My battered S4 is on its last legs, so I'll probably replace it with an S5. TMo lists it as coming with 4.4.2, but has an update to 5.0 available. So two questions: have you guys found any real advantages to using Lollipop? And if I gave it a go & liked KK better, can I revert back? Thanks!
I am sticking with KK for only 1 reason is that i am using "Safe Areas" app that its only work KK or 5.1 since 5.0 has a bug that it cant work well with it.
To revert from Lollipop to KK if i dislike it, yup gotta to have custom recovery/rooted and i dont update bootloader to OB1 (lollipop of an official firmware) its still on KK. I think when ya update bootloader to OB1 become to non-revert to KK.
Thank you, sir. It's good to know I can try both without having to commit to either one, at least initially.
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So my girlfriend has wants her S4 rooted. I have the S3 and its quite different as far as rooting goes. I am also on sprint whereas she is on verizon (although thats not such a big deal).
Anyways, what I would like to have clarified for me is this: She is currently unrooted with stock MK2. From what I have read you can only root and install compatible roms with safestrap. The main thing she wants is KitKat and possibly CM. Is there any way for her to get either of these. Also, would it be possible to revert back to stock and flash KitKat with the OTA from verizon when it is released?
Thanks for any help.
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So my girlfriend has wants her S4 rooted. I have the S3 and its quite different as far as rooting goes. I am also on sprint whereas she is on verizon (although thats not such a big deal).
Anyways, what I would like to have clarified for me is this: She is currently unrooted with stock MK2. From what I have read you can only root and install compatible roms with safestrap. The main thing she wants is KitKat and possibly CM. Is there any way for her to get either of these. Also, would it be possible to revert back to stock and flash KitKat with the OTA from verizon when it is released?
Thanks for any help.
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There's no way for her to get KitKat or CM or anything AOSP. Hopefully the next OTA will have an exploit, but there hasn't been a cracked bootloader since the first version of firmware on the initial releases. Realistically, never going to happen.
I had a bad experience with Verizon's OTA to 4.4.2, and they ultimately replaced my phones - with JB4.3.
So I immediately rooted, and have NOT updated to 4.4.X. I want to make certain there is a decent method to get there.
I just spent a half hour googling around, and I am more confused than when I started.
It looks like there are a blue million custom ROMs based on 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, but I can't really find a definitive answer to which one works without a lot of "may still have bugs" caveats.
I keep coming back to towelroot, but it looks like it supports S4 more by accident than by design. That makes me nervous.
So - and forgive me if I am just too dense to find a clear answer that may already exist - Can I, and more importantly HOW can I, update to 4.4.3 or higher?
Is there something I am missing, or does 4.4.3 not exist yet for my phone?
4.4.3 Touchwiz doesn't exist yet. 4.4.2 (NC5 build for our device) is the latest.
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I had a bad experience with Verizon's OTA to 4.4.2, and they ultimately replaced my phones - with JB4.3.
So I immediately rooted, and have NOT updated to 4.4.X. I want to make certain there is a decent method to get there.
I just spent a half hour googling around, and I am more confused than when I started.
It looks like there are a blue million custom ROMs based on 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, but I can't really find a definitive answer to which one works without a lot of "may still have bugs" caveats.
I keep coming back to towelroot, but it looks like it supports S4 more by accident than by design. That makes me nervous.
So - and forgive me if I am just too dense to find a clear answer that may already exist - Can I, and more importantly HOW can I, update to 4.4.3 or higher?
Is there something I am missing, or does 4.4.3 not exist yet for my phone?
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Verizon has now rolled out Lollipop for the GS4 phones; my wife's installed the other day and seems to be OK so far, other than a few bluetooth hiccups.
I still have 2 rooted GS4 phones, both at JB4.3, MK2.
And I am still confused by all of the posts - there seems to be a method to root (NOT on XDA) but it fails because it seems to be ONLY for and NK4.
So, sorry for the repeat question, but is there a way to get to (rooted) Lollipop on my phones?
