Guys,
Lot of talk regarding battery life/ standalone/ accuracy of gear S apps for running.
Used both Nike and S Health- to me both were standalone.
Few bullets
1) some stated that even with GPS on and locked that s health still uses pedometer for distance? (is this true?)
2) I'm still confused if I need gear network AND/OR mobile network on/off - does this affect battery life- if I leave OFF all networks...will my run sync once I turn mobile network or Bt with phone on?
3) any way to get splits read to you (cannot believe this is missing)
4) I don't think this device will get through a marathon unfortunately
Yikes! Just did the car test (run shealth with hand out car) and I can confirm that it doesn't use gps for anything other than map. Feel duped
Relies on pedometer I think
Sorry for my blast posts. It is possible that it only records speeds in running range? I shook hands and didn't increase speed. Also noticed a bike option. Perhaps wrong about duped. Lol
Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
The Nike+ app is tracking the distance correctly with GPS though. If you have everything turned on (GPS, GSM, Bluetooth), then you would get probably about 4-5h of battery time. My goal is to use it on the next marathon and be able to listen on music for the last 60min of the race but i guess I need to run on 3:30 or something to make this possible
BUT, unfortunally the Nike+ app are missing the most important thing and that's the avg pace for the total run. It just show current pace and I don't really like that since it's changs so often so it's hard to see what speed you are runnig at.
So, yeah, I really hope for an update on either of these running apps ASAP!
HTC, thanks.! What a shame re s health app. How do you think it does distance for biking though if uses pedometer for distance?
The Nike app is close to being good..... I can't see the red on black, while your running you can't read scrolling info and of course the avg pace of run is the gold
Also in Nike app you have to turn on GPS manually, not from the app, if you want to track distance accurately. If you don't it uses accelerometer. With GPS on in general battery life is not good. My longest run was 30K in 2:45 had 18% battery left. Also there is one more strange thing about S health - calorie count maxes out at 1000
OK , so I did another test today - used shealth on bike mode. Stuck arm out car window with GPS on. Kept arm still. It tracked distance completely accurately. This tells me that the s health must indeed use GPS accurately. I think the jog portion only measures speeds in running or walking rates as it did not pass my car test.
The Nike app is a bummer as you can't verify GPS lock before it starts. Also the reasons mentioned prior.
The s health app is easier to read but doesn't show you 1 mile splits on the phone app. This is unacceptable.
Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
Yeah, i have been logging miles with the Nike ap too. Its not perfect, but it works for me.
I have 79 miles all logged on my Gear S nike ap this year.
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Not to mention Nike app wastes battery with hr but doesn't record it.
The S Health app records continuous HR during your run. I'm not sure how the Nike+ app works to record HR data. Is it continuously tracking/recording HR data? Or does it do it intermittently when you activate the display and wait for the information to scroll (on the bottom of the screen) to HR?
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Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
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In the Nike+ app there's a small round indicator in the upper righthand corner that turns green as soon as there is a GPS lock. Always on mode is great, but it increases battery drain, so I just do the wrist flick.
Jerome, I think he is referring to indicator if Nike gps locked in before you hit start run. No runner wants the first 0.1 mile not to be recorded.
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Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Hello,
I guess I have to answer both Yes and No on that question
I've tried to reinstall, run without data, without simcard, yeah, tons of different test and it's always way off (map is accurate but the distance it shows is totally off). Another poster in this topic also had the same issue but then he told me to test and choose 'cycle' as training mode instead of running, and, when I did that, then S-Health tracks the distance accurate. So, with other words the application have support for tracking distance in that training mode but of some reason it seem to choose to track the distance by counting steps if I choose running/walking as training mode. So, i'm not sure, maybe your device of some reason have this working on all traning modes. I hope so, and, that someone can explain for me hoooooooooooooooooooow to change this
My gear s tracks distance very accurately when I run gps on. However with GPS off using pedometer it overestimated my distance by approx 0.1 per mile. So gps must work. I did discover as mentioned above, that at high speeds need cycle on.
