Catch-22 - Xperia Z3v General

So they are getting root for locked bootloaders over in the Z3 forum. I imagine it would work for our phones, except that to do that someone with an already rooted device would need to provide the info they need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598

BladeRunner said:
So they are getting root for locked bootloaders over in the Z3 forum. I imagine it would work for our phones, except that to do that someone with an already rooted device would need to provide the info they need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
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You should probably study up a little before posting

thegrants82 said:
You shoot probably study up a little before posting
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Do you a have a point or anything constructively to add?

BladeRunner said:
Do you a have a point or anything constructively to add?
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No but obviously neither do you on bootloaders and rooting.

thegrants82 said:
No but obviously neither do you on bootloaders and rooting.
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Do you understand what I mean by a catch-22?

BladeRunner said:
Do you understand what I mean by a catch-22?
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I understand your post but you don't know what your talking about.

thegrants82 said:
I understand your post but you don't know what your talking about.
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I would say that you don't understand my post. They have found a root exploit for the Z3 (or at least certain variants of it at this point) which is exactly what we z3v owners are looking for, however for the devs to make it work for our phones someone with an unlocked boot loader and root would have to supply them with the info they need. Quite obviously we don't have an unlocked boot loader to get root hence the catch-22

BladeRunner said:
I would say that you don't understand my post. They have found a root exploit for the Z3 (or at least certain variants of it at this point) which is exactly what we z3v owners are looking for, however for the devs to make it work for our phones someone with an unlocked boot loader and root would have to supply them with the info they need. Quite obviously we don't have an unlocked boot loader to get root hence the catch-22
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Good luck.

thegrants82 said:
Good luck.
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:what:

You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.

1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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That's the problem here. He has no idea.

thegrants82 said:
That's the problem here. He has no idea.
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apparently you haven't been following the thread. Those that are developing the root method need the adb output from someone that already has root. Some of the Z3 variants already had root by unlocking the bootloader.

1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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The root method they are working on is for locked bootloaders, they need the output from someone that previously achieved root by unlocking the bootloader. It is beneficial on Sony devices to have root without unlocking the bootloader so you can save your DRM keys/back up the TA partion. Also rooting without unlocking doesn't disable some on the camera functions.

BladeRunner said:
apparently you haven't been following the thread. Those that are developing the root method need the adb output from someone that already has root. Some of the Z3 variants already had root by unlocking the bootloader.
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Lol I had two members msg me about how to add you to an ignore list. Didn't know about that so good luck to you and please stop posting about topics that you know nothing about. If you are wanting a high post count then just welcome new members. Judging by your posts I don't think its a secret that other members already know your deal. Later on!

thegrants82 said:
Lol I had two members msg me about how to add you to an ignore list. Didn't know about that so good luck to you and please stop posting about topics that you know nothing about. If you are wanting a high post count then just welcome new members. Judging by your posts I don't think its a secret that other members already know your deal. Later on!
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It's pretty obvious that you are the one that just doesn't get it.

1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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not everyone would need to provide the adb output, just one person with the device. So, if by a miracle, one person had a z3v with an unlockable boot loader, rooted their phone and provided the adb output then they might be able to make the root tool work on the z3v's that have locked boot loaders, but since no one, afaik, has a z3v with an unlocked boot loader then we can't achieve root via the root tool. Thus the catch-22

BladeRunner said:
not everyone would need to provide the adb output, just one person with the device. So, if by a miracle, one person had a z3v with an unlockable boot loader, rooted their phone and provided the adb output then they might be able to make the root tool work on the z3v's that have locked boot loaders, but since no one, afaik, has a z3v with an unlocked boot loader then we can't achieve root via the root tool. Thus the catch-22
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Yeah I got the reference, if I had root so would everyone else here cause I would share it with everyone and claim the three thousand dollar bounty offered.

1linuxfreak said:
Yeah I got the reference, if I had root so would everyone else here cause I would share it with everyone and claim the three thousand dollar bounty offered.
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I suspect we won't have to worry about anyone collecting that bounty in the near future.

