Is there anyway to completely remove sense from the flyer?
Or a rom that is just stock honeycomb without sense?
I'm talking about everything, even the menus.
Possible, but lots of work and not likely. No benefit to it,
The so called stock, AOSP ROM is a myth. There is no such thing. No functional ROM without the hardware vendors files and code that interface the hardware to the rest of the OS. What Google produces as Android runs on no actual device , none , nada. It's only the GUI and API. Leaving the kernel, and drivers and radio sections at a minimum to the hardware builders.
Thanks for the quick reply. Just didn't want to waste time if it wasn't a simple rom
The following custom ROM removes some Sense elements. As I haven't tried it myself, don't know if the menus are re-themed to look more AOSP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411170
As already mentioned, the Sense framework is deeply integrated into the ROM, so removing it is a lot of work, as is porting in vanilla Android elements.
But my main point is that it gains you nothing and lose lots (pen, notes integration, widgets). No speed, no memory (we got lots) . and you can have the look without doing anything hard, you don't even need to root.
I already got your main point. No need to rehash it. I agree the the Flyer has enough CPU and memory muscle to run Sense smoothly, which was not the case with past devices, especially phones (but even newer phones are starting to have the specs to run Sense very smoothly). But many people just don't like the Sense aesthetics and prefer the Vanilla Android look. I was just addressing the original question by the OP.
For some reason, I like the look of stock HC much better. It's sleeker. Sense is very bubbly looking.
Also, it's very annoying that I'm missing the core android apps like email, calendar, internet.
The menus in HC look much sleeker than sense, which is cluttered with large fonts
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Possible, but lots of work and not likely. No benefit to it,
The so called stock, AOSP ROM is a myth. There is no such thing. No functional ROM without the hardware vendors files and code that interface the hardware to the rest of the OS. What Google produces as Android runs on no actual device , none , nada. It's only the GUI and API. Leaving the kernel, and drivers and radio sections at a minimum to the hardware builders.
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt CM stock AOSP? then again you may be right cause CM9 sounds soo good it might as well be mythical lol
If you do a little research you will find that you can customize the fonts and backgrounds and many other aspects of sense or any launcher you choose. You can also switch launchers if you like, even on the fly. You don;t need a new ROM to do that. its personal preference, but I love the Sense widgets and for me , they do more and function better than stock which I find boring and for example stock email, not very good.
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt CM stock AOSP? then again you may be right cause CM9 sounds soo good it might as well be mythical lol
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OK let me correct you. CM7 and now CM9 are far far from stock. That was the intent and that is their appeal. They are based around non-stock launchers, ADW for CM7 and Tribuche for CM9 and have countless mods, additions and special features that are not stock.
And Motorola CEO (now owned by Goggle) has declared that the "mythical AOSP ROM does not exist" and nobody wants boring stock Andorid devices.
So it must be true......
At any rate , expect Google to add in even more vendor customization hooks so that vendors can differentiate their products.
In my opinion the sense launcher is just better than the stock hc. I like stock browser more than HTC browser, as well as keyboard. So I switch out the bits and pieces I like. There will never be an asop room for this device. To each his or her own but the pieces to modify your set up are available if you look. Pick and choose what fits your preference
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The sense widgets aren't resizable, that's their main issue.
I do like the HTC launcher though.
Any suggestions on how to get the stock menus? Or not simple enough? I know how to load most of the stock apps
Stock menus is not easy, and I do not believe anyone had managed it yet
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stock menus, no, but there is a entire thread on mods and skinning sense on XDA somewhere
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For some reason, I like the look of stock HC much better. It's sleeker. Sense is very bubbly looking.
Also, it's very annoying that I'm missing the core android apps like email, calendar, internet.
The menus in HC look much sleeker than sense, which is cluttered with large fonts
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How do you differentiate between sense and hc? You can't ”uninstall” it, so how what is ”stock hc” and how can/does it look any different?
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I would assume talking about launcher, widgets, and apps like email.
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IF you look at the Acer A100, it uses the stock HC launcher. Not a lot of difference, but you don;t get the Sense widgets, Instead there are some stock HC widgets and some Acer widgets.
