Before I buy the phone I’d like to know which features will be lost by rooting it and unlocking the boot loader? What can be replaced by other ROMs , Xpose modules… apps……Will xframe modules work if it’s rooted but no boot loader unlocked and what are the limitations?
The main one for me is glove mode so I can use any sharp tipped object with it. And FM radio.
Cheers
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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Hi
you can explain how can i lock the bootloader in Sony's way
thnx
blior32017 said:
Hi
you can explain how can i lock the bootloader in Sony's way
thnx
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you want to relock bootloader?????
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you want to relock bootloader?????
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I have a new phone and now I want to try to install it different Rom But I want to know also how to go back like that the phone came from the factory includes all the features
Is it worth messing with it or is it better to give up?
I have knowledge in this Stuff i have Nexus 5 and all kinds of other But Sony I see is more complicated because there are all these drm files
Perfectdevil said:
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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How to backup drm keys ?
Here's how to backup DRM KEYS before unlocking bootloader : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
And this how you restore drm keys and relock : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFaHi3cCXjY
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Forgive me I’m total newbie, I mean this would be my first smart phone ever, I want to ditch my laptop +dumb phone combo in favor of a smartphone, so very steep learning curve. I only need 4 things, web browsing a lot and typing, radio, Microsoft office, writing notes or a full book with a pencil, and nothing else.
1) If the bootloader is not unlocked or locked back after I root it, will it work with xpose frame and it’s modules?
2) Is there a full list of drm features somewhere so I can decide if it’s worth it in discarding AOSP ROMs. Do I even need these features?
3) Is there a list of Sony’s based ROMs only, so I can compare them to AOSP based ROMs? Or maybe you can name some that run without any issues
4) Will I loose the glove mode if I went with A) Sony’s based custom ROM, B) AOSP based ROM?
Cheers
Perfectdevil said:
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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ua101 said:
Forgive me I’m total newbie, I mean this would be my first smart phone ever, I want to ditch my laptop +dumb phone combo in favor of a smartphone, so very steep learning curve. I only need 4 things, web browsing a lot and typing, radio, Microsoft office, writing notes or a full book with a pencil, and nothing else.
1)If the bootloader is not unlocked or locked back after I root it, will it work with xpose frame and it’s modules?
2)Is there a full list of drm features somewhere so I can decide if it’s worth it in discarding AOSP ROMs. Do I even need these features?
3)Is there a list of Sony’s based ROMs only, so I can compare them to AOSP based ROMs? Or maybe you can name some that run without any issues
4)Will I loose the glove mode if I went with A) Sony’s based custom ROM, B) AOSP based ROM?
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1- exposed framework will work either locked or unlocked bootloader because it needs only root
2- xreality and super vivid image effects, ps4 remote play, bionz image processor but those can be reactivated on unlocked bootloader on stock or custom sony rom using this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
3- the best features rich and smooth butter stable rom is EXISTENZ rom that also be used with locked bootloafer http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m-existenz-ultimate-1-0-5-light-dark-t2835196
4- certainly you will lose glove mod on aosp or cm roms and only available if you use sony stock or custom sony rom
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If the EXISTENZ rom does not need unlocking bootloader does that mean it’s basically the stock sony (original manufacturers) rom with added features and all the bloatware is still there?
Then there are kernels, after reading I’m still confused is that part of the ROM or are these installed separately need bootloader unlocked or not, and if so are there any specific to Z2 that are worth looking at, again keeping the same theme that I need the glove mode feature always working no matter what modifications I will try.
Basically I have full list of things I would want my phone to do in transitioning from a laptop, most people told me these are against android fundamentals plus need additional API programming in each app, but could be achieved more or less with custom Rom, a customizable launcher like Lightning Launcher Extreme + Xpose+ tasker, which means there might be to many conflicts if all these are implemented in one device.
Cheers
P.S. Can I PM you with my full list?
Perfectdevil said:
1- exposed framework will work either locked or unlocked bootloader because it needs only root
2- xreality and super vivid image effects, ps4 remote play, bionz image processor but those can be reactivated on unlocked bootloader on stock or custom sony rom using this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
3- the best features rich and smooth butter stable rom is EXISTENZ rom that also be used with locked bootloafer http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m-existenz-ultimate-1-0-5-light-dark-t2835196
4- certainly you will lose glove mod on aosp or cm roms and only available if you use sony stock or custom sony rom
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ua101 said:
If the EXISTENZ rom does not need unlocking bootloader does that mean it’s basically the stock sony (original manufacturers) rom with added features and all the bloatware is still there?
