My daughter has a Galaxy Player 4.2 and loves it. Problem is it is starting to show it's age and starting to have problems. I have done a factory reset / wipe.
I am looking to see what is new that is out there similar to the old Galaxy Players. I'm not getting her a cell phone, so trying to stick with an Android media player for her. She does e-mails, music, movies, and games mainly.
I really don't want to move her over to a Ipod touch as everyone else in the house runs Android.
I've looked around, but couldn't find really anything like the old Galaxy Players.
Is there anything "newer" out there for android?
I had the 5.0 and have only just moved it on. It was superb. There is a dual core Korean version of the player but I could not find any comparable media only players. Have a cheap 5" phone now with mobile turned off
Nope. I think media players like the galaxy player are dying. Best thing to do is use an old android phone as a media player. Just put it on airplane mode(to turn off mobile completely) and turn WiFi back on. I use many of my old phones are WiFi only devices.
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Nope. I think media players like the galaxy player are dying. Best thing to do is use an old android phone as a media player. Just put it on airplane mode(to turn off mobile completely) and turn WiFi back on. I use many of my old phones are WiFi only devices.
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Yea, I think I am going to end up going that route.
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I replaced my 5.0 with a Fiio X5 for my music listening. The other major use for my 5.0 was my oldest kid used it to play games, and for that I gave him a recently retired phone minus sim card. I spent some time looking for a new product like the old 5.0, the market just does not seem to exist.
There are some but they are quite expensive. You're better off getting a pre paid smartphone (like the LG Volt) and not turning on the service.
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As mentioned, your best bet is probably to get a budget unlocked smartphone and simply not purchase a cell phone plan since they require a SIM card to be inserted. It may even get the added benefit that 911 can be dialed.
Moto G (2nd Gen.) is one of the newest of Motorola's line and is the most similar I've found to the Galaxy Player. It's a very familiar $180 with decent processing power. However, the display is much larger at 5.0" from 4.2", so if that's a dealbreaker, you can consider the first generation model that is a closer 4.5", but at the cost of a micro SD expansion slot for increasing storage and other familiar features like front-facing speakers. Unlike the Galaxy Player, there are no hardware or capactitive buttons, meaning they will be on-screen (related: cheaper Moto E and flagship Moto X)
Blu Vivo Air is an extremely recent product. It's $200 with excellent design and a very pleasing 5.1mm thickness, but at the cost of mediocre processing power and display quality and a lack of a micro SD slot. As with most phone alternatives, the screen is a larger 4.8". Capacitive buttons are in a similar format. (related: other Blu products)
OnePlus One is also worth mentioning. It's much pricier at $300 or $350, but for that price offers well outside of its league with only slightly outdated top-of-the-line processing power, very good design, a 1080p 5.5" screen, one of the best battery life, optional capacitive buttons, and a custom Android ROM (Cyanogen or otherwise). It lacks a micro SD slot and requires you to obtain an invite before purchasing (which should not take much effort or time if you decide to purchase it). A follow-up OnePlus 2/Two is slated for later this year, though early reports place it at a much higher price range of around $435, though improved specs, design, and perhaps other desired features will be rolled in. (related: Nexus 5)
There are others that I haven't included, since these three seem to offer a relatively similar package as the Galaxy Player did with their own strengths in processing capability, hardware features, design, and price. If anyone has any other modern alternatives that they like, I'd be interested to hear about it. Hopefully that helps; I'm interested in this side of the side of the market for PMPs as well. But right now, unlocked cell phones may be the better substitute.
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As mentioned, your best bet is probably to get a budget unlocked smartphone and simply not purchase a cell phone plan since they require a SIM card to be inserted. It may even get the added benefit that 911 can be dialed.
