Hello,
I mostly use my phone on Wifi but occasionally switch to mobile data. We don't have 4G where I live. The three types of networks available are GPRS (2G), EDGE (2.5G) and HSP (3.5G). Using my previous phone on Mobile Data, I always see the symbol "H" indicating that I on a 3G network. Here are some observations:
1. Since I started using the HAM2 I always see "4G" instead of "H" even though I'm sure it can't be 4G. I can use the internet but its ridiculously slow.
2. Sometimes, when I'm some far away place, I see "E" indicating that I'm using EDGE which means that the "4G" I usually see does not erroneously represent EDGE.
3. I thought the general network in my area was slow. I tried someone else's SAMSUNG phone. The usual "H" was there and the speed was as is expected of a 3.5G network
So, whats wrong with my phone's internet speed. I've verified that I'm using the same access point as everyone else. But internet is just too slow. Usually in SAMSUNG phones, there's an option where you are allowed to switch from 3G to 2G data networks to save some battery but the HAM2 lacks this option. Instead, when defining the access point, there's an option at the bottom called "Bearer" where there are three options; "LTE", "eHRPD" and "Unspecified". Switching to anything other than "Unspecified" does not work.
Is there something that is causing the internet to be slow on my phone or the HAM2 doesn't support 3G data ?
Thanks
4G = H+
4G LTE = LTE
Not sure where you are located, but if you don't have the proper sim card, and provisioning, you won't see LTE, but just 4G, which is the
"old" H+.
I'm in the states, and depending on where I am, and the time of day, using straight talk (tracfone/at&t card), I get anywhere from snail
speed, to around 12meg which is fine for me, I use less than 2gb of data per month. On the phone, that's another story, I use 1500-2000
minutes per month.
medwatt said:
Hello,
I mostly use my phone on Wifi but occasionally switch to mobile data. We don't have 4G where I live. The three types of networks available are GPRS (2G), EDGE (2.5G) and HSP (3.5G). Using my previous phone on Mobile Data, I always see the symbol "H" indicating that I on a 3G network. Here are some observations:
1. Since I started using the HAM2 I always see "4G" instead of "H" even though I'm sure it can't be 4G. I can use the internet but its ridiculously slow.
2. Sometimes, when I'm some far away place, I see "E" indicating that I'm using EDGE which means that the "4G" I usually see does not erroneously represent EDGE.
3. I thought the general network in my area was slow. I tried someone else's SAMSUNG phone. The usual "H" was there and the speed was as is expected of a 3.5G network
So, whats wrong with my phone's internet speed. I've verified that I'm using the same access point as everyone else. But internet is just too slow. Usually in SAMSUNG phones, there's an option where you are allowed to switch from 3G to 2G data networks to save some battery but the HAM2 lacks this option. Instead, when defining the access point, there's an option at the bottom called "Bearer" where there are three options; "LTE", "eHRPD" and "Unspecified". Switching to anything other than "Unspecified" does not work.
Is there something that is causing the internet to be slow on my phone or the HAM2 doesn't support 3G data ?
Thanks
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medwatt said:
Hello,
I mostly use my phone on Wifi but occasionally switch to mobile data. We don't have 4G where I live. The three types of networks available are GPRS (2G), EDGE (2.5G) and HSP (3.5G). Using my previous phone on Mobile Data, I always see the symbol "H" indicating that I on a 3G network. Here are some observations:
1. Since I started using the HAM2 I always see "4G" instead of "H" even though I'm sure it can't be 4G. I can use the internet but its ridiculously slow.
2. Sometimes, when I'm some far away place, I see "E" indicating that I'm using EDGE which means that the "4G" I usually see does not erroneously represent EDGE.