Then there are kernels, after reading I’m still confused is that part of the ROM or are these installed separately need bootloader unlocked or not, and if so are there any specific to Z2 that are worth looking at, again keeping the same theme that I need the glove mode feature always working no matter what modifications I will try.
Basically I have full list of things I would want my phone to do in transitioning from a laptop, most people told me these are against android fundamentals plus need additional API programming in each app, but could be achieved more or less with custom Rom, a customizable launcher like Lightning Launcher Extreme + Xpose+ tasker, which means there might be to many conflicts if all these are implemented in one device.
Cheers
P.S. Can I PM you with my full list?
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EXIZTENZ rom is a modified original sony based rom which is added features and optimized and bloatware free .works on locked bootloader because it doesn't need to flash custom kernel as stock kernel is enough!!!
As you know unlocking bootloader is for installing custom kernel and aosp or cm roms but stock sony customed rom can run on original kernel!!!
PS : phone will NEVER replace pc or laptop !!! Because you need lAptop to recover or fix your phone if anything goes wrong and most importantly is there's things you can't do on phones
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I realize that, I was talking about the way I work on laptop as far as multitasking, copy/ paste… text highlighting, editing…. compared to a small screen on a smartphone.
Now I’m confused about the installation process of the EXISTENZ rom, if it does not require unlocking boot loader does that mean I can root the phone via Sony’s way and still install the EXISTENZ rom, or do I still need to unlock bootloader then install the EXISTENZ rom then lock the boot loader back? Does that make sense?
Cheers
Perfectdevil said:
EXIZTENZ rom is a modified original sony based rom which is added features and optimized and bloatware free .works on locked bootloader because it doesn't need to flash custom kernel as stock kernel is enough!!!
As you know unlocking bootloader is for installing custom kernel and aosp or cm roms but stock sony customed rom can run on original kernel!!!
PS : phone will NEVER replace pc or laptop !!! Because you need lAptop to recover or fix your phone if anything goes wrong and most importantly is there's things you can't do on phones
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ua101 said:
I realize that, I was talking about the way I work on laptop as far as multitasking, copy/ paste… text highlighting, editing…. compared to a small screen on a smartphone.
Now I’m confused about the installation process of the EXISTENZ rom, if it does not require unlocking boot loader does that mean I can root the phone via Sony’s way and still install the EXISTENZ rom, or do I still need to unlock bootloader then install the EXISTENZ rom then lock the boot loader back? Does that make sense?
Cheers
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No need to unlock bootloader Just root your phone,install recovery and flash rom
It's all in rom thread install instructions are there in first post did even bother to read it
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Now I did read it thanks for your help.
cheers
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No need to unlock bootloader Just root your phone,install recovery and flash rom
It's all in rom thread install instructions are there in first post did even bother to read it
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Another question the pen mode or the ability to use any thin tip pen or pencil on teh screen is that only within Sony’s supplied apps and settings or does it work with third party apps like firefox web browser or any otter browser, Microsoft office or any other office app, some type of third party keyboard and third party notes app….?
Cheers
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Another question the pen mode or the ability to use any thin tip pen or pencil on teh screen is that only within Sony’s supplied apps and settings or does it work with third party apps like firefox web browser or any otter browser, Microsoft office or any other office app, some type of third party keyboard and third party notes app….?
Cheers
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Using a Pen/Pencil or Metal to touch and control the device works regardless of what app you are in. Its just like a extension of your finger.
This also works on custom ROMS like CM.
thanks.
IreshS said:
Using a Pen/Pencil or Metal to touch and control the device works regardless of what app you are in. Its just like a extension of your finger.
This also works on custom ROMS like CM.
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No need to unlock bootloader Just root your phone,install recovery and flash rom
It's all in rom thread install instructions are there in first post did even bother to read it
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I just want to confirm something if you don't mind, If only wanted to root my phone without unlocking bootloader, does that mean that DRM will still be intact and I won't need to backup DRM and reactivate it ??
I miss Viper4android and Adaway so that why I want to root.