If you look in the LeeDroid HC thread, you see that Lee has included the stock HC launcher in his ROM and you cna switch between stock and HTC. There are also some neat tweaks for the app drawer there
For those of you looking for some serious GUI tweaks and lots of options, keep an eye on Paul of MoDaCo fame here on this thread. Once he gives Flyer HC the MRC treatment , you will be in for a treat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251165
I'm currently on LeeDrOiD's Gingerbread, rooted and all. I installed "System app remover" and it was easy to remove the Sense lockscreen. After reboot, I now have the raw Android lockscreen. In this advanced app remover, the actual "Sense" is listed, but it warns me that it's a "key module". If I remove it and reboot, will I get freeze and need to re-roll and old Nandroid backup? Just curious. And oh, I'm not really asking for user interface (running different launcher anyways), but it's really more about the fact that rumor has it that the Sense backbone is what's making HTC devices having problem with certain Bluetooth devices, for instance the Wii remote controller, which will not pair as easily on e.g. my Galaxy S3 LTE. On HTC phones, you need to install extra bloat software etc. So, any ideas?
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Will there ever be aosp for flyer?
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Funny, I was just wondering this a few minutes ago. As cool as sense is, It lags like a sob. I sure hope it will, HTC devices usually get CM7 support so we'll see. But until we get that US RUU I'm not flashing anything.
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I doubt there will be an AOSP build because it will lack the stylus integration on the Flyer.
Curious what you see lag on. The Flyer currently has the fastest processor of any tablet on the market. I find the Flyer to be very snappy. Most of Sense is just in the HTC launcher and associated widgets. You are free to use any of the 3rd party launchers instead and there are some very good ones out there like ADW EX, GO Launcher, and Launcher Pro Plus. The stock android launcher on GB is a real dog meaning very vanilla and ugly. CM7 Uses ADW instead of stock GB launcher. The stock HC launcher is not bad. The HC browser is a lot better than the GB too..
If you feel Sense is slowing you down, don't use it and use one of the 3rd party launchers instead. You can even use one of the home switcher utilities to switch between HTC sense and a different launcher on the fly and have totally different looks. The Flyer has plenty of memory so that's not a concern.
Maybe just a way to remove sense it doesn't allow use of my bluetooth keyboard or my Zeemote. The alternative is to make work around with Aosp but the later is harder.
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Hummm, which keyboard do you have. Sense really has nothing to do with keyboards, that is built into Android. My bluetooth keyboard works fine with the stock Flyer. I have a HP keyboard and an Apple keyboard, both work great. As far as the remote, the functions would need a keymap , which is probably doable.
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Curious what you see lag on. The Flyer currently has the fastest processor of any tablet on the market. I find the Flyer to be very snappy. Most of Sense is just in the HTC launcher and associated widgets. You are free to use any of the 3rd party launchers instead and there are some very good ones out there like ADW EX, GO Launcher, and Launcher Pro Plus. The stock android launcher on GB is a real dog meaning very vanilla and ugly. CM7 Uses ADW instead of stock GB launcher. The stock HC launcher is not bad. The HC browser is a lot better than the GB too..
If you feel Sense is slowing you down, don't use it and use one of the 3rd party launchers instead. You can even use one of the home switcher utilities to switch between HTC sense and a different launcher on the fly and have totally different looks. The Flyer has plenty of memory so that's not a concern.
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Where does it lag? Well, where do I start? Let’s take a look at the home screens. The widgets are down right beautiful, no denying that, but when scrolling through home screens you’ll notice lag as the widgets auto update, not a completely fluid experience. I know I could always do without those widgets or leave those home screens blank but I shouldn’t have to. Paginated scrolling is another PITA, I realize what it does by design but it makes navigating choppy nonetheless. The scrolling view isn’t much better and resets itself on restart.
I’ve also run ADW-Ex on my flyer but it’s still not as fluid as I like. I think my Bionic is to blame for that though, it fly’s by comparison. I’m no Android newb and I know a thing or two about system tweaks. There’s no question that AOSP ROMs are faster and lighter than sense ROMs. The sense framework is deep rooted and heavy, hence the 300MB ROMs versus the sub 100MB aosp ROMS.
I’m not banging on sense, I’ve owned an Inspire 4G and Thunderbolt so I knew what I was getting myself into. Sense 3.0 is a better experience overall compared to 2.1 but for me the novelty wears off after a couple of days, with the exception of the lock screen, which is insanely polished. On my sense devices I’ve run every ROM and kernel imaginable and always ended going completely CM7 or a de-bloated and de-sensed ROM.
