Itian A6 Wireless Charger - Charging time - G3 Accessories

I finally made the change to a QI enabled back cover to get some wireless charging on my LG G3. I bought the Itian A6 on Amazon from the seller Docooler. I like it but I have a huge complaint and I want to know if it is normal. I understood going into it that the charging would be a bit slower but the times I've charged the LG G3 from 5%, it took 4+ hours to charge to 100%. This seems really excessive. Wired charging would usually take me about 2 hours to fully charge from 5%. Do I have a defective charger or is the super long time it takes to charge wireless really how long it's suppose to take? Please give your feedback and opinions, thanks.

Bueller? There has to be some input people can give, even if it's not from the same wireless charger.

I use PMA and not Qi because I have the AT&T model G3, but I've noticed similar results sometimes. Typically I only put it on the wireless charger while sleeping so I don't notice the charging time, but there was once where I charged while awake and noticed it took a bit longer. Make sure its in the best contact position.
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AllstarE4 said:
I use PMA and not Qi because I have the AT&T model G3, but I've noticed similar results sometimes. Typically I only put it on the wireless charger while sleeping so I don't notice the charging time, but there was once where I charged while awake and noticed it took a bit longer. Make sure its in the best contact position.
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Thanks for your response. My wireless charging has been getting worse. The last two nights I've charged over night, it got a good 6-8 hours and it still wasn't fully charged and the phone was pretty hot. I always place the phone smack in the middle of the charger making sure it's centered.

Does it have a magnet to center it? The PMA charger centers the phone so that you have optimal charging and I don't think I've ever noticed heat issues.
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AllstarE4 said:
I use PMA and not Qi because I have the AT&T model G3, but I've noticed similar results sometimes. Typically I only put it on the wireless charger while sleeping so I don't notice the charging time, but there was once where I charged while awake and noticed it took a bit longer. Make sure its in the best contact position.
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No, there is no magnet but the charger is slim enough to know you got it centered. I tried to wireless charge without having the phone on to see if there maybe was an app that was keeping it from charging faster but apparently the phone needs to be on to do wireless charging. It automatically turns on when I put it on the wireless charger. The charging has just got worse on the wireless charger. It charges fine wired. Wonder if it may be the charger or the QI replacement cover...

Maybe try a different charger. If I had Qi I could probably help more. Maybe someone with Qi will chime in.
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Absolutely normal...
WIRED you are using a 1.8A charger... when you connect this same charger or a 2A to the QI pad, you get only 800mha to 1A to charge via wireless (because of loss, thats why you get the heat)
ALL QI charging pads are like that, there is no top tier, more expensive QI pad that will charge above 1A, the tech just doesnt work like that
The second generation of wireless chargers are coming and they can go way beyond that and even charge from more then a few inches....

Pacote-san said:
Absolutely normal...
WIRED you are using a 1.8A charger... when you connect this same charger or a 2A to the QI pad, you get only 800mha to 1A to charge via wireless (because of loss, thats why you get the heat)
ALL QI charging pads are like that, there is no top tier, more expensive QI pad that will charge above 1A, the tech just doesnt work like that
The second generation of wireless chargers are coming and they can go way beyond that and even charge from more then a few inches....
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Are you saying the 4+ hour charging time to full is normal or the 6-8 hour charging time? I read from other people that in general they noticed that charge time on the wireless charger was only a bit longer from wired which is why the 4+ hour charging time surprised me. I am thinking of exchanging the charger to see if it makes any difference.

If you check the people using wired charging, you see they take about 2 hours to charge 5% to 100%
and this is using almost 2A
so charging limited to 800mha to 1A it would take double the time (more or less e to 4 hours)

Thats the reason why i still use wire charger. I read a lot about that and many posts mentored same charging time as you did and sounds ok.
You can see that your wire charger have output 1.8A to charge and the most of wireless chargers have real output of 0.8. With this calculation, more then 2 times slower is complete normal.

I never timed my wireless charging until last night. It charged from 1% to full in under 3hrs. This is with the Duracell Powermat and not Qi. That may be the difference. Either way, I've been satisfied with the powermat.
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Something internally probably limits all QI chargers to a certain amperage. My Tylt Vu takes about the same amount of time to go from 0 to 100. The technology is still in its infancy stage. I'd recommend using it as an overnight charger.