3. I thought the general network in my area was slow. I tried someone else's SAMSUNG phone. The usual "H" was there and the speed was as is expected of a 3.5G network
So, whats wrong with my phone's internet speed. I've verified that I'm using the same access point as everyone else. But internet is just too slow. Usually in SAMSUNG phones, there's an option where you are allowed to switch from 3G to 2G data networks to save some battery but the HAM2 lacks this option. Instead, when defining the access point, there's an option at the bottom called "Bearer" where there are three options; "LTE", "eHRPD" and "Unspecified". Switching to anything other than "Unspecified" does not work.
Is there something that is causing the internet to be slow on my phone or the HAM2 doesn't support 3G data ?
Thanks
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If you have the battery savings set to endurance it Will slow down your internet. Changing to normal would help.
I'm on cricket and mobile hotspot and wifi work great
I'm on metro pcs and had never been more happy till 2 days ago for some reason it started to be really slow, hopefully there is some work being done
I am also using MetroPCS and have had no issues so far. Down speeds are super impressive here in New York. I am almost always around 50mb and have seen 75 a few times. My wifi tethering has also been working with no issues.
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So Im sure any of you on Tmo UK will be aware of this new option they've given us whereby you can opt-in to use the orange networks if you lose reception from Tmobile........
I thought to myself "yeah...... why not..... cant hurt"
Seeing as I barely get a 3G / HSDPA signal where I live I thought that perhaps it might kick into "orange mode" and give me some 3G action.... (sadly it doesnt)...
Anyway since I opted in Ive noticed that sometimes when Im on the Tmo/Orange signal, the "Edge" (E) symbol is displayed in my taskbar......
Its definitely a lot faster than GPRS but doesnt seem to be as quick as HSDPA, I thought that perhaps it was there in place of the 3G symbol but sometimes that will appear too.....
I thought "Edge" was only available in the US.....
Does Orange have some kind of in between speed that I was previously unaware of??
conantroutman said:
So Im sure any of you on Tmo UK will be aware of this new option they've given us whereby you can opt-in to use the orange networks if you lose reception from Tmobile........
I thought to myself "yeah...... why not..... cant hurt"
Seeing as I barely get a 3G / HSDPA signal where I live I thought that perhaps it might kick into "orange mode" and give me some 3G action.... (sadly it doesnt)...
Anyway since I opted in Ive noticed that sometimes when Im on the Tmo/Orange signal, the "Edge" (E) symbol is displayed in my taskbar......
Its definitely a lot faster than GPRS but doesnt seem to be as quick as HSDPA, I thought that perhaps it was there in place of the 3G symbol but sometimes that will appear too.....
I thought "Edge" was only available in the US.....
Does Orange have some kind of in between speed that I was previously unaware of??
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I don't know it fore sure, but France Telecom (Group holder of Orange) have invest a lot in UMTS maybe it's that you got.
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edge
3g
H
in order of speed, edge has been used in the uk for years
So you texted Yes to 2121 as well.. I honestly cannot spot any difference, still haven't gotten Orange coverage yet
Richy99 said:
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edge
3g
H
in order of speed, edge has been used in the uk for years
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Didnt realise that........
about edge anyway........
cheers...
Don001 said:
So you texted Yes to 2121 as well.. I honestly cannot spot any difference, still haven't gotten Orange coverage yet
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lol you probably wont need it in London........
coverage is poor out here in the sticks though..........
it perhaps won't auto switch networks, because it knows t mo is the preferred network, unless there is no t mo reception at all.
you maybe need to add the orange network as a preferred network
settings menu all settings personal phone network tab set networks let's you set the preferred order and such, so if you find yourself in an orange dominant area move orange above tmo in the list.
conantroutman said:
lol you probably wont need it in London........
coverage is poor out here in the sticks though..........
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OK I'm generally a proud Londoner (Not a bad thing lol).. But sometimes I've been in the middle of Oxford Street and notice I have no reception, London isn't a great place for good reception is some areas, you get better reception in residential areas then main high streets
@sam...
Mine seems to switch even when I have a reasonable amount of signal.
9 times out of 10 today when I looked at my phone I had the roaming and edge symbols sitting in my taskbar....