Not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but my Gear S is the US ATT variety.
In my case, I am fairly certain that no maps are used for measuring distance. Maybe I lucked out.
And when I said my distance gets tracked earlier, I meant the tracks you see at the very bottom of the log in S Health, that correctly display where I took turns, looped back, etc. Without data on, there is no actual map behind them, with data on, there usually is (I had a few flukes before.) The pedometer would not know about turns taken, though.
BTW, I had issues getting a GPS lock for a while until I realized that my phone is messed up. Once I started using the Gear S in stand-alone mode, all was good.
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Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
Thanks
Update to Nike+
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Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
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I was wondering what you noticed that gave you the impression the app had received an update? I have not noticed any audio cues while running. The biggest issue I have with Nike+ is that the GPS doesn't seem to start tracking until a half mile into each run. This happens regardless of how long I stand around in clear view of the sky waiting for a fix on my location.
I am curious how the Nike+ app is managed. It doesn't show up in the gear manager app on my phone, and there doesn't appear to be any means of managing the app (checking for updates etc.) from the Gear S itself. Any thoughts or feedback would be appreciated. This is such a niche device, I can't see myself using it for anything other than running and I'm starting to think that I should have returned it and waited for another 6 models to come out. Hope Samsung can fix the GPS problems with a firmware update.
There was an update on the phone end, which I thought would communicate with the gear (in update info it mentioned gear s update).
When you run, do you have your gear network set to "always on" and Bluetooth off prior to run.? If gear network on auto, won't start independent logging (ie will use phone gps) for 1-2 minutes plus the delay to lock on
Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read. I am unsure if it was pace, but I think one of the parameters was time/mile - during my run this was WAY OFF (unless I misread it) - after run my pace listed was accurate... So have to recheck this.
I did not have any issues with app starting tracking 5 minutes later.
Battery on 40 minute run went down 30%. I had to be reachable by text so I had gear network always on.... Wondering if I can use Nike app with just gps on, and gear net off (for half and full marathons - otherwise the battery won't last!).
The one thing that is necessary (i think) is to disconnect the gear from the phone before run, or else the gear will use your phone gps to show no movement until it transfers over to watch (which takes a few minutes).
Will try health app. Wishing for audible alerts or clearer and accurate pace stats.
Nike app disappointing also battery life
Jeffruby said:
Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read.
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I just got this watch yesterday. Tried running with it today. Didn't do anything special, not even check which background app's were running. Used the Nike app. Very disappointing... I really need to see the pace but the only thing I could read on the display were the large distance numerals, no alerts. I also did some playing around making and receiving voice calls, and having someone at home with my phone use the AT&T Mobile Locate to find where I was. Other than the Nike app. all worked great, except my 8 mile, 1:15:25 run took the battery from near 100% to 18%. I hope I can improve this. My main reason for getting this was to combine the function of a GPS watch with a phone for marathons and half marathons so I could call/find people after the race (especially at big events like next Boston). I need to get at least 5 hours battery since I usually finish 3:40 to 3:50.
I did have the HR recording on (didn't see a way to cancel it in Nike), this may have added battery drain. Also the pedometer function was evidently running since the display came up a few times, as noted above I didn't cancel running app's. I looked at Power Saver mode, but it appears the GPS and 3G may not function in that mode.
I'm going to try S-Health because it has a pace display, and I don't need Facebook cheers (really?) or music. Hopefully it is less of a battery hog.
It was cold out today, but not extreme (30F, 21F windchill) which may have had an effect.
I have 14 days (12 left) to return with re-stocking fee to ATT, so will kick the tires hard. Any advice will be appreciated. I guess I could always wear my Garmin FR220 on one arm and this on the other, and just use it as a phone/after-race navigator/contactor. Still better tha carrying my Note 3 in an armband (they actually don't make one stock to fit it), or risk bouncing it around in a sweaty fanny pack.
Bottom line, my opinion of the Nike app is "not good".
Try it with gear net off but gps on. After race can turn gear net on and make the call. Yeah I was in Baltimore this year and walked around freezing looking for others for too long.
