Hi,
I recently got a new Z Ultra GPe as a replacement to my old one. I had OS version 5.0.1 before but the replacement I received is 4.4 and tells me that my phone is up to date. I expected I would get updates but that doesn't seem to be the case. Does anyone know if the OTA updates are still around and if I should be getting them by the normal method (rather then having to manually sideload)? For my needs I'm ok with a the non-rooted stock experience so I don't really want to deviate from that (and I don't really want to void my warranty as I have had to rely on that already). Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
drew.eldeen said:
Hi,
I recently got a new Z Ultra GPe as a replacement to my old one. I had OS version 5.0.1 before but the replacement I received is 4.4 and tells me that my phone is up to date. I expected I would get updates but that doesn't seem to be the case. Does anyone know if the OTA updates are still around and if I should be getting them by the normal method (rather then having to manually sideload)? For my needs I'm ok with a the non-rooted stock experience so I don't really want to deviate from that (and I don't really want to void my warranty as I have had to rely on that already). Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I looks like the OTA was pulled (well no longer being pushed) just before Christmas. The 5.0.1 is a little buggy so I would stay on 4.4.4.
Also note that there is no safe way to revert to 4.4.x from 5.0.x unless you root on 4.4.4 and back up the TA.
blueether said:
I looks like the OTA was pulled (well no longer being pushed) just before Christmas. The 5.0.1 is a little buggy so I would stay on 4.4.4.
Also note that there is no safe way to revert to 4.4.x from 5.0.x unless you root on 4.4.4 and back up the TA.
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Thanks, but I have 4.4 and not 4.4.4. Version 4.4 is super buggy and basically not usable. 5.0.1 was very usable in my opinion. If I can get from 4.4 to 4.4.4 that would be a great place to start. If I remember correctly there were three updates to get from 4.4 to 4.4.4.
If the OTAs are pulled, then why are phones with 4.4 being released into the users hands? I'll have to talk to google support about this. Is anyone else in the same boat I am?
Is only the 4.4.2 OTA not being pushed, or are all Z Ultra GPe updates not being pushed?
Thanks.
drew.eldeen said:
Thanks, but I have 4.4 and not 4.4.4. Version 4.4 is super buggy and basically not usable. 5.0.1 was very usable in my opinion. If I can get from 4.4 to 4.4.4 that would be a great place to start. If I remember correctly there were three updates to get from 4.4 to 4.4.4.
If the OTAs are pulled, then why are phones with 4.4 being released into the users hands? I'll have to talk to google support about this. Is anyone else in the same boat I am?
Is only the 4.4.2 OTA not being pushed, or are all Z Ultra GPe updates not being pushed?
Thanks.
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I'm not sure what ones aren't being pushed any more, but they were all still being pushed just before christmass. You could put 4.4.2 on a SD card and flash that from recovery and see if the 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 OTAs arrive, if not they are archived in the GPe section and I have copies here as well.
Either way I would root 4.4.4 and do a TA backup, it will give you many more options if you ever need to roll back for any reason.
Bugs of note on 5 are:
memory leak
some wifi issues for some users
I have micro hangs (may well be from the memory leak)
OK. Thanks. I am going to do the process here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761698 (different method but same result) to get to 4.4.2 and see what happens.
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So my girlfriend has wants her S4 rooted. I have the S3 and its quite different as far as rooting goes. I am also on sprint whereas she is on verizon (although thats not such a big deal).
Anyways, what I would like to have clarified for me is this: She is currently unrooted with stock MK2. From what I have read you can only root and install compatible roms with safestrap. The main thing she wants is KitKat and possibly CM. Is there any way for her to get either of these. Also, would it be possible to revert back to stock and flash KitKat with the OTA from verizon when it is released?
Thanks for any help.
BioBot said:
So my girlfriend has wants her S4 rooted. I have the S3 and its quite different as far as rooting goes. I am also on sprint whereas she is on verizon (although thats not such a big deal).
Anyways, what I would like to have clarified for me is this: She is currently unrooted with stock MK2. From what I have read you can only root and install compatible roms with safestrap. The main thing she wants is KitKat and possibly CM. Is there any way for her to get either of these. Also, would it be possible to revert back to stock and flash KitKat with the OTA from verizon when it is released?
Thanks for any help.
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There's no way for her to get KitKat or CM or anything AOSP. Hopefully the next OTA will have an exploit, but there hasn't been a cracked bootloader since the first version of firmware on the initial releases. Realistically, never going to happen.
I had a bad experience with Verizon's OTA to 4.4.2, and they ultimately replaced my phones - with JB4.3.
So I immediately rooted, and have NOT updated to 4.4.X. I want to make certain there is a decent method to get there.
I just spent a half hour googling around, and I am more confused than when I started.
