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I was thinking, for AOSP ICS roms, either an apk could be created, or flashed into roms, that repurposes the menu button as the task switcher button, like on the Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Since the menu "button" is essentially in the app itself, the menu capacitive button becomes superfluous. Also, I've never had a phone or rom where holding down the home button acts as quick as just pressing the TS button on the Nexus Prime.
So, instead of the following buttons:
Home/Menu/Back/Search
We would have:
Home/Task Switcher/Back/Search
I like the idea of making it an app, as some would want to leave the buttons the way they are, whereas others might think this is a good idea. I hope the Cyanogen considers this, and puts this in their "Cyanogen Settings" section.
Here are a couple of threads that talk about the same thing, albiet in different phone forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347998
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315075
Maybe you could use the bottons as quick launch icons. Allow the user to pick apps that the buttons would launch.
i think thats a great idea. i felt the same way when i read the features of ics
it doesnt seem impossible. cm7 already has the option to set program shortcuts for long pressing the the menu or home buttons, etc
Why the menu Button why not the usual home button. Instead of replacing the menu function why not replace the small icons with the ICS running apps manager.
Home & Task Manager/Menu/Back/Search
scientist343 said:
Maybe you could use the bottons as quick launch icons. Allow the user to pick apps that the buttons would launch.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Instead of having my 4 most used apps on the bottom of my home screen (Handcent, Facebook, gmail, market) that would be pretty sick to have the captivate button as quick launch buttons for those apps.
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I like the favorite apps at the bottom, id keep that, and even the home and menu and search the way they are, but id want my back button to bring up the multitasker menu when longpressing
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I would say the search button. I never use it and ICS has a dedicated search bar. But yes I agree, now with ICS my next phone will have on screen controls. It looks so nice!
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Personally, I think I'd rather have the screen real estate without the buttons moved to the screen, especially since we have the buttons anyway. That said, I'd be interested to see what could be done with a gesture area down there. Just so long as the on screen buttons are an option that can be turned off returning the capacitive button function.
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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^his larger, bold text, has hurt my feelings and trampled on my dreams. I kid, I kid. I like the hardware buttons anyway, the onscreen buttons for nexus ics would take up more room anyway. I got a taste of that using the ics launcher on the market.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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Did you read the thread? This isn't about "on-screen" buttons. It is about changing the purpose of the existing capacitive buttons to somewhat mirror the functionality of the on-screen buttons on the Galaxy Nexus.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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Stick with singing Mr. Bieber, trying to sound smart isn't your thing
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Is their anyway to remove the 3 sony buttons that are in the middle of the home screen?
Could you please clarify: Which Sony buttons? Do you mean the Mini Apps at the bottom of the screen? Or do you have some shortcuts in the middle of the screen? What happens when you long-press them?
The "Back, Home and Recent Apps buttons" yes you can if you have a rooted tab, you can try searching Google Play for: Tags: Honeybar, Remove Honeybar, there is one app that can do this.
No you can't those are system apps, you could try it with a rooted devices but i can assure you this can give you major problems, but you can also try to block those apps except the ? app and 2 other apps ( forgotten which names ) hhmmppf,, but these 3 are links, if you block one of these apps, the other two will be blocked to so i always use sony webpage urls from the app drawer, so i can't remove the other two , this is the safest way
falcon26 said:
Is their anyway to remove the 3 sony buttons that are in the middle of the home screen?
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As mentioned before, if you are talking about the Back, Home and Recent Apps buttons, then you probably shouldn't. They are important parts of the Android OS and navigation is difficult without them.
try kill or rename /system/app/SystemUI.apk.
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try kill or rename /system/app/SystemUI.apk.
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POssibly not a great idea as SystemUI is a very important framework file and can sometimes lead to bootloops if its missing or damaged. Just my experience.
Yeah. Terrible idea. Deleting or renaming that file will knacker your tablet.
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I think he means the ir buttons and windowed app button.
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I think he means the ir buttons and windowed app button.
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Ah right. Don't have ICS on my Tablet yet so I'm not sure about them. However, if previous software has been any indication, there would not be any way to remove those buttons without some serious ROM modification, and a few framework changes, all of which would be quite complex on a device as locked down as the S.