Thank you.
snurfle said:
Verizon has now rolled out Lollipop for the GS4 phones; my wife's installed the other day and seems to be OK so far, other than a few bluetooth hiccups.
I still have 2 rooted GS4 phones, both at JB4.3, MK2.
And I am still confused by all of the posts - there seems to be a method to root (NOT on XDA) but it fails because it seems to be ONLY for and NK4.
So, sorry for the repeat question, but is there a way to get to (rooted) Lollipop on my phones?
Thank you.
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Sorry for the false alarm, but how did you end up upgrading to Lollipop from MK2? Funny enough, my wife's phone is at MK2 as well, but anytime I try to take the OTA for L, it fails during flash and reboots.
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Sorry for the false alarm, but how did you end up upgrading to Lollipop from MK2? Funny enough, my wife's phone is at MK2 as well, but anytime I try to take the OTA for L, it fails during flash and reboots.
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My wife's phone (not rooted, came with KitKat already installed) updated OTA.
When my 2 JellyBean phones updated to KitKat, they had serious connectivity and battery issues; Verizon replaced them with (as luck would have it) a pair of JellyBean phones. I rooted both of them and stopped accepting OTA updates from Verizon and Samsung altogether.
So, I'm still at JellyBean, but would really like to update to Lollipop but retain root.
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My wife's phone (not rooted, came with KitKat already installed) updated OTA.
When my 2 JellyBean phones updated to KitKat, they had serious connectivity and battery issues; Verizon replaced them with (as luck would have it) a pair of JellyBean phones. I rooted both of them and stopped accepting OTA updates from Verizon and Samsung altogether.
So, I'm still at JellyBean, but would really like to update to Lollipop but retain root.
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you're not gonna be able to downgrade to jellybean through this method (you can downgrade to NC5 Kitkat, 4.4.2 though), but here's a rooted OC1 lollipop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i545oc1-5-0-1-keeproot-t3096558
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I recently got a new Z Ultra GPe as a replacement to my old one. I had OS version 5.0.1 before but the replacement I received is 4.4 and tells me that my phone is up to date. I expected I would get updates but that doesn't seem to be the case. Does anyone know if the OTA updates are still around and if I should be getting them by the normal method (rather then having to manually sideload)? For my needs I'm ok with a the non-rooted stock experience so I don't really want to deviate from that (and I don't really want to void my warranty as I have had to rely on that already). Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I recently got a new Z Ultra GPe as a replacement to my old one. I had OS version 5.0.1 before but the replacement I received is 4.4 and tells me that my phone is up to date. I expected I would get updates but that doesn't seem to be the case. Does anyone know if the OTA updates are still around and if I should be getting them by the normal method (rather then having to manually sideload)? For my needs I'm ok with a the non-rooted stock experience so I don't really want to deviate from that (and I don't really want to void my warranty as I have had to rely on that already). Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I looks like the OTA was pulled (well no longer being pushed) just before Christmas. The 5.0.1 is a little buggy so I would stay on 4.4.4.
Also note that there is no safe way to revert to 4.4.x from 5.0.x unless you root on 4.4.4 and back up the TA.
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I looks like the OTA was pulled (well no longer being pushed) just before Christmas. The 5.0.1 is a little buggy so I would stay on 4.4.4.
Also note that there is no safe way to revert to 4.4.x from 5.0.x unless you root on 4.4.4 and back up the TA.
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Thanks, but I have 4.4 and not 4.4.4. Version 4.4 is super buggy and basically not usable. 5.0.1 was very usable in my opinion. If I can get from 4.4 to 4.4.4 that would be a great place to start. If I remember correctly there were three updates to get from 4.4 to 4.4.4.
If the OTAs are pulled, then why are phones with 4.4 being released into the users hands? I'll have to talk to google support about this. Is anyone else in the same boat I am?
Is only the 4.4.2 OTA not being pushed, or are all Z Ultra GPe updates not being pushed?
Thanks.
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Thanks, but I have 4.4 and not 4.4.4. Version 4.4 is super buggy and basically not usable. 5.0.1 was very usable in my opinion. If I can get from 4.4 to 4.4.4 that would be a great place to start. If I remember correctly there were three updates to get from 4.4 to 4.4.4.