It looks like there are a blue million custom ROMs based on 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, but I can't really find a definitive answer to which one works without a lot of "may still have bugs" caveats.
I keep coming back to towelroot, but it looks like it supports S4 more by accident than by design. That makes me nervous.
So - and forgive me if I am just too dense to find a clear answer that may already exist - Can I, and more importantly HOW can I, update to 4.4.3 or higher?
Is there something I am missing, or does 4.4.3 not exist yet for my phone?
4.4.3 Touchwiz doesn't exist yet. 4.4.2 (NC5 build for our device) is the latest.
snurfle said:
I had a bad experience with Verizon's OTA to 4.4.2, and they ultimately replaced my phones - with JB4.3.
So I immediately rooted, and have NOT updated to 4.4.X. I want to make certain there is a decent method to get there.
I just spent a half hour googling around, and I am more confused than when I started.
It looks like there are a blue million custom ROMs based on 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, but I can't really find a definitive answer to which one works without a lot of "may still have bugs" caveats.
I keep coming back to towelroot, but it looks like it supports S4 more by accident than by design. That makes me nervous.
So - and forgive me if I am just too dense to find a clear answer that may already exist - Can I, and more importantly HOW can I, update to 4.4.3 or higher?
Is there something I am missing, or does 4.4.3 not exist yet for my phone?
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Verizon has now rolled out Lollipop for the GS4 phones; my wife's installed the other day and seems to be OK so far, other than a few bluetooth hiccups.
I still have 2 rooted GS4 phones, both at JB4.3, MK2.
And I am still confused by all of the posts - there seems to be a method to root (NOT on XDA) but it fails because it seems to be ONLY for and NK4.
So, sorry for the repeat question, but is there a way to get to (rooted) Lollipop on my phones?
Thank you.
snurfle said:
Verizon has now rolled out Lollipop for the GS4 phones; my wife's installed the other day and seems to be OK so far, other than a few bluetooth hiccups.
I still have 2 rooted GS4 phones, both at JB4.3, MK2.
And I am still confused by all of the posts - there seems to be a method to root (NOT on XDA) but it fails because it seems to be ONLY for and NK4.
So, sorry for the repeat question, but is there a way to get to (rooted) Lollipop on my phones?
Thank you.
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Sorry for the false alarm, but how did you end up upgrading to Lollipop from MK2? Funny enough, my wife's phone is at MK2 as well, but anytime I try to take the OTA for L, it fails during flash and reboots.
benny_t said:
Sorry for the false alarm, but how did you end up upgrading to Lollipop from MK2? Funny enough, my wife's phone is at MK2 as well, but anytime I try to take the OTA for L, it fails during flash and reboots.
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My wife's phone (not rooted, came with KitKat already installed) updated OTA.
When my 2 JellyBean phones updated to KitKat, they had serious connectivity and battery issues; Verizon replaced them with (as luck would have it) a pair of JellyBean phones. I rooted both of them and stopped accepting OTA updates from Verizon and Samsung altogether.
So, I'm still at JellyBean, but would really like to update to Lollipop but retain root.
rpdayton said:
My wife's phone (not rooted, came with KitKat already installed) updated OTA.
When my 2 JellyBean phones updated to KitKat, they had serious connectivity and battery issues; Verizon replaced them with (as luck would have it) a pair of JellyBean phones. I rooted both of them and stopped accepting OTA updates from Verizon and Samsung altogether.
So, I'm still at JellyBean, but would really like to update to Lollipop but retain root.
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you're not gonna be able to downgrade to jellybean through this method (you can downgrade to NC5 Kitkat, 4.4.2 though), but here's a rooted OC1 lollipop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i545oc1-5-0-1-keeproot-t3096558
My battered S4 is on its last legs, so I'll probably replace it with an S5. TMo lists it as coming with 4.4.2, but has an update to 5.0 available. So two questions: have you guys found any real advantages to using Lollipop? And if I gave it a go & liked KK better, can I revert back? Thanks!
I am sticking with KK for only 1 reason is that i am using "Safe Areas" app that its only work KK or 5.1 since 5.0 has a bug that it cant work well with it.
To revert from Lollipop to KK if i dislike it, yup gotta to have custom recovery/rooted and i dont update bootloader to OB1 (lollipop of an official firmware) its still on KK. I think when ya update bootloader to OB1 become to non-revert to KK.
Thank you, sir. It's good to know I can try both without having to commit to either one, at least initially.
I can't seem to get a clear answer searching the forums... I've been on stock, unrooted 4.4.2 for a while now and all is working fine. The OTA update (for 5.0) is sitting on my phone and I just keep delaying the install. I've been tempted to get one of the new ANDROID AUTO radios and in order to do so, I'll need to upgrade to Lollipop... But I keep reading about bad experiences with the tmobile 5.0 variant.
