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like everyone else, there are a lot of icons or apps (depending on what we're talking about) that I don't use. what does superclean leave in, and how hard is it to just delete them.
SuperClean is much much more beyond just deleting apps.
This thread mostly details.
adrynalyne said:
DL30 super clean FROYO
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All bloatware
All verizon apps
All verizon framework
Touchwiz live walls and widgets
Touchwiz launcher
Touchwiz calendar
Touchwiz calculator
Memo and write apps
Flash
Nuance
Samsung keyboard
Startup animation
shutdown animation
startup sounds
market widget
setup wizard
backup assistant
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2.2.1 launcher, modified to work with TW dialer. You need to set PHONE as default activity on the phone button for the first time use.
Musicmod
aosp calendar
aosp calculator
Google voice
Google voice enabled dialer (voicemail button)
aosp dock app
non binged car dock app
non binged browser
camera to include geotagging
latest market, search, voice, gmail, etc
resolv.conf
aosp ringtones
ad blocking hosts
aosp lockscreen
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Read the changelog for any changes/modifications since the original. The latest SuperClean (2.6) is a hybrid of EB01 and EB16, as well.
Edit: And this should either be in the Super Clean thread, or in General- not a new thread in Development.
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much. how do you delete stock apps?
m91-30 said:
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much.
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Read the post! There's a patch to add TouchWiz.
m91-30 said:
how do you delete stock apps?
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Remove the .apk by hand, or use something like Titanium Backup and remove it, or use Titanium Backup's Freeze feature. Be careful what you remove! If you remove some things, TouchWiz and other stuff could stop working!
i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
I like the effects, look, and feel of it. I've never had any speed issues with it, and I use the touchwiz apps like program manager, media player, weather clock, calander, clock, ect...
This belongs in general discussion.
upsidedownaaron said:
i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
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Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
rigglemania said:
Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
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I agree, the launcher is the weakest part of TW, but even the launcher isn't so bad. As far as speed goes, the thing that really slows it down is the TW widgets. Those must be terribly bloated.
My biggest complaint is just the goofy app drawer with the seizure inducing app backgrounds, but the home screen setup isn't too bad. I've switched back to it from ADWex as EX was starting to exhibit some strange behavior (seemed like memory use was ballooning over time and the whole system was slowing down).
Why not just use titanium backup and freeze the apps instead of deleting. (you need the premium version though)
If you really want to know what files are different between ROMs, you can always download 2 zipped ROMs (such as stock deodexed EB01 and superclean EB01 for example), unzip them and use a program like WinMerge (Windows only) to compare the files between the two.
As far as TouchWiz is concerned, it's all personal preference. There was a thread on here where a bunch of people talked about liking the TouchWiz launcher - me included. I like horizontal scrolling, being able to re-arrange the apps to specific pages and I even like the backgrounds to all the apps in the drawer. It is visually more uniform and a lot easier for me to view/launch apps without all the dead space between the icons.
I don't like vertical scrolling and small icons the stock launcher provides. Part of the problem isn't just the launcher, it's the icons. Not all app developers follow the same guidelines for making app icons. Some are 2D, some are 3D, they're all different sizes. I guess the icon backgrounds from TouchWiz or MIUI give them all a uniform look that's appealing to me?
yeah. I'm not giving up touchwiz, or the touchwiz apps, I like how they work, I've liked it since my omnia 2 (even though, admittedly, it did slow that phone down). I also like the continuity it provides from one samsung phone to the next, as I plan on sticking by samsung as long as the phone works like it should for me from the git go (I never had any serious problems with my omnia 2, or fascinate). right now my only setback is only having a linux computer. I need to figure out how to hack android (linux kernel) from ubuntu (linux). you would think two linux OSs would play well together, oh well.
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
m91-30 said:
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
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There are lists around, but there has been a fair amount of work put into the superclean ROMs. That is a good basis for what you can/can not remove to an extent.
I say to an extent, because there are some things left in, some things removed and some things added to the superclean ROM that doesn't "officially" make it "super clean" to me.
For example, the Memo app can be removed (it has been in superclean) and it won't hurt anything. The additional fonts can be removed, but they haven't been in superclean. There are some Google apps which typically come stock that can be removed - some that don't come stock have been added to superclean - all of which can be installed from the Market.
Sometimes the best way to test is from trial and error (if you do use this method, use ADB and rename files to test - don't delete). If you go asking questions, people will either tell you to Google it, try it yourself, or you'll get 2 different answers that conflict which will cause you to try it yourself anyway.
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
adrynalyne said:
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
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Interesting.. I never noticed a FC sub menu after removing fonts, but I (like most others else here) trust your judgment 200% over my own.
I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
adrynalyne said:
I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
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I just re-flashed MIUI so I can't give you the step-by-step, but I recall removing a total of 3 files with the string *EUK* and they just don't show up in the fonts list in display settings. The option to download fonts is still there - no FC.
can someone give me a list of some of the apps to avoid freezing/uninstalling to avoid locking up touchwiz and android?
Good discussion
I just rooted my galaxy 10.1 tab which made a HUGE difference in how smooth and fast it runs. Prior to that I had no root experience at all.
