Hi,
I understand the step counter on the Gear S is tied to arm movement, and does not work well on a treadmill if you are holding on to the rails.
I have just set up a treadmill desk in my home office and am trying to figure out if there is another way to "wear" the Gear S to make it work. The first day I tried, I attached it to my lower leg, it counted the steps, but the next day it did not.
Has anybody experimented using either Gear S or Samsung phone (I have the Note 3) on a treadmill while not swinging arms and walking at a slow pace? I have tried to add the steps taken manually, but that does not appear to work. I also figured if the phone shows more steps, it would overrule the Gear S count, but I don't think S Health works hat way.
Any suggestions?
What would happen if you try using the Nike+ running app on the Gear S while you're walking on the treadmill? I just finished a treadmill run today and it was my first time using the Nike+ app on my Gear S. The app knows that I'm indoors and it estimates my running pace and mileage based on how I swing my arms.
I have the exact same setup. A desk on my Treadmill. Like you, I only walk at 1.6 MPH because I can actually talk on the phone and use my laptop while walking. I do a couple hours a day.
I have had NO problem having the Gear S in my pocket and having it record steps. It works quite well in fact. I even attach the recharger (unplugged) to the back while it is in my pocket. That way I end up measuring steps AND having a fully charged watch.
Sorry I can't help you but to tell you mine is working this way fine.
I tried tying it to my ankle...first day, it worked great. Second day, it must not have been tied tight enough and it registered 24000 steps in 2 1/2 hours. While it looked great on my statistics, needless to say, it was absolutely incorrect. Because it had been tied too loosely, it bounced too much, recording each step multiple times.
I typically wear yoga pants, so no pocket. Will try wearing something with a pocket today to see if that helps...
Thanks for the tip
The swinging arms issue is the problem... While I am at my treadmill desk, I type on my computer. Not much swinging going on unless I am on the phone and upset about something
Will try the pocket option below.....
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Guys,
Quick question.
Is there a setting somewhere that allows the gear fit to NOT end the workout if stationary (or bad GPS) after a preset time?
Scenario:
Whenever I am cycling, I inevitably come across traffic lights and have to stop, after some time (normally once I get going again) the gear fit will display a message "No movement detected, workout stopped" or something along those lines.
If I acknowledge the message, then its ok, workout continues until the next stop, but if I don't notice it, and sometimes I don't feel the vibration when cycling, then eventually the workout will stop all together, and I only find out next time I check the device.
This is very frustrating, surely I don't have to keep checking the device to see if it thinks the workout is stopped, very dangerous when cycling.
So currently yes I have to periodically check to make sure it is still recording, if I just leave it, guaranteed it will stop recording without me telling it to.
Anyone else experience this when cycling?
Otherwise great device!
further to this..
yesterday on my ride home I got the "workout stopped" message when I had been moving for at least 3-4 minutes.
so not sure how it is calculating movement or what the threshold is.
luckily i noticed and acknowledged the message and the workout continued.
still very annoying.
surely someone else has experienced this, or am I the only one using the gear fit for cycling?
If i initiate the cycling workout from the app on the S5, it does not record heart rate, even though the device is paired.
Yes, I have found this as well, and annoyed me too. You could go for a 4 hr ride, and it's stopped after 20 minutes haha.
THAT would be annoying!
This is problem for the newest firmware i think, bcoz early i don't have this problem...
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Yes, I have found this as well, and annoyed me too. You could go for a 4 hr ride, and it's stopped after 20 minutes haha.
THAT would be annoying!
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Yeap absolutely rubbish!
I am yet to accurately record a workout and I have had the thing for nearly a week.
Tempted to take it back just doesn't do anything it is supposed to do, except send notifications that seems to be the only thing working properly.
I have same problem too. Samsung need to fix this soon with firmware update. Otherwise it will be a great product.
I suffer from the same problem. Anoying..... And if you track from the S Health app have you notice that the distance is way off from what the bike computer measures??? 4 riders, 4 bike computers from Sigma, all measured the same, S Health reported 2,5km LESS.......
I was really fed up with Gear Fit and I've just return it to the seller.
I think i'm going to wait for better devices (or an important upgrade)
I bought it because notifications and tracking options, but it was disconnecting all the time from the cellphone.
Bye bye gearfit!