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Car chargers

Has anyone tested different chargers on the evo 3d yet? If so, what's the best/fastest charger to get...
$4.60 shipped with Amazon Prime. I hope it will work! Just ordered one.
Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger - SELECT Amazon from the seller options on the right.
The chargers from Sprint give me the highest ma charge on battery monitor widget out of any other charger from ebay to Walmart
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I use the Motorola car charger from Amazon. Works great and charges fast.
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$4.60 shipped with Amazon Prime. I hope it will work! Just ordered one.
Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Rapid Rate Charger - SELECT Amazon from the seller options on the right.
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I have used these for the Optimus, EVO Shift and EVO 4G and they work great. However it did not work for the EVO 3D. I need to try it with the one in my other car to determine whether the charger went bad or they don't work.
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Anyone having trouble with battery charging?
I will charge over night and battery will be around 97-99% but won't make it to 100%.
While using my car charger, it won't stay at 100%, will drain while just texting/internet. It only drains down to 97% or so but It's annoying because my EVO 4G would stay at 100% while on car charger.
Should I try to get another battery or is it supposed do to that with trickle charge/discharge?
I'm going to Sprint and trying one of the official car chargers.
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I have used these for the Optimus, EVO Shift and EVO 4G and they work great. However it did not work for the EVO 3D. I need to try it with the one in my other car to determine whether the charger went bad or they don't work.
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motorola car chargers are a bit iffy. personally, i wouldnt use them because ive seen them ruin other manufactures phones. its not an immediate thing, but after prolonged use charging ports go bad. theyve even had to put out special chargers because their normal ones werent compatible with their own devices (the i576 comes to mind)
I bought this one. http://www.amazon.com/MicroUSB-Char...UJRQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1309792315&sr=8-4
Its the OEM HTC one for the thunderbolt. It has two USB ports and both charge at 1000ma, so you could charge two evos at once plus it works with the iGrip car mount. Oh yeah and you can plug in any USB cable you want to charge any phone.
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Who cares if says 98%, 99% or even 100% it's not that big of a deal. at least to most.
As for the chargers, I will not use any of these cheap crappy units being sold on Ebay and other sites. My son bought the 4G when it was first released and couldn't be found any where. He ordered the extra batteries, 110 charger, 12 volt charger, screen protector for something like $2.99 including shipping ( yes, I am joking on the price, no need to correct me, just get the idea we are talking cheap crap here ) I told him that I wouldn't trust the chargers. I didn't know but he left the phone on the 12volt charger in my F350 dually while we did the grocery shopping at WalMart. Probably gone 30-45 min at the most. Came out to the truck and the cab was filled with smoke and the charger was so hot you couldn't hold it. Took my shirt off and ripped the charger out of the socket. It had started to melt. Scares me to think what would have happened if we were at the movies instead of WalMart. He contacted the seller about the problem and they sent him another crappy 12 volt charger, Yeah right!!!!! The cheap batteries lasted ok, but I sure wouldn't use the cheap chargers. I have the one at Sprint that also has a USB socket on it so I can charge 2 phones at the same time. Radio Shack also sells some decent 12 volt chargers, but be real careful with the Ebay crap. If you do risk it you better make sure you got your insurance premiums paid up to date.
imex99 said:
Anyone having trouble with battery charging?
I will charge over night and battery will be around 97-99% but won't make it to 100%.
While using my car charger, it won't stay at 100%, will drain while just texting/internet. It only drains down to 97% or so but It's annoying because my EVO 4G would stay at 100% while on car charger.
Should I try to get another battery or is it supposed do to that with trickle charge/discharge?
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That's how it works. If you watched your phone all night long, you'd notice it get to 100%, and then drop down to 99 a few minutes later. One day, if you're lucky, it'll be at 100%. Mine was this morning. It charges to 100, then lets itself discharge to 95% or so, then back up to 100, over and over. It also charges super slowly above 90%, not sure why, but I assume it's to "Fill" the battery up as much as possible. Also, if you do some research on battery charging, you'll find out that the closer a battery is to full, the slower it charges. (IIRC 66% of the remaining battery life per charge period. So 0-66% in the same time it takes to go from 66-88.4, 88.4 to 96, 96-98.6, 98.6-99.5, etc.. But I learned this back in High School, and can't find any thing on the internet to support it in my quick 10 min fact search... Lol)
The OG Evo did the same thing kinda, but didn't display it correctly, and it was the cause of the "Dropping 5% in the first minute of use" problem. The phone would charge to 100%, and then discharge to 95%, and stay there, but the battery icon would say 100% until you unplugged it. Then the system would check the battery, realize it was really at 95%, and change the display number.
The Evo 3D just tells it how it is, in real time.

