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So coming from the world of iPad.. yeah yeah, groan, another one of these, haha... I find that there's a big gap that Samsung\Android\Google has in the following areas when it comes to apps for tablet:
- Lack of an easy way to sort by "tablet optimized" ... the market has a Tablet featured section, but it doesn't seem to be able to search and sort by tablet only apps. This is very difficult to navigate.
- The term HD used to mean tablet optimized, but it seems this is becoming less and less common as some phones are now "HD" so the developers are more and more reluctant to call them HD to mean Tablet Edition.
Does anyone have any advice for me as to a good way to sort through and find apps specifically designed for the Tablet devices? I have the 10.1 so obviously the tablet apps are kinda a must, otherwise my eyes hurt looking at the low-res conversions of phone apps, haha.
Or is there a tracker that tracks Android TABLET Versions of apps available and as they come out?
There is a thread in the xoom or transformer forum that is keeping track of tablet compatible apps.
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There is a thread in the xoom or transformer forum that is keeping track of tablet compatible apps.
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No link? (usually it's customary to provide the link when referencing another forum)... kinda gives credibility to the comment, hehe.
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bella92108 said:
Entitlement in this country is so strange
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Way to try and boost your post count. Congrats on posting the most worthless post of the day. You clearly need to look up the word entitlement and educate yourself as to what's entitlement and what's not.
Oh by the way, I just found a website selling the Galaxy Tab 10.1 32 GB models for $529... wanna know the link? Oh, it's on google, or yahoo or somewhere.
The point is when someone asks a question, and you take the time to respond, it's generally the norm that if you're are going to point them in the direction in the name of being helpful, that you indicate a location of a thread.. Saying they thought they saw something, maybe in the xoom, maybe in the transformer thread, that narrows it down to only about 2500 threads. Common sense. If you don't know an answer it's OK to say I DONT KNOW, or say nothing at all.
A smart man keeps his mouth shut when he doesn't know an answer.
EDIT - I just did a review of your last 10 posts. Every one you argue for the sake of arguing, providing zero benefit to any of the 150 conversations you've participated in over the past 4 years.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
Took about one minute to find
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
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Ahh, yes, I've read this post before and was afraid that's what that user was referring to.
Unfortunately the question I asked was not which apps are COMPATIBLE with Android 3.1\Galaxy Tab, but that are in fact optimized for Galaxy Tab.
Sorry I thought I was clear. I understand most apps will run and be compatible with 3.1. but their resolution is poor ... so I was more looking for info as to if there is a thread where someone is keeping track of native tablet apps as they're released.
Thanks!
EDIT: I re-read my OP, and I was clear that I wasn't looking for a "compatible app" list as most apps are in fact compatible, but in fact looking for tablet-optimized\specific apps.
if you read that thread, you would see that there is a green asterisk next to all apps that are optimized for tablet viewing. Honestly, someone has to do the work of compiling these lists...if you're unhappy with what's available, create one!
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if you read that thread, you would see that there is a green asterisk next to all apps that are optimized for tablet viewing. Honestly, someone has to do the work of compiling these lists...if you're unhappy with what's available, create one!
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Yeah, was going to create one of the apps as I find them, but no need to reinvent the wheel until I've asked if anyone has already, hehe.
I'll open a thread in the general or apps section under galaxy tab 10.1
I had that same question and I wrote to someone at the Android Market and this is the response I got:
"Thank you for your feedback. The ‘Android Apps for Tablets’ section contains featured apps for the tablet. As you’ve mentioned, it isn’t a comprehensive listing of all apps that are designed for your Honeycomb tablet.
If an app is listed in the Android Market accessed from the tablet, the developer of the app has indicated that it is compatible with your device.
I appreciate your feedback regarding the labeling of this section and will forward it to the rest of the Android team."
I had asked about apps optimized for tablets/honeycomb...but regardless of what I asked, the above is the response I got.
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I had that same question and I wrote to someone at the Android Market and this is the response I got:
"Thank you for your feedback. The ‘Android Apps for Tablets’ section contains featured apps for the tablet. As you’ve mentioned, it isn’t a comprehensive listing of all apps that are designed for your Honeycomb tablet.
