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Hello
Just purchased a SK17i Xperia Mini Pro Black Version that is locked to 02 (UK network). I am obvously new to all this stuff but do have a basic understanding but here are some questions:
1) I am thinking of waiting until Android 4.0 is Officially released by SE to update my phone (btw, anyone know when the update is coming). Was wondering when I update will I still be able to root my phone?
2) When I root (if I can) I want to install Set CPU to overclock my phone. However I have heard this drains batteries? Is this true and if so how can I make my phone faster?
3) I need to unlock my phone. Can this be done for free after rooting? If not, can someone link me to the cheapest place I can get this unlocked from?
Thanks in advance to anyone that answers
Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
noradoor said:
Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
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Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
subbyhasan said:
Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
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There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
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There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
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Thanks alot, will take a look at that website
What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
Thanks
good thing in the sense? If you don't bother about warranty then you can try custom ROM ics.but the problem is some bugs are not fixed by developers they will take time.main bug is camera not working..i am using ics so just check k? Good luck
Xperian8~ click thanks if it helps...
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What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
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He meant that the Wotanserver network-unlock method might unlock your bootloader (which it does). This bootloader unlock, whilst giving you access to custom ROMs etc, might not behave with official SONY updates (such as ICS) - I'd link you for proof but I'm not allowed to due to my low post count .
Also, Google 'Omnius Unlock'. They will unlock your phone for free over the next few days (Easter promotion). I'm not sure how reputable those guys are though so you'll want to check.
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
subbyhasan said:
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
BudgyN1 said:
If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
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He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
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notoxa said:
Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
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Ah, right. Makes everything at lot clearer thanks
So if I do unlock through the Wotanserver place, my bootloader will be unlocked but I wouldn't be able to get official ICS, but a just as good if not better copy? Is the ROM fully stable as in does everything function fine? I have heard of an ICS ROM which stopped HD recording on Xperias. Does this have any such problem?
Someguyfromhell said:
He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
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Hopefully will but doubt I can update now anyways
Can I just say thank you to every single poster on this thread. You have all been immensely helpful. There are few forums which reply so quickly and as well as many people on here have done so thanks a lot to everyone
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
lord.tomriddle said:
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
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What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
subbyhasan said:
What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
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MY flashtooll aint showing the ftf files..
and you need to unlock bootloader..
got to http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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Thanks for that, do you have a link for me which I can use?
And just generally, can I add that this is the way to get MiniCMSanwich ROM on my XMP:
Root (zerg's software) (not needed but useful so might as well do it then)
Unlock Bootloader (from SE's website or the link which hopefully the above poster/someone else gives me)
Kernel Installation (Flashtool)
Finally, flash the ROM and Gapps using Clockwork Mod Recovery
Thanks
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
Someguyfromhell said:
It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
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Ah, right will probably leave it then
Thanks a lot
As I said its make much easyer
there you go mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560613
I'm surprised this device attracts so few developers. Most devices have several custom roms and kernels to choose between.
I love the device. I had some tough weeks to get use to the size but now I can't imagine having another phone.
It's perfect. I can play with it for hours.
I will send it to some of the core devs in my team when I'm done with it so we'll get official SlimRoms on it.
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
quachhanthanh said:
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
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Odd thread choice for this post.
The answer is to read, read some more, then think about what questions you still have and search for them and read those results.
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Carbon is all u need lol
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After owning this phone for almost a month as my daily driver, I can see why this phone might not be so popular.
Sony does not seem to do as much advertising as Samsung (at least that I can see), and for quite a while this phone was just too expensive. Add to that the fact that this phone for most people is just north of being too big (I came to it after owning the Galaxy note so I am ok with the size), and if you own one of these, you want to use it a lot and even with the stamina mode turned on battery life can be a little short if you turn it on to play with it every 5 min or so.... lol.
On the other hand my S4 build quality feels worse and worse after owning this beautiful thing.
One final thing I can think of is that the stock ROM (at lease 4.3 which I am still using) is not very bloated and really quite nice. I don't feel the need to try to load a AOSP rom as much. Every time I pick-up a touchwiz device I just want to throw up a little.
quachhanthanh said:
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
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KitKat has already been rooted for quite some time! I am using 4.4.2 KitKat and am rooted.
Refer to Jackie's root guide. You will have to download the 4.4.2 FTF rom as well as Jackie's custom kernal in order to root.
Have you unlocked your Xperia Z Ultra bootloader? In order to root you must have your bootloader unlocked. It is very quick and easy to unlock.