Xperia cradle and 10% battery issue

Hello
For the first time I let my XTZ drop below 40% battery.
I chargy only with the Sony's cradle since I don't really carry it around.
I get to putting it on charge when it reached 10% battery, but few secconds after it showed charge animation a pop up appeared that battery is low and should be charged. This kept showing every few secconds.
It looked as the charger contacts where not making good connection. So I tried moving it around, checked the contact pins and the lever if it pulls them out and springs where working. It all seamed to work ok. It was late and I had it wet 3-4 hours ago so I just left it off the dock till morning.
When I got up I tried to put it to charge again, but same buggy pop up started to appear...
Now I left to work, set sound off and left it to charge with hopes above 10% it will be ok...
Anyone else experienced this?
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Well I have my problem solved lol.
As engineer I don't usually read everything about the spec...
So the charger I used was rated at 2A, industrial quality mind you, while the cradle is actually rated at 1.8A input and 1.8a output...
I tought the cradle is just two wires and some weights, but seems to be more than this.
Anyway the XTZ started to charge fine with the Sony charger at 1.5A.
The tablet also charges faster with the 2A charger, but only from the USB.
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Rozamar said:
Well I have my problem solved lol.
As engineer I don't usually read everything about the spec...
So the charger I used was rated at 2A, industrial quality mind you, while the cradle is actually rated at 1.8A input and 1.8a output...
I tought the cradle is just two wires and some weights, but seems to be more than this.
Anyway the XTZ started to charge fine with the Sony charger at 1.5A.
The tablet also charges faster with the 2A charger, but only from the USB.
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I don't think it's the rating of the charger - I had just posted this in the "battery broken?" thread in this forum :
GretaLewd said:
Charged mine for a while this morning in the Sony dock with power on, wifi on, screen off. Like others, I use an iPad charger (2.1A).
The battery went from 11% to 55% in about 2 hours, so about 22% per hour - though I think it slows down as the % gets higher.
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I've been using an iPad charger for the last 6 weeks to charge my SXTZ either directly through the USB port or "indirectly" through the Sony docking cradle. I've had no problems - as you can see from the above quote.
By the way (not that it matters) I'm an engineer (electronic) too.

Qi charge charge speed

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F1...SX200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=41tsLyHzMvL&ref=plSrch
How fast does it charge?
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It says the output is 5V at 1A so it charges at 1A which is as fast are qi charges currently. Keep in mind that's limited by the best of your battery and what your phones will allow on the receiver side.
Much slower than the turbo charger. I've been using Qi chargers for a couple of years now and they're always slower than a plug-in charge. That said, it is very high on my list of must have features I look for when purchasing a new phone. If I drain the battery past 80% today I'll see if I can give you a %/hr charge; this morning I was down to about 91% and it took 15 minutes to reach 100%. The efficiency isn't 100% so you aren't going to get the rated power transfer you'd get with plug-in.
I'm using the Tylt Vu but also use a couple of others, I think one in an LG and another is the Nexus 5 chargers.
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Much slower than the turbo charger. I've been using Qi chargers for a couple of years now and they're always slower than a plug-in charge. That said, it is very high on my list of must have features I look for when purchasing a new phone. If I drain the battery past 80% today I'll see if I can give you a %/hr charge; this morning I was down to about 91% and it took 15 minutes to reach 100%. The efficiency isn't 100% so you aren't going to get the rated power transfer you'd get with plug-in.
I'm using the Tylt Vu but also use a couple of others, I think one in an LG and another is the Nexus 5 chargers.
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That's a given, I prefer qi most of the time because I don't like cables. It depends on how fast you need the phone charged. When I goto bed I use qi, if I'm out and need a quick boost I use the Qualcomm which charger.