If an app is listed in the Android Market accessed from the tablet, the developer of the app has indicated that it is compatible with your device.
I appreciate your feedback regarding the labeling of this section and will forward it to the rest of the Android team."
I had asked about apps optimized for tablets/honeycomb...but regardless of what I asked, the above is the response I got.
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They don't seem to see value in their own new OS. The biggest anti-android tablet marketing tool Apple is using is "look, they don't even have apps for tablet" and when Android hides them or doesn't give option to show they do have tablet-optimized apps, it makes Apple look right.
1. First I highly suggest you install AppBrain as you'll get a lot more detail from there about apps. Visit appbrain.com and you will see what I mean. It gives you the links to the Android marketplace so you won't have to install unknown apks.
2. Sorry about the people on the forum. Sometimes people can be testy about newbies and their questions. Feel free to PM me with any questions. It takes a while to get the hang of things but the core Android supporters are pretty good at finding things for themselves. We've had plenty of practice.
3. Don't be afraid to start threads about things like this. Most of us don't pay attention to little things like this. To you, this a big thing and I can see it might turn alot of people away from Android tablets if they don't fix it. Perhaps a petition or thousands of e-mails will get their attention.
4. All of the apps I have installed (152) look great. Which ones are you having problems with? E-mail the developers and let us know as well so we can test them out. If they suck, we could all give the developers some feedback on it.
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1. First I highly suggest you install AppBrain as you'll get a lot more detail from there about apps. Visit appbrain.com and you will see what I mean. It gives you the links to the Android marketplace so you won't have to install unknown apks.
2. Sorry about the people on the forum. Sometimes people can be testy about newbies and their questions. Feel free to PM me with any questions. It takes a while to get the hang of things but the core Android supporters are pretty good at finding things for themselves. We've had plenty of practice.
3. Don't be afraid to start threads about things like this. Most of us don't pay attention to little things like this. To you, this a big thing and I can see it might turn alot of people away from Android tablets if they don't fix it. Perhaps a petition or thousands of e-mails will get their attention.
4. All of the apps I have installed (152) look great. Which ones are you having problems with? E-mail the developers and let us know as well so we can test them out. If they suck, we could all give the developers some feedback on it.
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Oh I completely forgot about Appbrain Thanks And thanks for offering to help. I appreciate it.
There are very few apps that don't work... in fact, I haven't run into any that don't work, I was more asking because for example when comparing an app like Stock Alert - Tablet Edition to an app like Fidelity which doesn't have a tablet app (well they have iPad but not Android 3.1 tab yet), I more meant I just like the ones that are specifically made to take advantage of the tablet's great screen size.
Thanks again, you're class all the way, your response picked me up and made my day. I appreciate it.
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I had that same question and I wrote to someone at the Android Market and this is the response I got:
"Thank you for your feedback. The ‘Android Apps for Tablets’ section contains featured apps for the tablet. As you’ve mentioned, it isn’t a comprehensive listing of all apps that are designed for your Honeycomb tablet.
If an app is listed in the Android Market accessed from the tablet, the developer of the app has indicated that it is compatible with your device.
I appreciate your feedback regarding the labeling of this section and will forward it to the rest of the Android team."
I had asked about apps optimized for tablets/honeycomb...but regardless of what I asked, the above is the response I got.
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Let's say it this way. If the Android Market doesn't have a up to date tablet/honeycomb section, it is very difficult for developers to develop tablet optimized apps. Because, why investing in this new platform when you get buried between the 400.000 apps currently on the market?
It's the first section that's on the market's main page... how is it hard to find or view apps marked as tablet friendly?
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It's the first section that's on the market's main page... how is it hard to find or view apps marked as tablet friendly?
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I guess it is even harder to comprehend the word "featured"
Agreed. When visiting the app store on an iPad, there are two very distinct sections, iPhone apps and iPad apps. Everyone knows that the phone apps will run on the tablet, but that's not a reason to lump them all together.