The movement detector really sucks in this watch. The other day the pedometer prompt came on congratulating me on reaching my daily steps goal. The problem is that it was early morning and I did not go anywhere to reach the 10,000 step goal. Then it occured to me, it must of picked up the movement of me rubbing one out...
Hi,
While I think my Gear Fit is a very useful device it constantly lets me down on the training side. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I bike quite a bit and I like the way the Health app stores my map speed etc. the way it does. Once in a blue moon. The problem is that 9 times out of 10 the cycling app will shut down all on its own while I'm still in the middle of my training session. Hysterically irritating to have all these half-recorded sessions in my phone. And there's no way I can check on progress while cycling. To get to the Health app and then on to cycling on the Gear Fit would be sure death when speeding along at 35 kph. At least for someone as unbalanced as myself.
So am I doing something wrong? Is there a setting for the Gear Fit that I've missed? Is anyone else having this problem, or am I just stuck with a buggy example of the otherwise very nifty piece of engineering? Oh, and whoever designed the strap for the Fit must absolutely have had repeat business in mind! It's fallen off, like, 100 times of its own accord. A miracle that it's still in my possession.
Grateful for any advice on the "keep alive" topic.
Thanks/M
McHan said:
Hi,
While I think my Gear Fit is a very useful device it constantly lets me down on the training side. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I bike quite a bit and I like the way the Health app stores my map speed etc. the way it does. Once in a blue moon. The problem is that 9 times out of 10 the cycling app will shut down all on its own while I'm still in the middle of my training session. Hysterically irritating to have all these half-recorded sessions in my phone. And there's no way I can check on progress while cycling. To get to the Health app and then on to cycling on the Gear Fit would be sure death when speeding along at 35 kph. At least for someone as unbalanced as myself.
So am I doing something wrong? Is there a setting for the Gear Fit that I've missed? Is anyone else having this problem, or am I just stuck with a buggy example of the otherwise very nifty piece of engineering? Oh, and whoever designed the strap for the Fit must absolutely have had repeat business in mind! It's fallen off, like, 100 times of its own accord. A miracle that it's still in my possession.
Grateful for any advice on the "keep alive" topic.
Thanks/M
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Same here, but I have missed all my bicyclings. But I have solved issue. Taking pulse (beat of heart) off then the training have gone OK. I am a male and have hairs on my wrist. I haven't tryed if I would keep Gear Fit like womens do, wrong way around. I mean the display is under wrist and where are not any hairs or you have to keep your strap tighter than now.
Newest version bring pause function to Gear Fit training, but I agree that better would be if I can myself start and stop the bicycling training. It could stop automatically if you stand too long in traffic signal; GPS signal stays too long same. If this is true, then the clock is dangerous incitementing to run a red lights.
The pulse off settings is here: biking/ scroll right one screen (on landscape mode)/ pulse: take off tag of pulse.
EmDzei said:
Same here, but I have missed all my bicyclings. But I have solved issue. Taking pulse (beat of heart) off then the training have gone OK. I am a male and have hairs on my wrist. I haven't tryed if I would keep Gear Fit like womens do, wrong way around. I mean the display is under wrist and where are not any hairs or you have to keep your strap tighter than now.
Newest version bring pause function to Gear Fit training, but I agree that better would be if I can myself start and stop the bicycling training. It could stop automatically if you stand too long in traffic signal; GPS signal stays too long same. If this is true, then the clock is dangerous incitementing to run a red lights.
The pulse off settings is here: biking/ scroll right one screen (on landscape mode)/ pulse: take off tag of pulse.
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Hi EmDzei and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately this did not solve the problem for me. Turned off the heart-sensor and have now tried two biking sessions but the Gear device stops recording after 10 and 25 minutes respectively. Pretty much the same results as before. A real pain in the nether regions! Does no one else have this problem? I've noticed that the phone "pings" every now and again and I'm wondering if it momentarily loses BT contact with the watch and that this somehow stops the Health recording. It does this at night also when I have the blocking mode enabled (which irritates the H-ll out of my wife, the soft pinging, that is). Any thoughts on this...?
Thanks/M
McHan said:
Hi EmDzei and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately this did not solve the problem for me. Turned off the heart-sensor and have now tried two biking sessions but the Gear device stops recording after 10 and 25 minutes respectively. Pretty much the same results as before. A real pain in the nether regions! Does no one else have this problem? I've noticed that the phone "pings" every now and again and I'm wondering if it momentarily loses BT contact with the watch and that this somehow stops the Health recording. It does this at night also when I have the blocking mode enabled (which irritates the H-ll out of my wife, the soft pinging, that is). Any thoughts on this...?