So now I had my atrix a while and spent so much time configuring and tweaking every little thing. I'm quite happy with it as is. So is there any good reason for me to root? I know I could enable tethering that way, which is something I consider. But otherwise why else if things run smooth as is and battery life is fine. How much of this is restorable? Specifically the Go launcher settings and desktop screens, I don't think I'd end up using a different launcher.
FYI here's whats on at any given time.
Go Launcher w/ all anims
Go contacts
Go calendar
Go facebook
Go task manager
Android Agenda Widget
WP clock (live wallpaper)
Elixir widget
Widget locker
Watchdog
Accuweather widget
Smart Keyboard Pro
thx all
Just go unlok your boot loader you noob
For reals though, you can install custom Roms, overclocked kernels, etc. once your boot loader is unlocked. And no, unlocking or rooting will not affect any of your widgets or apps or anything, unless you install a deblurred ROM, in which case any Motoblur widgets would be affected... you have no idea what I just said, do you
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Swiftks said:
Just go unlok your boot loader you noob
For reals though, you can install custom Roms, overclocked kernels, etc. once your boot loader is unlocked. And no, unlocking or rooting will not affect any of your widgets or apps or anything, unless you install a deblurred ROM, in which case any Motoblur widgets would be affected... you have no idea what I just said, do you
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Well a little. But since my only Root and Rom experience required a full wipe I'm not sure how to do it. Can I just follow a DroidDemos tutorial and root without the wipe. Then at least I can back up and restore exactly how things are. I dont use any blur widgets, but there's a concern that some of the widgets I use are somehow dependent on blur or stuff synced to blur.
Regarding custom ROMS, if I'm just gonna run Go Launcher on top and it runs well now, why bother with that or overclocking?
I'm not trying to talk myself or anyone out of it, just trying to better understand.
I can make a backup of Go Launcher, if that's re-installable in 1 click that'd save ALOT of trouble.
pootown said:
Well a little. But since my only Root and Rom experience required a full wipe I'm not sure how to do it. Can I just follow a DroidDemos tutorial and root without the wipe. Then at least I can back up and restore exactly how things are. I dont use any blur widgets, but there's a concern that some of the widgets I use are somehow dependent on blur or stuff synced to blur.
Regarding custom ROMS, if I'm just gonna run Go Launcher on top and it runs well now, why bother with that or overclocking?
I'm not trying to talk myself or anyone out of it, just trying to better understand.
I can make a backup of Go Launcher, if that's re-installable in 1 click that'd save ALOT of trouble.
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Check out my Noob guide for some info., links, etc....it's at the top of the general section.
As far as why would you want to? Some possible reasons:
- free up ram/space by running a debloated ROM.
- increase speed by not having bloat run in background.
- increase speed by overclocking a custom kernel.
- More customization with a custom ROM.
- CWM/Nandroid backup
Your launcher has nothing to do with a ROM, you can run which ever launcher tou want on top of any ROM.
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Appreciate it. I have read some other guides in the past but a personal answer goes a long way.
cm7 is worth it, if your still on froyo (i was as gb not released for my carrier) then even more reason to as some of the gingerbread features are nice. cm7 has so many options that should be there in the first place
I was going to wait for a new cm7 beta but this one has impressed me and have yet to encounter any major bugs
Yeah that seems to be the one. I have gb tho so its not for that. Tether and uninstal some blur apps is main reason.
if you just want to do that and dont want to get in with the custom roms root is very easy to acheive and you would not loose any data or even home screen setups that you have.
Definitally root it but its up to you weather to instal custom roms.
my personal opinion would be to unlock the bootloader and flash away
pootown said:
I just rooted my galaxy 10.1 tab which made a HUGE difference in how smooth and fast it runs. Prior to that I had no root experience at all.
So now I had my atrix a while and spent so much time configuring and tweaking every little thing. I'm quite happy with it as is. So is there any good reason for me to root? I know I could enable tethering that way, which is something I consider. But otherwise why else if things run smooth as is and battery life is fine. How much of this is restorable? Specifically the Go launcher settings and desktop screens, I don't think I'd end up using a different launcher.
FYI here's whats on at any given time.
Go Launcher w/ all anims
Go contacts
Go calendar
Go facebook
Go task manager
Android Agenda Widget
WP clock (live wallpaper)
Elixir widget
Widget locker
Watchdog
Accuweather widget
Smart Keyboard Pro
thx all
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It sounds like you have a good understanding of what you want from your phone, and it sounds like your current setup meets or exceeds your expectations. You hit the nail on the head imo when you named tethering as a top reason to root, if that is a feature you need (w/o being charged extra for the same data), then yes go ahead and root unlock or both. However, if you really are happy with your current setup/speed/battery, i say keep it!! No reason to fix whats not broken. Dont feel like you have to do these things to your phone just because others are calling you a noob. Have a look at the list of root apps (in my sig) and that might help you know if there is anything you cant live without.
Is there anyway to completely remove sense from the flyer?
Or a rom that is just stock honeycomb without sense?
I'm talking about everything, even the menus.