Also agree. The s health may prove better for pace (most important) can swipe to side to see it. Wish it had audio alerts but I can live with looking down at wrist here and there.
another update:ran with shealth today....again 30+mins and again 20% battery gone...not good!
had gear net OFF and gps ON (naturally)- I am now going to try
a) removing motion that turns on watch when i swing hand up (although I like this to quick glance while running and every time i did it the screen did go from off to on...so not thinking this will help)- remote possibility screen is on for most of run (dont think so).
b) need to figure out how to turn off the unwanted HR sensor...so useless and i think is killing battery!!!
c) turn brightness down lower.
the pace on shealth was just as useless as nike app as its INSTANT while gps is pulsatile....still no SPLIT paces or audio paces...thats what i want
I went for 3 hour walk/run with GPS and gear network both on and the battery was at 30% when I got home. Not bad!
Nice day finally.
Went for a 9mile jog. Turned on gps and went with Nike app. Saw the GPS and went.
Went to look at stats and apparently gps stayed grey (couldn't see in bright light)... Stunk. (also stinks couldn't read the red ticker tape at bottom in sun during run)- I'd use shealth if it had splits.
Anyway got home and tried s health. Also wouldn't lock gps. Linked with phone which I previously left home.
Went to gear manager and appa-and some odd update pushed to watch. Then gps worked again after disconnecting phone.
Bummer (and odd)
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Nice day finally.
Went for a 9mile jog. Turned on gps and went with Nike app. Saw the GPS and went.
Went to look at stats and apparently gps stayed grey (couldn't see in bright light)... Stunk. (also stinks couldn't read the red ticker tape at bottom in sun during run)- I'd use shealth if it had splits.
Anyway got home and tried s health. Also wouldn't lock gps. Linked with phone which I previously left home.
Went to gear manager and appa-and some odd update pushed to watch. Then gps worked again after disconnecting phone.
Bummer (and odd)
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Thanks for your post; I'd appreciate it if you could update with your future experience post update and after making sure you have a lock
So today farting around with my GPS. Step 1, turn on gps, step 2 disconnected from phone on gear manager. Step 3- tried s health. And behold. Wouldn't lock. But.... I noticed that the pic showed the watch and the phone trying to lock, yet phone disconnected! Watch still somehow was trying to lock onto phone gps. So... I then turned off watch Bluetooth thinking the watch Bt was still thinking it was connected to phone... And voila... Gps locked. Even locked when I turned on watch Bt afterwards.
Important to note the pic on shealth showing watch or watch plus phone.... This behavior is new since updating to lollipop
I used S health today to test my brand new gear s. I cycled to the office. No problems for this. I even used my BT headphones during this ride (15 minutes). Afterwards I downloaded the gpx data from S health to my dropbox and uploaded the file to my on-and-only favorite running app RUNTASTIC. In runtastic you can see the split times.
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I used S health today to test my brand new gear s. I cycled to the office. No problems for this. I even used my BT headphones during this ride (15 minutes). Afterwards I downloaded the gpx data from S health to my dropbox and uploaded the file to my on-and-only favorite running app RUNTASTIC. In runtastic you can see the split times.
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Correction, gpx only available if activity is cycling. Tried other activities but only cycling is provided with the option to export gpx stats. Strange.
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jeffrubenstein17 said:
Nice day finally.
Went for a 9mile jog. Turned on gps and went with Nike app. Saw the GPS and went.
Went to look at stats and apparently gps stayed grey (couldn't see in bright light)... Stunk. (also stinks couldn't read the red ticker tape at bottom in sun during run)- I'd use shealth if it had splits.
Anyway got home and tried s health. Also wouldn't lock gps. Linked with phone which I previously left home.
Went to gear manager and appa-and some odd update pushed to watch. Then gps worked again after disconnecting phone.
Bummer (and odd)
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In Nike+, I found that I have to give the watch a moment to refresh the screen before stopping activity at the end of my run, because every time my screen goes black, the watch remembers those very last stats. When I turn the screen on for the first time after starting my run, it will show 0 km and a grey GPS signal, then go to the actual kms run and green GPS signal after a moment.
