Hello everyone. When I started enjoying smartphones, my first love was with HTC. After some time of quality issues across many of their phones, I made the switch to Samsung. I must say, while I was always impressed with Samsung during the warranty period, it became clear to me that the phones don't hold up much longer than that... and in the case of my S5, made several visits to the repair shop during its warranty period.
My question is this. Should I even give the LG consideration? The G3 has been around a while now so there should be some good input at this point. Am I just trading one evil for another? Or is there much more to look forward to if I make the switch? Also, how difficult is it to root? And if I root, is it possible to undo that so there is no trace in case I need to send it in for warranty?
I would especially like the opinion of folks who have played with both the G3 and the Samsung line.
Thanks in advance.
I love the G3. Performance wise it's a beast. It was a pain to root. I even bricked it once in the process but was lucky enough to fix it. If you plan on unrooting it and rerooting it every time something goes wrong with the phone, then I highly recommend you stick with Samsung. Your life will be easier.
I've had both, g3, to me, is easier to root. Root with stump root app, but you must downgrade, using flashtool, to zv4 1st if your phone came with zv6. After that you just flash bumped version of TWRP using flashify app or ADB. I quit Samsung because of KNOX. One false move with downgrading boot loader accidentally, phone is toast. I have softbricked my g3 numerous times, used flashtool Every time to get out of trouble. As far as unrooting goes, use flashtool once again. Not sure if boot loader counts mods like Samsung tho.
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Hi guys, after waiting all day, the courier finally dropped off my awesome S3, then I had to run to the local Optus shop to have my simcard snipped, I'm loving the phone..... But I'm not the biggest fan of touchwiz, have no need for the bloaty apps, and it seems slower than it should be considering the specs, so I'm itching to root this baby and install an AOSP or AOKP rom. But I'm still undecided whether or not I want to keep this, or sell it and get the Nexus 4, so I really really can't afford to brick this phone, it's a very expensive piece of hardware and I just got it. So realistically and honestly, how dangerous is rooting/flashing on this phone? I do have rooting and flashing experience on multiple phones, and also have bricking experience on multiple phones. From my understanding because of "Download mode" the chances of hard bricking are pretty low and getting out of a softboot is pretty easy, I've heard some things about people losing IMEI numbers, how can I avoid that?
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Hi guys, after waiting all day, the courier finally dropped off my awesome S3, then I had to run to the local Optus shop to have my simcard snipped, I'm loving the phone..... But I'm not the biggest fan of touchwiz, have no need for the bloaty apps, and it seems slower than it should be considering the specs, so I'm itching to root this baby and install an AOSP or AOKP rom. But I'm still undecided whether or not I want to keep this, or sell it and get the Nexus 4, so I really really can't afford to brick this phone, it's a very expensive piece of hardware and I just got it. So realistically and honestly, how dangerous is rooting/flashing on this phone? I do have rooting and flashing experience on multiple phones, and also have bricking experience on multiple phones. From my understanding because of "Download mode" the chances of hard bricking are pretty low and getting out of a softboot is pretty easy, I've heard some things about people losing IMEI numbers, how can I avoid that?
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very dangerous if you do not know what you're doing. Very simple if you take the time to read and follow instructions. I'm not a technical guy or that good with computers but I spent a lot of time reading and finally decided to take a stab at rooting. My S3 is the 4th phone i rooted.
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very dangerous if you do not know what you're doing. Very simple if you take the time to read and follow instructions. I'm not a technical guy or that good with computers but I spent a lot of time reading and finally decided to take a stab at rooting. My S3 is the 4th phone i rooted.
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I know what I'm doing in general, never rooted an S3 specifically, have rooted a Desire Z, Atrix 2, and Galaxy S. So I've been around the block a few times when it comes to rooting and flashing, I had 3 Desire Z's with bad EMMC chips, they bricked even without me flashing anything, the first one had no warranty so I had to buy another out of pocket that's why I'm so paranoid. I might just keep it stock for another week or two, do some more reading, then when I finally flash a silky smooth bloatless rom I can enjoy it even more.