Possible, but lots of work and not likely. No benefit to it,
The so called stock, AOSP ROM is a myth. There is no such thing. No functional ROM without the hardware vendors files and code that interface the hardware to the rest of the OS. What Google produces as Android runs on no actual device , none , nada. It's only the GUI and API. Leaving the kernel, and drivers and radio sections at a minimum to the hardware builders.
Thanks for the quick reply. Just didn't want to waste time if it wasn't a simple rom
The following custom ROM removes some Sense elements. As I haven't tried it myself, don't know if the menus are re-themed to look more AOSP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411170
As already mentioned, the Sense framework is deeply integrated into the ROM, so removing it is a lot of work, as is porting in vanilla Android elements.
But my main point is that it gains you nothing and lose lots (pen, notes integration, widgets). No speed, no memory (we got lots) . and you can have the look without doing anything hard, you don't even need to root.
I already got your main point. No need to rehash it. I agree the the Flyer has enough CPU and memory muscle to run Sense smoothly, which was not the case with past devices, especially phones (but even newer phones are starting to have the specs to run Sense very smoothly). But many people just don't like the Sense aesthetics and prefer the Vanilla Android look. I was just addressing the original question by the OP.
For some reason, I like the look of stock HC much better. It's sleeker. Sense is very bubbly looking.
Also, it's very annoying that I'm missing the core android apps like email, calendar, internet.
The menus in HC look much sleeker than sense, which is cluttered with large fonts
DigitalMD said:
Possible, but lots of work and not likely. No benefit to it,
The so called stock, AOSP ROM is a myth. There is no such thing. No functional ROM without the hardware vendors files and code that interface the hardware to the rest of the OS. What Google produces as Android runs on no actual device , none , nada. It's only the GUI and API. Leaving the kernel, and drivers and radio sections at a minimum to the hardware builders.
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt CM stock AOSP? then again you may be right cause CM9 sounds soo good it might as well be mythical lol
If you do a little research you will find that you can customize the fonts and backgrounds and many other aspects of sense or any launcher you choose. You can also switch launchers if you like, even on the fly. You don;t need a new ROM to do that. its personal preference, but I love the Sense widgets and for me , they do more and function better than stock which I find boring and for example stock email, not very good.
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truthkillszz said:
Correct me if im wrong but isnt CM stock AOSP? then again you may be right cause CM9 sounds soo good it might as well be mythical lol
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OK let me correct you. CM7 and now CM9 are far far from stock. That was the intent and that is their appeal. They are based around non-stock launchers, ADW for CM7 and Tribuche for CM9 and have countless mods, additions and special features that are not stock.
And Motorola CEO (now owned by Goggle) has declared that the "mythical AOSP ROM does not exist" and nobody wants boring stock Andorid devices.
So it must be true......
At any rate , expect Google to add in even more vendor customization hooks so that vendors can differentiate their products.
In my opinion the sense launcher is just better than the stock hc. I like stock browser more than HTC browser, as well as keyboard. So I switch out the bits and pieces I like. There will never be an asop room for this device. To each his or her own but the pieces to modify your set up are available if you look. Pick and choose what fits your preference
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The sense widgets aren't resizable, that's their main issue.
I do like the HTC launcher though.
Any suggestions on how to get the stock menus? Or not simple enough? I know how to load most of the stock apps
Stock menus is not easy, and I do not believe anyone had managed it yet
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stock menus, no, but there is a entire thread on mods and skinning sense on XDA somewhere
cpufreak3 said:
For some reason, I like the look of stock HC much better. It's sleeker. Sense is very bubbly looking.
Also, it's very annoying that I'm missing the core android apps like email, calendar, internet.
The menus in HC look much sleeker than sense, which is cluttered with large fonts
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How do you differentiate between sense and hc? You can't ”uninstall” it, so how what is ”stock hc” and how can/does it look any different?
JB
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I would assume talking about launcher, widgets, and apps like email.
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IF you look at the Acer A100, it uses the stock HC launcher. Not a lot of difference, but you don;t get the Sense widgets, Instead there are some stock HC widgets and some Acer widgets.
If you look in the LeeDroid HC thread, you see that Lee has included the stock HC launcher in his ROM and you cna switch between stock and HTC. There are also some neat tweaks for the app drawer there
For those of you looking for some serious GUI tweaks and lots of options, keep an eye on Paul of MoDaCo fame here on this thread. Once he gives Flyer HC the MRC treatment , you will be in for a treat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251165
I'm currently on LeeDrOiD's Gingerbread, rooted and all. I installed "System app remover" and it was easy to remove the Sense lockscreen. After reboot, I now have the raw Android lockscreen. In this advanced app remover, the actual "Sense" is listed, but it warns me that it's a "key module". If I remove it and reboot, will I get freeze and need to re-roll and old Nandroid backup? Just curious. And oh, I'm not really asking for user interface (running different launcher anyways), but it's really more about the fact that rumor has it that the Sense backbone is what's making HTC devices having problem with certain Bluetooth devices, for instance the Wii remote controller, which will not pair as easily on e.g. my Galaxy S3 LTE. On HTC phones, you need to install extra bloat software etc. So, any ideas?
