden death to the phone if you attempt to install a baseband prior to 4.3 MJB.
I'm very surprised to hear that, because recently i've flash stock 4.3 rom and then go back to 4.1.2 to flash a 4.4 rom without any issue and i've got nothing for issues.
Maybe it depends on which country you are ( i'm from France ) ? For what i know , there is a VERY little chance that this downgrade cause dammage to your phone
nosphor said:
I'm very surprised to hear that, because recently i've flash stock 4.3 rom and then go back to 4.1.2 to flash a 4.4 rom without any issue and i've got nothing for issues.
Maybe it depends on which country you are ( i'm from France ) ? For what i know , there is a VERY little chance that this downgrade cause dammage to your phone
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I'm in the USA. The security features on the I747 US version are far different. I don't know how everyone else is succeeding. I am completely lost.
You are in the wrong forum, anything you try from here will hard brick your phone.
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Sorry to tell you that, but what you say is not completely true.
Yes, there is a lot of people that rush to give an answer to the question, but there is also people that really like to help people that are in trouble :good:
Please, don't take most of the case for a generality
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
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Yes, i've read this, i know that, that's why i talk about the difference between country, different phone model
My apologies. Thought this was the 747 board. Go ahead and lock this, I'll repost in the correct forum.
Tried TWRP?

[Q] Help with new to me Sensation 4G

Hello everyone,
I am a complete noob and hopefully you guys can help me out. I have tried to wrap my head around all the new android terms and my head is spinning. Anyways, I was given a HTC Sensation 4G Z710a on the Bell network. I registered on the htcdev to unlock the bootloader and following the steps, I fail to get the token. I have tried on two PC's and my friend tried on his MAC. My friend thinks the reason it fails is because the phones software is not up to date. Is it possible that it cannot get the token because the software is out of date? We tried to update the software and it fails. The problem looks like it is due to the installation of a clockworkmod. I have tried using the factory reset and the the cwm to do a factory reset and nothing has changed. Other than this, it looks like the phone has S-OFF and is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Messed_sensation said:
Hello everyone,
I am a complete noob and hopefully you guys can help me out. I have tried to wrap my head around all the new android terms and my head is spinning. Anyways, I was given a HTC Sensation 4G Z710a on the Bell network. I registered on the htcdev to unlock the bootloader and following the steps, I fail to get the token. I have tried on two PC's and my friend tried on his MAC. My friend thinks the reason it fails is because the phones software is not up to date. Is it possible that it cannot get the token because the software is out of date? We tried to update the software and it fails. The problem looks like it is due to the installation of a clockworkmod. I have tried using the factory reset and the the cwm to do a factory reset and nothing has changed. Other than this, it looks like the phone has S-OFF and is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Kind of hard for us to tell you if the issue is the software update, when you haven't told us which update it's on. However, since the phone has already been modded, and is S-Off, that means the bootloader is already unlocked so using the HTCdev website is not needed. You can just update via a custom rom since you already have CWM.
es0tericcha0s said:
Kind of hard for us to tell you if the issue is the software update, when you haven't told us which update it's on. However, since the phone has already been modded, and is S-Off, that means the bootloader is already unlocked so using the HTCdev website is not needed. You can just update via a custom rom since you already have CWM.
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Thank you for your reply with the good news. This is probably irrelevant now that you said i can update via a custom rom. Under software information: Android Version; 2.3.3, HTC Sense Version; 3.0, Software Number 1.35.666.1.
It looks like now I need to research how to update via a custom rom and which rom to get. (Update. I looked into flashing a ruu and my cid is SuperCID 11111111. As long as I find a ruu that is Pyramid TMOUS, it should be good?) I am exited to be getting rid of my junky iphone. Do you have any suggestions as to what rom to get??
Messed_sensation said:
Thank you for your reply with the good news. This is probably irrelevant now that you said i can update via a custom rom. Under software information: Android Version; 2.3.3, HTC Sense Version; 3.0, Software Number 1.35.666.1.
