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I know some of you are keeping track of the weight of different batteries to see if there's anything heavier than the stock battery which would presumable indicate more battery life.
I have access to a highly accurate gram scale so I thought I would post some info here for the folks looking for it.
49.288 grams = Stock Samsung 2500mah Battery
49.313 grams = Ebay "Gold" 3000mah Battery
48.710 grams = Anker 2700mah Battery
Now for my opinion...
The Ebay Battery seems to be pretty much be the same as the stock battery in terms of useful life. The Anker Battery does seem to last a tiny bit longer however..
I would guess the extra weight of the Ebay vs Stock is due to the foil sticker on the Ebay battery as it feels slightly thicker.
I really don't think there is a stock sized battery out there that lasts much longer than the stock battery. If it did exist you can be sure that Samsung would make it and sell it to you as an accessory for $50. And honestly i'd pay $50 for a real 2900-3000 mah battery that fit under the stock battery cover.
If you want a tiny bit extra (Around 15 minutes screen on time) then the Anker 2700 is the best i've found so far, but just by a tiny margin. I average about 3 hours of screen on time with the stock battery.
Here's the link for the Ebay "Gold" Battery
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-3000MA...ccessories&hash=item2c629be698#ht_2396wt_1141
And the Anker 2700
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-Upgra...ccessories&hash=item4d018c5d98#ht_1696wt_1398
First, thanks for sharing your data... a batteries weight (given the fixed volume) correlates well with its potential capacity. The battery aftermarket is flooded with extraordinary capacity claims most of which have little or no bearing on reality...
Second, the Ankor battery has received some good subjective reviews and your info seems to support them. Have you used it long enough to comment on how it's performance has held up over time?
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I wish I could find the link where a member dissected his battery and found there to be filler in place of where battery should have been. I remember it being a Hyperion battery and it supposedly being the same Ma/h as stock. I think the final conclusion was it was an 1800ma/h pack, with filler to make it weigh close to stock. That kind of crap is sooo shady.
Edit found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559611
Now I remember why those batteries went in the trash a couple days ago, they did not last long
omniphil said:
I know some of you are keeping track of the weight of different batteries to see if there's anything heavier than the stock battery which would presumable indicate more battery life.
I have access to a highly accurate gram scale so I thought I would post some info here for the folks looking for it.
49.288 grams = Stock Samsung 2500mah Battery
49.313 grams = Ebay "Gold" 3000mah Battery
48.710 grams = Anker 2700mah Battery
Now for my opinion...
The Ebay Battery seems to be pretty much be the same as the stock battery in terms of useful life. The Anker Battery does seem to last a tiny bit longer however..
I would guess the extra weight of the Ebay vs Stock is due to the foil sticker on the Ebay battery as it feels slightly thicker.
I really don't think there is a stock sized battery out there that lasts much longer than the stock battery. If it did exist you can be sure that Samsung would make it and sell it to you as an accessory for $50. And honestly i'd pay $50 for a real 2900-3000 mah battery that fit under the stock battery cover.
If you want a tiny bit extra (Around 15 minutes screen on time) then the Anker 2700 is the best i've found so far, but just by a tiny margin. I average about 3 hours of screen on time with the stock battery.
Here's the link for the Ebay "Gold" Battery
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-3000MA...ccessories&hash=item2c629be698#ht_2396wt_1141
And the Anker 2700
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-Upgra...ccessories&hash=item4d018c5d98#ht_1696wt_1398
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vizographic said:
First, thanks for sharing your data... a batteries weight (given the fixed volume) correlates well with its potential capacity. The battery aftermarket is flooded with extraordinary capacity claims most of which have little or no bearing on reality...
Second, the Ankor battery has received some good subjective reviews and your info seems to support them. Have you used it long enough to comment on how it's performance has held up over time?
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The Gold ebay 3000mah battery has held up well and its pretty good quality construction, even though its really just a 2500mah battery.
The Anker doesn't have enough cycles on it yet to be able to tell...
omniphil said:
The Gold ebay 3000mah battery has held up well and its pretty good quality construction, even though its really just a 2500mah battery.
The Anker doesn't have enough cycles on it yet to be able to tell...
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Omniphil, appreciate the reply, no hurry on the Ankor info; if you find it holds up to day in an day out use, I'd sure be interested.