I have got rid of the 3 dot menu bar which is easy(zip file posted). But trying to remap recent apps was a fail. When I try to remap recent to menu it would affect home button not working so in the zip is the file the original file to remap buttons if you want to take a look and see if anyone here can remap recent to menu. AND eventually me or someone else will figure out long press remaping.
As well I figured out using the GMD Gestures app from playstore, you can create your own gesture and set it to recent apps if you want.
FYI for the 3 dot menu bar removal it requires you to delete the build.prop via recovery file manager than flash. For some reason it wont replace the file. So delete than flash and same with the button remap file in the zip.
THE BUTTON REMAP IS JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LOOK AT THE FILE TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIX.
THE NO MENU FILE IS A FLASHABLE TO GET RID OF MENU BAR.
well to fix the files not being overwritten via the flashable i changed your updater-script to /dev/block/mmcblk0p32 vs /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 but also didn't have any luck on the mod working either..the first time it made my recents button basically do nothing my home button seem to just select things and then backed as usual.. and then i edited the .kl file thinking maybe since you had things things right next to eachother and not on each line it caused a error i just had the menu (3 dots) issue disappear but the recents key worked as usual.. maybe just user error.
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well to fix the files not being overwritten via the flashable i changed your updater-script to /dev/block/mmcblk0p32 vs /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 but also didn't have any luck on the mod working either..the first time it made my recents button basically do nothing my home button seem to just select things and then backed as usual.. and then i edited the .kl file thinking maybe since you had things things right next to eachother and not on each line it caused a error i just had the menu (3 dots) issue disappear but the recents key worked as usual.. maybe just user error.
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So re-mapping DOES work if you edit the .kl file and fix the typo?
Argumentation said:
So re-mapping DOES work if you edit the .kl file and fix the typo?
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no the remapping didn't work once i fixed the typo.. but it did remove the menu from the apps that show it on the bottom of the screen so it half worked..
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no the remapping didn't work once i fixed the typo.. but it did remove the menu from the apps that show it on the bottom of the screen so it half worked..
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Ah, ok. :good: Also, did it break multitasking?
You might want to check with runandhide about long press remapping:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681034
He got this working on the evo lte by changing this code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26734996&postcount=3
I agree with you that the recent apps button should be menu on tap and recent apps on long press.
str8upx said:
You might want to check with runandhide about long press remapping: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681034
He got this working on the evo lte.
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I will pm him and see if he can help with long press.
He fixed long press on home but that is already google now which I like. I'm asking him about long press on recent key.
Actually the modified build.prop is what gets rid of 3 dot menu bar.
What's the reasoning behind making the recent apps button do menu upon tap and actually show recent apps upon long press? That seems logically backwards to me.
Maybe its just because I use the recent apps button more than any other, but it seems like it should be like it is stock and then upon long press show the menu. Isn't that how HTC did it officially on their update to the One?
Obviously its a matter of personal preference - glad to see someone working on this (thank you!) because that bar is driving me nuts haha.
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What's the reasoning behind making the recent apps button do menu upon tap and actually show recent apps upon long press? That seems logically backwards to me.
Maybe its just because I use the recent apps button more than any other, but it seems like it should be like it is stock and then upon long press show the menu. Isn't that how HTC did it officially on their update to the One?
Obviously its a matter of personal preference - glad to see someone working on this (thank you!) because that bar is driving me nuts haha.
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Yeah I like it more that way too
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+1, I like it that way too.
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So if I flash this MOD ... will this just remove the annoying 3 dot menu on the bottom of my phone that comes up on all the screens/apps that I use.
Or am I going to lose the functionality of pressing recent apps, home, back?
whats this MOD do, as is..?
Thank you! I can't thank you enough!
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So if I flash this MOD ... will this just remove the annoying 3 dot menu on the bottom of my phone that comes up on all the screens/apps that I use.
Or am I going to lose the functionality of pressing recent apps, home, back?
whats this MOD do, as is..?
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Well since my zip file does not replace files then all you do is delete build.prop via recovery file manager and flash. It won't mess with capacitive buttons unless you deleted that file too but don't so only 3 dots will go away.
thenickisme said:
What's the reasoning behind making the recent apps button do menu upon tap and actually show recent apps upon long press? That seems logically backwards to me.