So I am npt that experienced when it comes to this stuff but im pretty sure verizon does NOT have an unlocked bootloader. I have the s4 and am looking into the z3v. I know people are still currently trying to break it. But the s4 can use towel root. Obviously its not that simple here since its not done yet. But seeing as this is still fairly new. They will have root sometime soon.
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If you had read the thread, there's no catch 22. The exploits they're leveraging were patched on the Z3v and TMo Z3 prior to release. It was stated multiple times.

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[Q] Any updates with rooting ND7?

Just looking to root the most current OTA, my search so far makes me believe its not possible. Is this true or am I missing something?
Thnak you!
I'm wondering the same thing. I recently had to get a replacement phone and unfortunately it's running stock 4.4.2. First time I've ever had a phone with a bootloader that couldn't be unlocked. I would like to at least have my phone rooted. Anyone out there willing to share a root solution with us?
Tkun said:
I'm wondering the same thing. I recently had to get a replacement phone and unfortunately it's running stock 4.4.2. First time I've ever had a phone with a bootloader that couldn't be unlocked. I would like to at least have my phone rooted. Anyone out there willing to share a root solution with us?
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Yeah it really sucks. I need root to fully make use of my chromecast. A bunch of devices received screen mirroring but not the note 2. Such a sinple thing but so difficult to root. Hope we can get root soon. Thank you to anyone who is still working on this.
krazykid6911 said:
Just looking to root the most current OTA, my search so far makes me believe its not possible. Is this true or am I missing something?
Thnak you!
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Tkun said:
I'm wondering the same thing. I recently had to get a replacement phone and unfortunately it's running stock 4.4.2. First time I've ever had a phone with a bootloader that couldn't be unlocked. I would like to at least have my phone rooted. Anyone out there willing to share a root solution with us?
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No reason to make another thread about his when there is about 50 on the same topic.. search and you will find your answer of the not being a way yet
There are already several other threads related to this very topic. In the future please use search before starting a new thread.
Thread closed.
Thank you,
Rwilco12

Is this of any use for a boot loader unlock?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/bump-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-d852-d852g-f400-t2900614?nocache=1
The LG G3 recently got a bootloader unlock. It consists of modifying boot images in some way to make sure they boot. I think this is worth a look guys.
There is going to be a guide up on how they modify the bootloader signature soon.
Demonoid111 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...lg-g3-twrp-d852-d852g-f400-t2900614?nocache=1
The LG G3 recently got a bootloader unlock. It consists of modifying boot images in some way to make sure they boot. I think this is worth a look guys.
There is going to be a guide up on how they modify the bootloader signature soon.
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It is not useful for an unlock, but may be useful for a bypass. They haven't stated whether or not it is LG-specific or Qualcomm SoC specific. If it is Qualcomm SoC specific, then it should work on the HDX as it has a Spandragon 800 and the G3 has an 801. I have been interested in how this exploit works since day one. When they release the method, I may be able to cook something up and ask a few people to test. An unlock would be better, though, so people could get into fastboot mode if something goes horribly wrong.
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It is not useful for an unlock, but may be useful for a bypass. They haven't stated whether or not it is LG-specific or Qualcomm SoC specific. If it is Qualcomm SoC specific, then it should work on the HDX as it has a Spandragon 800 and the G3 has an 801. I have been interested in how this exploit works since day one. When they release the method, I may be able to cook something up and ask a few people to test. An unlock would be better, though, so people could get into fastboot mode if something goes horribly wrong.
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Well, I asked on their IRC channel and — sure enough — it's LG specific.
<+invisiblek> EncryptedCurse: lg specific
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EncryptedCurse said:
Well, I asked on their IRC channel and — sure enough — it's LG specific.
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Ah, well, back to the drawing board.
The only other similar type of bypass is for the fire TV, which now allows for custom kernels too. Maybe someone can go ask rbox to see if his signature bypass is something that can be used?
Demonoid111 said:
The only other similar type of bypass is for the fire TV, which now allows for custom kernels too. Maybe someone can go ask rbox to see if his signature bypass is something that can be used?
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I've just sent him a message.

Root Sprint S8+???