Here is the link with instructions on how to root KitKat.
Special thanks goes to Jackie for making this possible so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSeSe8gQOY
kanej2006 said:
KitKat has already been rooted for quite some time! I am using 4.4.2 KitKat and am rooted.
Refer to Jackie's root guide. You will have to download the 4.4.2 FTF rom as well as Jackie's custom kernal in order to root.
Have you unlocked your Xperia Z Ultra bootloader? In order to root you must have your bootloader unlocked. It is very quick and easy to unlock.
Here is the link with instructions on how to root KitKat.
Special thanks goes to Jackie for making this possible so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSeSe8gQOY
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Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
blueether said:
Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
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I haven't unlocked bootloader my ZU yet. And I have backup my TA already. But I dont want to UB my ZU because I want to use my TrackID app. So maybe i should wait until someone can root ZU with non-UB one.
Anyway, thanks two of u.
blueether said:
Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
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Your right. I forgot to mention that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty. Good thing you mentioned it.
quachhanthanh said:
I haven't unlocked bootloader my ZU yet. And I have backup my TA already. But I dont want to UB my ZU because I want to use my TrackID app. So maybe i should wait until someone can root ZU with non-UB one.
Anyway, thanks two of u.
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You can still get root with a locked bootloader, just read some... hint look for threads by [nut], monx and otheres
blueether said:
You can still get root with a locked bootloader, just read some... hint look for threads by [nut], monx and otheres
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Thanks for ur hint, man. After read some thread, I think I can use this way to root my ZU with KitKat: I am on. 136 rooted and LB, I will download KitKat zip of fnf and install it through dual recovery of [nut]. Am I right? Looking forward to your reply.
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quachhanthanh said:
Thanks for ur hint, man. After read some thread, I think I can use this way to root my ZU with KitKat: I am on. 136 rooted and LB, I will download KitKat zip of fnf and install it through dual recovery of [nut]. Am I right? Looking forward to your reply.
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Look for [NUT]'s 290 thread, it has detailed instructions I think, you will still have to downgrade to .532 to gain root first.
Since large part of us might get their Z2s this week (hopefully including me :silly, I'd like to know what options we have to make our Xperias secure with soon-to-arrive custom ROMs.
From what I managed to find, the most convenient option (at least theoretically) would be to:
- unlock bootloader
- flash custom recovery
- flash custom ROM
- reflash stock recovery to prevent lockscreen bypass and adb access in general
- relock bootloader to prevent flashing custom recovery and regaining adb by potential attacker.
- then if needed, reflash recovery online if rooted, reflash new/updated ROM, reflash stock recovery back
Now, I've read that Xperia Z2 (other Zs probably as well) will softbrick with locked botloader and custom ROM/kernel, rendering this method useless. Am I right?
If yes, what other options do we have?
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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numskull said:
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
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I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
waynekirby said:
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
Garaddon said:
So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
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Well... On newer Xperia's (2012+) you can flash a recovery to the TArecovery partition, so you could remove it I suppose... But if the kernel you are using has a custom recovery baked in (they usually do on Xperia) then you could flash back the stock kernel, if you don't want recovery on stock based ROM. but as far as CM is concerned, you cannot remove recovery.
And yes all CM has recovery baked into Xperia kernels. We'll have official CM support from FXP team as soon as they receive their device too. Good times ahead
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shollywood said:
I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
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Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
numskull said:
Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
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What gets lost or stops working properly?
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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Not sure, thats why i aint doing nothing to it, apparently theres a folder that contains licence keys, which you will lose when you unlock bootloader. until i know a bit more about it, i aint messing with it
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
Xernoxis said:
You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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What would I need the keys for? Sony sends the code to unlock the bootloader.
Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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That was the one, i knew it was something important. thats why im waiting till there a root without unlocking, i could probably manage without most of it, but i want the bravia engine working and any other screen or audio stuff it affects, altho i was wondering, could you not just redownload the stuff you want and in doing so aquire new keys?? or is it not that simple?
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Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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Mine all seems to still work...odd
shollywood said:
Mine all seems to still work...odd
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This were from what happened on XT, XZ etc... I hope you're right buddy
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i predict that this time next week enough people will have z2's that we'll have all our answers
Before I buy the phone I’d like to know which features will be lost by rooting it and unlocking the boot loader? What can be replaced by other ROMs , Xpose modules… apps……Will xframe modules work if it’s rooted but no boot loader unlocked and what are the limitations?
The main one for me is glove mode so I can use any sharp tipped object with it. And FM radio.