MegaMedo said:
I just want to confirm something if you don't mind, If only wanted to root my phone without unlocking bootloader, does that mean that DRM will still be intact and I won't need to backup DRM and reactivate it ??
I miss Viper4android and Adaway so that why I want to root.
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Yes rooting DOES NOT remove the DRM keys or unlock your bootloader.
Unlocking the bootloader will remove your DRM keys and its is something completely different from rooting. There no possible way to "accidentally" unlock your bootloader while rooting.
I suggest you read the forums, good place to start :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930844
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
rooting Z2
Perfectdevil said:
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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hello sir, i'd like to ask : do i lose my drm keys if i root my Z2 ?
really scared
update : oh already asked and answered nvm sorry and thx
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Since large part of us might get their Z2s this week (hopefully including me :silly, I'd like to know what options we have to make our Xperias secure with soon-to-arrive custom ROMs.
From what I managed to find, the most convenient option (at least theoretically) would be to:
- unlock bootloader
- flash custom recovery
- flash custom ROM
- reflash stock recovery to prevent lockscreen bypass and adb access in general
- relock bootloader to prevent flashing custom recovery and regaining adb by potential attacker.
- then if needed, reflash recovery online if rooted, reflash new/updated ROM, reflash stock recovery back
Now, I've read that Xperia Z2 (other Zs probably as well) will softbrick with locked botloader and custom ROM/kernel, rendering this method useless. Am I right?
If yes, what other options do we have?
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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numskull said:
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
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I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
waynekirby said:
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
Garaddon said:
So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
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Well... On newer Xperia's (2012+) you can flash a recovery to the TArecovery partition, so you could remove it I suppose... But if the kernel you are using has a custom recovery baked in (they usually do on Xperia) then you could flash back the stock kernel, if you don't want recovery on stock based ROM. but as far as CM is concerned, you cannot remove recovery.
And yes all CM has recovery baked into Xperia kernels. We'll have official CM support from FXP team as soon as they receive their device too. Good times ahead
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shollywood said:
I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
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Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
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Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
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What gets lost or stops working properly?
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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Not sure, thats why i aint doing nothing to it, apparently theres a folder that contains licence keys, which you will lose when you unlock bootloader. until i know a bit more about it, i aint messing with it
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
Xernoxis said:
You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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What would I need the keys for? Sony sends the code to unlock the bootloader.
Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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That was the one, i knew it was something important. thats why im waiting till there a root without unlocking, i could probably manage without most of it, but i want the bravia engine working and any other screen or audio stuff it affects, altho i was wondering, could you not just redownload the stuff you want and in doing so aquire new keys?? or is it not that simple?
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Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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Mine all seems to still work...odd
shollywood said:
Mine all seems to still work...odd
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This were from what happened on XT, XZ etc... I hope you're right buddy
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i predict that this time next week enough people will have z2's that we'll have all our answers
Hi guys, yesterday I just installed on my xperia z2 .726 LP stock, prerooted and with recovery. And I don't know if its good for me or no. And as the lollipop is getting updated, im thinking maybe i should go to 5.1?
The question is: Is it really worth unlocking my bootloader and going for 5.1 or I should stick with stock and with locked bootloader?
What I lose if i unlock my bootloader?
And if its worth it, can you give me the links to do it the safest way, without losing some things
Unlocking your bootloader is safe as long as your not stupid about it
You will lose your warrenty, and some xperia features spesific for the stock rom ( these are permanent because unlocking your bootloader wipes your TA partition where unique information is kept)
You can backup your TA if your device is rooted
(google will help here)
So Is it really worth unlocking my bootloader and going for 5.1 or I should stick with stock and with locked bootloader?
And maybe, if u kind, can you tell me, what rom, kernel, what do you use?
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So Is it really worth unlocking my bootloader and going for 5.1 or I should stick with stock and with locked bootloader?
And maybe, if u kind, can you tell me, what rom, kernel, what do you use?
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Id rather stay with stock but androPlus kernel
Stock has all the features and the look i need above any commom custom rom
And the custom kernel alows for some aditional customization as well as some patches that alow even more e.g. xposed
(easier to root, recovery is more static you could say)
If you realy dont care about X-Reality, your warrenty and a couple of xperia apps then an unlocked bootloader is for you.