Hello, there is a way to root this phone???
I want to unlock it.
Thanks
luisypica said:
Hello, there is a way to root this phone???
I want to unlock it.
Thanks
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When you did your search on XDA, did you find your answer?
Ramer said:
When you did your search on XDA, did you find your answer?
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NO, I didn´t find anything, that´s why I am asking for.
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NO, I didn´t find anything, that´s why I am asking for.
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Hmm, it's posted ALL OVER XDA. The Sprint S8+ has a locked bootloader. As of now, we don't have root.
Ramer said:
Hmm, it's posted ALL OVER XDA. The Sprint S8+ has a locked bootloader. As of now, we don't have root.
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Many phone with locked bootloaders has root. I know is hardest than unlocked bootloaders but is not impossible.
I hope will be as soon as possible.
Thanks
luisypica said:
Hello, there is a way to root this phone???
I want to unlock it.
Thanks
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Here you go.
here it is,
https://www.oneclickroot.com/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s8/
lol
94tbird said:
here it is,
lol
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I wonder if it's going to brick a Snapdragon S8 or will it just not work. That site doesn't even mention the two types of chipsets, at least not that I found on a quick reading.
94tbird said:
here it is,
https://www.oneclickroot.com/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s8/
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This is a paid option and not for developer types like us. I am not convinced they support our USA model 955U anyway.
I would think Chainfire might come out with something like happened with S7 Edge. We shall see. Been 3 weeks.
photolarry said:
This is a paid option and not for developer types like us. I am not convinced they support our USA model 955U anyway.
I would think Chainfire might come out with something like happened with S7 Edge. We shall see. Been 3 weeks.
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Think you missed the "lol" portion if my post
So I have been doing some research and the same kind of issue was occurring with the S7/Edge and there was a modified ODIN and "Engineering" boot.img (kernel) that claims to root the device. So I am curious if using that "modified hack" version of ODIN and a boot.img that has a kernel compatible with snapdragon (the only one I see in main s8+ forum is for Exynos). Not sure if this is really safe to do but I am guessing that once enough devs want root on this device, something will be out there. Has anyone tried KingRoot?
I have trieed Kingroot but always fail!!!
I hope Chainfire can do something for us.
Anyway: eng kernel exist for this device? Snapdragon version ofcourse.
I contacted the support team for oneclickroot and they said that they do not have a root for the US versions of the S8+.
Was wondering if there would be a way to modify and or port the s7 boot.img to an s8+ variant? Maybe even a way to "trick" it as to read it like an exynos vairant processor?
i just bougt sprint s8+ off swappa. any update to the rooting it cause im gonna unlock it.
photolarry said:
So I have been doing some research and the same kind of issue was occurring with the S7/Edge and there was a modified ODIN and "Engineering" boot.img (kernel) that claims to root the device. So I am curious if using that "modified hack" version of ODIN and a boot.img that has a kernel compatible with snapdragon (the only one I see in main s8+ forum is for Exynos). Not sure if this is really safe to do but I am guessing that once enough devs want root on this device, something will be out there. Has anyone tried KingRoot?
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I've tried KingRoot, but it's hot garbage. Seeing so much in the way of information regarding the S8 Plus having a locked bootloader (Sprint ENG_US version or any other carrier variant for that matter), and I was wondering if there is any new information? Eager to root this bad boy, but no bueno thus far. I'm seeing the information for international ones using the Exynos, but I found this 'CF-Auto-Root-dream2qltesq-dream2qltesq-smg955u.tar' earlier this afternoon. Not even sure if this is compatible and I'm not going to be the guinea pig today. Has anybody else messed with this kit?
Anybody have any relevant information pertaining to effective rooting of the S8 Plus on Sprint by chance? Until I hear of some success with this, I'm not going to attempt. Got a bit of a qualm with a $1K paperweight. Please advise.
Thanks!