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jb0nd38372 said:
I wish I could find the link where a member dissected his battery and found there to be filler in place of where battery should have been. I remember it being a Hyperion battery and it supposedly being the same Ma/h as stock. I think the final conclusion was it was an 1800ma/h pack, with filler to make it weigh close to stock. That kind of crap is sooo shady.
Edit found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559611
Now I remember why those batteries went in the trash a couple days ago, they did not last long
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+ 1 Hyperion = trash.
I remember that post, I had already weighed the Hyperion by that time and found it was a full 10 grams less than the stock. So. while I wasn't surprised by his findings, I was... Extra disgusted....
I went back over the post, but I didn't find that the battery was padded for weight but only for volume...in a sad way kind of a shame.. I think I would have had a little more respect for the scam if Hyperion had at least gone to that much trouble.
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Looking for an extended battery that fits in the OEM battery socket, using the original backdoor.
Does anyone know a good quality battery like that?
UPDATE: Ok, after doing my research I went for Mugen's 3350mAh one.
Reasons:
- I'm an electrical engineer and I hardly believe that you can add extra 1000mAh to the same size battery as MPJ claims and sell it for 19$ - that reminds me of my experience with cheap batteries on eBay (They remove the original label from expired batteries, put a fake and sell for cheap money). There is simply no such technology out there. I bet, Texas Instruments would instantly publish such stuff on Gigaom and it would be Breaking news.
- Mugen seems to be a respected brand among tech reviewers. I found reviews about them on Pocketnow, Engadget and Android Community.
No. Not gonna happen.
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megakony said:
Looking for an extended battery that fits in the OEM battery socket, using the original backdoor.
Does anyone know a good quality battery like that?
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MPJ has a 4500 mAh factory size battery for 19.99. Original back can be used. After some research, they seem to be a very good battery company. This particular battery has 5 stars with 40+ reviews. Add NFC for 3 bucks.
Cat Rancher said:
MPJ has a 4500 mAh factory size battery for 19.99. Original back can be used. After some research, they seem to be a very good battery company. This particular battery has 5 stars with 40+ reviews. Add NFC for 3 bucks.
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Any review online about this battery? I rarely trust reviews from websites where stuff is being sold.
I've found some reviews online about MPJ for other sizes, and all seem to be very positive. I may just pick it up and do a quick review.
Edit: Just ordered one. I'll write up a review when I get it.
PilgrimR said:
I saw that Mugen has one with 3350mAh, its called HLI-N9005SL - just google it
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5% more! No way to even confirm that, there is that much variation between batteries as is.
Cat Rancher said:
I've found some reviews online about MPJ for other sizes, and all seem to be very positive. I may just pick it up and do a quick review.
Edit: Just ordered one. I'll write up a review when I get it.
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Too many times these batteries bigger than Samsung put out as OEM are proven to be les than advertised or even die quicker than stock. I'm not optimistic about it but i'm definetly awaiting your review.
Here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Babo-4500mA..._Phone_PDA_Batteries&var=&hash=item1e807d70cc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-High-Ca..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item1c37e31390
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Me thinks the mpj is too good to be true, alas I shall await thou review. hope it works out.
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MPJ has a 4500 mAh factory size battery for 19.99. Original back can be used. After some research, they seem to be a very good battery company. This particular battery has 5 stars with 40+ reviews. Add NFC for 3 bucks.
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Did some research also n it seems great...but i am considering the 8500mah one now.
Any "extended" battery that fits with a stock battery door will only give you a few minutes more of operation if the advertised capacity is true. I would guess it would offer you less than thirty minutes more. Not worth the money. With all the standard extended batteries I've owned, that needed a custom battery door cover, gave 1.5x more run time at the very most. More times than not, two OEM batteries lasted much longer than the extended. Unless you are willing to talk about zerolemon batteries, then I would say it's a waste of money and time. Most ratings of these extended batteries are exaggerated greatly. You're lucky if you get 1.25x more uptime when compared to OEM. The quality of OEM cells are much better than third party batteries. Zerolemon might give you close to 2x more runtime, but they still aren't as much quality and have as much life, over the long run, as an official OEM battery. To get an "extended" battery that fits a stock battery door is a waste of money. The increase of run time is hardly noticeable to make the purchase worth spending the money on.