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Id rather stay with stock but androPlus kernel
Stock has all the features and the look i need above any commom custom rom
And the custom kernel alows for some aditional customization as well as some patches that alow even more e.g. xposed
(easier to root, recovery is more static you could say)
If you realy dont care about X-Reality, your warrenty and a couple of xperia apps then an unlocked bootloader is for you.
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Okay, if I do unlock my bootloader, i lose my warranty, xperia apps, x reality, but doesn`t restoring TA keys, gives me back all of it?
Oh and what about camera?
Dendis said:
Okay, if I do unlock my bootloader, i lose my warranty, xperia apps, x reality, but doesn`t restoring TA keys, gives me back all of it?
Oh and what about camera?
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You lose all that but sony cant tell if you restored your TA or not when you did so yes
Camera quality on stock rom is good but on Ub its somewhat lost however the results are more honnest so to someone who is into photography UB is better
On custom roms its about that of stock, CM based usualy varies depending on the scene.
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You lose all that but sony cant tell if you restored your TA or not when you did so yes
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So I can unlock any time I want and I can relock any time I want. And all functions will be lost/restored if bootloader unlocked/relocked ?
Envious_Data said:
Camera quality on stock rom is good but on Ub its somewhat lost however the results are more honnest so to someone who is into photography UB is better
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So, if I unlock, does my camera becomes a lot worse? And if I relock, does my camera go back to normal?
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On custom roms its about that of stock, CM based usualy varies depending on the scene.
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So if I unlock, install androplus and existenz 2.0 Y , will I get much worse camera quality?
Dendis said:
So I can unlock any time I want and I can relock any time I want. And all functions will be lost/restored if bootloader unlocked/relocked ?
So, if I unlock, does my camera becomes a lot worse? And if I relock, does my camera go back to normal?
So if I unlock, install androplus and existenz 2.0 Y , will I get much worse camera quality?
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1. This only applies if you restore your TA if backed up before unlockimg
2. The camera quality doesnt even drop all too much.
Envious_Data said:
1. This only applies if you restore your TA if backed up before unlockimg
2. The camera quality doesnt even drop all too much.
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So, camera goes a lot worse in CM roms?
So, I can easily go for TA backup, unlocking and installing existenz with androplus kernel, or even your kernel, if you release it ? ) (camera is important for me) (I want bigger battery life, now its 2days, with 5hrs of sot)
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So, camera goes a lot worse in CM roms?
So, I can easily go for TA backup, unlocking and installing existenz with androplus kernel, or even your kernel, if you release it ? ) (camera is important for me) (I want bigger battery life, now its 2days, with 5hrs of sot)
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Camera quality isnt lost much on any rom
Atleast from the way i use my camera.
Hi there can anyone help Im not new to rooting and flashing stuff its just my new sony experience came from htc one m8 Im so confused with this dual recovery do I need to root first before flashing this dual recovery? because on most phone just install custom recovery then flash supersu.zip and done you are rooted, I want also some custom rom can anyone help me? im on 5.1.1 d6503
It depends if you care about your warrenty and certain Xperia Spesific features
1. Downgrade, use root tool then use prfCreator to make a pre-rooted flashable zip to upgrade back to 5.1.1
(for recovery use XZdualrecovery for sirius
2. Unlock bootloader and flash recovery and kernel or just kernel with recovery bundled with
Notes:
- Stock based roms dont need a custom kernel (custom kernels require unlocked bootloaders(
- Custom non-stock based roms need a unlocked bootloaders
Envious_Data said:
It depends if you care about your warrenty and certain Xperia Spesific features
1. Downgrade, use root tool then use prfCreator to make a pre-rooted flashable zip to upgrade back to 5.1.1
(for recovery use XZdualrecovery for sirius
2. Unlock bootloader and flash recovery and kernel or just kernel with recovery bundled with
Notes:
- Stock based roms dont need a custom kernel (custom kernels require unlocked bootloaders(
- Custom non-stock based roms need a unlocked bootloaders
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hello thank you so much really appreciate your help, really dont mind the warranty since I bought it 2nd hand and I dont have proof of purchase anyway.... so someone told me if I unlock bootloader some problem occur or some of it function will not work is it true? if not can you help me out with the 2nd option to flash custom reco? dont want to use stock rom much preferred custom roms thanks