Moto G (2nd Gen.) is one of the newest of Motorola's line and is the most similar I've found to the Galaxy Player. It's a very familiar $180 with decent processing power. However, the display is much larger at 5.0" from 4.2", so if that's a dealbreaker, you can consider the first generation model that is a closer 4.5", but at the cost of a micro SD expansion slot for increasing storage and other familiar features like front-facing speakers. Unlike the Galaxy Player, there are no hardware or capactitive buttons, meaning they will be on-screen (related: cheaper Moto E and flagship Moto X)
Blu Vivo Air is an extremely recent product. It's $200 with excellent design and a very pleasing 5.1mm thickness, but at the cost of mediocre processing power and display quality and a lack of a micro SD slot. As with most phone alternatives, the screen is a larger 4.8". Capacitive buttons are in a similar format. (related: other Blu products)
OnePlus One is also worth mentioning. It's much pricier at $300 or $350, but for that price offers well outside of its league with only slightly outdated top-of-the-line processing power, very good design, a 1080p 5.5" screen, one of the best battery life, optional capacitive buttons, and a custom Android ROM (Cyanogen or otherwise). It lacks a micro SD slot and requires you to obtain an invite before purchasing (which should not take much effort or time if you decide to purchase it). A follow-up OnePlus 2/Two is slated for later this year, though early reports place it at a much higher price range of around $435, though improved specs, design, and perhaps other desired features will be rolled in. (related: Nexus 5)
There are others that I haven't included, since these three seem to offer a relatively similar package as the Galaxy Player did with their own strengths in processing capability, hardware features, design, and price. If anyone has any other modern alternatives that they like, I'd be interested to hear about it. Hopefully that helps; I'm interested in this side of the side of the market for PMPs as well. But right now, unlocked cell phones may be the better substitute.
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You can get the first gen moto g with an SD Card slot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh0vlSVLsDs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Also I think we should wait to see what the Zenfone 2 brings. As it stands it is better than the One Plus One.
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You can get the first gen moto g with an SD Card slot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh0vlSVLsDs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Also I think we should wait to see what the Zenfone 2 brings. As it stands it is better than the One Plus One.
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Thanks! I wasn't aware of this. That's a really big move by ASUS, though I suppose it's not surprising with their general growth in the mobile market. $199 for the base model (1.8GHz/2GB over 2.3GHz/4GB I assume) of such a premium product is exceptional.
The possibility of a smaller and possibly even cheaper 5.0-inch model alongside the 5.5-inch one also seems great. I'm not especially partial to the design or placement of the headphone jack, but I guess that's all I really have to complain about on paper.
Maybe the 5.0 version? I don't think there are any android media players anymore. Best they got are the iPods.
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Thanks! I wasn't aware of this. That's a really big move by ASUS, though I suppose it's not surprising with their general growth in the mobile market. $199 for the base model (1.8GHz/2GB over 2.3GHz/4GB I assume) of such a premium product is exceptional.
The possibility of a smaller and possibly even cheaper 5.0-inch model alongside the 5.5-inch one also seems great. I'm not especially partial to the design or placement of the headphone jack, but I guess that's all I really have to complain about on paper.
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I feel like premium phones should be priced between 200 and 300 dollars since we upgrade them yearly. For now premium is 500 dollars plus. I feel that that's a ripoff.
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I feel like premium phones should be priced between 200 and 300 dollars since we upgrade them yearly. For now premium is 500 dollars plus. I feel that that's a ripoff.
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The problem is most people choose to upgrade them yearly. Seriously, a phone from 2012/2013 is more than capable of providing a good experience. I'm glad we are seeing the rise of $150-$200 unlocked phones that are great for the price since they show that you don't need a $500+.
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I just want something that's just like the galaxy player, with wifi only no 3 or 4G. Because I just don't want to pay monthly just to enjoy a phone.
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I just want something that's just like the galaxy player, with wifi only no 3 or 4G. Because I just don't want to pay monthly just to enjoy a phone.
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You don't have to turn on the service. For instance, my sister got an LG Volt for $80 and she just used it on WiFi with airplane mode enabled until she decided to turn on her service. I'm doing the same with this T989 too.
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Thank you sir for notifying me about this. What do you guys think I should save up to get. I want something that has a 5 inch display running android kitkat that's not so expensive. But no touchwiz, it's bad enough that I have to deal with it on my galaxytab4 7.0
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Thank you sir for notifying me about this. What do you guys think I should save up to get. I want something that has a 5 inch display running android kitkat that's not so expensive. But no touchwiz, it's bad enough that I have to deal with it on my galaxytab4 7.0
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You could try a moto g. Its pretty much stock android.
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So the moto g huh.... maybe I'll look into that device. Do you have any other devices you recommend for me
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I picked up a Lenovo a850 for around £40 GBP. Nice big 5.5" screen, dual sim if required, similar resolution to the Galaxy if not better. Really like it, although speakers are no where near as good
Ok I'm looked into that device and it was ok. You guys have anything else that you recommend.
