Is my understanding that a phone with bootloader unlocked can have any rom installed (i may be wrong). If that would be the case can i install a verizon rom on my unlocked s-off M8 and be able to use it on verizon?
Verizon runs on a CDMA network. AT&T is GSM. Wont work. Wont work for Sprint either for the exact same reason. You can however move it to T-mobile after getting unlocked.
"Is my understanding that a phone with bootloader unlocked can have any rom installed (i may be wrong). If that would be the case can i install a verizon rom on my unlocked s-off M8 and be able to use it on verizon?"
FernandoR211 said:
Verizon
runs on a CDMA network. AT&T is GSM. Wont work. Wont work for Sprint either for the exact same reason. You can however move it to T-mobile after getting unlocked.
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Also - your statement that a phone with an unlocked bootloader can run ANY ROM isn't quite accurate. The ROM must be made for the device itself - model and type (GSM, CDMA, etc.).
DanGeorges said:
"Is my understanding that a phone with bootloader unlocked can have any rom installed (i may be wrong). If that would be the case can i install a verizon rom on my unlocked s-off M8 and be able to use it on verizon?"
Also - your statement that a phone with an unlocked bootloader can run ANY ROM isn't quite accurate. The ROM must be made for the device itself - model and type (GSM, CDMA, etc.).
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I should have clarified. I meant carrier unlocked not a unlocked bootloader.
Thanks guys that explains everything.
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Ok first off I want to thank everyone for all the great info, I have been able to root my US Cellular motorola electrify but I recently realized that it did not work like my droid X (Verizon) when I Auto rooted it and flashed Liberty Rom for it.I tried flashing cm9 ROM several times and bricked my (electrify) phone each time but luckily I was able to figure out how to sbf from rsd from team us cellular. I realized I need to unlock bootloader (pudding) my electrify which is running android 2.3.5. I have tried everything in this world to unlock it and I cannot seem to get it. I have tried with RSD 5.6, 5.5, 5.4.4 5.3 and I also tried with different sbf files from here on XDA. none go through and on my phone I always recieve an error. I know everyone says its ok its suppose to be like that, well I follow instructions and go to cmd and do fastboot and it says infooem unlock is not implimented okay? [0.002s], there is only one thing I have not tried and I cannot seem to find the large pudding_stock_unlock.sbf ANYWHERE! I believe it is 403mb. I have searched for hours for it using everything I can and I still get to the 1mb file which does nothing for me. I even tried using 235pudding.sbf but still nothing. I need someones help please. sorry i posted here but Devs wont let a "noob" post in development section. I really really want ICS cm9 beta on my phone. please help
As far as im aware if your on 2.3.5 your SOL for unlocking.. Unless someone pretty recently has found a new exploit for it that I haven't seen. And this IS the proper place to post questions like this, the Development Section is for Roms/Kernels and the such. Basically big dev things, not questions about how to do things.
No unlock solution for 2.3.5.
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O feel your pain. O switched recently and I came from Samsung. With the new electrifies on 2.3.5 the boot loader is locked. We are stuck till the next update. Sucks, but its a reality for us
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Sorry for this noob question, but I am a noob, so i'm allowed ,
Is it the same as unlocking a GSM phone? Will unlocking the CDMA portion of the electrify allow me to use the phone on other CDMA networks worldwide (like unlocked GSM phones)?
If that is not why we are unlocking, why are we unlocking the electrify? What benefits does it have to the intermediate-advanced user?
on side note (may require another thread); I have rooted my electrify. How do I get rid of the US Cellular splash (boot up) screen? or is that why I need to unlock the phone?
thanks in advance,
CTB
caseythebeagle said:
Sorry for this noob question, but I am a noob, so i'm allowed ,
Is it the same as unlocking a GSM phone? Will unlocking the CDMA portion of the electrify allow me to use the phone on other CDMA networks worldwide (like unlocked GSM phones)?
If that is not why we are unlocking, why are we unlocking the electrify? What benefits does it have to the intermediate-advanced user?
on side note (may require another thread); I have rooted my electrify. How do I get rid of the US Cellular splash (boot up) screen? or is that why I need to unlock the phone?
thanks in advance,
CTB
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You've got your unlocking confused. They're talking about unlocking the bootloader here, the Photon and Electrify are not SIM locked (but are restricted from working on North American GSM networks with compatible frequencies, for example, AT&T). The CDMA radios will be carrier locked to Sprint or US Cellular for the Photon and Electrify respectively, those doesn't get 'unlocked' per se - it's possible to flash CDMA phones to different carriers, but it isn't easy.