I generally never struggle for basic network coverage so I was surprised at how often I'm on orange signal...
@don..
Yeah I guess there are plenty of things that could hamper you're signal...
Maybe it's that famous london smog I've heard so much about
conantroutman said:
@sam...
Mine seems to switch even when I have a reasonable amount of signal.
9 times out of 10 today when I looked at my phone I had the roaming and edge symbols sitting in my taskbar....
I generally never struggle for basic network coverage so I was surprised at how often I'm on orange signal...
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good to know, i guess it must do some signal strength comparing.
conantroutman said:
@don..
Yeah I guess there are plenty of things that could hamper you're signal...
Maybe it's that famous london smog I've heard so much about
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Maybe lol
Battery Drain
I've also just signed up to this as I get poor signal thru T-Mobile when in some buildings whilst at work.
Problem is that I've noticed a significant drain in battery since subscribing presumably as the phone is always comparing signal strength of both Tmo and Orange and switching between the two periodically.
Is there a way to change carrier manually through some form of *#*# dial code rather than to switch to manual and select the desired network as this takes a while? I don't seem to have the option to set my preferred networks as a previous poster mentioned.
I've had mixed experience with this - make sure your sense and activesync settings are set to NOT download data when roaming - the Orange/T-mobile thing calls itself roaming and I kept getting password incorrect responses from gmail on activesync, I assume because it was trying to access the servers from different IP addresses rapidly. You do not get 3G etc from Orange - your data comes over t-mobile, you just roaming onto the Orange network when there is no signal on t-mobile, so it should give you better call coverage, but for data switch off roaming so it only tries to access data when on t-mobile.
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I've had mixed experience with this - make sure your sense and activesync settings are set to NOT download data when roaming - the Orange/T-mobile thing calls itself roaming and I kept getting password incorrect responses from gmail on activesync, I assume because it was trying to access the servers from different IP addresses rapidly. You do not get 3G etc from Orange - your data comes over t-mobile, you just roaming onto the Orange network when there is no signal on t-mobile, so it should give you better call coverage, but for data switch off roaming so it only tries to access data when on t-mobile.
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Are you saying that there are charges for data usage whilst using the orange side of things?......
Hope not........ Lol
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I just went to the ATT store to test drive the Atrix and it is literallylike 1/2 mile from my home...
The Icon showed H+, but the ATT guy told me we don't have 4G in our area....He said that I am connected to 3G and the only way to know if I am connected to HSPA is when the Up and Down arror are bold and not grayed out.
Is this true ? How can I be 100% sure if I have 4G
I think it only becomes 'bold' when you're actively transferring data, unless he meant that the arrows would become larger or something. But, the only way to know would be to check Speedtest every couple of weeks and see if it's gotten faster. maybe see if the AT&T reps can find out when 4g will be enabled in your area
Go to Settings>About Phone>Status - See "Mobile Network Type"
Unlike HSUPA and HSDPA, 14.4 HSPA+ isn't a "mode". What happens is your phone tells the network it can receive 15 codes at once, which are basically channels. 10 codes gives you 7.2 Mbits and 5 codes is 3.6.
The network decides how many codes are assigned to you the instant before it transmits data. You may not get all 15, because other people are using the network for data or voice. On the other hand, even if the backhaul hasn't been upgraded, you may use all 15, because the base station might burst the data at once, in order to save your battery.
The best you can tell is what dsjr2006 said.
So which one is HSDPA? Im getting taht one according to what dsjr2006 said.
according to the user manual on the phone, if it shows an H your connected with 4G, if it shows a 3 your connected with 3G. I might take that with a grain of salt, and would use a speed test to check actual speeds.
ATT claims that all the towers will connect 4g but not all of them have the speed to support that yet. Hence the H+ sign but 3g like speeds
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I have noticed that my phone seems to prefer 3G data to 4G where I live. (I'm in the Stow, OH area for those curious)
At first I thought I simply didn't pick 4G up at my house because I've never had the strongest 3G signal here either. But if I go into the Phone Info and switch the radio to "LTE mode", it switches to 4G no problem.