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Ok I'm looked into that device and it was ok. You guys have anything else that you recommend.
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Well its not stock android but the HTC desire 816 is good. Not expensive and has front speakers. That's a phone I'm going to buy soon
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Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.
I Present the Galaxy Player 5.8 (YP-GP1) Instruction Manual (설명서)
I hope that some of you may be able to find this of some use. I was browsing the Naver Cafes and found a PDF of the instruction manual for the Galaxy Player 5.8, or otherwise known as the YP-GP1. My apologies for those of you that don't understand Korean, however there are lots of pictures, you'll at least have a better understanding of the overall layout of the device's appearance; among other things.
As an aside, for those of you that aren't aware, the Galaxy Player 5.8 was just released on the Korean market today (9/11/2012), although I have no idea of pricing or international release dates.
P.S. - The file size surpassed XDA's limit, so I uploaded it here. I can assure this file is a PDF and that it is safe to download.
HERE: https://anonfiles.com/file/072d74f76b8d1e79a5e0188112c6be49
Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
Good to know that it's already released in Korea
Edit: can't understand anything in the manual. Can you tell me does it have a back camera? If so how is the camera quality.
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Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like this)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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Oh and do you know does it have a back camera? I just want a back camera to scan bar code and text, not for taking pictures, so it doesn't have to be high quality.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
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In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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Yes. It was advertized widely in Korea. I hadn't thought about the YP-GB70D, but you are right to mention that. However, I still want to hold out hope, as this is a brand new device modeled after their flagship phone the S III. So, with that in mind, Samsung may want to release the device here with a fresh start; also where the Galaxy S III is selling well.
If all else fails, you could probably pick one up on eBay in the near future.
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6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like thid)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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Oh and do you know does it have a back camera? I just want a back camera to scan bar code and text, not for taking pictures, so it doesn't have to be high quality.
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:laugh: Nope, sorry. I am not Korean, but I have lived in Korea. I am as white as they come. I like to call myself a linguist.
But, to answer your question, if you take a look at the instruction manual I uploaded, there are lots of pictures of the device and features. However, the short answer to your question is, "Yes. It does have a front and rear camera."
Also, about the iPod Touch 5, I'd advise you to wait for the Galaxy Player, as you'll probably be able to get one on eBay in the near future. If you go with Apple, you look like everybody else. You have the same device as probably 1:3 people around you. Be different, and more importantly, go BIG! You know you want 5.8 inches of screen real estate.:good:
Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
Thanks for the manual BTW. Now I just need an interpreter, lol!
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
Oh! One more thing for those of you who were wondering, the device DOES have a rear camera. I believe the rear camera is 3 megapixels. (I know. I know. Terrible, right?) As for the front camera (don't quote me on this), I believe it is .3 megapixels, but I'll update this post if/when I get an actual figure. (I know I saw it in the manual.)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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well i believe they will not price it that high unless they're crazy, at least in the US.
i'd get a nexus 7 or kindle fire hd or ipod touch (because it's portable than the 2 tablets). the highest price i'd pay for the 16GB is $250, and i expect it to be $200.
how come they price it $400, you know my TF300T is $400, the ipad 2 is $400. This is not a galaxy s3 or note 2, it doesn't have good resolution, it doesn't have very good processor, why? because they want to cut cost. who would buy it at $400, i know i won't.
in my opinion $200 is still expensive, the fire hd and the nexus 7 are priced at $200 and they have pretty good specs. that's why i'm thinking if apple price the ipod touch 5 $200 it should have something good/special.
In short, i would never buy this device if it's $400 (which i believe the price is not true, samsung is not that crazy)
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
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i also am hoping for the Bluetooth hands-free profile. the page 121 in the manual says that (using google translator):
"Music by connecting a stereo headset that supports Bluetooth function
Or hear or connect external devices, mobile phone data and
Can get.
Bluetooth feature on or off."
does this mean bt hf?
Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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hmm -> http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/pod-touch-hands-on-2012-video/
I actually think it's a pretty sweet looking device.. I think i will get it just to see what this iOS is about (since i've never owned an iOS device before). They say it'll get the iPhone 4s' processor, which is (AFAIK) is very powerful and is (much) more powerful than what Samsung Galaxy players have. No way i'm parting with my Galaxy Players though (In fact am planning to get the new 5.8 as well). Pitty this iPod Touch can't be upgraded to Android.. and Apple devices have crappy batteries (except iPads, iPhone 4S has a 950MAh battery, which is a joke!)
Yup, well tell me what you think.
My dad has an iPad, and here are the biggest things that bug me about iOS: first and foremost, WHY THE HECK ARE ALL THE APP SETTINGS PUT INTO THE SYSTEM SETTINGS!? It just makes no sense! When I want to change the settings of an app, I should find the settings in the app, NOT have to dig around in the system settings! Another thing that is super annoying is the lack of a common back button like android. The unisearch is also junk compared to android's, for example no search suggestions and no customizing searchable items! Another HUGE handicap is no file browser (yes you can jail break, but my dad won't, and frankly you shouldn't have to!). I think this feature is one that truly shows how much more open and PC-like android is! The list goes on, but these are the ones always giving me a headache.
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If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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euphoriaflow said:
If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
Thoughts? Ideas?
By the way, here is the link for that YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttpv3ONlYHM
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
Thoughts? Ideas?
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I think that's a fine plan of action, Note 2 would most definitely be better.
If the new Player has a reasonable enough price, I might consider it, however, if it is too expensive, I'll probably just go with a 16 GB Nexus 7, since 8 GB is certainly not enough for me, lol.
I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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I had the HTC One before the S4 that I have now. All I will say is that as soon as the One drops on Verizon, I will be switching back. I test phones on a daily basis and the One is the best phone I've used to date. You won't be disappointed with either, but I prefer the One. Sense is much better than Touchwiz now IMO and the build quality and audio can't be beat. I prefer the screen on the One also
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I didn't buy the ONE (or wait for it) because of the reviews. You might like the HTC ONE based on if you want metal build, smaller screen (equals 468 ppi to 441 ppi in S4 slightly sharper text) and the BOOM sound (front facing speakers). With no SD expansion or removable battery, that was a deal killer for me. S4 has better specs and is already made for the AWS network for Verizon (faster LTE speeds). Also, HTC is by far the worst EVER of getting updates out for their phones (yes, even worse then Motorola at their worst)
for me S4 was the no brainer deal for me
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I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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If you will be rooting, the only thing the One would have over the S4 is BoomSound and a nicer case. Being unable to swap SD cards or batteries would bug me. If all you need is a bigger screen and you can wait, why not wait a few more months for a Note 3 or One Max?
I had an Evo 4G before the S4 (I never rooted it), so I've got nothing against HTC. HTC doesn't seem to offer (read, foist on you) the suite of apps Samsung does. Samsung seems to be trying to push their content store to compete with Google Play, so I hope future updates don't add tons of bloat related to the Samsung app store...
I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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Not a fan of HTC anymore. I had all the EVOs.
I'd take the S4 all day long over the One. Just a matter of personal preference.
Doesnt HTC take a lonnnnnnng ass time or never to release source? While Samsung does it on day 1, yea good luck with HTC and the handicapped Roms for it.
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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The firmware update that allows apps to be moved to SD card makes your invalid argument invalid again.
I pick the S4 for the reasons stated. No expandable memory, no removable battery, HTC has garbage update schedules, and weaker specs.
But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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It all boils down to preference. Most people want good battery life and cool apps or software. I've used both and when the One releases on Verizon I will have both and use both,
... But to answer the question I will use the S4 more since the battery does last a bit longer and it can do some pretty cool stuff, but most of all I believe there will be more customization on the S4. Lord knows I am a customization fool,. Cheers!!!
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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This is certainly important if you do not want to root the S4. I bet there will be root apps that can redirect app installations to the SD card, if they don't already exist. And Samsung will probably get native full external card installation working eventually. Or they're going to see sales drop off as more and more people bump up against that limit, and scramble to fix it. Why they didn't do this in first place is beyond me - especially with such a small built-in card. Either they wanted to sell more of their own SD cards, they wanted an excuse to charge heaps more for just a little more memory, or Apple sued them into not doing it.
And batteries get old. It might need replacing. Sometimes.