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oscarthegrouch said:
Any "extended" battery that fits with a stock battery door will only give you a few minutes more of operation if the advertised capacity is true. I would guess it would offer you less than thirty minutes more. Not worth the money. With all the standard extended batteries I've owned, that needed a custom battery door cover, gave 1.5x more run time at the very most. More times than not, two OEM batteries lasted much longer than the extended. Unless you are willing to talk about zerolemon batteries, then I would say it's a waste of money and time. Most ratings of these extended batteries are exaggerated greatly. You're lucky if you get 1.25x more uptime when compared to OEM. The quality of OEM cells are much better than third party batteries. Zerolemon might give you close to 2x more runtime, but they still aren't as much quality and have as much life, over the long run, as an official OEM battery. To get an "extended" battery that fits a stock battery door is a waste of money. The increase of run time is hardly noticeable to make the purchase worth spending the money on.
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What you say is true if only I'd get this battery and only use it, however I get it to swap with original because I don't want to alter the design of the phone. So once my original is showing low charge I swap it with the new one, so I don't think it's a waste of money.
Zerolemon is not my choice in the end - I checked them online and was not impressed. Does not look professional. I went for Mugen, because according to the feedback from respected tech sites their quality is very good.
OP you should keep in mind that these batteries are not quality tested like the original one's are, and they might catch fire and hurt you.
There have been several cases of phones catching fire or blowing up, and most of the times the reason is an unauthorized battery.
e.g. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-that-injured-18-year-old-girl-exploded-due-to-third-party-battery_id45509
If something like this does happen, Samsung will not help you or fix the phone for you, even if you are under the warranty period.
So always be cautious while using an unauthorized battery.
Just don't see how you can really cram that much add'l capacity into the same size battery for such a cheap price. Where's the trade off?
I'd like anyone who gets one of these to report back after using it for a few weeks to see how they hold up.
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Lol. Its the same as every thread created in each phone's specific forum. There aren't any extended batteries the same size as OEM. It is a Pipedream.
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Lol. Its the same as every thread created in each phone's specific forum. There aren't any extended batteries the same size as OEM. It is a Pipedream.
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what about the one in question? It offers 150mah extra. I know it's not too much, but if using two batteries (OEM + this one) it all comes up to 6550mah if I'm not mistaken, which is good.
Samsung spend millions of dollars on researching batteries. So these batteries can not keep goal.
megakony said:
what about the one in question? It offers 150mah extra. I know it's not too much, but if using two batteries (OEM + this one) it all comes up to 6550mah if I'm not mistaken, which is good.
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So why not just spend the money on a samsung battery. No worries. No issues. No checking to see that 150mah you're not going to get. Just get another stock battery. I already have mine with charger. Was $25 after tax on samsung website but after 50% off coupon.
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@rbiter said:
So why not just spend the money on a samsung battery. No worries. No issues. No checking to see that 150mah you're not going to get. Just get another stock battery. I already have mine with charger. Was $25 after tax on samsung website but after 50% off coupon.
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I don't have 50% coupon and I'm not from US. That battery will cost me more than Mugen.
megakony said:
I don't have 50% coupon and I'm not from US. That battery will cost me more than Mugen.
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You don't need to buy the charger, You can buy just the battery and swap it when the first one is dead. It's somewhere around 17-20 $ on eBay. I don't think it should be a problem ordering it where you live, or you can have it shipped to any of your friend or relative and tell them to send it to you.
Just received this MPJ 8500mah battery, they look like a Chinese outfit.
The cover that came with the battery. Smooth with a hump.
I have to be honest, I like the feel of it. It's cheap, doesn't feel like the dashboard of your car but its nice and big.
Samsung need to stop trying to make big phones thinner, I personally hate how thin the phone is(oem). And I have very large hands. Why not just stick a large batt in, beef it up.
Back to the battery, I went and took off the sticker wrapped around the battery, forgetting that I bought the battery with the NFC chip. So that's done for.
But the even sadder news, is that on the actual battery, it looks like it's only a 6618 milliamp capacity.
Oh well still happy enough.
Got the anker 6400mah yesterday, we will see what that brings.
Of course it is, I only really trust Zerolemon\Mugen\Anker extended batteries. Too many times these other brands are proven to be false by doing what you just mentioned.
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Had been told most of batteries are mislabeled capacity, but 6618 milliamp is acceptable. Thanks for your feedback, I'd better purchase one of these and test myself
Does anyone have any experience with this?