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I know what I'm doing in general, never rooted an S3 specifically, have rooted a Desire Z, Atrix 2, and Galaxy S. So I've been around the block a few times when it comes to rooting and flashing, I had 3 Desire Z's with bad EMMC chips, they bricked even without me flashing anything, the first one had no warranty so I had to buy another out of pocket that's why I'm so paranoid. I might just keep it stock for another week or two, do some more reading, then when I finally flash a silky smooth bloatless rom I can enjoy it even more.
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in that case it's very simple. I rooted 3 S3s using the same process and all were a success. I didn't bother to wait to root my phone. My wife bought me this phone for my bday and the same day I opened the box was the same day I rooted it. I hate touchwiz and i hate bloat.
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in that case it's very simple. I rooted 3 S3s using the same process and all were a success. I didn't bother to wait to root my phone. My wife bought me this phone for my bday and the same day I opened the box was the same day I rooted it. I hate touchwiz and i hate bloat.
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What methods do you recommend since you've done it 3 times already?
JDogg1329 said:
What methods do you recommend since you've done it 3 times already?
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CF-Root
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Hally79 said:
CF-Root
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From my reading I've gathered that there is CF-Root and then the S3 Toolkit. For CF-Root do you recommend the auto one or the latest supported cf-root.
Use the cf root if you want root+ recovery, auto root for just root
It is very straight forward to do and safe as long as you read instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
[03.07.2012] CF-Root 6.4 - SuperSU+CWM5.5+CWMManager
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Use the cf root if you want root+ recovery, auto root for just root
It is very straight forward to do and safe as long as you read instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
[03.07.2012] CF-Root 6.4 - SuperSU+CWM5.5+CWMManager
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Cheers for the help and recommendation mate, seems like a nice and simple rooting method, it's pretty late and I need to be up early tonight so I best not do it right now and risk screwing something up due to sore eyes. If I do it tomorrow I'll update the thread with how I went .
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What methods do you recommend since you've done it 3 times already?
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i use mac and rooted all the phones on mac. this is the method i used:
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s3-on-mac-osx/
very easy.
Easiest phone to root i've ever known.
Get the toolkit. That is literally it.
Follow the on screen instructions and download a custom rom for your model.
If you fail at this then your a doughnut.
Rooting FTW
Rooting is really good and it is not dangerous in my opinion. So you should go for it.
So, I have the sch-i545 with the me7 update. It was preinstalled on my replacement phone so there was nothing I could do to prevent this predicament(other than not breaking my phone and needing a replacement in the first place...boo) Anyways, I have been considering replacing this phone one way or another and I was looking for any advice from the community here at XDA on a suitable replacement. I love the seemingly endless power of this device and don't really want anything less. I have heard a few things about the Note 3 but I was wondering if that would even be worth getting due to the way Samsung and Verizon are cracking down on locking their bootloaders. Will the Note 3 have this same problem? Are there any similarly powered phones comparable to the s4? Money is definitely an object for this endeavor so keep that in mind. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Sucks to hear you had me7 pre-installed. The only suggestion I can make is do an insurance claim and said you lost the device. When you get a replacement, if the replacement has the mdk firmware, root it fast and set it up. Then say a good samaritan returned your phone. This will at least allow for you to have a clean esn and you can sell the phone if you don't want it.
Rooted S4
I've got no suggestions for a phone that's out right now that is better.
If root and recovery are attainable on the Note 3 I will be buying it when it comes out. No reason for me to get a phone I can't build things for. But the note 3 sounds like it's going to be disgustingly fast and perfect in every way... unless it never gets root and recovery. :good:
I'd like an unlocked bootloader but that alone won't stop me from buying it.