I think the use case is something like this:
1. I need a nice twitter client.
2. Check tablet section for twitter client.
3. If none found, settle for phone version.
Obviously the tablet version (like Tweetcomb) will use fragments to utilize the screen real estate. A phone client would not. The problem with not seperating the app market properly is that you may end up settling for a Honeycomb "compatible" app when there was a much more useful "designed for Honeycomb" app you didn't notice.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like people here are hesitant to accept some of these flaws as they try to justify their $500-$600 purchase. I for one love my Tab, if merely for the widget capability and Flash support. We need to realize that the way to bring Android tablets more mainstream is to take our heads out of the sand, accept that these are real issues, and make it known to the powers at be. Ignoring the problems and pretending that all is well with the Honeycomb ecosystem just won't work.
Edit: If Apple isn't too proud to copy Android's multitasking ability, notification system, etc to make a superior product; Android shouldn't hesitate to do the same where it makes sense. It's just good business, and even better for consumers.
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Agreed. When visiting the app store on an iPad, there are two very distinct sections, iPhone apps and iPad apps. Everyone knows that the phone apps will run on the tablet, but that's not a reason to lump them all together.
I think the use case is something like this:
1. I need a nice twitter client.
2. Check tablet section for twitter client.
3. If none found, settle for phone version.
Obviously the tablet version (like Tweetcomb) will use fragments to utilize the screen real estate. A phone client would not. The problem with not seperating the app market properly is that you may end up settling for a Honeycomb "compatible" app when there was a much more useful "designed for Honeycomb" app you didn't notice.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like people here are hesitant to accept some of these flaws as they try to justify their $500-$600 purchase. I for one love my Tab, if merely for the widget capability and Flash support. We need to realize that the way to bring Android tablets more mainstream is to take our heads out of the sand, accept that these are real issues, and make it known to the powers at be. Ignoring the problems and pretending that all is well with the Honeycomb ecosystem just won't work.
Edit: If Apple isn't too proud to copy Android's multitasking ability, notification system, etc to make a superior product; Android shouldn't hesitate to do the same where it makes sense. It's just good business, and even better for consumers.
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Totally agree with you Blaine. There's no reason why they can't use the exact same structure and call it something else. Apple is taking features like BBM and now Google is working on their own. The market is getting better but it should be further along now.
I wonder how we as consumers can get this message across. I try using other App Markets but I would really like the Google Marketplace to get with the program. They should at least require them to put HD in the title or market them with a special color.
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It's the first section that's on the market's main page... how is it hard to find or view apps marked as tablet friendly?
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Not here in Europe. There is nothing that even remotely refer to such a category or section.
http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/?hl=en_US
We should all e-mail the Android Market support team and tell them of this. I'm going to link to this thread in my correspondence.
Now that I got you in here, I was reading a Yahoo story about how Android operating systems had a hidden app that was stealing keystrokes and other information from end users. One guy called out a company that was behind one of the apps and he was hit with a law suit to shut him up. I have not heard much about it since. How worried are we as end users? Is this behind some developer's motivations? The developers that do this as a hobby, to make donations, or some advertising income should not be smeared by this bad publicity.
I have been using custom ROMs for a while and always appreciated the efforts of devs. Don't know how international law plays into this with devs from all around the world. What are your thoughts on this (end users and devs)?
Wrong forum.
lol topic tag [Theft]
There's a reason why I don't use most of the theme packs the children "developing" for the Vibrant call custom ROMs.
lolz at yahoo news
are you talking about Carrier IQ ?
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are you talking about Carrier IQ ?
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That rings a bell. They sell information to marketing companies, as well as provide data to carriers?
apicia said:
That rings a bell. They sell information to marketing companies, as well as provide data to carriers?
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what type of data do they actually collect ? search history and email/sms ?
I wonder if MIUI and/or CM7 remove these hidden programs?
don't worry, CM excluded the program
just go to their main page website if you wanna read about that
cm7 doesnt have it, if you wanna kno if ur rom has it just download look out from the market it will check ur phone and let u kno if its clean or not
There are several apps that now scan for it. Trevor, the one who broke the story, has the app here on XDA and in the market (Logging Checker by TrevE). Supercurio, who made the Voodoo Control app, now has an app that scans for it.
There are already two threads in the General that are covering the topic.