For some confirmation that the software wasn't being glitchy, I did a speed test and got ~5mbit down (like I said, I may not have the best 4G coverage... I get upwards of 18mbit when I'm in the Akron area). And for additional confirmation, I placed a call and was also able to simultaneously surf and do another 5mbit speed test. So it is definitely connected to 4G.
For more experimentation, I switched it back to the usual "CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto". The icon switched to the 3G symbol. I then tried placing a call, and I was able to simultaneously use data, but it was clearly 3G speed. So it seems it used the 4G radio for the call, but the 3G radio for the data (weird).
So, I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed it this kind of behavior? Perhaps in the fringe coverage areas this will be most noticeable.
My phone dose this too. I think its poor 4g service and stuff. Im sure it will inrpove eventually
Interesting...
Now I put it on the "CDMA Auto (PRL)" option. speed test indicates 3G speeds. But then I place a call, and the call AND data are both working-- at 3G speeds. So maybe this was what was happening on the CDMA + LTE mode I selected before.
It appears Verizon has some sort of simultaneous 3G technology now?? I wasn't aware of this-- certainly about time, though.
But my initial conclusion does seem to be true-- it's preferring the 3G coverage to the 4G coverage. Perhaps this is a battery life decision. Or something else completely weird is going on.
Either way, I'm plenty happy with the phone.
Ever since I've transferred to AT&T I've had laggy data issues. I finally rooted/flashed to AOKP, and while trying to address the issues of no APNs appearing or saving and no signal status in the status bar, I've come to find both AT&T and T-Mobile as Available Networks under some network setting. Am I chasing ghosts here, or is there something actually up?
EDIT: So I really need help troubleshooting the issue. I'll logcat, dump, or whatever necessary. I've been in many cities/areas and this problem persists: if I haven't used data or the phone hasn't been backgrounding traffic, it'll take anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds before a connection is made when I try to access an internet-related function on my phone (even though 3G/H is displayed in the status bar). Out of shear frustration (this has been happening since I got the phone, under stock ROMs and now under AOKP), I tried messing with *#*#info#*#*. I changed WCDMA-preferred to WCDMA-only -- no improvement. Oddly, I also tried GSM-only. Well, great improvement! Even though I only have E, there is absolutely no latency in waiting for a connection -- so pages and other data end up loading faster on Edge than 3G !
I have absolutely no idea why my phone takes forever to make a connection. Under 3G, I see only but a few upstream network activity blips (even under full bars) for as much as 30 seconds, before there is any downstream activity (and when it comes, it comes). Can anyone help???
P.S.: I'm going to try using a friend's SIM later for comparison.
joebobjoe said:
Ever since I've transferred to AT&T I've had laggy data issues. I finally rooted/flashed to AOKP, and while trying to address the issues of no APNs appearing or saving and no signal status in the status bar, I've come to find both AT&T and T-Mobile as Available Networks under some network setting. Am I chasing ghosts here, or is there something actually up?
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Because they both share the 1900MHz band I believe.
Red5 said:
Because they both share the 1900MHz band I believe.
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I'd like to know if it shows up for anyone else?
joebobjoe said:
I'd like to know if it shows up for anyone else?
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On AOKP it does for me too. Just ignore it.
Red5 said:
On AOKP it does for me too. Just ignore it.
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An aside: does your phone stay on 3G and switch to H only under moderate network traffic?
joebobjoe said:
An aside: does your phone stay on 3G and switch to H only under moderate network traffic?
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The phone displays 3G because thats what it is... then when data is being processed, it shows H because its using the "what AT&T calls 4G but its really HSPA" side of the network. For just standby time with no data, its going to show 3G because HSDPA is traffic, not standby.