Customs roms are cool and all. But when I had my gs3 root was enough for me. I didnt even run a custom launcher because Tw was responsive enough imo and had basically every feature I wanted in a launcher, about the only thing I wanted was the ability to create folders in the app drawer. I had ran the phone stock rooted for close to a year before installing synergy on it, then my wife got it when I upgraded to the gs4. I know this probably isnt an answer you wanted to read but I wanted to throw in my .02 about only having root.
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Root alone is alright with me for now but I really would like to run a custom recovery on my phone so I can get back on the Hyperdrive ROM. Call it laziness but there are some mods that I really don't enjoy going through all the work of manually applying them when flashing is so much easier/quicker. I have been researching the Ubuntu Edge which looks promising. The Note 3 looks incredible and if I can find a buyer for my s4 I will likely be switching regardless of the bootloader/recovery situation.
Seeking Stock Rom for soft bricked LG Sunset LGL33L on Straighttalk.
Hello, I need the help of xda on this one.
I installed kingroot on my LG Sunset (Lollipop) yesterday and everything was fine. Then I ran Super-Su-me and it soft bricked.
It won't get past the LG-Life's Good screen unless I leave it for 3 hours and then it moves to the Tracfone screen and stays like that.
I have searched all over for the stock rom for this phone and have not had any luck.
I am trying to use KDZ_1_4 to flash it but I need the correct .tot file and the .dll file
Can anyone help me on this one?
Thanks.
Anyone?
Tried to factory reset via stock recovery?
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Seeking Stock Rom for soft bricked LG Sunset LGL33L on Straighttalk.
Hello, I need the help of xda on this one.
I installed kingroot on my LG Sunset (Lollipop) yesterday and everything was fine. Then I ran Super-Su-me and it soft bricked.
It won't get past the LG-Life's Good screen unless I leave it for 3 hours and then it moves to the Tracfone screen and stays like that.
I have searched all over for the stock rom for this phone and have not had any luck.
I am trying to use KDZ_1_4 to flash it but I need the correct .tot file and the .dll file
Can anyone help me on this one?
Thanks.
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I have the same phone and same problem. rooted with kingroot, ran super-sume opened super su it downloaded and said it needed to reboot and in reboot it is stuck on lg screen. tried factory reset but it starts and goes back to lg screen and stays.
I'm in the exact situation as you. Have you been able to solve the issue yet?
I am pretty much having the same problem. My LG Sunset boots to the Tracfone screen and just sits there and does nothing. I cant even boot into recovery or anything.. I hope someone finds a solution to this cause I have not been able to use my phone for a few days.
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I am pretty much having the same problem. My LG Sunset boots to the Tracfone screen and just sits there and does nothing. I cant even boot into recovery or anything.. I hope someone finds a solution to this cause I have not been able to use my phone for a few days.
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Hey man, you need to get another phone asap. For tracfones, it's pretty much the end in cases like these. I actually got another exact (lgl21g) model from ebay, so that as soon as i get the time, will see how i can (if possible) get my softbricked device revived through my new one. But i have yet to research and at all costs, avoid softbricking my new one. As for now, no one else has any idea for a solution.
It kinda blows me away to know that the android community is completely oblivious to these kinds of recent low end, but useful android devices coming out on the straight talk service. For affordable androids, they're kinda neat. But it sucks that Tracfone has completely annihilated the essential utilities that such devices need in order to be revived by the user. I mean an actual bootloader menu to do modding and fixing through. The recovery option on these devices are pretty much useless.
But if you can. you should reply with a description that tells how your device was soft-bricked. As in, "did you use kingroot then Super SUME, which caused your device to freeze on LGs boot logo screen"? If so, then you are one of the many out there who xda needs to listen to, and heavily, i mean HEAVILY REGULATE these eff-ers [http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/supersu-please-t3110954]. Because they need to specifically do more research into why their S~H~I~T~T~Y app is... well, S~H~I~T~T~Y! There are people out there promoting this app as though it is absolutely flawless and works on any android, but such a claim is far away from the truth, and these crap-app makers are only breeding more effing lying trolls. And sadly XDA mostly supports those big thugs with flagship phones problems ONLY. Not the little people like us, we're kinda on our own. SuperSUME is not supposed to force anything on the phone if it's not compatible, working something like kingroot if not being able to find a root method, then just telling the user it failed. Instead SuperSUME does something that effs it all up. Which is pretty much worse than malicious s/ware by itself.