It looks like now I need to research how to update via a custom rom and which rom to get. (Update. I looked into flashing a ruu and my cid is SuperCID 11111111. As long as I find a ruu that is Pyramid TMOUS, it should be good?) I am exited to be getting rid of my junky iphone. Do you have any suggestions as to what rom to get??
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I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
es0tericcha0s said:
I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
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Thank you for all your help and suggestion:good:. I am now running the Android Revolution HD.
This is a huge change from my iphone 4.
es0tericcha0s said:
I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
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Here is another update, and I am not sure if you can help. I thought everything was fine with the install, but it seems like my mobile network is not working. I followed all the steps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 except I used Clockwork Mod instead of 4EXT Touch Recovery. I looked through all the related settings and even tried changing them, rebooting and seeing if it made any changes. I also even followed the steps a second time and got the same result.
Messed_sensation said:
Here is another update, and I am not sure if you can help. I thought everything was fine with the install, but it seems like my mobile network is not working. I followed all the steps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 except I used Clockwork Mod instead of 4EXT Touch Recovery. I looked through all the related settings and even tried changing them, rebooting and seeing if it made any changes. I also even followed the steps a second time and got the same result.
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Is it just data or are you unable to make calls and texts as well? If it's just data, then most likely it is an issue with the Bell APN needing set correctly. If you don't get a signal or any connection to the cell towers, then you might not have the right firmware or radio. Did you update to the last update HTC put out for it?
es0tericcha0s said:
Is it just data or are you unable to make calls and texts as well? If it's just data, then most likely it is an issue with the Bell APN needing set correctly. If you don't get a signal or any connection to the cell towers, then you might not have the right firmware or radio. Did you update to the last update HTC put out for it?
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:good:You are good! It was just my data that was not working, and you were right on the money. After reading your reply, I checked my APN settings and adjusted them accordingly to what my carrier states. It is working perfectly now. Thank you so very much for your help. Take care.
Messed_sensation said:
:good:You are good! It was just my data that was not working, and you were right on the money. After reading your reply, I checked my APN settings and adjusted them accordingly to what my carrier states. It is working perfectly now. Thank you so very much for your help. Take care.
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I do this kinda stuff for a living. Glad all is well. Enjoy your "new" phone. :victory:
es0tericcha0s said:
I do this kinda stuff for a living. Glad all is well. Enjoy your "new" phone. :victory:
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I have been getting around 12 hours out of my battery with not too much use on the phone. I am running the SebastionFM Kernel. I read that I will get better battery life on the Bricked Kernel. Can you tell me if that is the way to go? I am trying to dl the kernel to flash it, but I am not sure which file to download. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668. Also, when I flash the Kernel, Is it pretty straight forward or are there settings that I would need to choose.
Thanks again.
Messed_sensation said:
I have been getting around 12 hours out of my battery with not too much use on the phone. I am running the SebastionFM Kernel. I read that I will get better battery life on the Bricked Kernel. Can you tell me if that is the way to go? I am trying to dl the kernel to flash it, but I am not sure which file to download. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668. Also, when I flash the Kernel, Is it pretty straight forward or are there settings that I would need to choose.
Thanks again.
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Depends on which rom you are using... The developer of the kernel mentioned near the end of the thread that his kernels are a little outdated for the newer Sense roms that are out there, so you might need to proceed with caution. Whenever you are flashing kernels, you should both make sure you have things backed up somewhere safe (Google, your PC, etc) as well as make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing. It's typically recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache before installing new kernels (since you are S-Off, S-On users need a slightly different path to upgrade...). You might look into why your battery life is not as good as it could be in it's current configuration first before changing major components such as the kernel. Look into Greenify to hibernate apps while the screen is off and something like GSam Battery Monitor or Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to break down the battery stats and wakelocks as those typically cause the biggest loss of battery life.
es0tericcha0s said:
Depends on which rom you are using... The developer of the kernel mentioned near the end of the thread that his kernels are a little outdated for the newer Sense roms that are out there, so you might need to proceed with caution. Whenever you are flashing kernels, you should both make sure you have things backed up somewhere safe (Google, your PC, etc) as well as make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing. It's typically recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache before installing new kernels (since you are S-Off, S-On users need a slightly different path to upgrade...). You might look into why your battery life is not as good as it could be in it's current configuration first before changing major components such as the kernel. Look into Greenify to hibernate apps while the screen is off and something like GSam Battery Monitor or Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to break down the battery stats and wakelocks as those typically cause the biggest loss of battery life.
