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Hi @all,
until the Xperia P got certified at ptcrb and now some got it unpacked I wanted to know if somebody could provide the firmware as a ftf file?!
I don't think anyone dumped it yet. Sony doesn't give review units to anyone who asks, you know.
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What does this have to do with Xperia S?
There is no Xperia P Forum so I have to post it on Xperia S.
Like some older Post to the Xperia S were postet in the Xperia Arc forum.
That´s the reason.
This came little late, I had a prototype in hand.
Ahhh right that's cool. What's the xperia p like man? Better than the S?
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Game-Modo said:
Ahhh right that's cool. What's the xperia p like man? Better than the S?
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For some reason it was lighter than I expected.
I felt screen was nicer than S (it was brighter with more vibrant colors), but I didn't have both at the same time to compare.
Battery life was OK.
This was prototype and crashing as the software wasn't the retail version but just test one.
Front Camera is VGA but 1.3 on S isn't impressive either.
Things I like:
It fits better in hand rather being bulkier like S.
Screen was nice
Uni-body is really nice
No stupid Flap is totally a plus+++
I loved the power button on the right, need to get used to it but once you do..it makes the whole sense in the world.
Bottom part under transparent strip could have been smaller, at least like S. and that part in this model was plastic for some reason. I thought the whole body is aluminum?
I think 4" size screen is perfect.
Quadrant score I got was about 2200
Those three buttons are on the transparent strip which may be cool. At least they are more visible where they are.
And this model didn't have yellow tint issue and also it was Sony Ericsson. I think more of an earlier built.
Again, uni-body with no flap was awesome and very nice. Phone looks sexy and even sexier than all the videos I had seen before have the actual Xperia P.
Didn't like the speaker...it sounded weird.
anyone here with access to EMMA? Didn't see any Lt26a but there is Lt22i and Lt22a listed.
I hope these info becomes hand .
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Didn't like the speaker...it sounded weird.
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It's from Sony and it's got weird speakers?!
Maybe because it's a prototype version.
neofactor.is3 said:
It's from Sony and it's got weird speakers?!
Maybe because it's a prototype version.
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Maybe you should have read couple post above my last post
I owned recently Sony high end laptop Z series and speaker is as bad as the early production in 90s.
Lets hope retail version is better.
i have the chinese version of the LT22i(Xperia P), it went on sale here in China on April 29th, can anyone guide me how to do it, googling didn't get me far, i would love to provide the ROM for you guys,
That would be awesome if you could provide the firmware...
Slightly off topic, but do we think there will be an Xperia P forum here? and will it get much Dev love?
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Slightly off topic, but do we think there will be an Xperia P forum here? and will it get much Dev love?
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That is what has stopped me to pre-order them. I believe processor chipset is different and not sure if the Dev, would start working on it.
As far as the forum for Xperia P, there should be one very soon..maybe they are not aware of release in China.
Whats weird is that if phone has gone for sale in China why I don't see in on eBay...usually everything from China goes on there fast.
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That is what has stopped me to pre-order them. I believe processor chipset is different and not sure if the Dev, would start working on it.
As far as the forum for Xperia P, there should be one very soon..maybe they are not aware of release in China.
Whats weird is that if phone has gone for sale in China why I don't see in on eBay...usually everything from China goes on there fast.
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It just went on sale on the 29th. The firmware sucks as google service is banned from the handset. We are stuck with Baidu and no twitter or YouTube or google play
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anyone here with access to EMMA? Didn't see any Lt26a but there is Lt22i and Lt22a listed.
I hope these info becomes hand .
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i know a few ppl with EMMA access but doesnt it require the device in hand to download the blob_fs?
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i know a few ppl with EMMA access but doesnt it require the device in hand to download the blob_fs?
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First off, I am total n00b when it comes to these stuff. in EMMA there is a section where says Download services and has a long list of devices. I don't see any Lt26a...I don't need to have any devices connected for looking at the list.
These might be totally wrong, but there are some interesting number for later headsets. Only God know what is true with Sony.
