Anyone know where I can get the completly vanilla stock honeycomb apks, I mean things like the launcher, lock screen and such.
I'm trying to de-sense my honeycomb view, I'd like all stock honeycomb, but I'm having a hell of a time finding them.
Look for system dumps from the motorola Xoom or something similar that is AOSP HC.
That's what I've been doing.. So far I got rid of all of Sense but the Sense lock screen. Whenever I delete HtcLockScreen.apk I have no way to login because it appears as if there is no lock screen at that point, not even the default.
Wonder if there is something else I need to do..
Hmm, if you get it all together let me know and I can make a script to de-sensify it and add all honeycomb crap using adb from recovery.
Yes you can find all the stock Honeycomb apps in a Motorola Xoom rom. Everything should work without glitches except the settings, browser, and lockscreen. To get the browser working you need to delete some kind of log (I don't remember which, but if you logcat you'll be able to see it). I found yet a way to get the Honeycomb settings, and a solution to the lockscreen problem. I suspect HTC took that aspect out. You can buy Ripple lock from the market if you really wish to have something similar to that experience.
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You do realize there is no such thing as a functional truly AOSP ROM don't you?
You want to build a vanilla ICS ROM, here's a tutorial. Oh, you might notice, some key items from the OEM (HTC) are missing... Like I said, there's no such thing as a AOSP without the OEM. But it's a good learning experience. If it were as simple as just compiling Google source there would be a million vanilla ROMs out there now. It's not that simple.
HOW-TO Compile ICS AOSP 4.0.3 (XOOM/GNEX/NEXUS S)
http://forums.androidcentral.com/hacking/144804-how-compile-ics-aosp-4-0-3-xoom-gnex-nexus-s.html
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I am currently running the OTA 2.1 rooted rom.. been liking it, but not LOVING sense anymore.. seems to just lag a lot.
Im trying to find a rom that has the following:
The HTC weather/clock widget. (i love this.. dont know why)
Working google maps/nav
working Live wallpapers with jcase's opengl patch.
working/non crashing google voice.
facebook integration / maybe friendstream?
flan lock screen (or working lock 2.0.. I found with sense and lock 2.0 it was always buggy/laggy when the phone would ring.. no matter how many times I tried to unlock it i would miss the call)
has anyone seen this all in a rom? would love some suggestions.
Ty
DjCalvin said:
I am currently running the OTA 2.1 rooted rom.. been liking it, but not LOVING sense anymore.. seems to just lag a lot.
Im trying to find a rom that has the following:
The HTC weather/clock widget. (i love this.. dont know why)
Working google maps/nav
working Live wallpapers with jcase's opengl patch.
working/non crashing google voice.
facebook integration / maybe friendstream?
flan lock screen (or working lock 2.0.. I found with sense and lock 2.0 it was always buggy/laggy when the phone would ring.. no matter how many times I tried to unlock it i would miss the call)
has anyone seen this all in a rom? would love some suggestions.
Ty
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well you cannot get rid of sense and have the htc weather widget. there are vanilla roms (which removes ALL sense related items) but you would lose the weather you want. there is also a senseless theme you can apply to any rom to remove sense related stuff. errors i have seen with jcase's opengl patch mess up navi. i had lwp for a few days and removed it as it just eats away battery and does lag the phone up.
you can get the n1 lock screen on any ROM as all you have to do is delete the htclockscreen.apk and it will give you that. you just need to flash to all the differnt ROMS, make NAND backups of the ones you like and find one that fits you and then keep it. i flash almost daily as these devs keep putting sick ass ROMs out, but I am currently at aloyious v6 as i need nav and dont care for lwp. but he does have a version out that does have lwp and not nav. so you do have a choice.
So Far today I have flashed:
Vanilla Rom - didnt have the htc clock.. I really like that.. After reading some more I came across the same conclusion, if I want the htc clock.. I need sense.
loaded up jcase's patch for opengl.. ran wallpapers for about 20 min, and yep.. had enough... I guess I do really like sense?