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I think it is my battery. I picked up an Anker and the phone is now at 20% after 21hrs. Is there a way to get Emoji to work on my phone? When people SMS me, on the lock screen they show up as a question mark in a box but when i go to read the text message there is nothing there.
Using a different keyboard will let you send Emojis, but not really sure about enabling the view from other people's messages off the top of my head, sorry. I recommend SwiftKey for a great keyboard replacement with lots of built in Emojis.

What is currently the most stable and most current Rom available for the DNA?

I currently have a lollipop rom version 5.1 (3.4.10-Nuk3rn3l) that has many quircks which make my DNA fairly unpleasant to use. I'd like to flash a build that is solidly reliable, even if it means downgrading.
What are my options? It is extremely daunting to wade through the endless posts of this development forum to find one that is stable.
What quirks are you having? Are you on the latest firmware and used the recommended recovery to flash? These HTC phones are very picky and can cause some undesired effects when flashing against recommendations of OP. I would assume you are running @santod040's GPE rom. His roms are pretty darn stable if installed correctly. If you did follow install procedure exactly as recommended and still have issues, try his nusense rom.
Yeah, I'd love to hear what instability issues("quirks") you might be having with my GPE port...I'm unaware of any.
Those who have issues and don't ask about them with logs or details, can't expect much.
You can always go back to a stock Kitkat Rom if the hard work of others isn't appreciated.
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Yeah, I'd love to hear what instability issues("quirks") you might be having with my GPE port...I'm unaware of any.
Those who have issues and don't ask about them with logs or details, can't expect much.
You can always go back to a stock Kitkat Rom if the hard work of others isn't appreciated.
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I appreciate all you do and it probably does have something to do with not having the most up to date software. I am experiencing a lot of little things that combine to be very frustrating in day to day use. In no particular order; I cannot send consecutive text messages without cycling airplane mode, the restart option when holding the power button has disappeared, every few days the phone will shut off and will be unable to be turned back on without plugging in a power cable (this has something to do with user input but I have yet to recognize the pattern that causes it), apps will frequently crash, the phone no longer automatically connects to wifi networks, and a few other things.
I don't know what info you would need, my kernel is 3.4.10-NuK3rn3l-dlx-GPE-Lollipop_v2.00 . Build number is LMY470.H6
I love that people are still developing for this phone, I just think a lot of this custom firmware business goes over my head.
Those issues sound like firmware outdated and some odd stuff that only an ruu can fix. Below is the most up to date ruu for this phone. Before you flash, be sure to back everything up to an external storage device (PC, USB otg, etc). After you ruu, flash the recommended recovery in the rom thread and then clean flash the rom (wipe data, cache, system). Do not restore the nandroid backup. It could be something software that is causing the app FCs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2935556
Edit: I know for a fact the Wi-Fi issue is because of outdated firmware, others might be wrong recovery, but to save the hassle, just ruu to be safe.
Do me a favor: Run "fastboot getvar all" and take a look at line three and six. I am having the exact same issues as you. My line 3 for baseband was version 1.02.01.0818, NOT the 1.02.01.0207 that the latest firmware thread stated it should be. My line 6 (version-main) was blank. After flashing the latest radio zip it now shows a 1.02.01.0207 for baseband and 4.09.605.1 for version-main. This isn't my main phone anymore so its not activated in a way that i can test it. However it may be a starting point for you. I'd be curious if you have the same radios that my phone did.

Question Root with TWRP or just patched boot.img???