If the OTAs are pulled, then why are phones with 4.4 being released into the users hands? I'll have to talk to google support about this. Is anyone else in the same boat I am?
Is only the 4.4.2 OTA not being pushed, or are all Z Ultra GPe updates not being pushed?
Thanks.
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I'm not sure what ones aren't being pushed any more, but they were all still being pushed just before christmass. You could put 4.4.2 on a SD card and flash that from recovery and see if the 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 OTAs arrive, if not they are archived in the GPe section and I have copies here as well.
Either way I would root 4.4.4 and do a TA backup, it will give you many more options if you ever need to roll back for any reason.
Bugs of note on 5 are:
memory leak
some wifi issues for some users
I have micro hangs (may well be from the memory leak)
OK. Thanks. I am going to do the process here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761698 (different method but same result) to get to 4.4.2 and see what happens.
Hoping someone has a minute or two too answer a few questions. Currently have the Metro PCS S5, but was told I can use the T Mobile software which will work perfectly with it and found out that Metro won't be putting out Lollipop for S5 and would prefer Lollipop over KK. Anyway...
1. I'm opting for 5.0 since 5.1.1 cannot be rooted yet, but was wondering how stable is 5.0?
2. How stable is 5.1.1?
3. Do you think it's worth the effort for me to install 5.0 while waiting on 5.1.1 to be rootable or do you think a root method will be out soon enough that I should just hold off on the 5.0 install?
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Hoping someone has a minute or two too answer a few questions. Currently have the Metro PCS S5, but was told I can use the T Mobile software which will work perfectly with it and found out that Metro won't be putting out Lollipop for S5 and would prefer Lollipop over KK. Anyway...
1. I'm opting for 5.0 since 5.1.1 cannot be rooted yet, but was wondering how stable is 5.0?
2. How stable is 5.1.1?
3. Do you think it's worth the effort for me to install 5.0 while waiting on 5.1.1 to be rootable or do you think a root method will be out soon enough that I should just hold off on the 5.0 install?
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Whoever told you metro isn't updating the s5 is wrong.
5.1.1 runs way faster than 5.0, much smoother, more fluid, gallery and camera is 10x faster, battery seems improved, and I haven't had any issues with it. Yeah no root at the moment but I'm a root junkie and still tough'n out unrooted. And you don't need root for everything since you can flash recovery, MOAB, debloat with the debloater in general, make your own debloat script, etc etc
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Whoever told you metro isn't updating the s5 is wrong.
5.1.1 runs way faster than 5.0, much smoother, more fluid, gallery and camera is 10x faster, battery seems improved, and I haven't had any issues with it. Yeah no root at the moment but I'm a root junkie and still tough'n out unrooted. And you don't need root for everything since you can flash recovery, MOAB, debloat with the debloater in general, make your own debloat script, etc etc
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From what I was told at the local corporate Metro is that they were out of the S5 and didn't expect anymore since they were phasing out the S5 since the S6 was released. I can only assume that if they are phasing it out, they wouldn't waste resources updating it. Not to mention the fact that T Mobile released 5.0 back in like Feb for the S5 and would have expected Metro to follow suit since their pretty much one and the same company.
The battery drain of Lollipop is driving me crazy and since theres no way to go back to kitkat Im stuck with this so I wanna know if theres a way to update to marshmallow
There will be no way to go to marshmellow as there is no Sammy base to build on and there is no bootloader unlock.
Just go to Stang's Lolipop ROMs and get the modules which greatly helps with the battery drain.
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There will be no way to go to marshmellow as there is no Sammy base to build on and there is no bootloader unlock.
Just go to Stang's Lolipop ROMs and get the modules which greatly helps with the battery drain.
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even after sammy update all devices to marshmallow (S7, S6, Note 5, S5, etc.)?
Yes. They have dropped support for the s4. It's not that it can't run marshmellow so much as to get people to buy their latest phones.