o.o well hi guys. I decided since nowhere on the internet can i find anything about improvements made to sense 4.5 over 4.1 and there are roms being made...id try to list some of the ones i have noticed, cause noone else will. Now yes, i say improvments, and i however mean over-all differences that have been made, i have an htc evo 4g lte and decided id try out the newly released and since greatly improved sense 4.5 rom available for my device. I would also like to note before i continue that any article or blog related to this, and some other roms, for OTHER DEVICES only list sense 4.5 as snappy, or quicker. Any why yes they are *shocked* but why whats missing where should i go to find this information
-Note: I will warn you that some of the changes i list may be rom-related however i have attempted to probe around and do some homework before posting the ones that are sense 4.5 related, and not related soley to the rom and changes that were made. However since you likely have a htc evo 4g lte i am sure you will like to hear a little about the rom as even on their main forum, very little is shown about the rom as "they forgot" so i will attempt to include information i have found about the rom aswell to give you a better idea of what you are getting yourself into.
I have gone through many roms for this device and find them all to be ho-hum or "not great improvements to stock" and here is why and ill list the roms i have used and give you my +'s and -'s for each rom. yes if you would like to skip this, go ahead as that matters anout as much to me as you do, just scroll untill you see if you skipped.
1. The Viper 4g rom.
Now here is a rom i throughly enjoyed and the only one out of ALLL the rest that i made a nandroid backup to return to incase i didnt like the rest of them. The +'s to this rom include battery life, performance, and customization. Three things you dont usually expect to see all in one package. I admit that this is not the most professional looking rom out there however with enough tweaks to the included graphics the rom turns out to be the second best one i have tried so far. Because of the viper configuration done through the terminal this rom has the best battery life i have seen for a rom that i have used. It lowers the processor power down to pre-configured levels when the screen is off and when used in conjunction with the evilz kernal (not for the overclocking, but for the underclocking during lockscreen) you can set the processor to run at 192MHZ and use a single core while in lockscreen. Giving me an over-all idle battery life of about 6-7 days. and regular use battery life (determined by using the phone and immediately locking it afterwords) of about a day and a half. I then set the processor to 1.7GHZ maz and 192mhz min on the power saver governer while the phone is not asleep or in lockscreen and i have a phone that will not fail to do what i ask, even if what i ask it is to live. Making me absolutely love this rom. However i have found that most customization that has been added into this rom, graphics, and even ability wise is quite lacking. I also notice that these same customization options are found in the charmeleon rom for this very device, ultimately leading me to not even attempt trying a rom that supported pokemon as while i do enjoy the games, i simply want a professional looking device that i can configure as well and this put me at a loss for the charmealon rom, the viper rom was my second option for this kind of configuration and it atleast made the device look as though it was not made for a 5-12 year old so i decided to go with it.
2. The Mean ICS rom.
This rom was cool for one reason and i used it for a very small amount of time for this reason alone, when compared to the Viper rom, this rom has less customization options, a kernal that could not be overclocked as well as the kernal i was running on viper (i do understand that this was my doing, but why settle for less. And a kernal that while it had power saving options, those options are found on almost every rom out there and are not nearly as innovative as the viper roms power management settings. The reason that i thought this rom was cool for the very brief time i was using it, was the boot animation. If comming from the Viper 4g rom, id stick with Viper and throw in a new kernal...
3.Cyanogen Mod 10- Nightlies rom.
I adored this rom, however because of the various failures of the rom i was forced to give it up. The camera in jelly bean is terrible (cuts off parts of pictures i want) and will suddenly without reason take completely black pictures, to add to that the roms launcher would crash repeatidly making me feal as if my phone was about to mess up perm every time this happened especially when doing something like flashing my recovery to my boot in order to restore a previous rom, make changes to my boot partition, or change kernals to allow for further customization options for my processor. That and the fact that i missed sense widgets made me need to give up this rom untill it is in its final stages.
4.Freevo Rom
This rom was interesting as it was basically the jelly bean rom, on ics for me. No lag anywhere, no bloatwhere, the only thing that made me leave this rom was that i had found a more interesting rom, and the fact i could not use sense widgets. Also i am not a fan of how android looks regularly, forcing me to continuously look for a sense rom.
5.Blahh blahh jewel rom.
I apologize to the dev but for some reason i am having a hard time remembering the name of this rom. This rom included in it the attempt to blend the xperia experience with the sense experience. I have to say it did so quite well as the apps that were designed specifically for the xperia came out running well on the device, however the speed of said device was deminished for a reason i cannot fully explain. When running absolutely nothing on the phone, i was lagging switching between panels on my homescreen. I am searching for good battery life, good performance, sense, and jelly bean like responsiveness. SO this rom was already out of my sight and i had to switch roms, i may come back to this rom at a later date but i am throughly enjoying the rom i am currently using, the only upgrade i see in sight is when they move this sense 4.5 rom into jelly bean.
6. Super LTE bareback rom
I used this rom specifically because of the data throttle code removal listed in the changelog and the 7000 quad measured for the bareback version of this rom. I liked the speed i was getting however i missed the sense widgets i had grown to love before throwing a rom on my phone and decided to switch to the sense version at a later time.