CarrierIQ is in mainly in AOSP roms and most custom rom's don't have it including CM7 and MIUIs. In fact it is mainly HTC, Nokia and not Sammy's. Not sure if it has been detected at all in a Samsung device. Plus it is mainly Sprint phones too.
Just an fyi in case you are freaking out for no reason.
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There are several apps that now scan for it. Trevor, the one who broke the story, has the app here on XDA and in the market (Logging Checker by TrevE). Supercurio, who made the Voodoo Control app, now has an app that scans for it.
There are already two threads in the General that are covering the topic.
CarrierIQ is in mainly in AOSP roms and most custom rom's don't have it including CM7 and MIUIs. In fact it is mainly HTC, Nokia and not Sammy's. Not sure if it has been detected at all in a Samsung device. Plus it is mainly Sprint phones too.
Just an fyi in case you are freaking out for no reason.
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Was watching a video where it showed keystrokes being recorded from an https site. With all the identity theft going on, we need some good guys on our side.
I'm quite puzzled by Motorola's lack of vision in unifying apps compatibility across it's range.
The fact that Xoom apps don't work outside of the US on MZ60x 's is just plain rude considering it has nothing to do with carrier/location/hardware limitations.
The Razr/Bionic/Atrix 2 have some great apps and should be available to all.
Something that intrigues me are both the SmartActions and MOTOCHAT.
A possible rival to RIM'S BBM should be a major deal and available on ALL MOTOs (along with motoprint, blur, etc).
As us outside the US are given almost no heed, I was wondering if any kind and enterprising souls could post all Motorola Mobility apks here.
Thanks for listening.
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It's so they can produce incremental hardware upgrades while implementing in-demand software on each release, hence justifying (to themselves anyways) for overcharging consumers.
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I'm quite puzzled by Motorola's lack of vision in unifying apps compatibility across it's range.
The fact that Xoom apps don't work outside of the US on MZ60x 's is just plain rude considering it has nothing to do with carrier/location/hardware limitations.
The Razr/Bionic/Atrix 2 have some great apps and should be available to all.
Something that intrigues me are both the SmartActions and MOTOCHAT.
A possible rival to RIM'S BBM should be a major deal and available on ALL MOTOs (along with motoprint, blur, etc).
As us outside the US are given almost no heed, I was wondering if any kind and enterprising souls could post all Motorola Mobility apks here.
Thanks for listening.
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I've looked into porting SmartActions a few times and each time it just took me deeper and deeper into the Razr system only to end with bootloops. I really don't understand why we have 2.3.6 builds but they don't have the new Blur or SAs. I think it comes down to a lack interest by Moto. I kind of feel like our 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 builds were done built some employees free time, or while they were supposed to be doing something else.
That said, I'm very doubtful we'll see ICS. (Please don't turn this into an ICS thread)
I'll undoubtedly keep trying to get the new new Blur and SAs ported to our device, but that's probably because I crave disappointment.
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I've looked into porting SmartActions a few times and each time it just took me deeper and deeper into the Razr system only to end with bootloops. I really don't understand why we have 2.3.6 builds but they don't have the new Blur or SAs. I think it comes down to a lack interest by Moto. I kind of feel like our 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 builds were done built some employees free time, or while they were supposed to be doing something else.
That said, I'm very doubtful we'll see ICS. (Please don't turn this into an ICS thread)
I'll undoubtedly keep trying to get the new new Blur and SAs ported to our device, but that's probably because I crave disappointment.
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Nottach, I'm highly programming illiterate,so I highly value any effort done by people like you.
It's sad that a device like the Atrix (with it's very current hardware) is now treated like a naughty stepchild despite it's flagship status 5 months ago and CES heroics.
Even the latest Kal-el SoC has just 1GB of RAM despite the quad cores, so even the most processor intensive apps should be covered.
And that's why Apple does so well.
Google/carriers/manufacturers need to keep promises and buck up.
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And this is another thing that disheartens me. There's no doubt that Motorola does have some "bright" developers/engineers working for them but it seems that their main goal is to fragment their own ecosystem in an effort to persuade people into upgrading their devices at a higher rate while trying to confine you into their structure. Which can be said for pretty much anyone else like Apple and Microsoft but I feel Motorola does it more blatantly to the point where its more detrimental to the consumer rather than an inconvenience.