So just hang on to your broken fone for now since it's not completely lost. Though you can take it into walmart and see if you can get a replacement, but I cannot promise you that i could come up with a solution, since I'm learning this crap from scratch as well. The only lead i have for now is to "Flash the device with it's firmware", which we know tracfone isn't gonna just hand out like free air. Sadly i'll have to reach out to XDA developers to help me once i describe this issue and experiment with whatever software out there that can help, if god willing.
FYI I just saw your post and Straight Talk sent me a new phone lol. Of course I didn't mention that I was trying to root it. The problem was actually McAfee Security. I didn't think about switching the setting off that locks the phone down if it's rooted. I made sure I did that on the new one and KingRoot worked just fine. ?
I'd paid $180 in Asurion phone insurance as part of my Verizon plan over the last 18 months I've had my G3, and I think it may be time to finally use it.
Some time within the past several days, it appears I must have pressed too hard on my screen at some point because now, when the screen is dark/black, there is a reasonably noticeable 'smudge' (for complete lack of a better word) inside my screen that is a lighter color than the rest of everything else. I can't really seem to think of the correct words right now to describe it, but it's basically what you'd imagine would happen when you press a screen too hard. The fortunate thing is, it's really only noticeable when the screen is dark, but it's still enough to drive me nuts.
I had a few questions about Asurion. ~3 years ago, I paid my $100 deposit and sent my old Galaxy S3 in because I broke the screen. They sent me back a brand new phone. It was sealed in the original stock box and it came with everything a new phone does (headphones, cable, charger, all the paperwork.) Plus the phone was very clearly not a refurb; it was flawless. I was under the impression I was meant to either have the screen repaired on my phone or get a refurb, but I absolutely got a brand new phone. Maybe I was lucky.
But I understand that my experience likely wasn't typical. So I want to know, from people who have sent their faulty/broken phones in to Asurion:
- Did they fix your problem and send your old phone back? Or,
- Did you get a refurb? Or,
- Did you get a new phone?
Normally, I wouldn't care, but my serious concern is that I might get a new or refurb phone that has an updated OS. This brings me to my next question(s).
- If I get a new/refurb phone back from Asurion that is running 47A or something else relatively new, will I still be able to unlock my bootloader, install TWRP, root, and just generally get everything back to the way I have it now, loaded with customization and modifications? Or do the newer G3 updates keep the phone locked down permanently, in which case I'll be SOL? What's the most recent software update to which I'll be able to make all of my modifications to?
Sorry for the wall of text, but I just want to make sure I get everything cleared up. I would really like to get this screen issue repaired ASAP, but if there's any chance at all that I'll be stuck on stock un-rooted forever when I get the phone back, I'm not going to take that chance. But if it's trivial to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, and root the newer updates like 47A, I'll be sending my phone in ASAP.
Thanks.
I haven't used Asurion since about 2009 so can't say much.
I can say that it doesn't matter what stock ROM a replacement would come with, including up to the latest which is 47A, you won't be stuck. Just flash the 10B TOT using the .DLL that was extracted from the 35B KDZ, root with the Stump app, install TWRP with TWRP Manager from the Play Store and flash whatever you want.
This might be a little late for you but had to replace my verizon vs985 lg g3 back in December. I paid my $100 copay, and Asurion sent me refurb. Even when it looks like a retail phone it's usually a refurb unless the phone is brand new and they haven't gotten any bad ones back to fix up. Asurion doesn't have a repair department. This is the first smartphone I've gotten through asurion, back in the days of flip phones I got a bunch of replacements and often I had to get 2-3 before I got a refurb that actually worked. This g3 worked ok on the first try, although I do have one weird rebooting issue, that started a week after I got it, and recently got way worse may or may not be hardware related, theoretically they should send me another refurb if it is hardware under their warranty(without another copay), but I have a feeling getting them to honor it will be a battle.