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hello thank you so much really appreciate your help, really dont mind the warranty since I bought it 2nd hand and I dont have proof of purchase anyway.... so someone told me if I unlock bootloader some problem occur or some of it function will not work is it true? if not can you help me out with the 2nd option to flash custom reco? dont want to use stock rom much preferred custom roms thanks
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Some functions will stop working but they are minor astetic things
Envious_Data said:
Some functions will stop working but they are minor astetic things
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like what? planing to root this badass tonight, ive downloaded kitkat firmware and thinking what is the best thing to do unlock BL or stay as is
imfuzzyyy said:
like what? planing to root this badass tonight, ive downloaded kitkat firmware and thinking what is the best thing to do unlock BL or stay as is
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It really depends on your use
Example: i benefit from a Unlocked bootloader because i can flash androplus kernel which allows me to tune my phone in such a way to where i can get an extra 2hrs of Screen time
And you lose camera post processing and those display enhancements that make pictures look nice in the album app when enabled as well as some PS3/4 related features
In my opinion the camera looks better without post processing and the X-reality isnt a permanent thing so whats the point of it really
Envious_Data said:
It really depends on your use
Example: i benefit from a Unlocked bootloader because i can flash androplus kernel which allows me to tune my phone in such a way to where i can get an extra 2hrs of Screen time
And you lose camera post processing and those display enhancements that make pictures look nice in the album app when enabled as well as some PS3/4 related features
In my opinion the camera looks better without post processing and the X-reality isnt a permanent thing so whats the point of it really
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really appreciate your help, already root custom rom now didnt unlock my BL maybe in the future ill unlock this badass
Hello
I own a Xperia z5 compact and i switch now to another phone... (xz premium) now i want to sell the xz5c so is it possible to lock bootloader with default ftf ?? without losing DRM keys issues ? or i lock bootloader with an custom kernel... but what happens if the new phone user want to update it ??
i dont want to sell crap so if there is no good option for end user i will notice it with custom kernel .... but i will lose money ....
sorry for my english ^^
You can relock the bootloader using flashtool but you cannot restore DRM keys unless you have a TA backup
[email protected] said:
You can relock the bootloader using flashtool but you cannot restore DRM keys unless you have a TA backup
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i dont have DRM backup is there another solution ?
would another DRM key work ??? like someone could give me one of his backup would they work ? or it is not a good idea ?
fiarfox888 said:
i dont have DRM backup is there another solution ?
would another DRM key work ??? like someone could give me one of his backup would they work ? or it is not a good idea ?
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No that would brick your device.
But: If you relock without DeviceKey probably no one will ever notice that various DRM features dont work any longer. I unlocked all my phones (most of them without DRM backup) and never noticed any problems.
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No that would brick your device.
But: If you relock without DeviceKey probably no one will ever notice that various DRM features dont work any longer. I unlocked all my phones (most of them without DRM backup) and never noticed any problems.
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when i flash my device to .33 i notice that the finger scanner doesnt reconice anything when i flash the kernel too evrything was working fine... idk if it was a phenomen but i cant sell a not full working phone -.-* money -.-*
i think best sultion is flash new ftf the kernel and sell it in that condition -.-* how much i would get for it ? screen and back have no scratches.... just the frame just some marks ... what would be acceptable ?
Wipe the phone and fully reflash it. The fingerprint sensor should work without drm keys.
Dont know how much you can ask for.
fiarfox888 said:
or i lock bootloader with an custom kernel...
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Not possible. Locked bootloader = 100% stock Sony signed firmware only.
Lack of DRM keys arguably doesn't matter that much once it's out of warranty, but some DRM features are noticeable, like low light noise reduction for the camera.
You should make this information clear when you sell.