7. UR evo Rom.
This rom i loved for a few reasons and almost didnt switch from it. Those reasons were, better camera (not 4.5 camera, just better), everything worked, alright battery life, power saver settings, update me smartphone app (for themeing purposes), and all sound enhancer profiles and setting i have read were originally included in 4.1 before the new RUU. The phone was everything i wanted it to be but it still wasnt quick enough, there was just something missing from it for me, maybe it was the config but i felt this same effect while using the VIPER rom so that couldnt be it. So ofcourse the search continues. I ended up using this rom as a daily for a week.
8. Super LTE Rom
For the very brief amount of time i used this rom, i ABSOLUTELY ADORED IT. it was a god rom for me and set up exactly the way i wanted it. it still had the missing factor though and i decided that this thing i was missing was what i gained from Jelly bean in Cyanogen mod 10, So i continued the search, searching for working jelly bean roms. Now this was a hard search at the time.
9. Paranoid Android LTE rom.
All i can say in relation to this rom was WOW. Paranoid android had the same (if less) issues that Cyanogen mod 10 had but made up for it with the unique customization that comes bundled into the rom. Allowing you to change dpi settings per app and their attempt to mix phone dpi with their "tablet mode" to create hybrid, and phablet mode was unreal. Along with their tablet mode which did its best to turn your phone into a tablet with phone capabilities. If this rom had my sense widgets i loved, i would never have left it. Jelly bean with less problems with Cyanogen mod 10 and more configuration with all the responsiveness and battery life of jelly bean? then add Rosie and you have got yourself the best phone i can think of. But saddly rosie was not included in this jelly bean rom nor was sense or my sense widgets or apps that i love (i actually use car alot) SO eventually this rom out grew its worth as i was missing something from sense that could only be on sense. I also want to note for anyone thinking of using this rom that it also comes with all of cyanogen mod 10's settings bundled in aswell.
10. FINALLY and surprisingly number 10... >.> i might be missing a few. The SENSE 4.5 ICS rom.
To set the record straight, I did not want to use this rom i am currently using. I looked at it and went, eh its kinda cool-ish. but what could make sense 4.5 better than 4.1? i looked and looked and looked. You know what i found? it was smoother...and it had a cool camera. SO i searched some blogs, and through xda a bit. i found, cool camera. Much smoother (in almost the same words, including snappy). I searched the forum that the rom was in, and all related posts for the rom. I found less than smoother and camera... To put in quite a small amount of words, curiosity had got the best of me. I searched on bing, google, blackle, ask, yahoo (as some search engines contain different resultes, now that some are complying to the DMCA and other laws (google, yahoo) i was forced to believe that somewhere the info was left off so i searched bing (which does not currently comply with the DMCA in terms of results given so i must assume it also does not comply with a law prohibiting this information to be shown in search results) and i found ZILTCH. i went to youtube, and heard the same upsetting thing i had been hearing the entire time (not much changes in sense 4.5, its a bit quicker and the camera has alot of improvements)....This set me off a little bit and i refused to look at my phone no matter how much it pleaded for 30-45 minutes before comming back to it and saying, alright, lets give this a shot. I read some of the information relating to the rom to see what features i would be loosing and found that it was similar to a mixture between the Viper rom and the UR evo rom in terms of features present. Such as the Sound enhancer settings and music box options and blah blah blah. So i would be getting sense and my sound options i loved from Ur Evo, as well as theming options for Rosie. I took it i wouldnt be loosing much and downloaded the rom for installation. Enabled the HTC dumlock allowing me to access the boot partion from inside TWRP recovery and went forward with the installation. It was a nice, clean installation, i dont mind putting time into things that might pay off so i decided it was worth it, and did the standard, factory reset, clear cache, clear dalvic, and wipe system. WITHOUT performing a nandroid incase it messed up. IT went through with everything, i wiped dalvic and cache and rebooted. The device booted with the HTC ONE boot up and loaded more quickly than it did from previous 4.1 roms. And upon completing setup, i felt i had a jelly bean device in my hands. with sense 4.5.
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Noticable differences from sense 4.1
1. Noticable keyboard lag removal in stressful situations.
2. Complete keyboard lag removal in browser.
3. Internet "tabs" button labled with number of currently open tabs.
4. Slight Widget animation Removal.
-Notes: This was first noticed while swyping up on the weather 4x4 widget, which usually displayed a stream of clouds. it now displays a single cloud, moving further away from you, or closer to you, determined by the direction of the swype on the widget.
5. Noticable homescreen/rosie lag removal (noticable to the degree of jelly bean)
-Notes: Confirmed not part of rom! Smooth settings for Rosie (flattening settings...this is a fast phone, why take away from it) are not yet stable on this rom and have, because of this fact, not yet been enabled, nor do you have the ability to enable them in options. I have also personally confirmed that the widgets have not been pre-flattened.
6. Improved keyboard type location recognition and integration.
-Notes: Previously in 4.1 the keyboard when pressing new message through the widget it would present you with the standard new message screen, now it asks for the name of contact/contacts and upon pressing enter key sends you to the message part of the message. I find this to be a minor improvement.
7. Multitasking has been improved a very small degree.
-Notes: The slight delay if you leave an app on accident, before the app is destroyed and awaits reconstruction via a tap in the recent apps panel, seems to be increased by about 4-5 seconds over 4.1.