I’m willing to live with sense, because after all I did buy this tablet but AOSP would be welcome. I'm hoping these issues I've experienced will be stomped out when HC is released. Fingers crossed.
Well I think the sense widget behave pretty typically of android widgets.
It's always a trade off between data and battery usage and background update or on demand update. Vanilla ROMs will run faster perhaps, but doing what? If you are content with basic email and browsing then its fine, but once you load it up with apps and widgets, pretty much the same with less functionality (there is not a decent email widget on the market, for example).
After all, Sense or vaniila it's built on android and it is what it is. Not saying android is bad, its very good, but its built for limited hardware (compared to any laptop or PC) and there are trades to make things work in that environment. The HC browser is a big improvement and down the road Chrome is coming.
I think HTC has themselves in a bind though because of Sense's tight integration with underlying android data structures it slows their ability to roll out software updates. Of course the advantage is that Sense widgets often do what no 3rd party apps can do.
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Oh, and to answer the original post.
There is no reason why a motivated developer could not compile a AOSP vanilla Gingerbread ROM for the Flyer right now. Gingerbread source is available and HTC kernel source is available, so it is certainly doable if anyone desires to take on the project. But in most cases extra performance doesn't come from AOSP, it comes from custom kernels where the developer has fine tuned the kernel to the specific hardware for better performance, battery life, enable additional hardware features, etc.
I disagree with sense simply being an overlay, its more of an overhaul. Take a look at the framework and jars, sense is everywhere. That's why many sense ports to other devices have failed. It's more than just widgets and a launcher. It's built on Android but it's not like touchwiz or blur.
While I do agree that the kernel is a major factor the sense ui and its widgets are clunkier. I'll take a loaded aosp rom over a loaded sense rom in a speed test any day.
There is a downside to aosp, it's boring.
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My 2 cents on the topic:
AOSP for Flyer will only be available after ICS - probably 8-10 months from now.
I agree that aosp is boring and I don't find sense at all slow. I like updating widgets and notifications.
Maybe I shouldn't say "slow ", more like "slow-ish"
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I expect as more and more of the unique features from sense find their way into base android like they have in Honeycomb and ICS, that HTC will extract themselves from the frame work mods since the widgets can accomplish most of the same things without all that interaction. When android first appeared it basically did nothing and so HTC wrote sense which made their phones a lot more attractive than say the original Moto Droid which was a real plain-jane software wise. Without HTC sense and Cyanogen Mods custom ROMs , android certainly would not be where it is today.
Now that a lot of things are built-into Android APIs and exposed so that anyone can do a pretty good widget, I'm pretty sure HTC would rather concentrate on hardware with slight customized software like every other vendor. But , Google now owns Motorola and those new phones will have the inside track on software features. Plus Google has moved toward closing some aspects of certain apps like gmail so that its more difficult for outside vendors to build quality apps or widgets that interact with some parts of android.
Unless HTC's "Open Sense" effort really takes off, I would not be surprised to see them drop sense and produce devices with a more vanilla android sooner than later.
^^^Well put.
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Is the pen integration dependand on software from HTC. If someone were to port CM7 or even CM9, would we lose all pen functionality. Could it be somehow ported over from the HTC framework?
Currently the stylus depends on HTC's Stylus SDK and is heavily tied into HTC sense, but in Android ICS there is native support for generic digital stylus, so its conceivable that some functionality could be ported.
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Hummm, which keyboard do you have. Sense really has nothing to do with keyboards, that is built into Android. My bluetooth keyboard works fine with the stock Flyer. I have a HP keyboard and an Apple keyboard, both work great. As far as the remote, the functions would need a keymap , which is probably doable.
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Verbatim 97537 Wireless Bluetooth Mobile Keyboard and Zeemote Js1. Something deep within Sense prevents pairing to these devices I've tried many drivers as well but all have failed. I'm sure if the flyer would accept these devices keymap would-be no issue. I'm currently on Io ROM and can't wait till release of a US WiFi rom.