Cheers
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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Perfectdevil said:
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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Hi
you can explain how can i lock the bootloader in Sony's way
thnx
blior32017 said:
Hi
you can explain how can i lock the bootloader in Sony's way
thnx
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you want to relock bootloader?????
Perfectdevil said:
you want to relock bootloader?????
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I have a new phone and now I want to try to install it different Rom But I want to know also how to go back like that the phone came from the factory includes all the features
Is it worth messing with it or is it better to give up?
I have knowledge in this Stuff i have Nexus 5 and all kinds of other But Sony I see is more complicated because there are all these drm files
Perfectdevil said:
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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How to backup drm keys ?
Here's how to backup DRM KEYS before unlocking bootloader : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
And this how you restore drm keys and relock : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFaHi3cCXjY
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Forgive me I’m total newbie, I mean this would be my first smart phone ever, I want to ditch my laptop +dumb phone combo in favor of a smartphone, so very steep learning curve. I only need 4 things, web browsing a lot and typing, radio, Microsoft office, writing notes or a full book with a pencil, and nothing else.
1) If the bootloader is not unlocked or locked back after I root it, will it work with xpose frame and it’s modules?
2) Is there a full list of drm features somewhere so I can decide if it’s worth it in discarding AOSP ROMs. Do I even need these features?
3) Is there a list of Sony’s based ROMs only, so I can compare them to AOSP based ROMs? Or maybe you can name some that run without any issues
4) Will I loose the glove mode if I went with A) Sony’s based custom ROM, B) AOSP based ROM?
Cheers
Perfectdevil said:
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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ua101 said:
Forgive me I’m total newbie, I mean this would be my first smart phone ever, I want to ditch my laptop +dumb phone combo in favor of a smartphone, so very steep learning curve. I only need 4 things, web browsing a lot and typing, radio, Microsoft office, writing notes or a full book with a pencil, and nothing else.
1)If the bootloader is not unlocked or locked back after I root it, will it work with xpose frame and it’s modules?
2)Is there a full list of drm features somewhere so I can decide if it’s worth it in discarding AOSP ROMs. Do I even need these features?
3)Is there a list of Sony’s based ROMs only, so I can compare them to AOSP based ROMs? Or maybe you can name some that run without any issues
4)Will I loose the glove mode if I went with A) Sony’s based custom ROM, B) AOSP based ROM?
Cheers
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1- exposed framework will work either locked or unlocked bootloader because it needs only root
2- xreality and super vivid image effects, ps4 remote play, bionz image processor but those can be reactivated on unlocked bootloader on stock or custom sony rom using this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
3- the best features rich and smooth butter stable rom is EXISTENZ rom that also be used with locked bootloafer http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m-existenz-ultimate-1-0-5-light-dark-t2835196
4- certainly you will lose glove mod on aosp or cm roms and only available if you use sony stock or custom sony rom
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If the EXISTENZ rom does not need unlocking bootloader does that mean it’s basically the stock sony (original manufacturers) rom with added features and all the bloatware is still there?
Then there are kernels, after reading I’m still confused is that part of the ROM or are these installed separately need bootloader unlocked or not, and if so are there any specific to Z2 that are worth looking at, again keeping the same theme that I need the glove mode feature always working no matter what modifications I will try.
Basically I have full list of things I would want my phone to do in transitioning from a laptop, most people told me these are against android fundamentals plus need additional API programming in each app, but could be achieved more or less with custom Rom, a customizable launcher like Lightning Launcher Extreme + Xpose+ tasker, which means there might be to many conflicts if all these are implemented in one device.
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P.S. Can I PM you with my full list?
Perfectdevil said:
1- exposed framework will work either locked or unlocked bootloader because it needs only root
2- xreality and super vivid image effects, ps4 remote play, bionz image processor but those can be reactivated on unlocked bootloader on stock or custom sony rom using this mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
3- the best features rich and smooth butter stable rom is EXISTENZ rom that also be used with locked bootloafer http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m-existenz-ultimate-1-0-5-light-dark-t2835196
4- certainly you will lose glove mod on aosp or cm roms and only available if you use sony stock or custom sony rom
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ua101 said:
If the EXISTENZ rom does not need unlocking bootloader does that mean it’s basically the stock sony (original manufacturers) rom with added features and all the bloatware is still there?
Then there are kernels, after reading I’m still confused is that part of the ROM or are these installed separately need bootloader unlocked or not, and if so are there any specific to Z2 that are worth looking at, again keeping the same theme that I need the glove mode feature always working no matter what modifications I will try.