Bootloader locking is completely different, it's a sort of failsafe that checks the kernel and/or ROM for a certain signature before it'll boot the device. Locked bootloader means no custom kernels, which in turn means certain ROMs or distributions like Cyanogenmod will not function properly as they require (or simply benefit greatly from) certain elements of custom kernels.
If you want to change the bootscreen, just root your phone and replace bootanimation.zip from /system/media.
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Well can someone demonstrate the process on how these things are made so i can unlock mine myself ill figure it out
caseythebeagle said:
Sorry for this noob question, but I am a noob, so i'm allowed ,
Is it the same as unlocking a GSM phone? Will unlocking the CDMA portion of the electrify allow me to use the phone on other CDMA networks worldwide (like unlocked GSM phones)?
If that is not why we are unlocking, why are we unlocking the electrify? What benefits does it have to the intermediate-advanced user?
on side note (may require another thread); I have rooted my electrify. How do I get rid of the US Cellular splash (boot up) screen? or is that why I need to unlock the phone?
thanks in advance,
CTB
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This unlocked means for bootloader unlocked, not CDMA unlock.
Photon can use other CDMA other than sprint, you just must know MSL/SPC.
I don't know about electrify, is it same like photon for inject it with other cdma operator.
I use my photon using cdma in asia, so it not sprint for sure.
Hey guys!
I have some questions about this phone:
-If the GSM comes factory locked for other countries, can it be unlocked?
-Do Photon roms work on the electrify? (unlocked bootloader)
-Do all Photons/electrifies are Gsm built? I have an ebay seller saying electrify is not a GSM phone...
I'm planning on buying a unlocked bootloader photon/electrify, or one with 2.34 so I can unlock it myself!
Regards
brunomcf said:
Hey guys!
I have some questions about this phone:
-If the GSM comes factory locked for other countries, can it be unlocked?
-Do Photon roms work on the electrify? (unlocked bootloader)
-Do all Photons/electrifies are Gsm built? I have an ebay seller saying electrify is not a GSM phone...
I'm planning on buying a unlocked bootloader photon/electrify, or one with 2.34 so I can unlock it myself!
Regards
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gsm is not locked for any country outside of the US.
the electrify and the photon are the same phone (minus 4g) so of course the roms work.
it is a gsm phone. but it won't work on US networks. (unless you flash a new radio to an unlocked device, if you're a n00b and never have done this before, it's not recommended unless you don't care about messing up the phone)
also the electrify cannot be unlocked for GSM use in the US. photon can though.
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the electrify and the photon are the same phone (minus 4g) so of course the roms work.
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About the lack of 4G on the electrify, is that a hardware or software limitation?
thx
brunomcf said:
Hey guys!
I have some questions about this phone:
-If the GSM comes factory locked for other countries, can it be unlocked?
-Do Photon roms work on the electrify? (unlocked bootloader)
-Do all Photons/electrifies are Gsm built? I have an ebay seller saying electrify is not a GSM phone...
I'm planning on buying a unlocked bootloader photon/electrify, or one with 2.34 so I can unlock it myself!
Regards
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If you want to unlock you bootloader and go with the Photon, make sure it has Android 2.3.4 on it. I just bought one used and it came with 2.3.5 which cannot be unlocked apparently.
InsanePostman said:
If you want to unlock you bootloader and go with the Photon, make sure it has Android 2.3.4 on it. I just bought one used and it came with 2.3.5 which cannot be unlocked apparently.
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Thanks for your comment!
Unfortunatelly I did buy one with a locked bootloader on ebay.
Will sell the one I have right now and buy another mopho with unlocked bootloader.
Or maybe just get another phone!
Now I just wounder if with a specific radio, we can get 4G on the electrify.
Hey I've never had a sim unlock device, my friend has a verizon s4 unlocked for tmobile she is still running on either Gingerbread or something that's very old lbs. I was wondering if I root and flash an updated rom with no bloat will it still work on tmobile? also can i flash tmobile roms or only verizon?
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Hey I've never had a sim unlock device, my friend has a verizon s4 unlocked for tmobile she is still running on either Gingerbread or something that's very old lbs. I was wondering if I root and flash an updated rom with no bloat will it still work on tmobile? also can i flash tmobile roms or only verizon?
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Verizon phones typically have unlockable bootloaders.
If you have the MDK build you can unlock the bootloader, flash custom recoveries, roms, etc. root and such. You would need to become familiar with using Odin. From your post it would seem you are confusing sim unlock with bootloader unlock. Sim unlocked merely means you can use the phone with any service providers. Provided the radios are compatible.
If the build is other than MDK you may be able to use Safestrap to load custom roms.
All tricky. Do a lot of research first.