8. Multitasking improvement
-Notes: a mod has been floating around for this device enableing unlimited recent apps panels in recent apps, this seems to have been implemented inside of Sense 4.5 however i am unable to confirm if this is rom related. However due to the fact that apps are reconstructed on request after destruction through the recent apps panel still, i cannot confirm that the entire mod was implemented which leads me to believe that this is a sense 4.5 improvement over 4.1, and not an implemented mod.
9. Quick settings re-implementation and improvement
-Notes: i am saddly again unable to fully see this as a sense 4.5 upgrade as 4.1 roms have re-implemented quick settings via roms aswell. However i noticed a difference response through quick settings, you no longer have to click the on/off/whatever button itself to enable or disable the option, rather click on the entire rectangular portion that contains both the button, description, and icon. This being a much larger area over 4.1 allows you to more quickly access quick settings which i have found usefull when using the flashlight application.
10. New HTC Navigation App - HTC Locations.
-This app has been implemented in HTC's Car application, replacing google navigation. While google navigation still comes on the device, it is no longer used as the primary for HTC car, a mod is required to adjust this inside of the rom itself, otherwise it will be a challenge to replace as many of the mods for sense 4.1 no longer work correctly on sense 4.5. I had to change it back to google navigation, and then to co-pilot live premium usa after i got that app and definately paid for it....It seems like a promising app but it is not quite functional yet as on a test it displayed a wendys was 57 miles away from my location, as the closest wendys to me. Google Navigation showed me one within 2 miles. Best to avoid this one if you are in florida.
11. Rotation Issues Noticed in google navigation that i have never before seen, untested in other apps.
-Notes: I realize this could be the rom, or the fact that sense 4.5 is still getting its problems worked out causing this issue, or the fact that sense 4.5 is not on ics but on an accidental rotation of google navigation i realized that google navigation will go from portrait, to landscape, and back to portrait, but when putting it into landscape the second time, will freeze and no notification will present itself. This required a manual force close of the app whilst driving and surrounded by 3 cops, you can immagine the frustration.
12. Contact menu upon opening from messages application has changed.
-Notes the area where the picture for the contact is, is smaller, and seems to be in a different format.
13. Overall lag removal (switching between apps, opening apps, closing apps, and super user rights, browser tab switching, browser operation) comprable to Jelly Bean, even under stressfull situation (many unclosable apps open, gps, browser...blah blah) this thing will not lag, and i believe that has something to do with the new kernal implmented in sense 4.5, and the fact that sense 4.5 was being designed for jelly bean.
14. LANDSCAPE ROSIE
-I realize that alot of roms have already implemented this as a feature with different formats, and app drawer configurations, but i have confirmed that this is not in fact part of the rom (the option is greyed out in config menu, rom dev states options greyed out in said menu require more testing before implementation, thus are not available at this time)
16. Blue Notification Line surrounds foreground active text box when entering text (i do not recognize this from stock, or 4.1 roms i have used)
17. HTC notes application
-Notes: I am unsure whether or not this application existed on my phone before doing all of my rom craziness, however i am sure that this app was not previously in any of the roms i have used leading me to believe that this was not in my phone originally and i have confirmed that this was not added in my the dev (other than the fact he through sense 4.5 on my phone)
18. Better looking folder icons
-Notes: i am un-themed as of right now, even through skins and themes do exist on this rom, so i must note that i am running what is supposed to be stock, and the folder icon seems sharper, clearer, not as rounded, and a darker black than it was previously on unthemed stock 4.1 viper, or mean rom.
19. HTC camera improvements....ugh
-Notes: to the casual user on first glance the first usable thing you will notice is the fact you no longer have to go through a menu to switch to the front facing camers. I will also add that a default self timer has been defaulted on the font facing camera and you may click anywhere on the screen other than capture video to take a picture. I will also add that tap-to-focus has recieved an improvement. the camera will focus and upon completion of focus will immediately take the picture. I will also add that the quality of the camera has been slightly improved. other than that i can offer you a google search for the rest of the more techy information relating to the camera, as while i use it alot, i tend to not mess with the settings to much, just switch from front facing, to rear facing, use hdr, and panorama. The things i thought to note were the features i use and i have.
20. Flipboard app included in 4.5
-Notes: i will admit i had noooo clue what flipboard was before i signed up for it, but now that i have it, i use it daily so i must note its existance in sense 4.5. I do not believe this app was added in through the rom but i may be mistaken. This is basically just a social newspaper that displays information you are interested in, in a way similar to stumble apon.
21. Google NOW
-Notes: google now has been included in this rom as it is included in sense 4.5, i am unsure if this had to be modded in to work with ics or not but it is there and usable, you should know what google now is if you have ever used jelly bean, but it is basically the jelly bean search function, and the jelly bean general voice search and information function, its like a very basic siri for android. Better ones exist on the market or google play and I would tell you to get "Assistant" Which has a much better text to speech engine built in and will perform the same basic functions as google now with better features included for free.
22. Data throttling code removal (getting 1MB/s down on 3 bars 3g service from sprint, previously on Viper 4g and Ur Evo i was getting top 350MB/s) -Notes: this could be because of the rom however as i have stated most of the mods that previously worked on sense 4.1 do not work on sense 4.5 so i can not conclusively count out the idea that this is a sense 4.5 feature. It would be nice if it was so i offer it as such.