Thanks/M
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Have to notice here at start that I am not so specialist for this case. But I can give one or two hint.
This hint could hit forest with full speed. I don't know if the bluetooth and WLAN are on same chip. But on WLAN (= Wi-Fi) extra settings and its sleep mode there are three settings: always, only when connected and never (increase mobile data). Simple translations from finnish. =) I use this middle settings: allways, when device is connected. I wrote this hint because you wrote that your device seems disconnect 10 - 25 minutes. WLAN disconnecting time is similar: 15 minutes, if on sleep mode. As I said, this could be very very wrong information.
OK. Next our possible version differents. My Gear Fit firmware is R350XXU0BNE5. My Gear Fit Manager version is 1.67.0523 and I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) stock un-rooted firmware version UFNB9. Last five serial character of Gear Fit are LRXW. I do not use blocking mode on Gear Fit. I use it on my phone and disable sync at nights.
Today I tested and bicycled 26,52 km. I visited two times on markets and paused my "training". All session took 1:44 hour (so beautifull day and sunshine). Does your bicycling have Pause button when you started the trip? My previous version of this doesn't and with it I had problems with cutted bicycle trainings. My phone lay on own bicycle mounting holder, so the bluetooth signal is very stong and distance ~50 - 60 cm only.
Uh, last comments. You have of course made a Samsung account and it sync works OK? I think also that keeping LTE off when biking outside of the city fairway, if it is not strong signal. Good to try in this desperation, eh.
EmDzei said:
Have to notice here at start that I am not so specialist for this case. But I can give one or two hint.
This hint could hit forest with full speed. I don't know if the bluetooth and WLAN are on same chip. But on WLAN (= Wi-Fi) extra settings and its sleep mode there are three settings: always, only when connected and never (increase mobile data). Simple translations from finnish. =) I use this middle settings: allways, when device is connected. I wrote this hint because you wrote that your device seems disconnect 10 - 25 minutes. WLAN disconnecting time is similar: 15 minutes, if on sleep mode. As I said, this could be very very wrong information.
OK. Next our possible version differents. My Gear Fit firmware is R350XXU0BNE5. My Gear Fit Manager version is 1.67.0523 and I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) stock un-rooted firmware version UFNB9. Last five serial character of Gear Fit are LRXW. I do not use blocking mode on Gear Fit. I use it on my phone and disable sync at nights.
Today I tested and bicycled 26,52 km. I visited two times on markets and paused my "training". All session took 1:44 hour (so beautifull day and sunshine). Does your bicycling have Pause button when you started the trip? My previous version of this doesn't and with it I had problems with cutted bicycle trainings. My phone lay on own bicycle mounting holder, so the bluetooth signal is very stong and distance ~50 - 60 cm only.
Uh, last comments. You have of course made a Samsung account and it sync works OK? I think also that keeping LTE off when biking outside of the city fairway, if it is not strong signal. Good to try in this desperation, eh.
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A-HA! I think You hit on the solution to the problem in Your very last comment. I've been trying various combinations of settings on both the Gear Fit and on the phone, but to no avail. Then finally it struck me that, yes! I have been experiencing issues when shifting between LTE and other modes, and that possibly possibly this could have something to do with my problems. And so, sure enough, when I blocked off 4G and went for my daily today I finally got the whole ride recorded in the phone!
So many thanks for putting me on this track and fining the solution for me, EmDzei!
I think it is the best fitness companion and here's why.
It has phone.
Heart rate monitor.
Music player with Bluetooth headset.
Light weight.
Tracks steps
GPS.
@NeatSheep
NeatSheep said:
I think it is the best fitness companion and here's why.
It has phone.
Heart rate monitor.
Music player with Bluetooth headset.
Light weight.
Tracks steps
GPS.
@NeatSheep
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I think the pedometer on the note 4 is much better then on the gear s. It says I have walked way more then my phone does. Off by about 700 steps from the phone. Watch showing more. I was in the car most of the day today so not sure how I did 2k steps.
rfs830 said:
I think the pedometer on the note 4 is much better then on the gear s. It says I have walked way more then my phone does. Off by about 700 steps from the phone. Watch showing more. I was in the car most of the day today so not sure how I did 2k steps.