Anyone with Recovery & Root SM-J727T

Anyone know of a recovery & root method for SM-J727T?
DeviceManagent said:
Anyone know of a recovery & root method for SM-J727T?
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Is the bootloader unlocked
messi2050 said:
Is the bootloader unlocked
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Yes I assume it is.
DeviceManagent said:
Yes I assume it is.
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you may want to contact @ashyx
@ashyx is the SM-J727T a project you are or will be working on?
DeviceManagent said:
@ashyx is the SM-J727T a project you are or will be working on?
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Unfortunately this device will likely be locked just like the J327T.
I have been watching that thread and everything that has been tried is pretty much what I attempted to explain would be a waste of time.
The combination firmware is useless to gain root on nougat.
No auto root is ever gonna work either and neither is Flashfire or SuperSU.
There is a list of reasons why these things won't work, but I'll not waste my time in that thread explaining why.
I don't mind explaining further why here. Just so others will not waste efforts like on the J327T thread.
I'll let that thread run its course until all avenues have reached their inevitable dead ends.
They are harsh words, but unfortunately they are truth.
Suffice to say that the only real way for this device to see root is either an unlocked bootloader (highly unlikely), a proper engineering binary or an exploit is released for Android 7.
If an exploit is found then Kingroot will almost certainly incorporate it in their Software and then there maybe a chance that the combination binary (not the whole firmware) will help get root.
If anyone can confirm for sure this device doesn't have a locked bootloader then I'd be happy to work on it.
ashyx said:
Unfortunately this device will likely be locked just like the J327T.
I have been watching that thread and everything that has been tried is pretty much what I attempted to explain would be a waste of time.
The combination firmware is useless to gain root on nougat.
No auto root is ever gonna work either and neither is Flashfire or SuperSU.
There is a list of reasons why these things won't work, but I'll not waste my time in that thread explaining why.
I don't mind explaining further why here. Just so others will not waste efforts like on the J327T thread.
I'll let that thread run its course until all avenues have reached their inevitable dead ends.
They are harsh words, but unfortunately they are truth.
Suffice to say that the only real way for this device to see root is either an unlocked bootloader (highly unlikely), a proper engineering binary or an exploit is released for Android 7.
If an exploit is found then Kingroot will almost certainly incorporate it in their Software and then there maybe a chance that the combination binary (not the whole firmware) will help get root.
If anyone can confirm for sure this device doesn't have a locked bootloader then I'd be happy to work on it.
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Thanks for your quick reply! If there is anything i can do to check for a locked bootloader? Also, check this out for a locked bootloader : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j7/how-to/guide-unlock-bootloader-samsung-galaxy-t3409080
I appreciate you work and time, again, anything i can do, id like to help...
DeviceManagent said:
Thanks for your quick reply! If there is anything i can do to check for a locked bootloader? Also, check this out for a locked bootloader : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j7/how-to/guide-unlock-bootloader-samsung-galaxy-t3409080
I appreciate you work and time, again, anything i can do, id like to help...
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Yes there is a fairly easy way.
Also you need to read my posts in that thread you linked.
I have requested several times for it to be closed.
Nothing in that thread will work.
Again it comes down to people who don't understand what they are posting.
It's not me being negative, these things just don't work. If you want me to go in to detail for why then I can explain.
ashyx said:
Yes there is a fairly easy way.
Also you need to read my posts in that thread you linked.
I have requested several times for it to be closed.
Nothing in that thread will work.
Again it comes down to people who don't understand what they are posting.
It's not me being negative, these things just don't work. If you want me to go in to detail for why then I can explain.
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No, do bother going into detail, i prolly wouldnt understand.
If/When you work on either the J327T or J727T, i'm here to test....
BTW Chimera is saying them can root both devices. Before i think of putting up the money, what are your thoughts? At that point i might be rooted but no recovery
J727T/1 Recovery/Root (SS SafeStrap)???
Would this work?
Or be a good place to start, building off it???
IF I remember right, it was used for the S4 or S5 att, with same issue. It would set up recovery after bootloader, or something like that. I'm no noon, but not a senior either.
Just a suggestion??
Would be great if someone could implement it to work??
What u think?
DeviceManagent said:
No, do bother going into detail, i prolly wouldnt understand.
If/When you work on either the J327T or J727T, i'm here to test....
BTW Chimera is saying them can root both devices. Before i think of putting up the money, what are your thoughts? At that point i might be rooted but no recovery
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Don't give them any money, i am working on a few things as this is my next device. Ill keep u posted fellas. Its just the beginning of this phones development
Cuban.B816 said:
Would this work?
Or be a good place to start, building off it???
IF I remember right, it was used for the S4 or S5 att, with same issue. It would set up recovery after bootloader, or something like that. I'm no noon, but not a senior either.
Just a suggestion??
Would be great if someone could implement it to work??
What u think?
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I remember SS i had yo use on my S5 (the att variant)! Didnt know SS was still around....
DeviceManagent said:
I remember SS i had yo use on my S5 (the att variant)! Didnt know SS was still around....
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I'm don't believe it is still being used today on the new OS's.
Was just a thought, if anyone thinks it may be an option to get the file and port it or whatever have to do to it to make it work for this soo to say non-rootable phone.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this here idea?
Cuban.B816 said:
I'm don't believe it is still being used today on the new OS's.
Was just a thought, if anyone thinks it may be an option to get the file and port it or whatever have to do to it to make it work for this soo to say non-rootable phone.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this here idea?
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I the last update was 2013
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9UtxGyEZrrFZDJmckRoUUUtUDg i found a root file for the j7 prime. feel free to test it.
thepcwiz101 said:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9UtxGyEZrrFZDJmckRoUUUtUDg i found a root file for the j7 prime. feel free to test it.
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Doesn't work without a working conduscive recovery
fullofhell said:
Doesn't work without a working conduscive recovery
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You flash it using odin. Its a tar file
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You flash it using odin. Its a tar file
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Ohhhmy bad duh.im so sorry
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Ohhhmy bad duh.im so sorry
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Its fine.