Wireless Charger That Actually Charges All Night

My current wireless charger will charge my phone to 100% and then quit for the rest of the night, leaving my phone at around 95% when I wake up. Is there a better charger to remedy this?
I went back to a Kidigi wired charger to get around that. I rely on the clock feature of the dock, so that was a real turnoff for me.
Tylt Vu, 100% every morning.
Using the Incipio Ghost 100 from when I had my DNA. Works perfect.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LE6X5VU?keywords=qi charger&qid=1455841206&ref_=sr_1_11&sr=8-11
Ive been using it for over a year, always at 100% in the morning.
I've been using the Choe stadium charger I like it so much I got a second for the office.
Nokia DT-900.
Bonus is that this dock, which was originally around $60, can be found for about $15 on the third party market now...
what's wrong with the turbo charger that it shipped with?
buschris said:
what's wrong with the turbo charger that it shipped with?
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its not wireless
three west said:
Tylt Vu, 100% every morning.
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+1 for Tylt Vu
Also have the Spigen wireless charger that you have to use with your stock charger. It works great most of the time, but occasionally it'll stop working and needs to be unplugged/replugged back in.
no charger is "wireless". What I meant was, is your charging pad plugged to the stock turbo charger and stock cable?
I am using the EXILIENT CHARGING PLATE
SAME WITH ME BUT ON THE BRIGHT SIDE IT SAVES YOUR BATTERY FROM OVERCHARGING AND HEATING, moreover if you use quick charger with the charging plate you get full within 3 hours!!! ain't BAD.:good:
Another vote for the tylt vu. It technically stops charging, but my phone is always at 100% when I pick it up. It does turn off the charging light, but I am assuming that is to keep it from cooking a battery.
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bluefalcon13 said:
Another vote for the tylt vu. It technically stops charging, but my phone is always at 100% when I pick it up. It does turn off the charging light, but I am assuming that is to keep it from cooking a battery.
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I've settled on the Vu as well. It stops charging once the battery is full (a few mins after the phone registers 100%). If the battery dips back down to 99% during idle, it kicks back on and tops the battery off back to 100% and turns off again.
The Vu is my fav charging stand because it doesn't have bright, obnoxious charging LED indicators. Just a nice dim green LED that doesn't light up my entire room at night.
amanamarsingh said:
IT SAVES YOUR BATTERY FROM OVERCHARGING AND HEATING
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The charging rate is controlled by the handset, not by the charger, so it is not possible to "overcharge" your battery.
It is also extremely unlikely that any increase in temperature from charging will cause any deleterious effect to the battery - this will have been taken into account as part of the design of the charging circuit.
The TYLT VU is good, but it's $50.
The Nokia DT-900 is just as good a charger, and on the third party market it's now about $15.
Your choice...but I can think of other things to do with $35 than give it to TYLT.
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Nokia DT-900.
Bonus is that this dock, which was originally around $60, can be found for about $15 on the third party market now...
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That's the charger I use and it's great
It is not the wireless charger stops charging. It's the software in the phone that shuts off the charging.
Philip said:
The charging rate is controlled by the handset, not by the charger, so it is not possible to "overcharge" your battery.
It is also extremely unlikely that any increase in temperature from charging will cause any deleterious effect to the battery - this will have been taken into account as part of the design of the charging circuit.
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Agreeable for nexus 6 which has inherent wireless charging inbuilt, I am using an external wireless case for my iPhone 5s can you please hint on this aspect also.
Thanks in anticipation.
Colonel Singh
amanamarsingh said:
Agreeable for nexus 6 which has inherent wireless charging inbuilt, I am using an external wireless case for my iPhone 5s can you please hint on this aspect also.
Thanks in anticipation.
Colonel Singh
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Sorry - I know nothing (and nor do I want to know anything!) about iPhones.
However, as a general rule, charging is normally managed by the handset, not by the charger.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the LG G6 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I have used the charger that came with it (since it was the only USB-C cable I had at the time) and it charged amazingly fast. I bought a Wireless charger as well which is also amazingly fast. It's my first wireless charging experience and I was told it trickle charges so it would be much slower than charging from the cable, but I barely notice a difference in speed at all. I keep checking the phone what seems like every couple of minutes if not seconds and the % has increased by a lot more than I would have imagined. I thought wireless charging to be pointless and a who-cares ordeal, but not that I have experienced it... I don't think I will go back to a device without it (not for a phone at least). I'm not sure if any health issues can be there from radiation, but I'm almost dead anyway (well... I have about 50 years to go I guess) so I don't really care, lol.
For those wondering, I went with the CHOETECH Qi Model T513 wireless charger. Input: DC5V/2A (Max) Output: 7.5W which I purchased from Amazon for only $19.95. That was 50% off at the time I purchased it, but that was only a few days ago so you might want to check on it.