I use my Gear S in stand-alone mode, with BT off, location on and data on when running. One of the latest Gear S updates combined sHealth with Nike+ which slows down the signal lock in Nike+, from what I've read, so I don't have it installed. sHealth GPS lock takes forever and a day on my watch, while Nike+ is instantaneous.
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience about Gear S. I have also used Gear S and I found few issues with health monitoring apps. I am not using Gear S anymore. Now I am thinking about having a Modular smart watch.
thanks to biktor_bj soon we will be able to run strava, endomodo, runastic, mapmyfitness, runkeeper and every other amazing apps out there, THANK YOU <3
OMG I totally missed biktor's thread!! Thanks for posting this.
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thanks to biktor_bj soon we will be able to run strava, endomodo, runastic, mapmyfitness, runkeeper and every other amazing apps out there, THANK YOU <3
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Who and when will this be ?
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Who and when will this be ?
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we dont know, but he is working on it, some of the things are already working,
you can follow biktor_bj's thread here
Hello All. I've been searching this and other forums for an answer for several hours now, and haven't found one yet. Any help is appreciated. Just got a Gear Fit, and have it linked to my Galaxy S5. S health, Gear Fit manager, and watch are all updated to latest versions.
1) Heart Rate Monitor. I used the HRM on my S5 while working out on occasion, but found it useless due to the need to turn it on to get a one time reading. Part of the reason I got the GF was to have the Heartrate monitor. Unfortunately, it operates like S-health does on the S5. I have to turn it on to get a reading. Is there a 3rd party app that I can use to consistently monitor my Heart Rate while working out (so I can just glance at my watch and see it). Even better, one that notifies you if your HR goes higher or lower than desired?
2) Sleep tracker - is there an App that will autodetect sleep with this watch? I constantly forget to turn the sleep mode off, and end up with much longer sleep segments than I actually have (i.e. I take the watch off when showering and getting ready in AM, don't put it on till I leave for work, and end up with 45min-1hr more of 'sleep' tracked.
Thanks much!
For part 1 of your question - There is an exercise mode on the samsung gear fit which constantly monitors your heart beat.
Not sure about the second part though I have the same problem - I wish it did like the phone does and identifies when I am awake based on my movement also it would be good if S-Health allowed me to modify sleep time after recording - not sure if it can now.
I've noticed using Waze I'll see GPS go in and out, and occasionally I try to post pictures to Instagram and find out there's no GPS tagging in them. Anyone else seen this?
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I've noticed using Waze I'll see GPS go in and out, and occasionally I try to post pictures to Instagram and find out there's no GPS tagging in them. Anyone else seen this?
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YES! Install a GPS Test and you can actually see the amount of Satellites seen go to zero. I can sit in the same place for 5 minutes and it will go from 21 to 0 every 10 - 60 seconds with a clear sky. I am wondering if this is a software or hardware issue. It is noticeable when using Gmaps to navigate, you will see your arrow simply stop when driving down the highway for 5 seconds at a time.
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YES! Install a GPS Test and you can actually see the amount of Satellites seen go to zero. I can sit in the same place for 5 minutes and it will go from 21 to 0 every 10 - 60 seconds with a clear sky. I am wondering if this is a software or hardware issue. It is noticeable when using Gmaps to navigate, you will see your arrow simply stop when driving down the highway for 5 seconds at a time.
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Im sitting at my desk and watching it not get a fix. The location icon in the status bar never goes white, and the GPSTest just sits there not getting a fix. I've tried disabling the low power GPS option in settings with no luck.
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YES! Install a GPS Test and you can actually see the amount of Satellites seen go to zero. I can sit in the same place for 5 minutes and it will go from 21 to 0 every 10 - 60 seconds with a clear sky. I am wondering if this is a software or hardware issue. It is noticeable when using Gmaps to navigate, you will see your arrow simply stop when driving down the highway for 5 seconds at a time.