HI, All
I have had Nord 2 three months now. First Nord 2 was in service 3 times. So I got new device. Now this new has been two times at service. I have rooted both with TWRP (denniz) and Magisk of course.
I was wondering if TWRP is causing all the problems or is it just that Nord 2 does not like to be rooted.
And now I am thinking not to root but root has its benefits, so I guess I'll root but which method, TWRP or not.
Have you had problems after rooting? If you have, have you used TWRP and Magisk or just Magisk, no TWRP??
It would be nice if you would share your comments.
Thank you
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
exis_tenz said:
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
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Hi and thank you for reply.
That was new to me but explains a lot. But also I remined that my 1st Nord2 got new motherboard (IMEI and S/N was different) and now my new Nord2 has new motherboard. So after replacing motherboard it should be as totally new. But still with 1st device I end up problems. I have not rooted my new Nord 2 because my intention was to find out if it is TWRP which is causing problems or is it the device - hardware vs OS after root rocess regardless TWRP or not.
Basically is Nord 2 working as "normal" devices after rooting or not.
To tell you the truth, I am fed up with this phone too
Hi jis251: we can shake hands. After the 4th (!) stockrom-flash by a OnePlus-servicecenter and still having strange behaviour (for example I was not able to set a fingerprint, the device-motor just kept shaking when I tried), they "decided" that my motherboard was broken. It was switched under warrantee and after that I messed up something and then a "regular" stock-flash didn't work either. You DO need to flash stock (@servicepoint or by yourself), then REBOOT into STOCK recovery, WIPE EVERYTHING, and flash stock again (with OnePlus-tool only they have).
The problem is that OnePlus (and their servicecenters) are NOT aware of this (and probably don't care). But once rooted with strange behaviour this is a must.
For now, fingers crossed, everything seems to work. I have TWRP 3.6 (Denniz) installed, Magisk 24.1, several modules (AFWall Boot AntiLeak, BuiltIn BusyBox, F-Droid privileged Extension, Magisk Bootloop Protector -not sure if this does anything, not tested-, Shamiko, Universal SafetyNet Fix and Zygisk LSPosed.
Also in LSPosed I have 4 modules activated: AFWall+, Disable FLAG_Seure, XPrivacyLua and GravityBox [R].
This setup works and passes SafetyNet without problem. Banking Apps work. The only thing I cannot get to work (keeps detecting root) is my Cupra App (for my car - same as Volkswagen App) as posted here: Cupra
The setup on my OnePlus 7 pro (A10) and Nord 2 5G (A11) - both stock roms - is the same. Both pass banking apps but the Volkswagen/Cupra app they do not. I can live with that as long as that is the only exception. It sucks, but privacy above all ;-)
after a week no broblem with my rooted nord 2 (twrp+ magisk canary) all working as well!
exis_tenz said:
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
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No way. I had my phone serviced at the same place and now I don't get OTA updates anymore and have to install them manually. My Bluetooth is also working less reliably. I had my suspicions but thanks for confirming it.
You DO need to flash stock (@servicepoint or by yourself), then REBOOT into STOCK recovery, WIPE EVERYTHING, and flash stock again (with OnePlus-tool only they have).
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Just to be clear: is it possible to do by myself? Or is their tool required in this step? But yeah I was really hoping flashing would be as straight forward as with my previous OnePlus phones
Kenaestic said:
No way. I had my phone serviced at the same place and now I don't get OTA updates anymore and have to install them manually. My Bluetooth is also working less reliably. I had my suspicions but thanks for confirming it.
Just to be clear: is it possible to do by myself? Or is their tool required in this step? But yeah I was really hoping flashing would be as straight forward as with my previous OnePlus phones
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Hi Kenaestic, so you are from The Netherlands as am I? Honestly, I don't know if you can do it yourself. Maybe with the tool from (I mean Pankspoo) you can put back all the partitions etc., get to some kind of "stock-state" and be able to wipe everything in stock recovery. But I am just not sure.