Nimche said:
That is what has stopped me to pre-order them. I believe processor chipset is different and not sure if the Dev, would start working on it.
As far as the forum for Xperia P, there should be one very soon..maybe they are not aware of release in China.
Whats weird is that if phone has gone for sale in China why I don't see in on eBay...usually everything from China goes on there fast.
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If I had the money to buy one, I would definitely want to start developing for Xperia P, Xperia U, Xperia Ion or Xperia Sola when they will be released by Sony
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If I had the money to buy one, I would definitely want to start developing for Xperia P, Xperia U, Xperia Ion or Xperia Sola when they will be released by Sony
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hehe... same here...
if they release Xperia P soon here in India my Team UtterChoas co-developer Napstar is VERY MUCH interested in developing for that device
though i am personally waiting for flagship for 2H 2012, hayabusa/mint whatever
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It depends on which access level you have.
Some can only download FW with connected devices and higher levels can download without a device connected to EMMA.
Crash at video record
Hello! The question to the owner sony xperia p - whether exists at record of video a crash? (sorry for my english - google translate) =)
P\S
Look for video on youtube - "Xperia P 1080p indoor.mp4"
There a strange sound on video
Hey guys....so yesterday the Pc companion app for xperia phones recieved an update ....and the good news is that now it shows "update phone/tablet"
This definitely means that now the app also supports tablets and we may even recieve jellybean through the PC companion.......
Who knows we may get the update this month...:good::good:
UPDATE:It seems the only tablet supported is the Xperia tablet Z
We are supposed to get the update this month. Although i think ours will be OTA.
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Hey guys....so yesterday the Pc companion app for xperia phones recieved an update ....and the good news is that now it shows "update phone/tablet"
This definitely means that now the app also supports tablets and we may even recieve jellybean through the PC companion.......
Who knows we may get the update this month...:good::good:
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What is the new version of Companion? And is there Sony Tablet S?
The companion version is 2.1..download from sony website.....also it seems tablet s is not supported......can anybody check for xperia tablet s
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The companion version is 2.1..download from sony website.....also it seems tablet s is not supported......can anybody check for xperia tablet s
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Ok. It seems there is Xperia Tablet, but unfortunately there is no Tablet S. So, lets hope that Tablet S will receive update traditionally by air.
I'm on the latest version of PC Companion, but no mention of a tablet?
In Sony Update Service you can find a new category (Tablet) but only Xperia Tablet Z appears there... no luck for us!
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The companion version is 2.1..download from sony website.....also it seems tablet s is not supported......can anybody check for xperia tablet s
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I just tried with xperia tablet s, and pc companion says "Pc Companion was not able to connect the phone/tablet"
they care more about releasing jelybean on tablet that is't even being sold yet then xperia tablet s or 1 year old tablet s.
This will certainly make brand loyal customers abonden sony.
Thats typically Sony allways thinking ahead..
i'm sure they still have love for us we just have to be patient.
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In Sony Update Service you can find a new category (Tablet) but only Xperia Tablet Z appears there... no luck for us!
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this is stupid,..tablet z has not even properly released.......What is this sony thinking??
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I'm on the latest version of PC Companion, but no mention of a tablet?
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i uploaded a screenshot.....check it out
Confirmed. Also using sony updater service it comes up with Xperia Z under tablet. This confirms that Xperia Z is made by Sony Mobile. Where as we with S1 and XS are stuck with stupid Sony! lol
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Confirmed. Also using sony updater service it comes up with Xperia Z under tablet. This confirms that Xperia Z is made by Sony Mobile. Where as we with S1 and XS are stuck with stupid Sony! lol
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That's so true and sad! They put all their efforts and hard work to PS4 now!
So nothing today either i guess, not suprised sony more bussy with live stream tonight anyway.
Just give it time, the update will come to fruition soon. At least we can expect it to.be.bug free.
i gave up my love for sony...........sony no more.........although ps4 all the way....
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i gave up my love for sony...........sony no more.........although ps4 all the way....