Maybe its just because I use the recent apps button more than any other, but it seems like it should be like it is stock and then upon long press show the menu. Isn't that how HTC did it officially on their update to the One?
Obviously its a matter of personal preference - glad to see someone working on this (thank you!) because that bar is driving me nuts haha.
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Probably because you have had to long press for recent apps since android cupcake. Its natural.
So if I am following this thread correctly, this WILL completely remove the 3 dotted menu, HOWEVER, we have NO access to getting in to an app menu until the recent button can be remapped. Correct?
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So if I am following this thread correctly, this WILL completely remove the 3 dotted menu, HOWEVER, we have NO access to getting in to an app menu until the recent button can be remapped. Correct?
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yes or you can download GMD Gestures app from play store and set a gesture to menu. Thats what I do.
So like mentioned above, the 3 dot menu will be gone and capacitive buttons will work as normal?
and use the GMD gesture app to get into menus of applications?
can we revert this process if something happens. like replace the files it removes.
obviously in a ZIP bc we cant push them with root explorer yet
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Probably because you have had to long press for recent apps since android cupcake. Its natural.
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But that was a long press of the home button correct? A lone button dedicated to recent apps functionality wasn't introduced until ICS. Considering the vast majority of general users(not us XDA types), I would argue that most people had never heard of the recent apps feature until el Goog stuffed it down everyone's throat when they shifted into the new 3 button system. I feel like that has become key to the operation of Android and considering the changes from 4.1 to 4.2 Google intends to keep it that way and build around it.
I know this is a mod that really isn't for the general public, but I feel like Google is a smart company. Just browse through their dev guidelines and you can see that they take every single detail into account and invest HEAVILY into finding the best way to operate Android. -I don't feel like this design change was a shot in the dark for them.
Of course, this would all be moot if HTC had decided they weren't 'too cool' for on-screens.
Sorry, ill get off my UX soapbox haha
So there is no 3 dot removal yet? Where does it place it to?
Not an iPhone.....
luke1333 said:
So there is no 3 dot removal yet? Where does it place it to?
Not an iPhone.....
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There is. The mod I posted removes 3 dot but you need to delete build.prop via recovery file manager before flashing because it will flash a modified build.prop.
Also using GMD Gesture app for menu.
I take no responsibility for you breaking or causing issues on your tablet. Do this at your own risk!
Disable your Galaxy Note 8.0 Capacitive Keys
What you will need:
Root
Root explorer or similar program
and Be Careful
First:
Open your root explorer or similar app
navigate to system>usr>keylayout
Second:
Make backup of sec_touchscreen.kl
Third
This step has been, found to be not needed. Skip to step 4!
Fourth:
Open sec_touchscreen.kl
find line:
key 158 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
and place a # in front of it like:
# key 158 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
then find line:
key 139 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
and place a # in front of it like:
# key 139 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
Save your changes and close the file
reboot your tablet, and you are finished.
Your capacitive buttons will not respond to your fingers, but retain functionality with the s-pen.
ENJOY!
step 3 was not needed for this guide to work!
Hey ual4720, thanks for the great guide,this is the sort of stuff we need to get some development started for our tablet.
That's more of a how-to, a mod means flashing something
will there be custom roms coming?
Thai Damen said:
will there be custom roms coming?
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I woud say yes, considering it's the same specs powering the Galaxy Note 10.1 (at least, i'm betting on this )
I'm actually sort of surprised someone hasn't tried flashing one of the Galaxy Note 10.1 roms on the Note 8 (I'm not recommending this, i'm not a developer. Just surprised no one (big kahuna's) tried this).
I can't wait until someone figures out how to make this a quick option on the drop down menu so we can toggle the keys on and off based on what we're doing
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Just to be clear - this is only suppose to disable the capacitive function of the hardware buttons, not enable the virtual on-screen buttons or anything (the latter was what I was hoping for)? Don't mean to diminish the value of the first mod to appear on this forum - I just don't quite understand the use case for this. Thanks!
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Just to be clear - this is only suppose to disable the capacitive function of the hardware buttons, not enable the virtual on-screen buttons or anything (the latter was what I was hoping for)? Don't mean to diminish the value of the first mod to appear on this forum - I just don't quite understand the use case for this. Thanks!