I will continue to update this thread as i get more information relating to sense 4.5, i have had this on my phone for a day now and all seems to be working well. For those interested about rom features the forgot to mention
In quick settings you will notice a button called chubbz and soc23 tweaks button that is similar in function to the Viper 4g tweaks and Charmealeon <---spelling? feature in each of those roms and has a list of tweaks for sense 4.5 that seems as long or longer than the ones listed in the previously listed roms. Also a themeing feature is present however i cannot confirm that any of it is working yet as the only feature of it i have got working is the ability to change overall system-wide font.
All sound enhance options have been re-enabled.
the speed of the device, even though its on ICS is comprable to jelly bean (not over-estimating, maybe understating)
the camera...is cool i guess? not really something to write home about, some cool new features
Anyways thank you for reading everyone, im going to go watch one of the 10 movies i bought and definately paid for over the last 3 hours with some family and i hope you enjoyed, as i said i will continue to update with more related information about sense 4.5 and features that may have been missed.
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Talk about an epic first post..."hey guys" would of sufficed lol ..and did I miss it what was your favorite Rom ? Assuming chubbz and sacs..whos thread was locked for some reason . Was thinking of trying it out..but mean has been great for me
Wow, this was thorough. I've been on & off with the 4.5 Rom (v3) due to JavaScript + Stock Browser closing problems but after reading this, I'm more interested in trying out a few of the other ROMs you've mentioned.
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I thanked that just cause you took the time to type that all out. Hot damn.
You forgot Fresh rom. It is IMO the best sense rom out off them all.
U wanna write a paper for me ? I was the one who went to the skip section
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firmbiz94 said:
Talk about an epic first post..."hey guys" would of sufficed lol ..and did I miss it what was your favorite Rom ? Assuming chubbz and sacs..whos thread was locked for some reason . Was thinking of trying it out..but mean has been great for me
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Well first off thank you for your comment, and i went to look at mean rom ics's thread today and they have made some interesting improvements that i might be willing to look at soon. Im not really sure why the thread was locked, im sure its original forum hasnt been locked but i very well could be wrong. And while i may have hinted twards the idea that the Sense 4.5 ICS rom was my favorite, i would actually have to say that i have a few favorites based on the things i am looking for. the Sense 4.5 ICS rom is just something that has all of what i want in one semi-not yet done, package. But interestingly enough i did not indeed state this in OP my favorite rom, and its hard to pick just one but ill give it a go.
Jelly Bean: Paranoid Android : this rom is using Cyanogen mod 10 as a base, and then mixing in paranoid android, and it does it so well, i was shocked every time i turned on my phone.
Sense 4.1: Super LTE : This rom has a few things i have never seen in other roms, and almost all the things i have seen in other roms, WHILE boasting faster and smoother usability than other roms. The only thing this rom is lacking is Battery life, in that aspect, Viper 4g ICS can not be beaten.
Sense 4.5: Sense 4.5 ICS rom.
-The reason i like this rom so much is simply because it has everything i want, Battery life, Performance, Sound enhancing settings, Sony Bravia Image and video rendering engine, Customization, Personalization, themeing options (when i figure out how they work) and Jelly bean like touch response and lag removal. However, I cant state this rom as an over-all favorite as while it has everything, it is not complete yet. What i need is this exact rom on an error removed Jelly Bean before i can throw it up as my favorite. Or AT LEAST have the rotation FC issue worked out but, even with its problems, it is still currently the rom that fits what i am looking for the best at this moment.
Thank you again! sorry i get chatty when it comes to roms.
You still havnt tried Fresh
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You still havnt tried Fresh
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hah sorry about that i actually am just about ready to leave this rom as it isnt quite ready to use as a daily driver yet so i may end up looking at it again however i do remember trying an older version of fresh evo and i did like it from what i could see of it but i was looking at the time for something dramatically different and that simply wasnt it for me. I will look to see if any new improvements have been made to the rom before i install the new version of Paranoid android back onto my device and hopefully the gs3 camera included with cyanogen mod 10 as long as it still works well enough.
I do apologize for not getting back to you sooner however, as i am sort of hating the fact i am limited to 5 minutes per post Anyways for the time-being i will attempt leaving sense again, however i will attempt to check out and look at the new versions of fresh evo and see if improvements have been made, hopefully the data throttle removal has been implemented recently, i will also look at the mean rom as i have seen alot of improvements from the time i originally tried the rom
ALSO i must note the fact that i was originally getting these roms from a reviewer who was supplying me with out-dated rom packages, leading me to believe that during my first run through these roms i was using v 1.0.0 and now that many updates have been applied i will attempt to check them all out at least one more time before passing final judgement on them. Honestly, i hope to god a new rom comes along that blows me out of the water the way paranoid android did the first time i used the rom on a different device, and then again on my lte. I have also during my night tonight found that the viper 4g ics rom has been updated and i am happy to see some of the problems i noticed corrected and will attempt again soon.
To put simply, I will attempt re-trying all of these roms a second time and see what they have to offer me. And i will post a new thread with reviews relating to said roms as soon as i get the chance, likely by the end of next week.