Really? I feel my g6 charges way slower then my S7 edge. I still have it but I'm gonna test this tomorrow.
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chinchillables said:
I have used the charger that came with it (since it was the only USB-C cable I had at the time) and it charged amazingly fast. I bought a Wireless charger as well which is also amazingly fast. It's my first wireless charging experience and I was told it trickle charges so it would be much slower than charging from the cable, but I barely notice a difference in speed at all. I keep checking the phone what seems like every couple of minutes if not seconds and the % has increased by a lot more than I would have imagined. I thought wireless charging to be pointless and a who-cares ordeal, but not that I have experienced it... I don't think I will go back to a device without it (not for a phone at least). I'm not sure if any health issues can be there from radiation, but I'm almost dead anyway (well... I have about 50 years to go I guess) so I don't really care, lol.
For those wondering, I went with the CHOETECH Qi Model T513 wireless charger. Input: DC5V/2A (Max) Output: 7.5W which I purchased from Amazon for only $19.95. That was 50% off at the time I purchased it, but that was only a few days ago so you might want to check on it.
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Really? I feel my g6 charges way slower then my S7 edge. I still have it but I'm gonna test this tomorrow.
Went and picked up this bad boy today. LS variant. Out of the box, had 41%. Using my car charger Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0(yes 2.0) and the included USB C, it charged to 70% in the 20 minute drive back to my house. For using the old QC tech, still charged amazingly fast. I have a QC3.0 39W wall charger that got delivered this afternoon. Will wait til this baby dies and charge her up with that and will report back.
Ive noticed when using a QC 3.0 charger and cable doesnt seem like the g6 is actually charging faster. Its suppose to support QC but its not.
I'm finding this charges a lot slower than my S7 Edge as well. Using the provided cable and charger it takes about 2.5 hours to go from 5% to full which is generally fine, but there isn't a burst and then trickle. I appreciated being able to plug my phone in for a short time when it was low and top it up enough to go out and not worry about it dying. Can't really do that with this one.
I had a power brick laying around and says qualcomm 2.0 and it charge`s really fast, like 1% of battery every min. , but yes with the stock charger brick takes forever to charge.
Using a Xiaomi USB C charger (45W) which supports both UPD 2.0 and QC 3.0, my phone charged very fast.
Mine charges super fast with the supplied charger. I plugged in with 11% yesterday and hit 50% in like 25 minutes.
quick charging is convenient and all, but is there a way to revert to normal charging? I don't want to accelerate my cycles. Thanks.
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quick charging is convenient and all, but is there a way to revert to normal charging? I don't want to accelerate my cycles. Thanks.
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Use a non-QC charger.
thanks. I'll do that, I have to get extra cables anyway. Although I was wondering if there was a way to hack it phone-wise.
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sharoon01 said:
I'm finding this charges a lot slower than my S7 Edge as well. Using the provided cable and charger it takes about 2.5 hours to go from 5% to full which is generally fine, but there isn't a burst and then trickle. I appreciated being able to plug my phone in for a short time when it was low and top it up enough to go out and not worry about it dying. Can't really do that with this one.
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the charger that comes with the device doesn't support QC3, it's a QC2 charger.
so, getting a QC3 charger would defiantly decrease the charging time :good:
abdullahziad said:
the charger that comes with the device doesn't support QC3, it's a QC2 charger.
so, getting a QC3 charger would defiantly decrease the charging time :good:
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I'm pretty sure the supplies charger is QC3.
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I'm pretty sure the supplies charger is QC3.
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Silly question - is there an easy way to tell if a charger is QC2 or QC3?
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Silly question - is there an easy way to tell if a charger is QC2 or QC3?
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Look to the charger specification, if it supports only 5v and 9v then is QC2. QC3 scales on various voltage between 5 and 12 volts.
And yes, the provided charger is QC2, probably the same Found with the G5.
Yeah I take back what I said. The supplied charger does appear to "only" be QC 3. It still seems faster then QC2 though. Maybe it's just in my head. It works for my needs though, I can get almost 50% in like 20.
Charge in airplane mode when you can. When you have no worries of anyone calling or texting. With wifi off as well you'll see a decent jump in fast charging.
purchased by phone a couple of days back and it charged from 5% to 100% in approx 1.40 mins with the stock QC 2.0. I'm damn impressed....
Let me Ask y'all something. Coming from a LG G4 and just Charging My Batteries by a OEM Battery Charger I got 2HRs More of SOT. When I charge via the USB Quick Charger I got the same 3HRs as usual. So I got 5 while charging Slower then the SO-Called Quick Charging. To my understanding Batteries are meant to Slow-Charge rather then Fast

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