It came with Lollipop at the time, i forget if it was 5.0.1. or 5.1.1.
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This g3 worked ok on the first try, although I do have one weird rebooting issue, that started a week after I got it, and recently got way worse may or may not be hardware related, theoretically they should send me another refurb if it is hardware under their warranty(without another copay), but I have a feeling getting them to honor it will be a battle.
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If I were you, before bothering try anything else I would restore to stock using the 10B TOT, because TOTs flash more partitions than KDZs and can fix weird issues that flashing KDZs and other ROMs can't.
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If I were you, before bothering try anything else I would restore to stock using the 10B TOT, because TOTs flash more partitions than KDZs and can fix weird issues that flashing KDZs and other ROMs can't.
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My refurbished phone is stock never rooted never flashed verizon vs985 currently on 5.1.1. It reboots only during phone calls. Do you think rooting it and doing all that stuff you suggested, would be of any use to me?
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My refurbished phone is stock never rooted never flashed verizon vs985 currently on 5.1.1. It reboots only during phone calls. Do you think rooting it and doing all that stuff you suggested, would be of any use to me?
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I understand that. You don't have to root it - rooting isn't involved in what I'm suggesting; it's using official LG ROM files and the Windows software necessary to flash them. I'd flash the 10B TOT using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Then I'd test the situation you describe while still on 10B and see if it reboots. If it doesn't, I'd flash the 47A KDZ and test it again.
Edit: unless you don't have the original USB cable. Always use the original USB cable that comes with a device when new to flash a phone from a PC.
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There's no way of knowing if whoever actually refurbed the phone did what they should in order to return the software to a pristine condition. They obviously didn't QC their effort very well. It's possible they didn't even do anything to the phone. There's also no way of knowing if the person who owned the phone before it was refurbished ever rooted it. Even if they had (for example) flashed the 35B KDZ before they refurbished it (it's common to return to stock unrooted before turning a phone in under warranty), flashing KDZs doesn't solve as much as flashing TOTs does.
A couple of months ago I was having consistent weird issues that wouldn't go away no matter what ROM I flashed while rooted, or what KDZ I flashed. It wasn't until I flashed the 10B TOT that the issue went away - from there I was able to do again whatever I wanted (flashing ROMs, KDZs) without the issue returning.
Or you can exchange for another refurb and take a chance that you might get yet another different or worse half-effort fixed phone.
I cannot even find any information on this device let alone a root method. Apparently from my searches methods for the zenphone may work but im not sure if I want to risk bricking this device, but verizon would just replace it anyway. I guess its fairly new? It came with MM and already has an OTA which i keep putting off while I am going to try out various methods to get this one rooted and unleashed since one verizon store essentially scammed me over my new s7 edge so another store refunded everything for me. Now I got this 4g tablet I want to fasten in my car and it would be nice to root or unlock and put some custom vehicle firmware on it or something like that.
I have the same issue with my new Zenpad 3 8.0 . KingRoot and some other rooting apps didn't work for me.
At least someone finally replies.... I am still stuck trying to root this thing. I've tried nearly everything to no success. Even the temporary cwm wouldn't work for me
Same here buddy. Why did ASUS remove such features as App to SD and multi user support?
Anyone found anything? I have the tablet too...