Anyone on tmobile stock 5.0 happy? Is everything working? Battery life good? Wifi not dropping?
For that matter, anyone on stock 5.1.1 happy? Does mhl still work?
I'm not super interested in rooting (I will if I have to) or running custom roms (I really need wifi-calling) -- just worried the stock OTA experience is borked.
Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
BluepointVance said:
I can't seem to get a clear answer searching the forums... I've been on stock, unrooted 4.4.2 for a while now and all is working fine. The OTA update (for 5.0) is sitting on my phone and I just keep delaying the install. I've been tempted to get one of the new ANDROID AUTO radios and in order to do so, I'll need to upgrade to Lollipop... But I keep reading about bad experiences with the tmobile 5.0 variant.
Anyone on tmobile stock 5.0 happy? Is everything working? Battery life good? Wifi not dropping?
For that matter, anyone on stock 5.1.1 happy? Does mhl still work?
I'm not super interested in rooting (I will if I have to) or running custom roms (I really need wifi-calling) -- just worried the stock OTA experience is borked.
Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
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5.1.1 is noticeably quicker than 5.0 or below, however it has a major MHL bug, i.e. it does not work! Just purchased the MHL adapter (wasn't aware of what I was missing...it's awesome), but had to downgrade to 5.0 in order for it to work. My guess is a 5.1.1 bug fix ota is likely in the works....I hope. Anyway you can freely Odin flash between any firmware version for this device.
Thanks!
Updated to 5.0. Everything seems to be running smoothly... I'll hold off on 5.1.1 for a while until there's a bug fix.
I am on stock rooted Android 5.0.1, 24B, Lollipop, and have bumped TWRP 2.8.7.0 I know that Andoroid 6.0 is supposed to be headed for the LG G3 in the next few months. I also, know that Verizon is painfully slow to update their phones. I wonder what the best upgrade path might be, for me? 1.) Wait for Verizon OTA, remove root and TWRP and then take the OTA? 2.)Wait for someone to build a rooted stock 6.0 ROM for the Verizon phone, VS985? Any ideas how I can get set, ahead of time, to be in the best position to move to 6.0?
dweezle said:
I am on stock rooted Android 5.0.1, 24B, Lollipop, and have bumped TWRP 2.8.7.0 I know that Andoroid 6.0 is supposed to be headed for the LG G3 in the next few months. I also, know that Verizon is painfully slow to update their phones. I wonder what the best upgrade path might be, for me? 1.) Wait for Verizon OTA, remove root and TWRP and then take the OTA? 2.)Wait for someone to build a rooted stock 6.0 ROM for the Verizon phone, VS985? Any ideas how I can get set, ahead of time, to be in the best position to move to 6.0?
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first and foremost lol, if you see official M for this device before say feb/mar next year, you will be lucky. likely longer.
any rumors to the contrary are plain wrong, i mean this is verizon were talking about lol
at this point we dont know yet when the nexus line is getting the final official. could be next week, could be next month.
verizon cant even start to build the ota until official is released.
1. you never want to take an ota before verifying what they did and didnt break, like root and rollback ability.
so, i would wait for the ota, asses the above, then decide which way to proceed.
2. there is really no way to say which direction is best, until a dev gets a look at the files from the update.
A. nothing you can do ahead of time, and honestly, likely 6mos or more away, i wouldnt even worry about it.
dweezle said:
I am on stock rooted Android 5.0.1, 24B, Lollipop, and have bumped TWRP 2.8.7.0 I know that Andoroid 6.0 is supposed to be headed for the LG G3 in the next few months. I also, know that Verizon is painfully slow to update their phones. I wonder what the best upgrade path might be, for me? 1.) Wait for Verizon OTA, remove root and TWRP and then take the OTA? 2.)Wait for someone to build a rooted stock 6.0 ROM for the Verizon phone, VS985? Any ideas how I can get set, ahead of time, to be in the best position to move to 6.0?
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I agree with @bweN diorD. I would generally go with "2.)Wait for someone to build a rooted stock 6.0 ROM for the Verizon phone, VS985?", in which case you don't have to do anything at all, just wait for it to be available. If for whatever reason that never happens, then I'd go with waiting for the KDZ to be made available (could be days or weeks after the OTA, was only days IIRC for 24B), then flash it using LG Flash Tools 2014, although then you wouldn't be rooted and you might not be able to root it, but you'd be running it until/if someone does release a rooted version or a new root method, if possible.
bweN diorD said:
1. you never want to take an ota before verifying what they did and didnt break, like root and rollback ability.
so, i would wait for the ota, asses the above, then decide which way to proceed.
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Ha! You said "asses".