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I've looked into porting SmartActions a few times and each time it just took me deeper and deeper into the Razr system only to end with bootloops. I really don't understand why we have 2.3.6 builds but they don't have the new Blur or SAs. I think it comes down to a lack interest by Moto. I kind of feel like our 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 builds were done built some employees free time, or while they were supposed to be doing something else.
That said, I'm very doubtful we'll see ICS. (Please don't turn this into an ICS thread)
I'll undoubtedly keep trying to get the new new Blur and SAs ported to our device, but that's probably because I crave disappointment.
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I'm starting to believe that Moto is merely a trend setter in this department. Samsung and HTC products refresh so quickly in Asia that 6 months seem to be the upgrade cycle (in a region where carriers offer no subsidies).
On a sidenote, how do I post apps via mobile/xda premium on threads? I want to start the ball rolling!
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Here are a few Moto-apps (free,Android Market,modified for ALL DEVICES)
that may not be available to all countries.
The MOTOprint app is an earlier,free version.
I had nothing to do with these,just publicly available.
vlingo was not available outside the US.
Other apps not on worldwide Atrix's (MB/ME860) were Zumocast(!!!),
MotoLounge(Australia only) and Moto PIM sync.
Even the Webtop app is different!
As, usual,I had nothing to do with this attached app,just publicly available.
I apologize if I've derailed the point of your thread, sometimes I get all "99%" without realizing it. This is definitely a good topic and I hope more people look into making these apps/services cross-compatible.
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I'm starting to believe that Moto is merely a trend setter in this department. Samsung and HTC products refresh so quickly in Asia that 6 months seem to be the upgrade cycle (in a region where carriers offer no subsidies).
On a sidenote, how do I post apps via mobile/xda premium on threads? I want to start the ball rolling!
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I apologize if I've derailed the point of your thread, sometimes I get all "99%" without realizing it. This is definitely a good topic and I hope more people look into making these apps/services cross-compatible.
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No worries, i've been guilty of that in the past as well.
I've posted some cross-compatible apks for those who may not have 'em/
flashed their mobiles.
Here's a Zumocast that works well with my Archos 70S and Motorola MB511
Flipout and A855 Milestone/Droid.
Hhhmmm...
it now states that Motochat v01.03 is only supported by devices
with Android 2.3.7 (rather than 2.3 and above) to 3.2;since 2nd Jan 2012.
Is it impossible to make it work with 2.3.4 and above?
I also have some hilarious screens regarding the Atrix's "compatibilty" with Atrix-specific Apps. Granted apps are for the US version, but the eco-system should
allow us to download them anyway. Whether or not they work is up to us. (ala
International-market Droids, the A853 and XT720)
The "Certificate Updater" was really only an issue with the 4.1.83 build that had to do with the Atrix not being able to access mobile banking sites, and I think it was an US-only issue. That was still Froyo too. It has since been fixed with subsequent releases.
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Hhhmmm...
it now states that Motochat v01.03 is only supported by devices
with Android 2.3.7 (rather than 2.3 and above) to 3.2;since 2nd Jan 2012.
Is it impossible to make it work with 2.3.4 and above?
I also have some hilarious screens regarding the Atrix's "compatibilty" with Atrix-specific Apps. Granted apps are for the US version, but the eco-system should
allow us to download them anyway. Whether or not they work is up to us. (ala
International-market Droids, the A853 and XT720)
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The "Certificate Updater" was really only an issue with the 4.1.83 build that had to do with the Atrix not being able to access mobile banking sites, and I think it was an US-only issue. That was still Froyo too. It has since been fixed with subsequent releases.
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Understood, but Motorola Mobility have an awesome track record of incompatibility issues with their world-market devices; such as Android Market stating that the Droid-Flashlight app (ooh!) won't work with the Milestone A853 or even better,Moto-Pack FOR TABLETS not working with the MZ601/604.
It doesn't recognize overseas devices for the most part.
My previous phone,the MB511 was detected as a Defy MB525 for 2 months
before it said "Flipout" once market hit 2.2.7.