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Will most likely buy also cous microsoft just keep screwing with customers and dead rings altough ps3 also has them its not as common
It seems Sony is playing the same strategy with PS4. Just lost 2 hours of my life to see a controller, specs that were out for some time and a bunch of trailers or real-time play without even a glimpse of the actual console. I don't know if the idea is to wreck the whole company or if they are just that stupid to advertise something as mind-blowing and then all they serve is disappointment. What a shame for such a great company.
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It seems Sony is playing the same strategy with PS4. Just lost 2 hours of my life to see a controller, specs that were out for some time and a bunch of trailers or real-time play without even a glimpse of the actual console. I don't know if the idea is to wreck the whole company or if they are just that stupid to advertise something as mind-blowing and then all they serve is disappointment. What a shame for such a great company.
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Only Sony Mobile and the Camera department are doing something good...
hey! Looking to buy the S Tablet in the next few days but I am not seeing a lot of DEV for it. Are there any ROMS for it and is there a standard root process for it? The tablet looks pretty nice but I wanna make sure I can do the things I have done with previous tablets
i don't think anyone would advice you to buy tablet s right now not even the xperia tablet s, probably not the xperia tablet z either.
Their lot issues atm, and sony is awfully silent.
nope.. we don't have any rom.. only Root on ICS.. and some minor tweaks!
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i don't think anyone would advice you to buy tablet s right now not even the xperia tablet s, probably not the xperia tablet z either.
Their lot issues atm, and sony is awfully silent.
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well that sucks cause it looks right nice. What kinda of issues are there? I have heard about the WIFI sleep issue but heard there was an OTA for that
I dont even know if I am in the right thread. Is this the Sony S witht he quad core 1.4?
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well that sucks cause it looks right nice. What kinda of issues are there? I have heard about the WIFI sleep issue but heard there was an OTA for that
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shutdown issues especialy and the fact that sony is slacking a lot on jelly bean for this tablet.
the tablet s is not even known if it will get it, the xperia tablet s would get in february theor not any news yet.
Been promised some tough by sony community manager and some one from belgium.
thanks for your help! I decided on the ASUS TF300t. I has the quadcore 1.2. I do like the size and shape of the sony more but figured i would go with something that, right now, appears to have a little more time with the DEV's.
thanks for your help though
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thanks for your help! I decided on the ASUS TF300t. I has the quadcore 1.2. I do like the size and shape of the sony more but figured i would go with something that, right now, appears to have a little more time with the DEV's.
thanks for your help though
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Probably should have waited for the Xperia Tablet Z...that one's developed by the Sony Mobile team (as opposed to the VAIO team that developed the Tablet S) and thus will have infinitely better support (Sony Mobile is really good with that stuff). And it's just a sweet tablet.
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Probably should have waited for the Xperia Tablet Z...that one's developed by the Sony Mobile team (as opposed to the VAIO team that developed the Tablet S) and thus will have infinitely better support (Sony Mobile is really good with that stuff). And it's just a sweet tablet.
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Personaly would gone for google nexus.
xperia z i really would't take anything atm from sony with current attitude they are having.
With asus you just have to be 100% sure you have no issues at all aka make sure you have no stuck dead pixels or just return it their quality control can be verry bad.
Hey guys,want your help in selecting a new phone.I am happy with my xperia Sola but its been a year since i bought this device...and yeah i am bored with it,so need a change now.I am confused between Samsung S3,S4 mini and Note 2.Which one should i go for?
My specs for the new phone:
Good dev support
Official CM support
Nice features
Faster GPU-yeah i play lots of games
Nice display(no pixelation etc)
Should be able to fit in my jeans' pocket
Also want to know,how good s3/note2 exynos soc is in comparison to S4 mini's qualcomm krait?
Hello akp.ajinkya,
I think you've heard about Nexus 4 and it's price offer , I think it's an awesome phone for that price and it has lots of development activity.
Just check in the store and like you can see the specs are awesome!