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171161771335
3600 mAh that fits the original back cover
NoFanboy said:
Does anyone have any experience with this?
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171161771335
3600 mAh that fits the original back cover
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Your links not working for me, and even if it did I highly doubt its any better if not worse than the stock battery. There's also another thread about a 4500mah battery here too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536324
EBay sellers lie about battery capacity. It's like a law of nature.
The fact is, Samsung and the other big names use top quality battery cells. As there haven't been leaps in the technology since the N3 was released, anyone claiming more power in the same space is full of it. If you want more capacity, you need to let your phone get thicker. If you're willing to do that, the ZeroLemon is in stock with an Otterbox style case. Their Note2 battery is top quality, and gets the capacity they claim. Same with some of the others I've heard about people testing. I see no reason the N3 version wouldn't, and just ordered one myself. The phone ends up about 2x thicker, but with 3x the battery life and a nice case to go with it.
Extended battery will make your cell phone way too heavy. Since Samsung is heavy enough, I guess you won't mind.
I personally don't think I'll get a extended battery with this beautifully designed device but I'll leave this here for anyone who may be looking for one but don't want the complete bulk of the Zerolemon .. This one doesn't look to be quite as big :thumbup: cheerz
http://www.amazon.com/Extended-Battery-Hyperion-Compatible-International/dp/B00NLJAEJO
And a different back plate which looks to be better for grip and maybe a little protection .. Is a Tpu case made for this battery style I believe http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00PIBNMEM/ref=pd_aw_sims_3?pi=AC_SY230_QL60
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Well I'm recently looking for reviews for this battery cover too. I'm very curious about the thickness of it since it seems the company did select a good angle to kind of make up a illusion of a slim design. And no case for the phone that is having this cover on, that's another problem
True. I'm curious about the same things .....
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I ordered mine yesterday from Hyperion website for $24.99 (free shipping, no tax; $4.99 on Amazon). When I get it I will upload some pictures. Stock battery was good in G2, but G3 display is the biggest hog for me.
Received a battery today. I uploaded 3 pics just to show it to the public.
I also measured weight of the phone:
+ without battery: 114g
+ with OEM: 162g
+ with Hyperion: 208g
Now I'm going to measure battery life for a few next days.
I put 2 dimes and 1 nickel to show an extra thickness. Check at home
I'm a heavy user and after one day I can say that this battery is outstanding. Normally I had to charge my phone at least once during the day. With Hyperion I used only 1/3 of juice. It compensate an extra bulk
I don't use NFC, so lack of it is not a problem for me.
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Do they have an extended battery case like they usually do.
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Sweet review, I bought mine a few days ago can't wait to try it when it gets here
I don't really mind how thick or heavy my phone is as long as it's not ridiculous (like 5 pounds or an inch thick or more) so I got the zerolemon battery. I can't imagine this really saves THAT much space. But then again, with double the stock capacity, it should be useful in either case.
Can you put pictures of it on the phone?
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So no reviews after few days of use? I see that this one is currently unavailable. Phone doesn't look that big with this cover.
Anyone else tried this battery?
They have interesting cases but butteries are out of stock even at they website:
http://www.hyperionea.com/product-category/lg/g3/
EmptySD said:
So no reviews after few days of use? I see that this one is currently unavailable. Phone doesn't look that big with this cover.
Anyone else tried this battery?
They have interesting cases but butteries are out of stock even at they website:
http://www.hyperionea.com/product-category/lg/g3/
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This battery is awesome for its price. Extra bulk is not a problem.
Bluetooth on, Wi-Fi off. In my case cell signal is battery hog.
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EmptySD said:
So no reviews after few days of use? I see that this one is currently unavailable. Phone doesn't look that big with this cover.
Anyone else tried this battery?
They have interesting cases but butteries are out of stock even at they website:
I m from Germany and since hyperion don't ship to Germany i was looking for a alternative.
There are lot of companies that have the exact same battery whit cover. Just other brand.
In Germany there is for example "Akku King" or a no name company named "vbh".
I got the vbh battery because the one from "Akku king" was not in Stock.
The battery looks exactly like the hyperion. So far battery life is awesome!!! After 6 hours standby and approximately 3h screen time and some telefon calls i still got 72%.
Also the new cover and battery give you more grip. The phone doesn't tend to slip like whit the Orginal battery and back cover. I will add pictures from the phone with the backcover installed later.