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How much of this is because you literally do not have the phone in your hand as much as the watch on your wrist?
I am coming from the fitbit line and this watch tends to give me less credit the fitbits do.
So, I just get a base line number and improve about it.
Look at the photos. To me the watch is much better
@NeatSheep
By the way it's measuring my steps, speed, location heart rate at the same time with a chart and a map. You can see that in the photos
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By the way it's measuring my steps, speed, location heart rate at the same time with a chart and a map. You can see that in the photos
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I will have to test it out at work as im always walking there. Maybe it is better. I never had a pedometer that was not my phone so maybe this is more accurate.
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By the way it's measuring my steps, speed, location heart rate at the same time with a chart and a map. You can see that in the photos
@NeatSheep
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Does the s health app give you verbal specs for while you are out? Like split times, or lap times and such?
Yes you you choose an exercise it will start recording the time, distance, speed, calories burned, location on the map and heart rate.
@NeatSheep
The problem with a pedometer on your wrist is that it will register steps just from the movement of you hand. If you are like me and move your hands a lot when you speak, or point a lot at a board (I'm a teacher) it registers way more steps than a pedometer attached to your hip or a phone in your pocket.
I also note that when I'm sitting at my desk, flipping pages of an article or assignment will register steps too ?
To be honest. If it making you move more the it's doing its job. And the normal steps they don't do much and it can tell you the healthy pace that really matters.
And you can only depend on the star an exercise function and it can tell the time you moved so you look at the chart and remove the steps that you know that are not correct.
There is may ways to solve the problem but i say if it's making you feel good and makes to want more and move more then why not.
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richlum said:
The problem with a pedometer on your wrist is that it will register steps just from the movement of you hand. If you are like me and move your hands a lot when you speak, or point a lot at a board (I'm a teacher) it registers way more steps than a pedometer attached to your hip or a phone in your pocket.
I also note that when I'm sitting at my desk, flipping pages of an article or assignment will register steps too ?
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I had two Nike Fuelbands, and believe you need to look at any wrist device like they do. They all give you "points", whether they call them Fuel or steps, etc. Just establish a baseline and improve from there. I put my hands on my knee during biking at the gym, and get points this way, and don't worry that the elliptical is not real steps either, and I use the poles on this machine instead of keeping my hands stationary on the smaller arm rest handles. Improvement is the key. I lost 88 lbs. this year and credit my Gear 2 very much in helping me push my goals daily. I have it set still at 11000, but today got 16,000 points for example. Have fun with it. I am loving the new Gear S too.
True. If you use it to establish a baseline and set goals, it should be a good way to motivate yourself and improve.
I just laugh when it says I've 8,000 steps and I know if just sat on my ass in the office and car all day
richlum said:
The problem with a pedometer on your wrist is that it will register steps just from the movement of you hand. If you are like me and move your hands a lot when you speak, or point a lot at a board (I'm a teacher) it registers way more steps than a pedometer attached to your hip or a phone in your pocket.
I also note that when I'm sitting at my desk, flipping pages of an article or assignment will register steps too ?
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I have never gotten that to work flipping pages.
Go through a normal day and see the number steps you get. Then set your goal higher than that. Nothing will be perfect, but that gets "you" moving more, and isn't that the goal?
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highlordkram said:
I had two Nike Fuelbands, and believe you need to look at any wrist device like they do. They all give you "points", whether they call them Fuel or steps, etc. Just establish a baseline and improve from there. I put my hands on my knee during biking at the gym, and get points this way, and don't worry that the elliptical is not real steps either, and I use the poles on this machine instead of keeping my hands stationary on the smaller arm rest handles. Improvement is the key. I lost 88 lbs. this year and credit my Gear 2 very much in helping me push my goals daily. I have it set still at 11000, but today got 16,000 points for example. Have fun with it. I am loving the new Gear S too.
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Congrats! [emoji2]
1) Does it have Nike+ app already?
2) Has anybody used any semi pro watch in the past? Forerunner, ambit? Just wondering how Gear S compared to those devices.
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Yes it has a Nike+
And most pedometer not professional.
I have a Garmin GPS watch. I can compare them together if you want
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Yes it has a Nike+
And most pedometer not professional.
I have a Garmin GPS watch. I can compare them together if you want
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I have many questions.. if you can answer - that's nice. I have experience with Garmin Forerunner 620 and Endomondo mobile app. Both suites me fine. And I just want to know if Gear S can replace them.