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I use my tablet in landscape a lot! I found it was hard to hold the tablet with both hands because I kept hitting the Capacitive keys. this is my way of solving that! I thought I would Share it.
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I hope it didn't sound like I was criticizing the patch. I was genuinely interested in how people were using this - we all have our own ways of doing things. For example, the hardware buttons have turned out to be more convenient than I expected for me because I use the tablet in bed a lot, and I find it's easier to touch the buttons if I hold the tablet upside down, so the buttons are at the top. With virtual buttons, they'd just move themselves back to the bottom!
Thanks, working good with LMT launcher.
colhavoc said:
I woud say yes, considering it's the same specs powering the Galaxy Note 10.1 (at least, i'm betting on this )
I'm actually sort of surprised someone hasn't tried flashing one of the Galaxy Note 10.1 roms on the Note 8 (I'm not recommending this, i'm not a developer. Just surprised no one (big kahuna's) tried this).
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Similar specs, but different. If you tried flashing a ROM you'd softbrick your device. There are a number of devs working on ports and I'm sure we will be seeing customs appearing soon in the future.
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Thanks a lot for sharing detail information about the Galaxy Note. This will be helpful for me to developing stuff.
Hello all,
after disabling capacitive keys, install GMD gesture control to get the same through customized swipes.
Now SNote will work without being annoyed by keys at the end of the page
Hi all,
I kinda like the HW buttons and I wished they were real buttons rather than capacitive.
Is there a way to disable them ONLY in certain apps? I would like them to be disabled when I use S notes only.
Also,
the mod mentions "Your capacitive buttons will not respond to your fingers, but retain functionality with the s-pen."
So I can actually still use the buttons using the Spen?
Thanks!
For those who tried this, I wonder what app do you use to simulate the "back" and "menu" button WITHOUT using the Stylus?
I'd love to disable the capacitive keys, but there are times when I need to bring up the menu or go back WITHOUT taking out the Stylus and drawing the gesture.
lanwarrior said:
For those who tried this, I wonder what app do you use to simulate the "back" and "menu" button WITHOUT using the Stylus?
I'd love to disable the capacitive keys, but there are times when I need to bring up the menu or go back WITHOUT taking out the Stylus and drawing the gesture.
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i use apps gesture control. can get it from playstore. the free version is sufficient for daily use unless you want to make custom gesture. go for pro.
andrianarison said:
Hello all,
after disabling capacitive keys, install GMD gesture control to get the same through customized swipes.
Now SNote will work without being annoyed by keys at the end of the page
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Good day. Could you explain "get the same through customized swipes?"
Do you mean it's possible to toggle the editing or renaming of the "sec_touchscreen.kl" file?
Even if you do this, will you need to restart every time?
theraker007 said:
I can't wait until someone figures out how to make this a quick option on the drop down menu so we can toggle the keys on and off based on what we're doing
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I 2nd this.:good:
I'm using the unofficial CM 10.2 for the note and have deactivated both buttons, but they are still glowing. Is there a way to deactivate this too?
kingofcomedy said:
I'm using the unofficial CM 10.2 for the note and have deactivated both buttons, but they are still glowing. Is there a way to deactivate this too?
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Try in the Setting, where you can disable it.
On previous phones including the S5 you could just change the build.prop or use gravity box to add them but every time I try on reboot I get system UI crashing non stop until I undo my changes.
Has anyone gotten them somehow?
What about the side key panel?
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That's in the way and inconvenient. They should have just added pie
Use Xposed and install GravityBox and use Navigation Bar Tweak feature
pcboyy said:
Use Xposed and install GravityBox and use Navigation Bar Tweak feature
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It doesn't work. My post says that It doesn't.
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It doesn't work. My post says that It doesn't.
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Had same issue. Use dynamic navbar on playstore or lmt pie. I went for dynamic navbar it's amazing and can be customised to your absolute liking.
I've installed dynamic Navbar but can't seem to figure out how to make it work like a regular Navbar and not sit on top of items on the screen.