EvilEris1.1 - google login bug - that was a show stopper for me, other than that it seemed fast.
Sensable 2.0 - Currently playing with and the only issue I have had so far is that the text in the dialer is grey and you can barely read it.
Im going to make a nandroid backup of this one and try aloyious v6
IS there a way to name the nandroid backups? it uses the date as the name. would love something a little more intuative.
Thanks for the response and the tips.
Yes, you can change the name. Just plugin your phone via USB and hit mount and then go to the NAND directory. There will be another dir and then just open that one and then all your NAND backups will be there. I name mine after each one as I cannot remember which ROM I flashed before which.
Also, dont forget to wipe data and dalvik when going back to a NAND backup.
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Yes, you can change the name. Just plugin your phone via USB and hit mount and then go to the NAND directory. There will be another dir and then just open that one and then all your NAND backups will be there. I name mine after each one as I cannot remember which ROM I flashed before which.
Also, dont forget to wipe data and dalvik when going back to a NAND backup.
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Ok, cool.. I didnt know if it needed the DIR name to be the date in order to work.. I was working off a spreadhseet with
THIS DIR = THIS ROM
Sooo much easier now
Thank you again.
Seeing how the time is on the lockscreen and also in the not. bar, I decided that I could live without the flip clock taking up half of my home screen. Here's what I did.
Flashed Eris_Official 0.81T2
Flashed Senless patch
falshed Nexus One patch
flashed Nexus Launcher Wtih LP's patch.
Now I enjoy a mostly vanilla rom, with the HTC dialer, nexus launcher and live wallpapers and it's smooth as butter and bug free.
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Seeing how the time is on the lockscreen and also in the not. bar, I decided that I could live without the flip clock taking up half of my home screen. Here's what I did.
Flashed Eris_Official 0.81T2
Flashed Senless patch
falshed Nexus One patch
flashed Nexus Launcher Wtih LP's patch.
Now I enjoy a mostly vanilla rom, with the HTC dialer, nexus launcher and live wallpapers and it's smooth as butter and bug free.
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How about google maps navigation? I keep reading about the nav bug with live wallpapers.
I've heard that too, but haven't noticed a problem.
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Alright, so I am getting really sick of the stock ROM on my HD2. I disabled the SenseUI and turned on the Windows Default scrolly text interface. I hate SenseUI, it is way too busy, and I don't use my phone to check stocks or weather, so I don't care about having those things on my start screen.
I went searching through the pages and it seems that every ROM here is using Sense as it's base. I will open up two dozen tabs and go through them quickly as I will X them out the moment I see that flippy clock thing. Are there any ROMs that don't have any resemblance to Sense at all? I just want something simple and clean.
(Edit: And I didn't mean to post this here. This was supposed to go in the ROM Development subforum.)
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Alright, so I am getting really sick of the stock ROM on my HD2. I disabled the SenseUI and turned on the Windows Default scrolly text interface. I hate SenseUI, it is way too busy, and I don't use my phone to check stocks or weather, so I don't care about having those things on my start screen.
I went searching through the pages and it seems that every ROM here is using Sense as it's base. I will open up two dozen tabs and go through them quickly as I will X them out the moment I see that flippy clock thing. Are there any ROMs that don't have any resemblance to Sense at all? I just want something simple and clean.
(Edit: And I didn't mean to post this here. This was supposed to go in the ROM Development subforum.)
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1- cht2 is as far from sense as you can get. your imagination is your limitation.
2- titanium is none-sense based
3- there is a maxsense series of roms
Why don't you just disable sense in the settings/personal menu?
This should give you clean windows. Also, there are a number of other options than Sense but these are a cab install not on a rom.
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Why don't you just disable sense in the settings/personal menu?
This should give you clean windows. Also, there are a number of other options than Sense but these are a cab install not on a rom.
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I already said that I did that. But even with Sense disabled the stock ROM still sucks. My phone will freeze for, like, 4 minutes every time I get a text message for instance.
jsmccabe78, thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
you can select titanium rom without sanse
Is there anyway to completely remove sense from the flyer?