1) How often would you need to charge it if you would do 1 hour running every second day?
2) Is heartbeat recorded during the running or after the run? Is HB recorded by Nike+ app?
3) Can Nike+ app:
- Show average pace of the last kilometer? (after each km)
- Vibrate or in any other way inform every 1km?
4) In one of the videos I've seen Endomondo icon in Gear S. Have you tried it?
- Can Gear S+Endomondo work without!! the phone? That would be ideal solution for me.
- That stuff Endomondo records during workout? GPS coordinates? Heart rate?
Ok lets see. First i have garmin forerunner 910xt and i stopped using it and replaced it with gear s.
1. I charge my gear s sometimes every 2 days and the fact that the charger has a battery is good for me because sometimes i change it on the way to work.
2. I didnt run with the watch but walked really fast and it kept recording my heart rate during that time.
3. Nike+ works without phone after setup(UPDATE )************
4. Endomondo don't work without the phone
@NeatSheep
If Even Nike+ can't work without a phone - that's a no go for me
Does that mean that only Samsung fitness apps can utilize the mobility and GPS of Gear S?
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Ok lets see. First i have garmin forerunner 910xt and i stopped using it and replaced it with gear s.
1. I charge my gear s sometimes every 2 days and the fact that the charger has a battery is good for me because sometimes i change it on the way to work.
2. I didnt run with the watch but walked really fast and it kept recording my heart rate during that time.
3. and 4. Endomondo and nike+ don't work without the phone
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How are you getting away with charging every 2 days? When i use the gear s for my runs it needs a charge every 11 hours.
Ninja, how long are your runs?
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Every damn time i get into the car my watch says I walked a crap ton of steps each time... ill go from 500 steps to a 1000 steps...... I reset the watch and the issue still persists. This is an awesome watch and I like this watch better than the gear s2, but with the gear s2 if i start driving at 500 steps it wont even say I walked a step, the pedometer is very accurate! Any way I can fix this problem? Im looking to ditch the gear s2 but I really need to be able to accurately count my steps, im a fitness freak.
I noticed the same thing and wondered if there was a way to disable it when I get into my car.
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I noticed the same thing and wondered if there was a way to disable it when I get into my car.
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****, and there was me thinking I had nearly reached my step count for the day :crying:
will check it on my why home tonight...
Mine does this off and on. It doesn't count all the steps but definitely a bunch randomly. It also counted like 50k steps while i was asleep and it was charging. That was definitely odd, now I need to find out if I sleepwalk 10 miles.
Well I'm a semi truck driver and when I drive with the gear s2 the watch doesn't count any steps! Super accurate!! With the moto 360, the damn things counts so many steps its unreal. It even counts a bunch when I'm driving the car, bothers me a lot. I really want to keep this watch too
must be optional, i hope in the next update of android wear change that
I read at german magazin c't that the 360 has only a 3 axis motion sensor and that the watch is not so accurate like the 9 axis sensor from the huawei watch.
Hi, I have been using my stratos for a week now, and noticed it doesnt count stairs well and doesnt count me using a stroller when i take my kid to day care - its consistently failing on both these two scenarios but otherwise works well with step counting, running, and i was able to track my 1 pool session well so far.
Anyone else noticed these issues?
thanks.
I am interested in this topic as well. I was considering Stratos but saw a good offer on Garmin Vivoactive 3. Now I saw that the Vivoactive is counting only a few steps whlie using a stroller. To make things worse it is recalculating VO2max and resetting the step goal considering this wrong steps from stroller pushing. The yearks at Garmin do not allow to manually add or edit step count because steps are used in leaderboards. Now I am considering returning it and buying a Stratos. Just as sports watch not as an activity tracker.
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Hi, I have been using my stratos for a week now, and noticed it doesnt count stairs well and doesnt count me using a stroller when i take my kid to day care - its consistently failing on both these two scenarios but otherwise works well with step counting, running, and i was able to track my 1 pool session well so far.
Anyone else noticed these issues?
thanks.
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Hi Sagivha
When walking with a stroller you have both hands maneuvering it.
It's the same when using the treadmill, I always let my hand swing when standing on it otherwise the steps are not counted well.
About taking stairs, I have the same problem and already pointed this out for several times.
Now and then there are one or two counts of taking stairs. I wonder if there a threshold as it is bij walking.
Counting steps takes place after 10 steps to avoid false readings.
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