Question Xperia 5 IV Model Decision - XQ-CQ54 vs XQ-CQ72

As someone living in the USA and using T-Mobile as a provider, is there a significant difference between the XQ-CQ54 and XQ-CQ72 models? If so, which one should I go with?
I will not be using the XQ-CQ62 (US version) because the bootloader cannot be unlocked and I would like to use a custom ROM.
You can unlock the bootloader on 62 but it cost about 20 bucks..its a recent hack ... Xda isnt allowing guides with money involved so that's why theres none posted here.
Other then that i think 54 version aka european is way better then chinese 72. Just for esim alone
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You can unlock the bootloader on 62 but it cost about 20 bucks..its a recent hack ... Xda isnt allowing guides with money involved so that's why theres none posted here.
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Would you be able to provide a link to the service or at least a name for the website? I'd like to try that one but I'd also like to not download a virus.
I havent tried it but there are reports of it being a legit thing. I ll send you a pm so you can look into that thread.
Morcleon said:
Would you be able to provide a link to the service or at least a name for the website? I'd like to try that one but I'd also like to not download a virus.
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would love to hear about your experience with the tool
I have the US version and found out the hard way that its bootloader can't be unlocked. I've always had a rooted phone, BUT I would say this phone has everything that I want and need. And Android 13 now has features that I used root phones to get. On the flip side, I have seen people that have the 1 iv US version and they've used the mentioned tool, and were able to change the no to a yes. As long as Sony keeps pumping out updates, I'm good for now on stock, but I may revisit the tool if updates stop.
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I have the US version and found out the hard way that its bootloader can't be unlocked. I've always had a rooted phone, BUT I would say this phone has everything that I want and need. And Android 13 now has features that I used root phones to get. On the flip side, I have seen people that have the 1 iv US version and they've used the mentioned tool, and were able to change the no to a yes. As long as Sony keeps pumping out updates, I'm good for now on stock, but I may revisit the tool if updates stop.
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Don't post nonsense. Bootloader unlock is possible.
Kevbodian said:
Don't post nonsense. Bootloader unlock is possible.
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All that I was saying is that I may be open to trying the "workaround" to enable bootloader unlock on the US version later on. Please explain to me how that is nonsense. Or if you know of a way to change the no to a yes on these locked down versions, I'm all ears.
I have the US version and found out the hard way that its bootloader can't be unlocked
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That's a pretty direct statement which is made up of nonsense.
No to yes and unlocking the bootloader is possible. See the thread about the so-54c or check my posts.
Kevbodian said:
That's a pretty direct statement which is made up of nonsense.
No to yes and unlocking the bootloader is possible. See the thread about the so-54c or check my posts.
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That's all you needed to say. I was only verifying that I ran into the same situation. I'll check out your posts, and read up. I haven't had an Xperia in almost 10 years, so I'm getting caught up.

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