You can order for example this one from Amazon com
LOPURS Back Cover and Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery Replacement
Or this one
7500mAh Extended Battery For LG G3 D855 D850 - Black by IDS
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Hit thanks if I help you find a new awesome battery I'll be doing a review for mugen soon
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Also that 7500mah battery I have bought from them before with my old note i717 and it didn't seem to last as long as it should ... I believe they aren't real 7500mah batteries .. Just my opinion... if you are going to buy a extended battery to should spend the money for the good ones :thumbup::beer:
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Yes you are right i also doubt that the battery had 7500mAh but 6000mAh for sure. Because it looks exactly the same like the other 6000mAh batteryd. The mugen is interesting but there is no silicon or tpu case for them available. Whit the 6000mAh battery you can at least mount a bumper for screen and edges protection.
But i m eager to read you're review on the mugen battery.
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Yes you are right i also doubt that the battery had 7500mAh but 6000mAh for sure. Because it looks exactly the same like the other 6000mAh batteryd. The mugen is interesting but there is no silicon or tpu case for them available. Whit the 6000mAh battery you can at least mount a bumper for screen and edges protection.
But i m eager to read you're review on the mugen battery.
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Nice I didn't think you could pull off putting anything on the Hyperion.. Impressive.... Yeah either me or one of the other guys who got sent a free mugen in that other thread will do a review .. I've already owned a mugen before and it was absolutely amazing on my old galaxy mega ...Cheerz :thumbup::beer:
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czaplin said:
This battery is awesome for its price. Extra bulk is not a problem.
Bluetooth on, Wi-Fi off. In my case cell signal is battery hog.
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Can you please take some pictures of the phone from different angles?
Tunisian dude said:
They have interesting cases but butteries are out of stock even at they website:
I m from Germany and since hyperion don't ship to Germany i was looking for a alternative.
There are lot of companies that have the exact same battery whit cover. Just other brand.
In Germany there is for example "Akku King" or a no name company named "vbh".
I got the vbh battery because the one from "Akku king" was not in Stock.
The battery looks exactly like the hyperion. So far battery life is awesome!!! After 6 hours standby and approximately 3h screen time and some telefon calls i still got 72%.
Also the new cover and battery give you more grip. The phone doesn't tend to slip like whit the Orginal battery and back cover. I will add pictures from the phone with the backcover installed later.
You can order for example this one from Amazon com
LOPURS Back Cover and Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery Replacement
Or this one
7500mAh Extended Battery For LG G3 D855 D850 - Black by IDS
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Yes, i saw that everywhere are out of stock. I checked they website many times and without luck. Any ide where can be found? And whats the price?
Or do you have any link so i can check?
shayneflashindaily said:
Hit thanks if I help you find a new awesome battery I'll be doing a review for mugen soon
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Didn't helped for now but That review that you need to do will help for sure. Just be sure that there are enough images, i really care how does my phone look.
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Can you please take some pictures of the phone from different angles?
Yes, i saw that everywhere are out of stock. I checked they website many times and without luck. Any ide where can be found? And whats the price?
Or do you have any link so i can check?
Didn't helped for now but That review that you need to do will help for sure. Just be sure that there are enough images, i really care how does my phone look.
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Sorry I didn't help you this time but if esimon doesn't do a review of the mugen I will.. But I think him and another guy has that under control. I will be doing one for other sites hopefully. Also I had a conversation with mugen about how the att d850 version uses PMA technology to wirelessly charge so we will see what happens .... Thanks homie for your input
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Also you can def expect to have ATLEAST double width of device
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czaplin said:
Received a battery today. I uploaded 3 pics just to show it to the public.
I also measured weight of the phone:
+ without battery: 114g
+ with OEM: 162g
+ with Hyperion: 208g
Now I'm going to measure battery life for a few next days.
I put 2 dimes and 1 nickel to show an extra thickness. Check at home
I'm a heavy user and after one day I can say that this battery is outstanding. Normally I had to charge my phone at least once during the day. With Hyperion I used only 1/3 of juice. It compensate an extra bulk
I don't use NFC, so lack of it is not a problem for me.
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Hello I bought Zero lemon but can't use it, its TOOOO big, very uncomfortable, so I don't use it.
How is that battery for daily use, is that confortable?
Thank you!