Hi guys,
are you aware that by following:
[ROOT][Kernel][TWRP] repack of the stock kernel with dm-verity and SONY RIC off
you'll get a repackaged stock kernel that
has potentially root (option)
a recovery TWRP to which you can boot via volume key combination during boot (didn't read about it for Xperia M4 Aqua yet, but on Z5 it works),
dm-verity & Sony RIC DISABLED (additional security which messes with rooting and modifying /system - thus needs to be disabled, also leads to non-booting phone when system is modified)
DRM emulated (restored) so that camera quality is same like before bootloader unlock, picture/image enhancement working (BRAVIA/XREALITY engine)
@madsin has followed the steps and supposedly was successful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69236873&postcount=1338
@AndyPhoenix9879 is your custom kernel using a repackaged stock ramdisk with the drm emulation ? https://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/development/kernel-sky-melon-t3532944
@dani020110 the same question to you: is your custom kernel using a repackaged stock ramdisk with drm emulation ? https://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/development/kernel-foykernel-t3536004
I'm posting this here since I'm not sure yet if I'll unlock bootloader & lose the TA partition data/keys
or I should flash back to Lollipop, root (with locked bootloader), backup the keys, then unlock the bootloaders [for my Z5 that option wasn't available at the time to backup & restore the keys]
zacharias.maladroit said:
I'm posting this here since I'm not sure yet if I'll unlock bootloader & lose the TA partition data/keys
or I should flash back to Lollipop, root (with locked bootloader), backup the keys, then unlock the bootloaders [for my Z5 that option wasn't available at the time to backup & restore the keys]
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What you've just posted is used on both kernels. It works on MM even with stock kernel but the recovery and xposed option doesn't. I haven't tried backing up the keys with MM since there is no root but I've used the second method and it works.
zacharias.maladroit said:
Hi guys,
are you aware that by following:
[ROOT][Kernel][TWRP] repack of the stock kernel with dm-verity and SONY RIC off
you'll get a repackaged stock kernel that
has potentially root (option)
a recovery TWRP to which you can boot via volume key combination during boot (didn't read about it for Xperia M4 Aqua yet, but on Z5 it works),
dm-verity & Sony RIC DISABLED (additional security which messes with rooting and modifying /system - thus needs to be disabled, also leads to non-booting phone when system is modified)
DRM emulated (restored) so that camera quality is same like before bootloader unlock, picture/image enhancement working (BRAVIA/XREALITY engine)
@madsin has followed the steps and supposedly was successful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69236873&postcount=1338
@AndyPhoenix9879 is your custom kernel using a repackaged stock ramdisk with the drm emulation ? https://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/development/kernel-sky-melon-t3532944
@dani020110 the same question to you: is your custom kernel using a repackaged stock ramdisk with drm emulation ? https://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/development/kernel-foykernel-t3536004
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Hi there! It's really nice to see you here!
1. Yeah I'm using that tool to get root access
2. I tried that recovery, but it wasn't working correctly
3. As far as I know, we don't have that kind of security here, we can modify /system flawlessly without using that option
4. I haven't tried that drm restoration yet, because I thought it wouldn't work
Anyway this is the ramdisk I'm using https://github.com/dani020110/destiny_build_tools/commits/master/ramdisk
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zacharias.maladroit said:
I'm posting this here since I'm not sure yet if I'll unlock bootloader & lose the TA partition data/keys
or I should flash back to Lollipop, root (with locked bootloader), backup the keys, then unlock the bootloaders [for my Z5 that option wasn't available at the time to backup & restore the keys]
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When I was at lollipop I did that trick to backup my drm keys, and then unlocked my bootloader
Anyway you can try the universal dirty cow one
@DavidMKD , @dani020110
thanks for the quick and in-depth answers !
@dani020110 thanks for the warm welcome
okay, I'll see how the dirtycow approach works out
sorry, I've used up all "thanks" for today, will give upon next chance
GREAT!! Today I do the same with a kernel from Xperia E5 .
MAREK10747 said:
GREAT!! Today I do the same with a kernel from Xperia E5 .
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Yes, it's awesome that we have those great devs/minds at XDA who empower us,
[much thanks to @tobias.waldvogel ]
otherwise we would lose important features and had to do compromises
when in fact we root and unlock the bootloader to have *more* features in first place !
zacharias.maladroit said:
Yes, it's awesome that we have those great devs/minds at XDA who empower us,
[much thanks to @tobias.waldvogel ]
otherwise we would lose important features and had to do compromises
when in fact we root and unlock the bootloader to have *more* features in first place !
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You are more than welcomed in this long forgotten community
Ehh not working this fix on my kernel , but I'm a first dev modding this phone ^^ .
Now I added few mods to my kernel , and version 8.1 be ready soon
I looking for helpers to create new kernel for Sony Xperia E5 with OC and new governors . I don't know how to use a ubuntu to recompile kernel ...