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Io ROM? Is that a custom ROM? What happens exactly when you try to pair? Do other devices, for instance headphones pair properly? There is nothing in Sense (Sense is basically the application launcher plus widgets) that deals with Bluetooth. There are plenty of things in any particular ROM build that can affect Bluetooth.
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Io ROM? Is that a custom ROM? What happens exactly when you try to pair? Do other devices, for instance headphones pair properly? There is nothing in Sense (Sense is basically the application launcher plus widgets) that deals with Bluetooth. There are plenty of things in any particular ROM build that can affect Bluetooth.
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Yes custom ROM but on all dev Roms I've tried this happens have also tried apps such as bluez ime. I do gaming and development its nice to be able to mount flyer hands free ie: via controllers.
Sorry, to answer question only on these types of devices do I have problems. For example my WiFi Bluetooth and slave components do not seem affected I use my Motorola rocker HD Bluetooth headphones quite a bit with the flyer and have no problem, also my big bulky mac WiFi keyboard works as well.
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Anyone know where I can get the completly vanilla stock honeycomb apks, I mean things like the launcher, lock screen and such.
I'm trying to de-sense my honeycomb view, I'd like all stock honeycomb, but I'm having a hell of a time finding them.
Look for system dumps from the motorola Xoom or something similar that is AOSP HC.
That's what I've been doing.. So far I got rid of all of Sense but the Sense lock screen. Whenever I delete HtcLockScreen.apk I have no way to login because it appears as if there is no lock screen at that point, not even the default.
Wonder if there is something else I need to do..
Hmm, if you get it all together let me know and I can make a script to de-sensify it and add all honeycomb crap using adb from recovery.
Yes you can find all the stock Honeycomb apps in a Motorola Xoom rom. Everything should work without glitches except the settings, browser, and lockscreen. To get the browser working you need to delete some kind of log (I don't remember which, but if you logcat you'll be able to see it). I found yet a way to get the Honeycomb settings, and a solution to the lockscreen problem. I suspect HTC took that aspect out. You can buy Ripple lock from the market if you really wish to have something similar to that experience.
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You do realize there is no such thing as a functional truly AOSP ROM don't you?
You want to build a vanilla ICS ROM, here's a tutorial. Oh, you might notice, some key items from the OEM (HTC) are missing... Like I said, there's no such thing as a AOSP without the OEM. But it's a good learning experience. If it were as simple as just compiling Google source there would be a million vanilla ROMs out there now. It's not that simple.
HOW-TO Compile ICS AOSP 4.0.3 (XOOM/GNEX/NEXUS S)
http://forums.androidcentral.com/hacking/144804-how-compile-ics-aosp-4-0-3-xoom-gnex-nexus-s.html
Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
No Sense to remove Sense?
There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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Thanks for your thoughts!
Removing Sense from an HTC device is like buying a Ferrari and saying, "I love this car, but I'm gonna trash the engine and install this motor my brother-in-law Billy built in his basement."
I use the stock launcher; I like the look and feel of it. Lee makes that available via a different file and it's just an app install. I do occassionally miss the Calendar and Mail widgets, but Jorte is a suitable repalcement for me and the Mail app pulls all my Mail account up properly.
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Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
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On my previous HTC device I never liked Sense except for the widgets. However, on the Flyer I am using it and rather enjoy it. My opinion would be to keep it on, use it for a while, try out the stock launcher provided as a comparison, and if for some reason you don't want it than there is always the option to remove. One of the things that does bug me about Sense compared to other custom launchers is no resize of widgets and no native folder support.
Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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That sucks, but thanks very much for the info
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Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
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You can freeze our uninstall the sense launcher along with any apps/widgets you don't use if you have a third party launcher installed. I've done this. I wouldn't go uninstalling things without knowing what it is first.
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That requires root I assume?
Yes and a lot of research as you might disable a vital component on accident and then you have to really flash a new Rom.
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That requires root I assume?
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Yes, to freeze sense and other widgets u need to root. Wish u didn't. Hate having to give up twc tv on phone and renting movies thru google play. But I guess torrents and better multitasking will make up for it...
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As stated above, you must be rooted to do this stuff, but in case you wanted to know...