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_16_GB?id=nexus_4_16gb&hl=us
On the other hand, I have a friend that has the Galaxy S4 and it's awesome too, smooth as butter and has lots of development too. The price is higher but the specs are a bit better to.
http://www.samsung.com/es/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphones/galaxy/GT-I9505ZWAPHE-spec
Hope it helped!
tharkun2
XPERIA Z1 FTW
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What about the Sony Xperia Z? Now that is out the Z1, Z's price should be decreased. Also, if i am not wrong, there is already 4.3 android version for this device from the xperia z google edition.
Also, since you are a heavy player, why don't you take a look on Sony xperia ZU? Big screen great performance. Otherwise a good choice with less money is keeping your sola and get a nexus 7 2013
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Hello akp.ajinkya,
I think you've heard about Nexus 4 and it's price offer , I think it's an awesome phone for that price and it has lots of development activity.
Just check in the store and like you can see the specs are awesome!
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_16_GB?id=nexus_4_16gb&hl=us
On the other hand, I have a friend that has the Galaxy S4 and it's awesome too, smooth as butter and has lots of development too. The price is higher but the specs are a bit better to.
http://www.samsung.com/es/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphones/galaxy/GT-I9505ZWAPHE-spec
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tharkun2
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Yes bro..Who wouldn't want to get a Nexus phone ??They are the ones to receive all the updates first...Nexus 4 is also available in my country but the only downside is neither google nor its manufacturer LG provide after sales service here except for Nexus 7(2012) 'cause it is officially available via google store..Yeah my bad luck....Samsung is the only market player here,so I thought of buying new phone amongst S3,Note2 or S4 mini only.I also got hold of S4 once for two days(from my friend) and its a very good phone with some damn nice features at its side,but alas its not in my budget also doesn't fit my pocket,literally .But even then thanks for your suggestions:good:
AndroidNoob69 said:
XPERIA Z1 FTW
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DaRk-L0rD said:
What about the Sony Xperia Z? Now that is out the Z1, Z's price should be decreased. Also, if i am not wrong, there is already 4.3 android version for this device from the xperia z google edition.
Also, since you are a heavy player, why don't you take a look on Sony xperia ZU? Big screen great performance. Otherwise a good choice with less money is keeping your sola and get a nexus 7 2013
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I agree Z1 and z both have some very nice specs,but the only problem here is bootloader unlocking and as being an XDAian i like to tinker around with my phones which i also did with my Xperia Sola.I know there is a way to backup DRM keys also which i did for my xperia sola,but don't know how sony service guys recognised that bootloader has been unlocked once so had to shell out some cash to repair its earpiece,so no sony for me this time.
But even then thanks to you guys for the suggestions:good:
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I agree Z1 and z both have some very nice specs,but the only problem here is bootloader unlocking and as being an XDAian i like to tinker around with my phones which i also did with my Xperia Sola.I know there is a way to backup DRM keys also which i did for my xperia sola,but don't know how sony service guys recognised that bootloader has been unlocked once so had to shell out some cash to repair its earpiece,so no sony for me this time.
But even then thanks to you guys for the suggestions:good:
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I think bro that they recognized that the bootloader has been unlock because during the procedure of unlocking the bootloader you have to give on Sony's site your IMEI
Maybe i am wrong thought but i think it's the only way
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Yes bro..Who wouldn't want to get a Nexus phone ??They are the ones which receive all the updates first...Nexus 4 is also available in my country but the only downside is neither google nor its manufacturer LG provide after sales service here except for Nexus 7(2012) 'cause it is officially available via google store..Yeah my bad luck....Samsung is the only market player here,so I thought of buying new phone amongst S3,Note2 or S4 mini only.I also got hold of S4 once for two days(from my friend) and its a very good phone with some damn nice features at its side,but alas its not in my budget also doesn't fit my pocket,literally .But even then thanks for your suggestions:good:
I agree Z1 and z both have some very nice specs,but the only problem here is bootloader unlocking and as being an XDAian i like to tinker around with my phones which i also did with my Xperia Sola.I know there is a way to backup DRM keys also which i did for my xperia sola,but don't know how sony service guys recognised that bootloader has been unlocked once so had to shell out some cash to repair its earpiece,so no sony for me this time.