I used to be a diehard htc fan since the original evo but after the one was put on hold, and the poor development and official htc support for the rezound, I doubt I'll go back. I will miss htc but they dropped the ball far too many times and I know it will happen again (maybe not for their current devices) even though they cannot afford to screw anything else up. So bottom line, do you want a pretty phone with nice sound and a slightly, yet not noticeably better screen? Or do you want a larger screen, insane amount of dev and Samsung support for years to come, and removable battery and storage?
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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No, the update that is coming out will not require root. It's an OTA update that lets you move apps to the SD card again.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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Thunderbolt was released in March of 2011. The first ICS device was the Galaxy Nexus which was released November 2011. Does not invalidate your point, though. I was a 'bolt owner, too. It was out for about six months before viable LTE phones were releases (Rezound, Bionic), and even those were not all that great. It got truly usable when Liquid 3.2 was released for AOSP and SkyRaider Zeus was released for Sense. Those were a LONG time after the phone was released, though.
I view it as an early adopter thing, not an HTC thing. We are going to experience the same thing with AWS. Odds are this phone will suck for AWS...the hardware is too far out in front of the service release...no way there won't be issues that are patched around, etc.
S-off will really help get the dev work going on the One. I think it is a perfectly viable alternative to this phone really. Just a different flavor. I have never had a Samsung phone so for me, that was part of the appeal...something different.
if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
YouTube benchmarks on comparisons... You may be surprised how much slower HTC one is.
If you don't like touch wiz, there's lots of options... I use nova launcher on cube mode and love it.
While many defend it, sense does eat up processor attention.
Main advantage with HTC is reading in bright sunlight, 95 percent of my reading is indoors, metal case is nice.
I like options for different batteries, external memory, better camera, better software.... To each his own but benchmarks alone mean little if those benchmarks don't depict real life use.
If you love the best camera you can get, go S4, if you listen to music through speakers then HTC, if through headphones S4 has nice equalizing software.
I personally feel real life pictures can be boring.. I like high saturation of Hd amoled screen.
The Hd mode on the camera makes a perfect picture in crappy lighting!
The S3 has up to a 7000mah battery avail, not sure what they will come up with for the S4 but I don't like bring limited. http://zerolemon.com/
Anyway, each phone is nice, but they both have things the other doesn't.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
I own both and really like both. However, if I had to choose only one, it would be the S IV.
The main reason is battery life and how long the One takes to charge.
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if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
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Yea, that note 3 I have my eye on!
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
Hmmm....
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My 5.0 is a bit banged-up and I'm wavering toward getting a refurbed unit as a backup before they all go and/or this one gives up the ghost, but I'd rather have something new.
- 7-inch tablets are a bit larger and bulkier than what I want. (The new Nexus 7 is a good deal, but....its still a tablet...without a microsd card slot.)
- Smart phones are too damn expensive and I'd really rather *not* have an OLED screen.
Samsung seems able to release every size and format of device except a media-centric device in the 5"-6" range.
I'd even settle for the 5.8 inch upgrade that was released in Korea sans a camera flash right about now.
Anyone else even a bit miffed at Samsung's firm focus on tablets and smartphones now?
I'm not complaining really. I still love love love my 5.0, but I hope this isn't the end of the line for this format in this size.
-A Samsung customer getting really tired of waiting for something new.
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If the market was there, and large enough, rest assured, they would get to work on it immediately. I'm not sure the market is there for smaller-than-tablet devices.
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If the market was there, and large enough, rest assured, they would get to work on it immediately. I'm not sure the market is there for smaller-than-tablet devices.
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The market may have shriveled to a pathetic nub for all I know, but I wish to add my voice to the OPs. That post pretty well describes me (perhaps there's a fair number of us holding the fort; dare I hope?).
I often dryly state that i am 'between jobs' so a smartphone w/ contract really isn't an option for me right now, but I'd dearly love to dump such shekels as I can spare into a quality pocketable Android device that is still being supported. My beloved Sansa has begun to show its age, so I won't be able to put the decision off too much longer. Hear me, O Mighty Samsung Gods, all I ask is one last pseudo-Luddite-indulging hurrah...
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If the market was there, and large enough, rest assured, they would get to work on it immediately. I'm not sure the market is there for smaller-than-tablet devices.