I uninstalled just about every sense element I could find in TitaniumBackup and use Apex launcher in place of the stock one. Interestingly, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the stock ICS lockscreen popped up after uninstalling the sense lockscreen, so I don't have to run any 3rd party LS app. Also I have uninstalled the stock browser and clock, replacing them with the apks I pulled from CM9, mostly because I like the look and feel a little better, but also sense alarm wouldn't display on the ICS LS--CM9 alarm does. I had the CM9 message app on my LTE also, but found I was unable to send or receive MMS. I didn't really investigate too much further to try to get it working and I don't know if it is even possible. EX Dialer offers a more appealing phone app than does the sense version as far as I'm concerned.
There are ways to make your phone look differently, but as you said sense eats up the background, and I feel the CM9 apps run a little lighter. I enjoy a much better experience without the Sense stuff as it feels a little closer to AOSP now.
Good luck should you decide to try some of the suggestions, and remember, always always have a backup.
How did you remove the location icon?
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No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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What kind of vital things? Is it stable enought to use as a daily?
The part of sense that is still running is the 35MB shell or so of basic sense functionality throughout the whole phone.
You're not able to get rid of that, but if you use another launcher you already not loading up the launcher portion of sense. If you used the sense launcher, you'd see Sense go up to over 100MB, since the basic sense of 35 + the launcher of about 70 something will kick you over 100MB. So the fact that it still sits in the 30s shows you're not using the launcher, but Apex or Nova or whatever is probably taking up 50-70MB itself.
Right, so really no win unless you root and disable... thanks for the input all.
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Thanks for your post. I like AOSP so much better, and hadn't even thought of removing htclockscreen and also using click and browser. Gonna give it a shot. Can't wait til we get AOKP functional.
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So I'm loving this One, but some of the stock apps I'm not liking (primarily MMS, mail, browser, keyboard, launcher)
I've installed Nova, Chrome, Swiftkey, chomp, and gmail, which are doing a great job of replacing and I've nearly got the phone in a good place.
My problem is that the Sense lockscreen still shows the stock apps, including indicators for new text messages i've already read via chomp. Now that I'm using Nova Launcher, I can't figure out how to modify the sense lockscreen to change the apps that are at the base there.
Almost all of this is being done because while I like blinkfeed enough, I already use Flipboard and don't want that as my initial screen and it seems like Sense isn't going to allow us to have a more traditional homescreen with blinkfeed to the left or right. I'm also not a huge fan of swapping between modes of blinkfeed+icons and traditional home screen.
I'm posting this here in T-mo General looking for advice because flashing another ROM isn't an option for me. My understanding is that flashing a ROM will lose the wifi calling capability, and that is really important for me. What would you guys do?
You should only lose wifi calling if you flash a AOSP based ROM. I understand that you want to "de-sense" you're phone so an AOSP ROM would be your best bet.
This phone is brand new so development is still slow right now but I bet you should start seeing some Sense-based ROM's without all the Sense bloat start popping up soon
In regards to your lockscreen issue, have you looked into using a lockscreen replacement like WidgetLocker?
Did you replace the icons in the dock on Rosie (Sense launcher).
I'm still using the Sense launcher and my lockscreen shows what I have on my dock.
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You should only lose wifi calling if you flash a AOSP based ROM. I understand that you want to "de-sense" you're phone so an AOSP ROM would be your best bet.
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Won't you potentially also lose some camera and other specialized functionality relative to the hardware?
That is correct. You will just have stock android camera without Zoe and all that jazz
I usually always go AOSP but I really like the camera features here. Gonna be a tough call
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My understanding is that flashing a ROM will lose the wifi calling capability, and that is really important for me. What would you guys do?
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You will lose wifi calling if you flash a non-tmobile rom, like one of the M7 HTC One roms or an AT&T rom.
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That is correct. You will just have stock android camera without Zoe and all that jazz
I usually always go AOSP but I really like the camera features here. Gonna be a tough call
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Is it possible to flash the camera apk? is there a camera apk or is it part of sense itself?
I'm gonna take an educated guess based on my experience with Samsung. Usually custom camera apps are deeply integrated in custom android versions (sense, tw, etc). You can pull the apk and may even get it to install but my guess is that it will FC
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If you look in the AT&T sub forum of the One, there is a ahpla of CM10.1 which means that CM10.1 is being worked on right now for the One. I am sure it will work with all HTC Ones once it is done. I would give it a month or two and we should be pretty good off. It is still really early in the game.