All galaxy phones s3 s4 s5 s6 etc are world unlocked you can put a any Sim card in it and it will switch to global network your carriers will not tell you this information
I'm pretty sure the answer is no but does ANYONE know if I can root my SM-N981U? I did get the recent updates automatically and I'm currently running UI v 3.1, bootloader v 2 and android 11. If its NOT possible does anyone know if anyone's working on it? Any help would be AWESOME!! I also have no idea how to turn the bootloader off if rooting is possible so help there would be nice. Thanks in advance!
Your model number ends with "U" which indicates that it's a U.S. variant
U.S. variants always get their bootloader hard locked and can't be unlocked via regular means. Root requires that you unlock your bootloader.
There was a paid service that offered to unlock U.S. variant bootloader here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sampwnd-usa-model-bl-unlock-info-u-u1-w.4201689/
But I'd ask first if I was you. Other than that, I don't think you'll be able to root.
ShaDisNX255 said:
Your model number ends with "U" which indicates that it's a U.S. variant
U.S. variants always get their bootloader hard locked and can't be unlocked via regular means. Root requires that you unlock your bootloader.
There was a paid service that offered to unlock U.S. variant bootloader here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sampwnd-usa-model-bl-unlock-info-u-u1-w.4201689/
But I'd ask first if I was you. Other than that, I don't think you'll be able to root.
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Service is still going but his is updated to far to do.
I currently have both the T-Mobile version and I purchased an unlocked version from BestBuy.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/oneplus-nord-n200-5g-blue-quantum-64gb-unlocked-blue-quantum/6468089.p?skuId=6468089
Are there physical differences to these two phones or are they just running different software?
EDIT I looks like its not possible to unlock the bootloader of the T-Mobile version just yet and I have been doing some searching and it looks like the unlocked version is closer to being unlocked. If anyone can confirm a way to bootloader unlock either I would appreciate it.
My end goal here is to get access to Unlocked/Uncapped tethering without having to use a 3rdparty app or companion app. The ability to flash custom ROMs and root access. But also the ability to flash back to a 100% stock rom.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
EDIT I see now you can get the bootloader unlocked on both version by sending a token to Oneplus and waiting 7 days.
xVoidx said:
Are there physical differences to these two phones or are they just running different software?
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The only physical difference is that the T-Mobile version has the IMEI engraved onto the back of the phone while the unlocked variant does not and the original boxes are slightly different.
Both phones run different software. It is possible to flash the unlocked ROM to the T-Mobile version of the phone after unlocking the bootloader, but that breaks OTA.
xVoidx said:
I currently have both the T-Mobile version and I purchased an unlocked version from BestBuy.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/oneplus-nord-n200-5g-blue-quantum-64gb-unlocked-blue-quantum/6468089.p?skuId=6468089
Are there physical differences to these two phones or are they just running different software?
EDIT I looks like its not possible to unlock the bootloader of the T-Mobile version just yet and I have been doing some searching and it looks like the unlocked version is closer to being unlocked. If anyone can confirm a way to bootloader unlock either I would appreciate it.
My end goal here is to get access to Unlocked/Uncapped tethering without having to use a 3rdparty app or companion app. The ability to flash custom ROMs and root access. But also the ability to flash back to a 100% stock rom.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
EDIT I see now you can get the bootloader unlocked on both version by sending a token to Oneplus and waiting 7 days.
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You may find this useful with the T-Mobile variant: CLICK HERE
All the info you need to get your bootloader unlocked for the T-Mobile variant.
There's even a single adb command that will ungrey the OEM unlock option in the developer settings without a SIM unlock (you'll still need the unlock token from OP though):
The Quest for a Bootloader Unlock (partial guide, T-Mobile variant, may work for MetroPCS/Metro variant)
OK, this process has been hell, but I'm gonna try and consolidate everything I've worked out so far in one place. This all applies only to the T-Mobile variant (ie. it comes preloaded with all the T-Mobile bloatware) of the N200 on the T-Mobile...
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does unlocked version has dual sim capability and dual sim tray??
I'm trying to do the same thing with the N200 for a hostpot @xVoidx . I'm curious if you succeeded, and what ROM did you end up using to do it?
I have this phone fully bootloader unlocked. can someone direct me to a tmobile variant rom? or something thatll change it from tmobile to unlocked?
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I have this phone fully bootloader unlocked. can someone direct me to a tmobile variant rom? or something thatll change it from tmobile to unlocked?
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Successful conversion of N200 5G from T-Mo to OEM without MSM tool! (Credit to Summersofar)
Hey there. i'm a new XDA Member myself. i've been mostly stalking these forums for the N200 Ever since people started the root phase and twrp projects for codename HOLI. but i'm here to convert @summersofar's guide in order to make it more...
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