I am using lmt pie...loving it
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Nobody can get regular softkeys without system UI crashing?
nope, seems like there's some piece of code missing, so that every time you activate those softkeys it just bootloops. have tried a number of methods, haven't found one that works. missing that soft home button (
eydryan said:
nope, seems like there's some piece of code missing, so that every time you activate those softkeys it just bootloops. have tried a number of methods, haven't found one that works. missing that soft home button (
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This is a shame. I figured this would be one of the first mods due to the popularity and convenience of on-screen buttons. The bezel on the Note 4 is so small at the bottom that it wouldn't even look like a waste of space to have a navigation bar. The capacitive buttons are so easily pressed due to the small bezel. I don't mind this, but I wish the option for on-screen was included by samsung. I also hate the "back" button on the right side because I'm left-handed and can't reach it with my dominant hand. That should be reversible as well. Is that possible?
I also recommend lmt. The back button is instant.
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but I wish the option for on-screen was included by samsung. I also hate the "back" button on the right side because I'm left-handed and can't reach it with my dominant hand. That should be reversible as well. Is that possible?
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If device is rooted then you can remap back and menu key by editing generic.kl
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dr.ketan said:
If device is rooted then you can remap back and menu key by editing generic.kl
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Did exactly that as soon as I got it. Although I actually prefer back key on right, just find note too wide to reach across, being left handed. Turned off the key light, not to cause confusion, and I guess it took a day to train muscle memory.
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dr.ketan said:
If device is rooted then you can remap back and menu key by editing generic.kl
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Ah, thanks! What would I change to simply disable the Recent and Back keys completely? I have on screen keys now. I still want to keep the home button because I don't accidentally press it.
Actually, I just put a # in front of the line for app_switcher, which worked. What do I change or remove to disable the capacitive Back hardware key? Thanks!
EDIT: figured it out!
To disable the Recent and Back hardware keys (capacitive buttons), edit /system/usr/keylayout/Generic.kl and put a # in front of these 2 lines:
key 158 BACK
key 254 APP_SWITCH
Save and reboot!
whittikins said:
Ah, thanks! What would I change to simply disable the Recent and Back keys completely? I have on screen keys now. I still want to keep the home button because I don't accidentally press it.
Actually, I just put a # in front of the line for app_switcher, which worked. What do I change or remove to disable the capacitive Back hardware key? Thanks!
EDIT: figured it out!
To disable the Recent and Back hardware keys (capacitive buttons), edit /system/usr/keylayout/Generic.kl and put a # in front of these 2 lines:
key 158 BACK
key 254 APP_SWITCH
Save and reboot!
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That's very useful!:good:
marvi0 said:
Had same issue. Use dynamic navbar on playstore or lmt pie. I went for dynamic navbar it's amazing and can be customised to your absolute liking.
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What is this lmt pie?
kopkiwi said:
What is this lmt pie?
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It's an amazing app here in xda developed by a recognized member that adds pie control to your phone
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It's an amazing app here in xda developed by a recognized member that adds pie control to your phone
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The only thing about let and pie control in general is that it auto dissappear. When multiple back key is required, it is a pain.
Which is why I have resorted to using side key panel when I don't want to use capacitive. I edited settings database to add transparency to side panel menu as well as having a hint bar dissappear. I moved it to the comfortable zone for my thumb, and trigger it without fail. It says on till I press outside of the side menu.
It is working great for me. Although I would rather have standard nav bar for purely visual reasons as well as more modding options.
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I too am a lover of a static nav bar on my Galaxy Devices.
I now have a SM-N910P now and am frustrated as heck at not being able to get it functional here, on a rooted stock NK2. I used to run SlimKat 4.4.2 on my SPH-L710 and loved the navbar that they baked into the ROM. SlimLoli is maturing for the Note 4, but it doesn't yet have any S-Pen support baked in. This fact, when coupled with how well Samsung and Sprint have done with TouchWiz on the Note 4 have caused me to hold off on putting a custom ROM on the device.
So, what to do.?. Editing buildprop does indeed cause the looping system UI FC. UDN is an excellent solution barring one issue, and that it is doesn't have a means to dedicate a portion of the display to the nav bar. It just overlays on top of the launcher's/app's UIs. I'd be willing to pay for a solution that fixes this.
Pie controls have never really clicked with me. Not yet being willing to move away from NK2, I find that I am wondering if there is a way to force a portion of the bottom of the screen to be entirely dedicated to a specific app, all of the time. As depicted in this screeny, UDN overlays and it is frustrating as hell.
Anyone have any ideas yet?
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