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You may be right, but surely South Koreans aren't the only ones who buy PMPs. I'm sure they'd sell more if they offered them worldwide.
Maybe they're going to offer the YP-GP1-5.8 reissue soon stateside/worldwide (It's been about a year since it was released in Korea) after the market there becomes saturated with them and they have a ton of parts left lying around and need to make a profit on them.
Or maybe not. The Nexus 7-2nd Gen. *is* starting to look a bit more attractive though....just a bit...
I think actually the galaxy player is a good alternative to expensive tablets and phone and these mixtures because. But something new wouldn't be bad...
A little bit more power and RAM would be enough
The Design might be a little bit more rounded but the size is nearly perfect
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IKR we need an upgrade.
moxia said:
You may be right, but surely South Koreans aren't the only ones who buy PMPs. I'm sure they'd sell more if they offered them worldwide.
Maybe they're going to offer the YP-GP1-5.8 reissue soon stateside/worldwide (It's been about a year since it was released in Korea) after the market there becomes saturated with them and they have a ton of parts left lying around and need to make a profit on them.
Or maybe not. The Nexus 7-2nd Gen. *is* starting to look a bit more attractive though....just a bit...
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I don't think it is that. The market is here, but the thing is Samsung is the only company from what I seen that made an android PMP player. Also with this market you have to make the device a great price, and that's any where from $100-$150. I'd say $200 but then people would be all like "Well I can get a nexus 7 for that price"
I want an upgrade also. Sucks that the galaxys players are not as popular as ipods
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I want an upgrade also. Sucks that the galaxys players are not as popular as ipods
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Yes it really sucks but the problem is a lack of marketing for our device. Most people asking about my player are really impressed of its size and the fact that it's running android. They find it way better than these boring Apple iPods
Murphy's Law indicates that if I lose my cool and opt for a Nexus 7 'consolation prize', Samsung will release a dream device the next day
Ipods aren't even that popular anymore. Look how long it took Apple to refresh their lineup.
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Yes it really sucks but the problem is a lack of marketing for our device. Most people asking about my player are really impressed of its size and the fact that it's running android. They find it way better than these boring Apple iPods
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Lol true. It's funny because most people that see me using mine(I use it as a wifi phone with Google voice and groove ip) think its an ACTUAL phone. I have owned the 3.6 and currently own the 4.2. I for one am impressed with what samsung has done with this. Its a win for them in my book.
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http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-player-ii-spotted-in-benchmarks-20130430/
Looks like Samsung already made a successor to the Galaxy Player but it seems that the demand for these devices isn't that large (even though 5" is perfect)
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Murphy's Law indicates that if I lose my cool and opt for a Nexus 7 'consolation prize', Samsung will release a dream device the next day
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but lets face the truth, there is no way samsung is gonna make a ~200 media player thats as good as the N7.
Lets examine the specs:
Nexus 7 2013:
7” 1,920 by 1,200 (323ppi) screen
16 GB storage
1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro
2GB RAM
5-megapixel primary camera
3,950mAh
Price: 230
Galaxy player 5:
5” 480 by800 screen
8 GB storage
1GHz singe-core Hummingbird
0.5GB RAM
3-megapixel primary camera
2,500 mAh
Price: 220
iurnait said:
but lets face the truth, there is no way samsung is gonna make a ~200 media player thats as good as the N7.
Lets examine the specs:
Nexus 7 2013:
7” 1,920 by 1,200 (323ppi) screen
16 GB storage
1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro
2GB RAM
5-megapixel primary camera
3,950mAh
Price: 230
Galaxy player 5:
5” 480 by800 screen
8 GB storage
1GHz singe-core Hummingbird
0.5GB RAM
3-megapixel primary camera
2,500 mAh
Price: 220
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Yep but that's considering Google is selling the nexus 7 at cost. Also the SGP got released nearly 2 years ago, give it a break on the specs sheet, Lool. It's not even comparable.
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My OCD Googling habit fot "YP-GI2" shows that a bunch of buzz has sprung up in the last 24 hours regarding a device dubbed the Galaxy 070. I look forward to the weighing in of forum heavyweights on the matter ...
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My OCD Googling habit fot "YP-GI2" shows that a bunch of buzz has sprung up in the last 24 hours regarding a device dubbed the Galaxy 070. I look forward to the weighing in of forum heavyweights on the matter ...