But even then thanks to you guys for the suggestions:good:
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Dont unlock bl! Unlocking is the last thing i want to do. I only do it on my old phones. I want xperia z1 but its outta my budget D:
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DaRk-L0rD said:
I think bro that they recognized that the bootloader has been unlock because during the procedure of unlocking the bootloader you have to give on Sony's site your IMEI
Maybe i am wrong thought but i think it's the only way
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Yes i agree with you that they may may have tracked it like this only,through their database containing IMEI of unlocked devices.But I doubt how could they be so sure that I have unlocked it 'cause i just requested an unlock code.How did they knew i have used it or not?
akp.ajinkya said:
Yes i agree with you that they may may have tracked it like this only,through their database containing IMEI of unlocked devices.But I doubt how could they be so sure that I have unlocked it 'cause i just requested an unlock code.How did they knew i have used it or not?
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Don't know mate how they can do that, sorry
AndroidNoob69 said:
Dont unlock bl! Unlocking is the last thing i want to do. I only do it on my old phones. I want xperia z1 but its outta my budget D:
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Yeah..but its the only way to install roms like CM,AOKP etc with custom kernels on any sony smartphones & tablets,as with the case of installing Jellybean on my xperia sola.
Whereas its not in the case of Samsung phones and 'cause of that i feel that samsung is more development friendly
Bought my Note 2 today.Thanx everyone
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good luck with you note 2
As the title says should I do it? Xperia Z5 Premium is better than Z2 but the support on Xperia Z5 Pre forums is nearly dead. Abd Xperia Z5 Pre will not get android 8.0 imo becuase no one seems to talk about it on their forums. So should I stay with my Z2?
I don't recommend to do it.. Better buy XZP if u re interested in 4k screens.
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I want to upgrade from z2, any suggest?
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I don't recommend to do it.. Better buy XZP if u re interested in 4k screens.
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I don't mind how my screen looks. If my screen is good enough then I am ok with it. I just wanted to get someone's opinion.
Go with S8/S9 or even the A8. I have lost faith in Sony's camera output, Amoled screen can also be a single reason to switch
No doubt... XZ premium.. True Sony...
Not sure about Z5 premium, but last week, after good few years with it, I upgraded from Z2 (currently Carbon Black ROM) to Z5 dual SIM (stock ROM so far). I like the look of it, how it handles, how fast and responsive it is. Fingerprint reader is an added bonus.
Brand new unlocked Z5 phone is aprox 290USD in my country. I would say you get quite a good spec for your moneys. Most of my friends have their Huawei and Lenovo crap, despite being few years old Z5 still shines here.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers
Buy a Oneplus 5t or wait for the 6. its cheaper and has flagship specs better than the lastest xz
So let me ask this question in a diffrent way then... Should I switch to Z5P if I am getting it for free?
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So let me ask this question in a diffrent way then... Should I switch to Z5P if I am getting it for free?
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is this a question to ask. You must take everything for free that is offered in life :laugh:
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is this a question to ask. You must take everything for free that is offered in life :laugh:
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I mean I am student and my dad bought a new phone for himself and he asked me If I wanted to switch to his Z5P. I am just scared of the support on Z5P xda forum. Because there only a few developers working on that phone but Z2 has many developpers working for it. So if the situation is now clear should I use Z5P as my daily phone or keep using Z2?
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I mean I am student and my dad bought a new phone for himself and he asked me If I wanted to switch to his Z5P. I am just scared of the support on Z5P xda forum. Because there only a few developers working on that phone but Z2 has many developpers working for it. So if the situation is now clear should I use Z5P as my daily phone or keep using Z2?
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If i were you i would keep my Z2 as i dont like sony stock firmware as it runs slow and lags for me, I dont know about the Z5 premium if it lags or not but developer support is a must in my case
The developers support is the problem, although xz premium has less developers than other devices
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If you look at developers support..a phone developer support starts when the company ends support for the device... Looking at Z2, from 2014 to 2016 though there is developers working at various roms, infact for stability most of us preferred staying on stock rom and only few people who unlocked bootloader to experiment with latest android and new features ported from flagship devices... Since Z2 was one hell of a flagship it didn't need much working on..just a latest version rom satisfy but on the same hand stock rom also new and was pretty happy to have all stock features.
