Battery - Samsung Galaxy Alpha

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I don't get your problem i have 2 Batterys if o have to get thru the whole day and night without changing. But 12-15h with one Battery are no Problem for me, and i use Bluetooth Headset GPS Wlan NFC all the time
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cebulank said:
I don't get your problem i have 2 Batterys if o have to get thru the whole day and night without changing. But 12-15h with one Battery are no Problem for me, and i use Bluetooth Headset GPS Wlan NFC all the time
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First, based on my usage over the past 3 days, I don't know how that would be even remotely possible. Right now, I have all of that turned off, and my battery is dying just sitting there laying dormant....never saw that before, even with something as small as an iphone 4.
Second, I think you actually proved my point when you said you have to use 2 batteries. I've had iphones and an galaxy note 3 and s5 before and it was never an issue before that I even had to think about having a second battery. I used to read reviews of people saying that a benefit of a samsung over and iphone was the removable battery....while it's true that the battery might be removable, with the iphone you don't need to.

You should not exaggerate, sure this is not the phone if you're a really heavy user.
But I'm using it with everything ON, and never had a problem with it, I'm charging it every night.
But if you do have battery issues, you can buy yourself the 2500mah extended battery.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-6-battery-life-test/
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-alpha-exynos-5430-battery-test/

I am a heavy user and average about 4 hours of SOT with LTE Web Browsing and about 30 minutes of calls BUT I will probably get the 2500 Mah Battery ..
Also there may be a 20 -25% difference between Qualcomm and Exynos Versions with Exynos better ( wild guess on my part on %).
Still coming from a Note 3 , Alpha could be a shock.
Should have been 8mm thick with 2700 Mah
Battery and Ram and Camera and SD like Note 4....THEN Alpha would not be discontinued...lol.

I think you have somehow faulty phone, because this phone has awesome standby time, even with nfc/wifi/GPS on. And it can even survive 30mins of talking with just 3% of battery. Usually the battery in my alpha and in some other alphas survives 12+h with wifi/nfc on and with 3-4h SOT.

Sounds like the phone or battery is messed up. Just replaced battery. If it still doesn't fix, contact carrier
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I've had my Alpha for a week now (Exynos version) and I'm disappointed in the battery as well. I bought it for music playback and I took a six hour drive over the weekend with it functioning in airplane mode streaming music through the headphone jack. That was it. It was down to 9% at the end of my drive. Call me crazy, but that's unacceptable for it not being connected to ANY network. It was just playing music and an audiobook located on the device. Is this normal? I can return it, but I love the form factor and the audio quality is second to none, so I will probably just live with it.
-Collin-

There is an extended battery that you can get if you need some extra juice.

Try latest Firmware... BOA2 gave me 20% better battery life
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If you completely disable NFC the battery lasts for more than 2 days.

Can you post screenshots of your battery use? It would be interesting to see why your phones battery die so many times faster than mine

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Can you post screenshots of your battery use? It would be interesting to see why your phones battery die so many times faster than mine
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Yes, I would love to. Please let me know how to do that. I will also try to look it up, but I haven't used android in a while so it's all new to me again.
Incidentally, I continue to be dissatisfied with the battery compared to my past iphones. I have everything turned off, e.g., NFC, bluetooth, etc. And, I hardly have any apps installed.

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@ skirush, you either have a bad phone or an app that is draining your battery in the background. And don't blame the "pathetic" battery. I'm getting 70 minutes of screen time when my battery drains to 20%. Also, I am not using the power save modes.
Did you buy your phone new? It is very odd that you are not getting better performance from your Alpha.

I'm not really sure what to do. I'm pretty pissed about this whole thing. I went out on a limb and bought it new online. Once I got the phone, I confirmed with both AT&T and Samsung that the phone was legit and both said yes. In fact, Samsung even said that the phone is covered under warranty. So, instead of returning it (due to the poor battery life) I kept it. Now, I might be too late to return it to the company I bought it from. It's been over their 14 day return policy.
I have had the feeling that its messed up ever since I first got it, but I decided to stick with it since samsung said it was legit. Now, I'm regretting it.