Or a rom that is just stock honeycomb without sense?
I'm talking about everything, even the menus.
Possible, but lots of work and not likely. No benefit to it,
The so called stock, AOSP ROM is a myth. There is no such thing. No functional ROM without the hardware vendors files and code that interface the hardware to the rest of the OS. What Google produces as Android runs on no actual device , none , nada. It's only the GUI and API. Leaving the kernel, and drivers and radio sections at a minimum to the hardware builders.
Thanks for the quick reply. Just didn't want to waste time if it wasn't a simple rom
The following custom ROM removes some Sense elements. As I haven't tried it myself, don't know if the menus are re-themed to look more AOSP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411170
As already mentioned, the Sense framework is deeply integrated into the ROM, so removing it is a lot of work, as is porting in vanilla Android elements.
But my main point is that it gains you nothing and lose lots (pen, notes integration, widgets). No speed, no memory (we got lots) . and you can have the look without doing anything hard, you don't even need to root.
I already got your main point. No need to rehash it. I agree the the Flyer has enough CPU and memory muscle to run Sense smoothly, which was not the case with past devices, especially phones (but even newer phones are starting to have the specs to run Sense very smoothly). But many people just don't like the Sense aesthetics and prefer the Vanilla Android look. I was just addressing the original question by the OP.
For some reason, I like the look of stock HC much better. It's sleeker. Sense is very bubbly looking.
Also, it's very annoying that I'm missing the core android apps like email, calendar, internet.
The menus in HC look much sleeker than sense, which is cluttered with large fonts
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Possible, but lots of work and not likely. No benefit to it,
The so called stock, AOSP ROM is a myth. There is no such thing. No functional ROM without the hardware vendors files and code that interface the hardware to the rest of the OS. What Google produces as Android runs on no actual device , none , nada. It's only the GUI and API. Leaving the kernel, and drivers and radio sections at a minimum to the hardware builders.
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt CM stock AOSP? then again you may be right cause CM9 sounds soo good it might as well be mythical lol
If you do a little research you will find that you can customize the fonts and backgrounds and many other aspects of sense or any launcher you choose. You can also switch launchers if you like, even on the fly. You don;t need a new ROM to do that. its personal preference, but I love the Sense widgets and for me , they do more and function better than stock which I find boring and for example stock email, not very good.
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt CM stock AOSP? then again you may be right cause CM9 sounds soo good it might as well be mythical lol
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OK let me correct you. CM7 and now CM9 are far far from stock. That was the intent and that is their appeal. They are based around non-stock launchers, ADW for CM7 and Tribuche for CM9 and have countless mods, additions and special features that are not stock.
And Motorola CEO (now owned by Goggle) has declared that the "mythical AOSP ROM does not exist" and nobody wants boring stock Andorid devices.
So it must be true......
At any rate , expect Google to add in even more vendor customization hooks so that vendors can differentiate their products.
In my opinion the sense launcher is just better than the stock hc. I like stock browser more than HTC browser, as well as keyboard. So I switch out the bits and pieces I like. There will never be an asop room for this device. To each his or her own but the pieces to modify your set up are available if you look. Pick and choose what fits your preference
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The sense widgets aren't resizable, that's their main issue.
I do like the HTC launcher though.
Any suggestions on how to get the stock menus? Or not simple enough? I know how to load most of the stock apps
Stock menus is not easy, and I do not believe anyone had managed it yet
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stock menus, no, but there is a entire thread on mods and skinning sense on XDA somewhere
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For some reason, I like the look of stock HC much better. It's sleeker. Sense is very bubbly looking.
Also, it's very annoying that I'm missing the core android apps like email, calendar, internet.
The menus in HC look much sleeker than sense, which is cluttered with large fonts
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How do you differentiate between sense and hc? You can't ”uninstall” it, so how what is ”stock hc” and how can/does it look any different?
JB
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I would assume talking about launcher, widgets, and apps like email.
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IF you look at the Acer A100, it uses the stock HC launcher. Not a lot of difference, but you don;t get the Sense widgets, Instead there are some stock HC widgets and some Acer widgets.