Basically I have full list of things I would want my phone to do in transitioning from a laptop, most people told me these are against android fundamentals plus need additional API programming in each app, but could be achieved more or less with custom Rom, a customizable launcher like Lightning Launcher Extreme + Xpose+ tasker, which means there might be to many conflicts if all these are implemented in one device.
Cheers
P.S. Can I PM you with my full list?
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EXIZTENZ rom is a modified original sony based rom which is added features and optimized and bloatware free .works on locked bootloader because it doesn't need to flash custom kernel as stock kernel is enough!!!
As you know unlocking bootloader is for installing custom kernel and aosp or cm roms but stock sony customed rom can run on original kernel!!!
PS : phone will NEVER replace pc or laptop !!! Because you need lAptop to recover or fix your phone if anything goes wrong and most importantly is there's things you can't do on phones
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I realize that, I was talking about the way I work on laptop as far as multitasking, copy/ paste… text highlighting, editing…. compared to a small screen on a smartphone.
Now I’m confused about the installation process of the EXISTENZ rom, if it does not require unlocking boot loader does that mean I can root the phone via Sony’s way and still install the EXISTENZ rom, or do I still need to unlock bootloader then install the EXISTENZ rom then lock the boot loader back? Does that make sense?
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Perfectdevil said:
EXIZTENZ rom is a modified original sony based rom which is added features and optimized and bloatware free .works on locked bootloader because it doesn't need to flash custom kernel as stock kernel is enough!!!
As you know unlocking bootloader is for installing custom kernel and aosp or cm roms but stock sony customed rom can run on original kernel!!!
PS : phone will NEVER replace pc or laptop !!! Because you need lAptop to recover or fix your phone if anything goes wrong and most importantly is there's things you can't do on phones
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ua101 said:
I realize that, I was talking about the way I work on laptop as far as multitasking, copy/ paste… text highlighting, editing…. compared to a small screen on a smartphone.
Now I’m confused about the installation process of the EXISTENZ rom, if it does not require unlocking boot loader does that mean I can root the phone via Sony’s way and still install the EXISTENZ rom, or do I still need to unlock bootloader then install the EXISTENZ rom then lock the boot loader back? Does that make sense?
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No need to unlock bootloader Just root your phone,install recovery and flash rom
It's all in rom thread install instructions are there in first post did even bother to read it
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Now I did read it thanks for your help.
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Perfectdevil said:
No need to unlock bootloader Just root your phone,install recovery and flash rom
It's all in rom thread install instructions are there in first post did even bother to read it
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Another question the pen mode or the ability to use any thin tip pen or pencil on teh screen is that only within Sony’s supplied apps and settings or does it work with third party apps like firefox web browser or any otter browser, Microsoft office or any other office app, some type of third party keyboard and third party notes app….?
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ua101 said:
Another question the pen mode or the ability to use any thin tip pen or pencil on teh screen is that only within Sony’s supplied apps and settings or does it work with third party apps like firefox web browser or any otter browser, Microsoft office or any other office app, some type of third party keyboard and third party notes app….?
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Using a Pen/Pencil or Metal to touch and control the device works regardless of what app you are in. Its just like a extension of your finger.
This also works on custom ROMS like CM.
thanks.
IreshS said:
Using a Pen/Pencil or Metal to touch and control the device works regardless of what app you are in. Its just like a extension of your finger.
This also works on custom ROMS like CM.
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Perfectdevil said:
No need to unlock bootloader Just root your phone,install recovery and flash rom
It's all in rom thread install instructions are there in first post did even bother to read it
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I just want to confirm something if you don't mind, If only wanted to root my phone without unlocking bootloader, does that mean that DRM will still be intact and I won't need to backup DRM and reactivate it ??
I miss Viper4android and Adaway so that why I want to root.
MegaMedo said:
I just want to confirm something if you don't mind, If only wanted to root my phone without unlocking bootloader, does that mean that DRM will still be intact and I won't need to backup DRM and reactivate it ??
I miss Viper4android and Adaway so that why I want to root.
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Yes rooting DOES NOT remove the DRM keys or unlock your bootloader.
Unlocking the bootloader will remove your DRM keys and its is something completely different from rooting. There no possible way to "accidentally" unlock your bootloader while rooting.