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Same here I've noticed on my t-mobile version.... Hmm...
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Im sitting at my desk and watching it not get a fix. The location icon in the status bar never goes white, and the GPSTest just sits there not getting a fix. I've tried disabling the low power GPS option in settings with no luck.
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Sometimes indoors GPS has more difficulty. Has it worked there before with other phones?
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Worked with my GPS navigation a bit more... definitely see the GPS lose tracking every few minutes. Turned off the iZat, didn't make a difference. Plugged in a power source, thought it might help a little, but nope, GPS lost every once in a while. Bah, just when I thought I had received a problem-free unit
Any more information on this? As of April 1st, my LG G5 seems to be way off on GPS. I noticed it using Runkeeper. I thought maybe it was a Runkeeper issue, but then used MapMyRun and got the same I looked in history and saw that since getting this phone (traded in my G4 for the G5) I had one successfully tracked run, then it all went haywire. Never had a problem with the G4 - so it can't be signal issues (IMO). And since this phone got it right once... that is strange to me.
To give an idea... I ran about 10 miles and it told me 18. When I looked at the runkeeper map it looked like I was running down side streets, into fields, crazy stuff. Like it never got a real lock on my location.
I'm wondering if I need to return this phone??
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Any more information on this? As of April 1st, my LG G5 seems to be way off on GPS. I noticed it using Runkeeper. I thought maybe it was a Runkeeper issue, but then used MapMyRun and got the same I looked in history and saw that since getting this phone (traded in my G4 for the G5) I had one successfully tracked run, then it all went haywire. Never had a problem with the G4 - so it can't be signal issues (IMO). And since this phone got it right once... that is strange to me.
To give an idea... I ran about 10 miles and it told me 18. When I looked at the runkeeper map it looked like I was running down side streets, into fields, crazy stuff. Like it never got a real lock on my location.
I'm wondering if I need to return this phone??
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I have only used the G5 in the car a few times and it seems to work fine - using google maps, not waze.
I use a couple apps to track biking and they work fine. However, when I use them I use an app called GPS keeper pro to keep the GPS running all the time. It seems to help with apps for fitness. I started using it with the G3 and just kept right on with the G5. You might want to try GPS Keeper for your running apps.
I use GPS only in the location settings. That may help. At least my apps that rely on GPS open much faster with that setting.
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My specific GPS issue was that it would lose lock a minute or so into a perfectly normal navigation lock while using Gmaps. It would relock after several seconds, only to lose lock again. This repeated over and over.
I was using the app GPS Status to monitor this. However, it hasn't surfaced in a few days, so I don't know if there was some rogue app or former setting that was interfering with GPS holding lock. I've hypothesized maybe it was GPS Status itself which was interfering. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, and so far *knock on wood* it hasn't popped up again.
This sounds a bit different from some of the problems listed here. The run tracker not getting a good track might be related to this, if it is never able to consistently keep GPS lock. Try monitoring the GPS satellite lock icon when the app is running. Does it go from lock (white) to not lock (grey)?
Mine is actually grey most of the time but when I'm connected to wifi calling it's constantly white. Weird. This thing needs an update for a few different reasons. Coming from the note 4 I notice differences in the software obviously but somethings seem like they don't quite work right. Example being when I used wifi calling on the note 4 it would grey out the regular signal but on this it's still active with the bars going up and down. I'm pretty sure it should cancel the network out all together but maybe this is just different. I don't know.
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Maybe it's using the wifi connection hotspot to determine your location? So does your GPS really work at all then?
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Maybe it's using the wifi connection hotspot to determine your location? So does your GPS really work at all then?
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Well I do have it set to GPS only in location settings but until I get out and try to use maps I guess I really won't know. It does find me in maps or other weather apps though.
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Well - I got my second LG G5 hoping that would solve the problem. Doesn't seem to be any different
I've tried this so far:
High Accuracy - Was Already Set
Turn off WiFi location
Tried GPS Keeper to keep signal alive
Tried GPS Status Utility - NOTED: Takes a long time to lock and still will start 'searching' for long periods of time.