And Z2 wasn't laggy or slow and it's smooth as butter all days long. Towards end of 2016 when Sony said end of support, then starts people like us frequently visiting XDA for new roms with latest version, latest security patch. Also more developers starts getting involved to take Z2 to a new height to keep it updated and last long.
Likewise Z5 premium which is not laggy or slow has got nougat and end of Sony support is happening.. So from this year end onwards there will b developers getting involved more to bring new roms nd features to the Z5 premium.
One problem is we don't want to lose Z5 premium 4K features and other stock functions.. For that we need to stay on stock rom. There is custom alternatives for Z5 premium and few mods can enhance stock usability of that phone.
If u ask why z5 premium not that popular is bcos of its snapdragon 810 chipset which was a failure when launched bcos of overheating and battery issues... 810 easily heats up... Sony did made updates to control overheating by downgrading performance. Still losing a single 1% performance is not acceptable for people like us..
So now there's d answer solving all problem, getting that rich premium feel and big 4K with snapdragon 835. And that is XZ premium..
If u don't overuse the phone Z5 premium is ur best friend for life. Otherwise XZ premium if u can ask dad to buy it. Or exchange Z2 but I don't think there is much resale value for Z2 in 2018.
If Current Z2 has not much problem then use it for 1 more year... Snapdragon 801 is performing well above expectation comparing to newer phones on market.. Except latest android....
Still it's ur call...
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If you look at developers support..a phone developer support starts when the company ends support for the device... Looking at Z2, from 2014 to 2016 though there is developers working at various roms, infact for stability most of us preferred staying on stock rom and only few people who unlocked bootloader to experiment with latest android and new features ported from flagship devices... Since Z2 was one hell of a flagship it didn't need much working on..just a latest version rom satisfy but on the same hand stock rom also new and was pretty happy to have all stock features.
And Z2 wasn't laggy or slow and it's smooth as butter all days long. Towards end of 2016 when Sony said end of support, then starts people like us frequently visiting XDA for new roms with latest version, latest security patch. Also more developers starts getting involved to take Z2 to a new height to keep it updated and last long.
Likewise Z5 premium which is not laggy or slow has got nougat and end of Sony support is happening.. So from this year end onwards there will b developers getting involved more to bring new roms nd features to the Z5 premium.
One problem is we don't want to lose Z5 premium 4K features and other stock functions.. For that we need to stay on stock rom. There is custom alternatives for Z5 premium and few mods can enhance stock usability of that phone.
If u ask why z5 premium not that popular is bcos of its snapdragon 810 chipset which was a failure when launched bcos of overheating and battery issues... 810 easily heats up... Sony did made updates to control overheating by downgrading performance. Still losing a single 1% performance is not acceptable for people like us..
So now there's d answer solving all problem, getting that rich premium feel and big 4K with snapdragon 835. And that is XZ premium..
If u don't overuse the phone Z5 premium is ur best friend for life. Otherwise XZ premium if u can ask dad to buy it. Or exchange Z2 but I don't think there is much resale value for Z2 in 2018.
If Current Z2 has not much problem then use it for 1 more year... Snapdragon 801 is performing well above expectation comparing to newer phones on market.. Except latest android....
Still it's ur call...
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I know how to XZ premium feels becuase he had bought it for himself asked me if I wanted to switch to his Z5P. So I read what you have written and I will keep my Z2 for now and watch the Z5P forum if it gets any atention by developers. Only thing I can complain about Z2 is it's cameras. Main camera used to be good but after many years some scratches appread on the camera lens so the quality of my pictures dropped a little bit but the main camera is still usable. Frontal camera was bad and still bad so nothing I can do about that. So the Z5P will stay as a backup phone for now and maybe I will switch to it as the time goes on.