If you look in the LeeDroid HC thread, you see that Lee has included the stock HC launcher in his ROM and you cna switch between stock and HTC. There are also some neat tweaks for the app drawer there
For those of you looking for some serious GUI tweaks and lots of options, keep an eye on Paul of MoDaCo fame here on this thread. Once he gives Flyer HC the MRC treatment , you will be in for a treat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251165
I'm currently on LeeDrOiD's Gingerbread, rooted and all. I installed "System app remover" and it was easy to remove the Sense lockscreen. After reboot, I now have the raw Android lockscreen. In this advanced app remover, the actual "Sense" is listed, but it warns me that it's a "key module". If I remove it and reboot, will I get freeze and need to re-roll and old Nandroid backup? Just curious. And oh, I'm not really asking for user interface (running different launcher anyways), but it's really more about the fact that rumor has it that the Sense backbone is what's making HTC devices having problem with certain Bluetooth devices, for instance the Wii remote controller, which will not pair as easily on e.g. my Galaxy S3 LTE. On HTC phones, you need to install extra bloat software etc. So, any ideas?
Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
No Sense to remove Sense?
There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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Thanks for your thoughts!
Removing Sense from an HTC device is like buying a Ferrari and saying, "I love this car, but I'm gonna trash the engine and install this motor my brother-in-law Billy built in his basement."
I use the stock launcher; I like the look and feel of it. Lee makes that available via a different file and it's just an app install. I do occassionally miss the Calendar and Mail widgets, but Jorte is a suitable repalcement for me and the Mail app pulls all my Mail account up properly.
JOLiu said:
Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
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On my previous HTC device I never liked Sense except for the widgets. However, on the Flyer I am using it and rather enjoy it. My opinion would be to keep it on, use it for a while, try out the stock launcher provided as a comparison, and if for some reason you don't want it than there is always the option to remove. One of the things that does bug me about Sense compared to other custom launchers is no resize of widgets and no native folder support.
I've done a few searches but don't really see anything so forgive me if I missed anything, but I was wondering if there were any aosp style lockscreen mods for the evo lte? Would it have to be an entire skin or theme or could there just be a mod to the lockscreen itself to remove the sense lock and replace with the aosp lock? Thanks in adavance
not sure... but some sense roms include like viper rom.
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Flash OMJs modpack and only select aosp recent apps. Its aroma, so you can pick and choose which mods you want.
Granted you're rooted and everything...
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There used to be an htclockscreen.apk in system/spp in older versions of sense, and you could just remove/rename it and get straight android lockreen (because it IS there, under the sense stuff). But I think its more complex now, involving fusion.apk and idlescreen.apk. At least, sense 3.0 used those apks. I only had sense on this device for a brief minute, so not sure on sense 4.0. In any case, just a little additional info for anyone wanting to dig/explore lol
From my Evo LTE, yup.
scottspa74 said:
There used to be an htclockscreen.apk in system/spp in older versions of sense, and you could just remove/rename it and get straight android lockreen (because it IS there, under the sense stuff). But I think its more complex now, involving fusion.apk and idlescreen.apk. At least, sense 3.0 used those apks. I only had sense on this device for a brief minute, so not sure on sense 4.0. In any case, just a little additional info for anyone wanting to dig/explore lol
From my Evo LTE, yup.
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For anyone else interested this worked. I went into root explorer opened system then app then deleted the HtcLockScreen.apk (after long press and copying then pasting to sdcard2 just incase). This should be obvious but you will lose your app shortcuts. You get the basic AOSP style lockscreen with the clock display and the unlock or open camera in the ring, and camera does open when selected. Nothing else seems to be affected yet but I'm not knowledgeable enough to even know if anything else would be. Its still early and haven't received any calls or texts yet to see if the notification box shows on the lockscreen or not but I would assume it won't since I'd think the sense lockscreen would be needed to complete path for those. Thanks for the info.
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Confirmed that the notification boxes do not pop up on lockscreen for texts which I expected.
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