Tried with no cover on
New phone seems the same I love the LG phone itself, but I can't handle this. I should have returned it for a Samsung. Are there any other tricks I am missing?
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Well - I got my second LG G5 hoping that would solve the problem. Doesn't seem to be any different
I've tried this so far:
High Accuracy - Was Already Set
Turn off WiFi location
Tried GPS Keeper to keep signal alive
Tried GPS Status Utility - NOTED: Takes a long time to lock and still will start 'searching' for long periods of time.
Tried with no cover on
New phone seems the same I love the LG phone itself, but I can't handle this. I should have returned it for a Samsung. Are there any other tricks I am missing?
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Do you perhaps have greenify on? I have a theory that the aggressive doze may be affecting GPS lock duration.
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Do you perhaps have greenify on? I have a theory that the aggressive doze may be affecting GPS lock duration.
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I don't think I have greenify loaded? I searched in Google Play and it only says 'install', so can't be on my phone.
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I don't think I have greenify loaded? I searched in Google Play and it only says 'install', so can't be on my phone.
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Correct, you don't have it installed then. Have you tried disabling iZat? It's the low power GPS addition, at the bottom of the GPS settings page.
Also, just to cover all the bases, you are outdoors when you're searching for GPS, right?
I have a stock T-Mobile G5, I've also noticed inconsistent GPS. Acts as if it's stuck. I'll open Google Maps and it'll show my location from 90 minutes ago. Won't update until I turn on airplane and then off again. Once the radios come back up GPS updates. Hoping for an update to fix this ASAP.
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Correct, you don't have it installed then. Have you tried disabling iZat? It's the low power GPS addition, at the bottom of the GPS settings page.
Also, just to cover all the bases, you are outdoors when you're searching for GPS, right?
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The low power GPS is turned off, yes. When I run the test I am running it right next to my window indoors. I run it on my HTC One (not activated) and my LG G5 (activated - new phone). HTC locks immediately (2-5 seconds) with 14/20 satellites, G5 does not lock for at least 3 minutse with anywhere between 18-26 satellites (I gave up after 3 minutes). I tried turning off/on airplane mode like the previous post - didn't change anything for me.
Even though the GPS doesn't show lock on the LG G5, I can get google maps working. It isn't very accurate, though. It sometimes shows me stuck in a location for about 1-2 miles. It also shows me off the roads, typically.
I found a way to replicate the GPS issue! I was having it behaving really intermittently on my car mount (vertically), and then I decided to tilt it horizontal and suddenly it got a lock! I've verified it by GPS test apps and it's super obvious that in a vertical orientation, the GPS doesn't get a proper lock.
Any of you guys wanna validate this?
I'm having this issue as well, sometimes takes a couple minutes or more to obtain initial lock when I get in my car every morning and start Waze (although it guesstimates my location based on last lock / WiFi), plus then it drops out 2-3 times per drive, which is incredibly frustrating and has caused me to miss turns. I lose lock with WiFi both enabled and disabled during my drive
As a couple people already said, I use the T-Mobile G5. I'm curious if all of us experiencing the problem use the T-Mobile version and it might be a carrier ROM issue. My network and GPS settings are how they were out of the box, although now that I know it exists, I'll try disabling IZat low-power location just to see if there's any improvement.
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I found a way to replicate the GPS issue! I was having it behaving really intermittently on my car mount (vertically), and then I decided to tilt it horizontal and suddenly it got a lock! I've verified it by GPS test apps and it's super obvious that in a vertical orientation, the GPS doesn't get a proper lock.
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My phone is always horizontal in my car dock, with the top of the phone facing left, but I'm still losing GPS lock. Do you use yours horizontally the other way?
I can tilt mine any way I want and it won't lock I ran a test this morning while taking my kids to school. I took out my old HTC One and turned on Runkeeper (running app). Turned Runkeeper on LG G5 (separate Runkeeper account to be sure nothing got screwy). G5 couldn't lock enough to map anything, HTC mapped perfectly to the roads. I then used VZ Navigator (Verizons map system - this was done at Verizon's request). The maps trailed me by about 1/2 to 1/4 mile and showed me about 200 yards off the road. Then - GPS lost. All the while - HTC mapped me out with Runkeeper perfectly mapped to the roads.