For those more interested in this rom i will be updating with a list of features included in this rom that i did not before mention AND an updated list of noticed sense 4.5 over-all changes.
Ill let you know what i think of the fresh evo rom when i get back from testing it out over this next week. Thank you very much for reading, and i hope you have a wonderful night.
His review on the Sense 4.5 ROM is pretty much spot on. It's the best ROM i've used so far for this phone. Only thing i can knock it for is when you're connected to 4G and the icon changes to something completely different while handling data. I don't agree with it..but I enjoy it.
And another thing. Idk if it's just me..but I remember on the OG Evo when the DHD was released with a newer version of Sense and devs ported it over. Didn't their color scheme revolve around blue? I'm noticing a lot of blue in this ROM ex: Most bullets are blue. Loading bars are blue. Focused text boxes are blue. My incoming and outgoing texts are even a shade of blue. Anything focused is blue! Which, if I can remember correctly, is exactly how it was for the DHD's version of sense. If that's true..do they only change the color scheme for our Sprint version? Or do they change the scheme for all US phones? Just me thinking out loud...
Sure it isn't cernel?
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Hey there.
This is NOT a "WHAT IS BEST ROM" thread, as has been posted earlier on. I'm simply asking what ROMs I could look into as there are SO many to choose from.
Currently, I'm running Stock 4.1.1 using the JB Domination theme mod and Siyah Kernel. I love Siyah and wish to keep that, but I'd like to have a ROM that gives me more freedom. I have tried CM10 before, and it was missing way too much of the good stuff for me to want to continue using it. I find TouchWiz pretty ugly, hence why I switched to JB Domination and that does solve some of the problem. The thing is, I also hate the stock android launcher due to its lack of folder support in the app menu and hate how it's just a direct list of apps.
I find the stock TouchWiz ROM perfectly functional, but I don't particularly enjoy it per say. I dabbled with ParanoidAndroid and loved the idea but was still irritated with the lack of features that CM10 at its base provides me with. I found that apps that were alternative to those that were baked into the Stock Samsung ROMs just weren't as good.
I use the flashlight and mono audio widgets a lot, I want folders in my application menu and I want any launcher I use to look professional and to go with the theme. I'd prefer the ROM to look just like stock android. The standard launcher with the option of folders would also be useful... I also enjoy customisation as far as colouring of themes goes, but this is something that Android seems to lack, strangely, that Bada (Shocking OS) could actually do very well.
Wanamlite is my most likely next choice as it improves upon stock, but still relies on TouchWiz.
So...
- Like Stock Android theming (Not Stock Touchwiz)
- Launcher that is aethstetically pleasing (Not misended, like GOLauncher) that supports folders in the app menu
- Good selection of widgets (Or alternatives I could download that don't look poorly made)
- Task Manager (As in Touchwiz)
- Apps that serve all the purposes that Samsung's stock ones do (A decent music player, Camera, Contacts, Messaging, Memo etc.)
- Healthy bunch of Theme customisation options (Kind of like Paranoid Android)
What would be your suggestions based on what I've said? If there is no ROM that meets even some of those requirements, what would you recommend I do? Can I integrate some of Samsung's software into something like CM10?
Thanks.
What about OMEGA v29 ?
Should satisfy your needs
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I will have a look at that, a lot of people seem to use it and also the stock AOKP project.
Any other suggestions?
Check out Omega, it has a ton of themes for it now to change the look of the phone completely. Getting rid of that ugly Touchwiz interface that you described.
As for launcher I'm using Apex Launcher Pro. I've been through so many launchers in the past (ADW, Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, Nova) and have never left Apex since installing it. It has a ton of customization and lots of themes too to give you a different look altogether.
Another thing you could do like myself is dual boot CM10 and Samsung Stock and then you have the choice of what rom you want to boot into. The down side is that data within apps don't share between roms so you wont see the same texts in each rom (unless you backup/restore with Titanium but that's annoying.
Or check out MIUI if you like the iPhone interface, I've never been a fan personally but you may like it Best thing to advise you is flash the roms you think you'd like, flashing hundreds of time wont hurt your phone and as long as you have backups you wont lose any data just restore after flashing and you're good to go! :thumbup:
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Thank you for the advice my friend!
Don't worry about advising me about flashes, I've flashed my S3 many times already xD The actual reason I want to try a different ROM now is because I managed to get a bunch of malware on the phone and need my monthly wipe lol. I thought it was an apt time to try something new.
What kernel do you use for dual booting? I'm a little reluctant to move away from Siyah as it's so great.
I think I will give Omega a go, once I get back from my outing today. I've backed up, just need to sort out what's on my SD card now.
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Thank you for the advice my friend!
Don't worry about advising me about flashes, I've flashed my S3 many times already xD The actual reason I want to try a different ROM now is because I managed to get a bunch of malware on the phone and need my monthly wipe lol. I thought it was an apt time to try something new.
What kernel do you use for dual booting? I'm a little reluctant to move away from Siyah as it's so great.
I think I will give Omega a go, once I get back from my outing today. I've backed up, just need to sort out what's on my SD card now.
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Siyah dualboots mate
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hmm this seems like a best rom thread in disguise
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