I suggest you read the forums, good place to start :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930844
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
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Perfectdevil said:
You normaly lose drm features like xreality... Super vivid... Remote play (backup drm keys before unlocking bootloader) because unlocking bootloader destroy drm keys but these can be re activated by 2 ways :
1- relock bootloader with drm keys you backup before (official sony way)... But bootloader will be locked so no custom rom or custom kernels
2- use a flashable zip mod to use drm features (not working on aosp or cm based roms) only on sony based customed rom like existenz and.....
I hope this clarify any info you needed
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hello sir, i'd like to ask : do i lose my drm keys if i root my Z2 ?
really scared
update : oh already asked and answered nvm sorry and thx
Hi guys, yesterday I just installed on my xperia z2 .726 LP stock, prerooted and with recovery. And I don't know if its good for me or no. And as the lollipop is getting updated, im thinking maybe i should go to 5.1?
The question is: Is it really worth unlocking my bootloader and going for 5.1 or I should stick with stock and with locked bootloader?
What I lose if i unlock my bootloader?
And if its worth it, can you give me the links to do it the safest way, without losing some things
Unlocking your bootloader is safe as long as your not stupid about it
You will lose your warrenty, and some xperia features spesific for the stock rom ( these are permanent because unlocking your bootloader wipes your TA partition where unique information is kept)
You can backup your TA if your device is rooted
(google will help here)
So Is it really worth unlocking my bootloader and going for 5.1 or I should stick with stock and with locked bootloader?
And maybe, if u kind, can you tell me, what rom, kernel, what do you use?
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So Is it really worth unlocking my bootloader and going for 5.1 or I should stick with stock and with locked bootloader?
And maybe, if u kind, can you tell me, what rom, kernel, what do you use?
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Id rather stay with stock but androPlus kernel
Stock has all the features and the look i need above any commom custom rom
And the custom kernel alows for some aditional customization as well as some patches that alow even more e.g. xposed
(easier to root, recovery is more static you could say)
If you realy dont care about X-Reality, your warrenty and a couple of xperia apps then an unlocked bootloader is for you.
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Id rather stay with stock but androPlus kernel
Stock has all the features and the look i need above any commom custom rom
And the custom kernel alows for some aditional customization as well as some patches that alow even more e.g. xposed
(easier to root, recovery is more static you could say)
If you realy dont care about X-Reality, your warrenty and a couple of xperia apps then an unlocked bootloader is for you.
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Okay, if I do unlock my bootloader, i lose my warranty, xperia apps, x reality, but doesn`t restoring TA keys, gives me back all of it?
Oh and what about camera?
Dendis said:
Okay, if I do unlock my bootloader, i lose my warranty, xperia apps, x reality, but doesn`t restoring TA keys, gives me back all of it?
Oh and what about camera?
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You lose all that but sony cant tell if you restored your TA or not when you did so yes
Camera quality on stock rom is good but on Ub its somewhat lost however the results are more honnest so to someone who is into photography UB is better
On custom roms its about that of stock, CM based usualy varies depending on the scene.
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You lose all that but sony cant tell if you restored your TA or not when you did so yes
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So I can unlock any time I want and I can relock any time I want. And all functions will be lost/restored if bootloader unlocked/relocked ?
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Camera quality on stock rom is good but on Ub its somewhat lost however the results are more honnest so to someone who is into photography UB is better
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So, if I unlock, does my camera becomes a lot worse? And if I relock, does my camera go back to normal?
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On custom roms its about that of stock, CM based usualy varies depending on the scene.
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So if I unlock, install androplus and existenz 2.0 Y , will I get much worse camera quality?
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So I can unlock any time I want and I can relock any time I want. And all functions will be lost/restored if bootloader unlocked/relocked ?
So, if I unlock, does my camera becomes a lot worse? And if I relock, does my camera go back to normal?
So if I unlock, install androplus and existenz 2.0 Y , will I get much worse camera quality?
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1. This only applies if you restore your TA if backed up before unlockimg
2. The camera quality doesnt even drop all too much.
Envious_Data said:
1. This only applies if you restore your TA if backed up before unlockimg
2. The camera quality doesnt even drop all too much.
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So, camera goes a lot worse in CM roms?
So, I can easily go for TA backup, unlocking and installing existenz with androplus kernel, or even your kernel, if you release it ? ) (camera is important for me) (I want bigger battery life, now its 2days, with 5hrs of sot)
Dendis said:
So, camera goes a lot worse in CM roms?
So, I can easily go for TA backup, unlocking and installing existenz with androplus kernel, or even your kernel, if you release it ? ) (camera is important for me) (I want bigger battery life, now its 2days, with 5hrs of sot)
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Camera quality isnt lost much on any rom
Atleast from the way i use my camera.