Since this is my second LG G5 with GPS issues... I think there is a problem with the phone or maybe the Verizon version of the phone. Sounds like T-Mobile also, though, so could just be some LG software screwing things up.
Either way - I'm probably getting the S7 now. I really like the G5 with the rear fingerprint scanner... but I need a GPS that works out of the box.
Does anyone else have issues with their unit (I have the T-Mobile version) mistakenly showing their location as someplace they were HOURS earlier? My maps shows the location where I currently am, but then will occasionally report my location incorrectly as where I was earlier that day, which affects my weather and traffic reporting. Any thoughts?
Do you have high accuracy enabled?
I do have high accuracy enabled. Which the phone doesn't seem to understand the definition of.
If it is showing properly when you open maps but not in other apps, then it isn't the GPS that's the issue. Those apps aren't updating properly.
Mine is off by about 20 ft or so ... no biggie.
One thought though ... do you have background data blocked for the map app?
Background data enabled. I'll use the phone to navigate from work to school. The map shows me at school. Weather and traffic based around campus. Then, maybe an hour later, I look at my phone and it gives me the weather for my office, not school. I open google maps, it looks like I'm back at work, but I'm not.
I have had this happen several times. I open a gps Waze and Google maps, for a little while at work then minmize. A few hours later I will use the gps again at a different location and the gps will flip back an forth from the previous location, this will occur 30 min away or in another state.
I have tried to just shutdown the app and restart but still occurs. My only way to clear this has been to reboot the phone. This happen on both Waze and Google maps.
I found turning location off and back on works for me, but this shouldn't happen
Joe Smithereens said:
Does anyone else have issues with their unit (I have the T-Mobile version) mistakenly showing their location as someplace they were HOURS earlier? My maps shows the location where I currently am, but then will occasionally report my location incorrectly as where I was earlier that day, which affects my weather and traffic reporting. Any thoughts?
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I've had this issue several times. With my G6 and V30. It happens when I'm using a GPS heavy app and then go inside where a good GPS signal cannot be found or where I'm on WiFi. Oddly. I feel like it happens more if that iZat crap is active. Happens a lot with PoGo.
Also get heavy GPS drifting when in High Accuracy Mode. GPS on LG devices seems to work best in Device Only Mode.
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This is driving me mad. I had to switch phone due to this issue on Galaxy S7 and now it happens on V30.
Took a factory reset for mine to work again. Was fine for the entire time I've had the phone, then out of the blue, just stopped working.
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zsunsun said:
This is driving me mad. I had to switch phone due to this issue on Galaxy S7 and now it happens on V30.
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Chiming in with "other phones have wonky GPS too": My Moto X Pure has had a couple instances where position appeared to be randomly jumping around, up to several hundred feet away with varying azimuth. Made for " fun" navigation in heavy traffic in unfamiliar cities.
But don't worry, autonomous vehicles will work without a problem. (Yeahhhhh....right....)
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Autonomous vehicles are using a wide array of sensors to work, combine with deep learning, big data, etc. The GPS used in phones is not the same chip as the one used in a dedicated GPS device, even something as a sports watch as a much more precise GPS, optimised antenna, dedicated processor and optimised OS. I’ve been trying to use phones to track my runs for years and it always jumped around a bit. In a car, depending on the placement (direct view of the sky, for instance vs. blocked by the ceiling), on the weather, on the insulation of the car even, you can have issue with jumping signal. You can try to place the phone in a spot where the antenna has a view of the sky and it might be less of a problem.
I have noticed that the issue is with both Pokemon Go and Google maps. It is really frustrating, and sometimes nothing seems to help. On another site, they recommended installing GPs Status and Toolbox from Google play store. I will try that. If that does not help, the site said that the issue is with the GPS antenna.