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Awesome hearing this. I was considering buying a nexus7. But might not now lol
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Awesome hearing this. I was considering buying a nexus7. But might not now lol
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Well, the rumor mill identifies it as possibly a "home phone", but if it's got good sound and the right price, they could call it the Galaxy Nosehair Trimmer and I'd still get it
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Well, the rumor mill identifies it as possibly a "home phone", but if it's got good sound and the right price, they could call it the Galaxy Nosehair Trimmer and I'd still get it
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Home phone is fine. Since that's what I use my galaxy player as. A wifi phone would be better lol
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Lol true. It's funny because most people that see me using mine(I use it as a wifi phone with Google voice and groove ip) think its an ACTUAL phone. I have owned the 3.6 and currently own the 4.2. I for one am impressed with what samsung has done with this. Its a win for them in my book.
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Same here! I'm with the OP! I'm still glad to know there are a lot of people out there that share my opinion on the need for an updated Player (sans phone/plan)!
I'm thinking about getting one, to replace an Atrix HD and Nexus 7 3G 2012.
The concept sound cool, and the price is nice on contract, I'm just wondering how people feel about the execution after some weeks of ownership.
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I'm thinking about getting one, to replace an Atrix HD and Nexus 7 3G 2012.
The concept sound cool, and the price is nice on contract, I'm just wondering how people feel about the execution after some weeks of ownership.
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If you are in need of a new phone and new tablet the padfone X can be a good option. Just remember the tablet does not work without the phone attached to it. Some see this a blessing, others a curse. Personally I like the setup, I do not have to sync two separate devices and the cost is great. Others need to have have two separate devices that can each operate on its own.
The phone part of the Padfone X works just fine by itself and is high quality. Call quality is good, people do not realize they are on speakerphone even when the phone is docked into the pad.
The pad is a little on the heavy side and with its 1inch bezel looks somewhat old school, but what it lacks in form it makes up in function. It works great as a tablet. Both the screen on phone and pad are vibrant and responsive. I have not ran across any phone apps that do not work well while in the tablet mode. You can make calls and text while the phone is docked. Some reviewers have complained about some apps not transitioning well when the phone is being docked or undocked. This has not been really been an issue for me as I usually do not need app to transfer. I usually just close an app then remove the phone. The call and text apps seem to transition well.
The slot which holds the phone into the pad protudes from the back a bit. This a slight annoyance as the pad is a little unstable sitting flat on a flat surface. But the phone is held real securely in the pad while at the same time being easy the insert or remove.
The camera is pretty sweet. It work fast and the color is good.
The speaker volume is adequate but I would liked just a bit louder. That being said, I have yet to install a volume booster.
If someone was needing only a phone, perhaps another high-end phone would be a better option. If someone is in the market for both a tablet and phone, I would give the Padphone X a good look.
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I'm thinking about getting one, to replace an Atrix HD and Nexus 7 3G 2012.
The concept sound cool, and the price is nice on contract, I'm just wondering how people feel about the execution after some weeks of ownership.
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So far, I am loving mine. My only concern is it currently does not work with ART. This could mean no Android L for us, but the ART is fairly new and I am sure ASUS will update their system apps to work with the new runtime. Other than that, its fantastic. Android wear support, fast, decent storage, SD card slot, amazing battery life with the dock. I bought this a bit impulsively, but I do not regret it in the least. The design of both the phone and dock are a bit on the bland side, but they are in no way ugly, and the displays are impressive, so they look nice. Really, it comes down to you. Go to an AT&T store and try one on display.
It's new so root and rom options are still limited.
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What are the rom options?
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None, for now.
But there's a xda forum and it's out in the US so I think there will be choices later, unlike previous PadFones which are stuck to stock roms.
Should i keep it?
Well, I've had this phone almost 12 days...soon is last call to return it if I don't want it.
The main selling point was the tablet mode. My stepson broke my Android tablet and my Windows PC tablet was less functional than my HTC One m7. I frequently use Office 365 sharepoint, Ring Central, Google Voice, and telephone. Bigger screen with functional app makes the day much nicer.
And the hardware and camera seemed comparable.
I don't like the "glitchieness" I've run into running different default messaging apps and launchers. I also get a lag with multiple processes running, even when limiting processes in developer options and when using a task killer.