UK Market Atrix were only updated to 2.3.4 last week,and also had mobile-
banking bloatware courtesy of Orange.
Chinese "Shop4apps" specific apps i get, but this is too much.
Hence the thread, a way to unify all MB860/ME860 users.
I understand and I totally agree. You can ask anyone that knows me, I'm usually the first one in line if someone is throwing a "Motorola-Bashing" party.
It's quite frustrating and I have my theories, but they are usually border-line conspiracy theories. All in all, I feel there needs to be more petitions brought out against Motorola and other companies that decide to undertake these business practices and marketing that are disadvantageous to the end user.
We are the 99%! (sorry, got carried away again)
But from the other end of the spectrum, consumers need to take the time to educate themselves on products and whether there is going to be a mutual ascension in compatibility and, thus, make better purchasing decisions that would pressure companies into providing a more consistent platform.
EDIT: To elaborate even further, HTC did well being consistent (profits soared) with Sense until they got carried away and tried to maximize even further with incremental (and ultimately fragmented) developments in their lineup and now they are starting to come down to earth. Now Samsung is on top with their Galaxy "S" line but now I see them trying to diversify their lineup with "M" and "W", etc etc, series and I see them flattening out soon.
andri2805 said:
Understood, but Motorola Mobility have an awesome track record of incompatibility issues with their world-market devices; such as Android Market stating that the Droid-Flashlight app (ooh!) won't work with the Milestone A853 or even better,Moto-Pack FOR TABLETS not working with the MZ601/604.
UK Market Atrix were only updated to 2.3.4 last week,and also had mobile-
banking bloatware courtesy of Orange.
Chinese "Shop4apps" specific apps i get, but this is too much.
Hence the thread, a way to unify all MB860/ME860 users.
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agreed.latest moto-phone always get latest features.unfair to us all.
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agreed.latest moto-phone always get latest features.unfair to us all.
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welcome to the thread! pls post ANYTHING Atrix/ME860 here.
Today, i've discovered something else i don't have.
RICH LOCATION app.
so what's motochat? I've looked for it and can't find it anywhere.
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welcome to the thread! pls post ANYTHING Atrix/ME860 here.
Today, i've discovered something else i don't have.
RICH LOCATION app.
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I don't like that rich location app. events and information do not seem up to date in my area.
Motochat (beta) seems to be motorola's BBM rival. Weirdly only works on 2.3.7. I would expect something this crucial to be available even on the motokey social ex118!
Thanks regarding the Rich Location app.
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Motorola RICH LOCATION apk
....and here's the RICH LOCATION app.
"Garbage" according to some, but i think it's incredibly useful and
forward thinking.
It uses your phone's location services to determine where you are IN ANY CITY
and lists services/promotions/places of interest within a predetermined radius.
Extra services include Yelp! plus the usual listed businesses.
Well done to the devs.
By the way: the Rich Location app has been renamed to Social Location. You may find it under this new name on the Atrix 4G. There are some countries that this app will not come installed by default, though. As you mentioned that you used Rich Location in the past, I assume that the app is available in your area.
Hello all!
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I'm a fellow Nexus 10 owner. I love my device, but I'm a bit tired of facing applications that are low-resolution and unoptimized for the incredible display we have on the Nexus 10. Even tablet-optimized apps are lacking. Aren't you frustrated? Hence, I thought we could do something about it as a community.
Which is the purpose of this thread!
Here's how it will work. This first post will serve as a compilation of all the petitions made to any and all developers to optimize their applications for tablets, and also the Nexus 10's display. Any subsequent posts in this thread shall be for petition requests and discussion, which I will personally put together and post up to the petition site being used for this purpose (Care2 as of this thread's posting). I will then add a direct link to that petition to this thread, sorted by category. Feel free to make any suggestions or to criticize! I will also start us off with a petition I have already created myself: to the developers of the Bloons TD series of games, Ninja Kiwi.
I'll try to keep things simple! Keep on topic, please, and try your best to sign each and every petition. Its the only way we'll be able to actually push developers to optimize their applications for tablets like ours! So, without further ado, let us begin!