Red5 said:
The phone displays 3G because thats what it is... then when data is being processed, it shows H because its using the "what AT&T calls 4G but its really HSPA" side of the network. For just standby time with no data, its going to show 3G because HSDPA is traffic, not standby.
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Well that's strange. I'm used to phones displaying what network-level they are capable of. So why would it not just display H for HSPA+ when HSPA+ service is available, instead of only displaying under traffic.
I'm going to go ahead an edit this thread to help troubleshoot what I think to be the main issue.
After some trials I see that the network indicator switches back and forth between 3G and H a few tines before making the connection and transmitting data. Hmmm...
Basically, "4G" will eat your battery alive so the phone idles at 3G and jumps to H+ only when you use data. If you were on a "stock" ATT rom it would always read H+, but this is technically false since when its idle the phone sits in 3G. CM9 and AOKP accurately display it which is why you see the switch.
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I have a HTC Amaze for a phone and the Galaxy S2 is my media player. Sometimes, when I don't feel like carrying around two devices, I put my T-Mobile SIM in the galaxy and use it as my phone. I must say, Edge is not as slow as I remember it being. Maybe speed is contingent on network traffic. If thats the case, instead of using crowded "faux G" networks, I may defer to Edge to save battery life and get good dl/ul rates.
My phone does the same thing. I noticed it sometime ago. When idle 3g. Internet I get H+. This is with both Shostock2 and Phone Bricker. I was curious to know too but just blew it off because it really doesnt make any difference to me as long as Im getting decent speeds. Im not even with ATT anymore. Went with Straight Talk. Which uses ATT towers. Cant beat the price!!
They don't have the correct apns, but that symbol problem is because the phone doesn't use hspa+ passively, only actively. It causes some lag when downloading, but it is faster fit large data. But your problem is due to a supposed imei range with bad modems. Rehash stick, fix the triangle, and return it.
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I just purchased a Consumer Cellular Ascend Mate 2 and unlocked it to use on Cricket. I setup the APN and am able to obtain a data connection and web browsing works. However, I've noticed that when I reset the phone it seems to take a lot longer to obtain a signal than my other phones (up to a minute).
The other issue is that it seems to switch back and forth between HSPA+ and LTE. After a reboot, when it finally obtains a signal, it is HSPA+ only. After 20 minutes or so, next to the 4G symbol, LTE pops up in the top right corner of the phone. After a few minutes of web browsing, the LTE symbol goes away and under Phone Status is has changed from LTE to HSPA+ again. I have tried hard resetting the phone and tried both Cricket sim cards I have with same results.
Is the long time to obtain a network signal when loading normal and is there a setting (power saver?) that is causing it to change from LTE to HSPA+?
Note, I did try changing the power setting I could find to Normal mode to see if this helped... It did not.. Also, the same sim cards in an iPhone 5 and another Android phone both maintain a consistent LTE connection in the same location.
odnerd said:
I just purchased a Consumer Cellular Ascend Mate 2 and unlocked it to use on Cricket. I setup the APN and am able to obtain a data connection and web browsing works. However, I've noticed that when I reset the phone it seems to take a lot longer to obtain a signal than my other phones (up to a minute).
The other issue is that it seems to switch back and forth between HSPA+ and LTE. After a reboot, when it finally obtains a signal, it is HSPA+ only. After 20 minutes or so, next to the 4G symbol, LTE pops up in the top right corner of the phone. After a few minutes of web browsing, the LTE symbol goes away and under Phone Status is has changed from LTE to HSPA+ again. I have tried hard resetting the phone and tried both Cricket sim cards I have with same results.
Is the long time to obtain a network signal when loading normal and is there a setting (power saver?) that is causing it to change from LTE to HSPA+?
Note, I did try changing the power setting I could find to Normal mode to see if this helped... It did not.. Also, the same sim cards in an iPhone 5 and another Android phone both maintain a consistent LTE connection in the same location.
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This is usually an APN setting left blank that should be filled in. So it has to adapt to the signal.