I also like to try different roms and change the appearance a lot. I don't know how to contribute to this much besides donation.
So I'm kinda thinking about a big screen phone like a Note or the LG Curve...whichever has more developer interest.
Anybody regret their purchase or would choose a different phone is they were me?
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Well, I've had this phone almost 12 days...soon is last call to return it if I don't want it.
The main selling point was the tablet mode. My stepson broke my Android tablet and my Windows PC tablet was less functional than my HTC One m7. I frequently use Office 365 sharepoint, Ring Central, Google Voice, and telephone. Bigger screen with functional app makes the day much nicer.
And the hardware and camera seemed comparable.
I don't like the "glitchieness" I've run into running different default messaging apps and launchers. I also get a lag with multiple processes running, even when limiting processes in developer options and when using a task killer.
I also like to try different roms and change the appearance a lot. I don't know how to contribute to this much besides donation.
So I'm kinda thinking about a big screen phone like a Note or the LG Curve...whichever has more developer interest.
Anybody regret their purchase or would choose a different phone is they were me?
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I do not regret my decision to keep the Padfone X but it meets my needs. My Padfone does not have the glitchiness you have encountered.
Your needs seem to be more demanding and perhaps a separate phone and tablet are in order.
On a related note, I have rarely regretted my decision after returning an item.
Well, late last night I got bored and got adventurous. I wiped the phone, salt super su, installed TWRP. I have actually not had a problem this time. It's running apex launcher, thumb keyboard, some widgets and live wallpaper and its working fine. Knock on wood.
The only thing I did different this time was installing the recovery and I didn't go into the developer settings and turn the animation of.
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Whenever I dictate text, and any app, if a word is underlined and I tap it to pick a different word, whatever app I am using crashes.
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And oh boy... the frustration of dictating a whole work email, & then forgetting and the thing crashing and having to start all over again!
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zackzuse said:
And oh boy... the frustration of dictating a whole work email, & then forgetting and the thing crashing and having to start all over again!
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Give it about another week before updates start rolling out, ASUS has been pretty good with updates and addressing glitches with previous devices.
8125Omnimax said:
Give it about another week before updates start rolling out, ASUS has been pretty good with updates and addressing glitches with previous devices.
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Received my Padfone S and it downloaded 3 updates already
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hpcorona said:
Received my Padfone S and it downloaded 3 updates already
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How is your Padfone S going? I'm looking to get that model specifically over the X. Basically, of what I've heard of the phone, at best it's above average, and at worst, still just above average, haha. So, fairly mediocre in its reviews. Do you find it to be the same?
dareiflash said:
How is your Padfone S going? I'm looking to get that model specifically over the X. Basically, of what I've heard of the phone, at best it's above average, and at worst, still just above average, haha. So, fairly mediocre in its reviews. Do you find it to be the same?
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To be honest... it does have some issues but updates are being pushed very fast... today i received a 250 mb update.
Sometimes the home button doesnt responds for a few seconds, and stuff like that.
But i am very satisfied with it. My battery combined with the station is great on moderate to lot of usage... i watched 6 twitch dota 2 matches over 4g on the phone alone, then watched 3 more on wifi with tablet mode... 24 hours later the phone alone had still 30%, and that felt great.
The phone is fast almost 99% of the time, and at least the camera is a big upgrade for me (had a Moto X).
Tablet mode is great but beware, the phone does become a little loose and touch sensitivity is totally lost on some areas of the screen, so you must keep ensuring that the phone is properly in place if you move a lot. Just ensure the phone in proper place and it works great.
So far, i am very happy with the phone... i usually buy flagships (htc one, moto x) and right now i dont want to use another, i love this one.
Several glitches have been resolved so i am counting on ASUS to fix the rest.
Hope this helps.
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Finally talked my wife into getting a smartphone. She didn't like using my phone and protested saying she would hate a smartphone. To complicated and hard to understand. I bought her the Padfone X. Started her off on the tablet which made the transition to the phone easier for her to understand. She hasn't put the thing down since. She loves it and shows it off to everyone. Everyone we have shown it to wants one. It's not a perfect device but it is a long way from being a crappy device. I would happily recommend this device.
just ordered mine off Amazon for $99
sounds like a good buy to me, even if the Station turns out to be crap