Well damn this sux, Verizon stuck me with another unrootable device, at least I can say I got my pixel in time to unlock the bootloader and route it but not much activity for it since decided to lock them down. I thought I learned with my G4 that's why I got the pixel got home just to find out they're going to be locked down too lol Oh God how I loath Verizon
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Well damn this sux, Verizon stuck me with another unrootable device, at least I can say I got my pixel in time to unlock the bootloader and route it but not much activity for it since decided to lock them down. I thought I learned with my G4 that's why I got the pixel got home just to find out they're going to be locked down too lol Oh God how I loath Verizon
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I hear ya. I have this tablet too: Asus Verizon Zenpad Z8 ZT581KL with V.3.4.23. Despite my best efforts, the damn system update notification keeps coming up telling me to update to Android 7--which I DO NOT want to do since doing that very well could kill any small hope I have on rooting the device. Since this is a Verizon branded tablet, they made an agreement with Asus to lock it down like Gitmo, so any official bootloader unlocker will not work with Verizon. Maybe one day when Verizon get's their head out of their ass and understands that people have the right to screw with their phones, they will allow unlocking options--though I doubt it.
This would be a great little tablet, if Verizon gave us more control over it--Jesus Christ, you're still getting $$ from me on your non-unlimited data. Bunch of ****-tards---I used to work for them back in the day at one of their corporate locations in Folsom, CA. Sadly, I think it's that prison mentality (Folsom Prison) that must have been carried in the air a few miles to the Verizon offices there. That was WDTS (Wireless Data Tech Support)....I was there right when EVDO just came out/expanding (Before Iphones...closest thing would have been a BES-Enabled Blackberry, or a fancy PDA)--oh those were the days...
There are rooting options available if you understand Chinese--but even its for older software versions 3.3.x, etc, and from what I can understand, the flash might actually take (hackers take note: if the flash can take..maybe we can piece together a flash with proper rooted versions)...but since this is a Sim/LTE tablet by doing that it will screw up the radio (Cellular) and recovery partitions. But maybe something round-about could be done that does that, then reflashes modified signed firmware to root it--I dunno.
My google-fu is pretty good and I came across some cached, or snippet that said SRSroot might root 6.0.1 on the ZT581KL, but not sure now legit it is.
Unless more people get this tablet/devs play with it, I don't think we will get root/bootloader/recovery anytime soon. I wish I lived in a country that allowed multiple wifes, because I would do a bounty for root on this devices and give away one of my wives for payment.
I used the tablet mostly for navigation, but I want root/twrp for backup purposes, if I need to wipe the device crossing the border since police now wanting to look at peoples phones/tablets. I love using Waze since I'll be driving down the road with a FAT blunt smoking away, so it's good to know if cops are around.
Zenpad z8 running on Fi
I also have this pad. I bought it from Verizon because it's USB-C and I loathe micro USB and even more so because the helpful sales guy at Verizon let me try my Google Fi data only sim...and sure enough it works awesome after setting h2g2 as the apn. Would love to root it though I hate how I can only have one user account on this for now.
Kind of off-topic, but I can't find any clear answer to my question about the Z8 and Z8s. I'm considering buying one, but I do not want a data-plan. Do these tablets work without a SIM in them, or will I be stuck at a home screen that says "Insert SIM..."?
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Kind of off-topic, but I can't find any clear answer to my question about the Z8 and Z8s. I'm considering buying one, but I do not want a data-plan. Do these tablets work without a SIM in them, or will I be stuck at a home screen that says "Insert SIM..."?
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Of course you can use it without a SIM.
I just ordered this tablet. I'm sad I can't root it, but I mainly use root for adblocking. I will have to use DNS66 or BlockThis instead.
This method doesn't work?
https://neopodapsi.com/how-to-root-asus-zenpad-z8/
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This method doesn't work?
Nope, just a scam to fill out never ending surveys
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Zenpad P008 Verizon root - no luck
I just tried One Click Root and that didn't work either. Upon chatting with support they were stymied by the lack of an 'OEM Override' debug mode setting.
Can anybody help, I'm new at this stuff. Plus I'm teaching myself. I've rooted some devices. Did some firmware jobs, kinda' familiar with Odin. But I've tried everything from KingRoot PC to adb tryna' root this thing (P008). Between this thing and that Knox MDM shizzle. Man!, Anybody got anything on these topics......
Anyone try Magisk?? I also want to root this thing. Cannot get a usb gaming controller to recognize either.