I am kind of "ready" with this phone. I am on version 17 (stock A11) and once rooted I decided to not take anymore OTA's. The phone is just way too unreliable. And it IS my daily driver for work, so I can't risk it. It freaks me out that I can't "normally" flash back a stock rom, an d I am too unexpierenced for ASB, commands, etc. I'm an user, not a programmer.
I got 5 (!) reflashes from The Phone Laband a new mainboard. Once, I got suspicious when a TWRP-folder was STILL THERE after a stock-re-flash. From that moment on, and all the problems with fingerprint and PIN-locks, that something just survives that factory flash (I always managed to mess things up by rooting).
Now the damn thing works (and really I still like it). I came from the OP7pro, but this device is just so much lighter and better in the hand (not top-heavy). It's snappy, it's fast. But in the meantime I will start working on my OnePlus 7 pro to get E/OS running and finally my goal is to de-google. Once that works, the OP Nord 2 will be sold and the OP7 pro will be my back-up phone.
The Nord 2 is good and I love it, but software is a failure. Never a MediaTek-device for me again.
exis_tenz said:
Hi Kenaestic, so you are from The Netherlands as am I? Honestly, I don't know if you can do it yourself. Maybe with the tool from (I mean Pankspoo) you can put back all the partitions etc., get to some kind of "stock-state" and be able to wipe everything in stock recovery. But I am just not sure.
I am kind of "ready" with this phone. I am on version 17 (stock A11) and once rooted I decided to not take anymore OTA's. The phone is just way too unreliable. And it IS my daily driver for work, so I can't risk it. It freaks me out that I can't "normally" flash back a stock rom, an d I am too unexpierenced for ASB, commands, etc. I'm an user, not a programmer.
I got 5 (!) reflashes from The Phone Laband a new mainboard. Once, I got suspicious when a TWRP-folder was STILL THERE after a stock-re-flash. From that moment on, and all the problems with fingerprint and PIN-locks, that something just survives that factory flash (I always managed to mess things up by rooting).
Now the damn thing works (and really I still like it). I came from the OP7pro, but this device is just so much lighter and better in the hand (not top-heavy). It's snappy, it's fast. But in the meantime I will start working on my OnePlus 7 pro to get E/OS running and finally my goal is to de-google. Once that works, the OP Nord 2 will be sold and the OP7 pro will be my back-up phone.
The Nord 2 is good and I love it, but software is a failure. Never a MediaTek-device for me again.
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Haha ja zeker So this is something I have noticed as well. I'm in the same boat as you. I'm not a programmer and I come from a device where flashing was way easier. But for some reason this phone has persistent data on it that can not be reset or wiped. Maybe it was intended as a security measure. When you flash TWRP you probably noticed you can not boot into it without a commandline on your computer. Otherwise it will completely ignore the volume down + power combination and go straight to booting the OS. So I'm guessing OnePlus made it harder to tamper with the recovery. But for rooting it's only confusing, gives me headaches but most importantly; when you accidentally remove the ADB server authentication you're screwed because there is no recovery to boot into. I'm really hoping the miracle workers in the modding community find a way to work around these things. Because I first just thought it's kinda janky because they used a few work arounds to get TWRP running as fast as possible when the phone came out. But now I just don't know anymore. Anyway, I have an appointment with ThePhoneLab tomorrow and I'll report back if it did anything. Cheers.
exis_tenz said:
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
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I agree to some point... When it comes to rooting and updating when rooted this Phone is a p.i.a. If kept stock it is not to bad... But you want root for a reason. I think it is because of the mediatek processor. But I am struggling with it too. I am on A16, with TWRP, not rooted. I want to go back to stock (locked bootloader), but I am having a hard time to understand how to do it. I would appreciate a step by step guide.... The ones on XDA so-far haven't helped me any further...
Ik zit dus in hetzelfde schuitje... (sorry for the Dutch) really curious if "The Phone lab" can fix it
The Phone Lab can only re-flash stock (not repair). You'll loose all data.

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