Petition List
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Bloons TD 5 - Optimize Bloons TD 5 for Android Tablets
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Facebook - Optimize Facebook for Android Tablets
Instagram - Optimize Instagram for Android Tablets
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This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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JasW said:
This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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JasW said:
This is likely Google's job, not ours.
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I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!
brees75 said:
No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
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A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
Like previously said all those social apps need optimization for sure. And the xda app needs optimization. I think there's an HD version but it costs money
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
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I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
This deserved a quick update post: the petitions for Facebook and Instagram are now online. Facebook already has a few votes!
I just signed Facebook one.
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What's the address part for?
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What's the address part for?
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So that you can be stalked lol. No need to put you real address I made one up and it didn't even check if it was right
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What's the address part for?
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Yeah, what abdel said lol.
Its mostly to confirm that you're a real person with a real place to live, that kinda stuff.
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EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
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Don't worry, you're not discouraging (me, at least).
Android Tablet market share has been steadily on the rise - in fact, it rivals the iPad. According to many statistics, they are slated to pass (if they have not already) Apple devices in tablet market share by the 3rd quarter. I listed 3 (or 4?) links in all of the petitions.
As for Google, they have been doing a great job lately. They added dedicated tablet sections to Google Play, and have been pushing developers to adhere to the guidelines constantly. I say keep up that pressure!
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Thanks! We need more people like you here. Keep it up!
As for everyone else, keep an eye out for new petitions; and, most importantly of all:
SIGN THEM!!!!
We have hundreds of views on this thread, yet most people don't seem to want to take 60 seconds and sign the petitions, oddly enough. And this is a Nexus 10 forum. Keep it up, anyway! We CAN do this with enough time.
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One of these days I plan to actually try to learn some Android development; I'll be sure to make whatever apps I make optimized for the N10 though :good:
We all know S Voice was going to be sub par when compared to Google Now - that was a given.
I was quite shocked to see that it does not even allow me to add tasks on the GEAR S .. saying "adding tasks is not supported" !!!! I do not understand why? Especially if it supported on phones itself, and I do set quite a bit of reminders and was hoping you can via the watch! Any workaround?
same with me btw it´s the same for calendar - so we need the root
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same with me btw it´s the same for calendar - so we need the root
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unlikely root will solve this issue. Tizen is not open source, adding s-voice features will likely have to come from samsung even with root. Look over at gear 2 root threads, very limited benefits to root.
Still would be nice to have, but set your expectations realistically.
Thats a big shame! If they would want to compete with android wear S voice needs to atep up.. At least to match whats on the phone - which isnt very impressive to begin with
If you aak "where am i" it says not supported as well!
Hoping sa!!y update
No task creation and no email replies or creation are truly bummers. I can kinda see the calender thing but again, it has s-voice and one would think it could do what the phone with s-voice is capable of doing.
The above are where I think Samsung dropped the ball in order to get it out before the holiday season. Hopefully some updates come through soon.
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No task creation and no email replies or creation are truly bummers. I can kinda see the calender thing but again, it has s-voice and one would think it could do what the phone with s-voice is capable of doing.
The above are where I think Samsung dropped the ball in order to get it out before the holiday season. Hopefully some updates come through soon.
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Yeah they rushed it out once they heard Apple was releasing that smartwatch of there's this year only to find that Apples wont be out until next year gives Samsung time to make a better one for MWC 2015 (Around the time S6 is to be unveiled)
This is the beta version like the gear 1 was gear 2 got better. Gear live just to say we have an android smartwatch too
yes, this is very disappointing. I used this feature A LOT with my gear 2. I tried to do it this morning and now I can't remeber what I was trying to remind my self lol
On the bright side, this is something that can be resolved through a software update.. Giving the fact that samsung actually do give the device enough attention to push out updates.. As opposed to just devices..
My Notes... you have to open it up, but you can speak a reminder into it and it will sync across all your devices.
Any news??... i'm really need this..
I gave up. The entire point of having a smart watch is to have notifications and reminders .. Android wear and very nice. I have a moto360 now after owning ever Samsung watch and will never go back. I have been coming back to see if there are any new development with this and there is none almost a year later?