thumbs down for Samsung support
I called Samsung tech support/customer service. Get this, they are willing to replace the battery...IF, I first send them my battery that's currently in my phone. That's just not possible. Like most people, I have one cell phone with one battery. I don't have a landline phone. So, I don't have spare batteries just lying around to use in the mean time.
That's bs from my perspective. I've had replacements on phones sent to me before. For example, ATT sent me a replacement Note 3 and they took my credit card info on file. After I returned the old unit back to them they release a hold in the amount of the phone.
Not sure why samsung is unwilling to do this. Seems ridiculous to expect someone to send them a battery for their phone, thus rendering it useless. And who knows how long it would take them to send a new one back to me. Could be a total 2 weeks without a phone between me mailing them the old battery and them sending me a new one. Who can do that?

a battery costs about 10$ and for longer trips you may need a second one. So why don't you buy an second one and send the battery from the phone to Samsung?

skirush said:
First, based on my usage over the past 3 days, I don't know how that would be even remotely possible. Right now, I have all of that turned off, and my battery is dying just sitting there laying dormant....never saw that before, even with something as small as an iphone 4.
Second, I think you actually proved my point when you said you have to use 2 batteries. I've had iphones and an galaxy note 3 and s5 before and it was never an issue before that I even had to think about having a second battery. I used to read reviews of people saying that a benefit of a samsung over and iphone was the removable battery....while it's true that the battery might be removable, with the iphone you don't need to.
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I am an ATT user so I did have the 850A version with the snapdragon and I did notice that the battery life was pretty bad, but not as bad as you illustrate - and yes this phone gets nowhere near the life as the IPhone6 (my wife has one too).
modpunk said:
If you completely disable NFC the battery lasts for more than 2 days.
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I totally agree with this. The NFC chip on this phone kills the battery. I dropped from 100 to 65 % in 4 hours with the phone in standby. I turned off NFC and 3 hours later it only dropped another 6%
LochNiss said:
@ skirush, you either have a bad phone or an app that is draining your battery in the background. And don't blame the "pathetic" battery. I'm getting 70 minutes of screen time when my battery drains to 20%. Also, I am not using the power save modes.
Did you buy your phone new? It is very odd that you are not getting better performance from your Alpha.
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I had a DLNA app in the background running (just the service) and it too drained the battery as it was constantly trying to find DLNA ready devices.
Bottom line: Either you have a defective battery/phone or you have a consumer that you have not discovered yet.
BTW I switched to the 850M with the samsung chip just because I get the rooting support that the A version will propably never get. Plus the phone outright is cheaper.

ski_rush said:
....Not sure why samsung is unwilling to do this. Seems ridiculous to expect someone to send them a battery for their phone, thus rendering it useless. And who knows how long it would take them to send a new one back to me. Could be a total 2 weeks without a phone between me mailing them the old battery and them sending me a new one. Who can do that?
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I purchased this aftermarket battery as a backup. it's been working like the original one. $6 shipped to you is a steal for me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Battery-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Alpha-G850-/111584617173
Sucks that Samsung is making you jump through these hoops. I would check with the retailer you bought it from if you can exchange it. If not, file a claim with your credit card. Good luck

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Super lasting Battery!

Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
since the last time I posted this thread,
it's already been several days,
during this period, I've bought a 4500 mah battery,
that is: '''Power-Cell Ultra Battery & Back Cover - HTC Touch HD - 4500 mAh'''!!!
I received this item this morning and decided to return it asap!!!
cos it is damn big and bad looking when I had it on my phone(HTC Touch HD)
I wasn't expect it is that huge and ugly anyway,
SOOOOO! I'm here to warn people that like me want a higher capacity battery for their phone:
always check in details of items that you are going to buy, otherwise
you may have your regret after buying, and make urself inconveniences
whatever, I hope you guys won't have the same regrets as I have atm.....
F* word!!!
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hi all,
I'm quite disappointed with original battery's lasting hour...
is there any battery which is suite for touch hd and lasting longer??
if so, please show me the specific model, I can't wait to have a better one!!
Search, read, search...dont post without search for your answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475869
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457198
hey, thanks for let me know that!
I'll do the research myself before post a new thread next time
btw, can i just confirm with you, is the 4500 mha one really works for touch hd? is there any where that i can get one in UK, cheers!
Check my first post, if you are going to buy a new battery!
on the other hand, could someone recommand me another battery that is higher capacity in comparison to the original but has the same size as original one(looking) at the same time????????
lynne02191 said:
Check my first post, if you are going to buy a new battery!
on the other hand, could someone recommand me another battery that is higher capacity in comparison to the original but has the same size as original one(looking) at the same time????????
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I happy to use this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Momax-X-Level-B...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
vuvan said:
I happy to use this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Momax-X-Level-B...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
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Thanks so much, but I've just ordered one from other seller yesterday
lynne02191 said:
Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
since the last time I posted this thread,
it's already been several days,
during this period, I've bought a 4500 mah battery,
that is: '''Power-Cell Ultra Battery & Back Cover - HTC Touch HD - 4500 mAh'''!!!
I received this item this morning and decided to return it asap!!!
cos it is damn big and bad looking when I had it on my phone(HTC Touch HD)
I wasn't expect it is that huge and ugly anyway,
SOOOOO! I'm here to warn people that like me want a higher capacity battery for their phone:
always check in details of items that you are going to buy, otherwise
you may have your regret after buying, and make urself inconveniences
whatever, I hope you guys won't have the same regrets as I have atm.....
F* word!!!
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hi all,
I'm quite disappointed with original battery's lasting hour...
is there any battery which is suite for touch hd and lasting longer??
if so, please show me the specific model, I can't wait to have a better one!!
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Do you have a picture to show how ugly this thing looks?
Not for carrying around but perhaps good for emergencies.
ez2remember said:
Do you have a picture to show how ugly this thing looks?
Not for carrying around but perhaps good for emergencies.
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I'm sorry, but the item I've already returned to its relative department...
lynne02191 said:
I received this item this morning and decided to return it asap!!!
cos it is damn big and bad looking when I had it on my phone(HTC Touch HD)
I wasn't expect it is that huge and ugly anyway,
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How could you possibly expect a battery with OVER THREE times the capacity of the original to not be at least three times the size of the original?!?!
Maybe if the battery had 10 - 20% extra, it might manage to squeeze in the original cover - but not 200% extra! These guys aren't magicians!
I bought a 2500mah one from ebay which also has a huge hump (which I expected!). Its not pretty to look at - but my only purpose for it is to watch films on the plane when travelling, so I'm not that fussed. I'll just switch it back when I get off the plane!
On another note - I usually charge my original battery every night, but this week I thought I'd try running it flat and see how long it lasts. Almost 4 days with a few calls / texts and about 15mins of GPRS internet a day... and one day with about 30mins of music through its speaker!
Not to shabby really!
I found a Photo with a 3000 mAh Battery:
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that looks very crappy, now imagine the same with 4500.
Some more pics and description here
Myself, I see the use for special occasions (hiking trip with GPS, long flight with movies) but still find it a pity they keep using battery shapes that leaves so much empty space.
3000mAh & 4500mAh
cybermaus said:
Myself, I see the use for special occasions (hiking trip with GPS, long flight with movies) but still find it a pity they keep using battery shapes that leaves so much empty space.
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Thats EXACTLY what I bought my 2500mah battery for!!! Movies on the plane to Canada, then GPS tracking of my snowboarding using snowranger software. As its hidden in my pocket, I don't really care what it looks like! I just hope that the 2500mah is enough to last about 8 hours of GPS and MP3.
p3eps said:
How could you possibly expect a battery with OVER THREE times the capacity of the original to not be at least three times the size of the original?!?!
Maybe if the battery had 10 - 20% extra, it might manage to squeeze in the original cover - but not 200% extra! These guys aren't magicians!
I bought a 2500mah one from ebay which also has a huge hump (which I expected!). Its not pretty to look at - but my only purpose for it is to watch films on the plane when travelling, so I'm not that fussed. I'll just switch it back when I get off the plane!
On another note - I usually charge my original battery every night, but this week I thought I'd try running it flat and see how long it lasts. Almost 4 days with a few calls / texts and about 15mins of GPRS internet a day... and one day with about 30mins of music through its speaker!
Not to shabby really!
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Yep, I acknowledge it's my fault since I bought it without adequate amount of researches of the item. I know that 3000/4500 mah should lasts many times longer than the original one, but it really doesn't looks decent, that why I finally decided to return it....
Avalun said:
I found a Photo with a 3000 mAh Battery:
that looks very crappy, now imagine the same with 4500.
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no, the 4500mah one is bigger lol
cybermaus said:
Some more pics and description here
Myself, I see the use for special occasions (hiking trip with GPS, long flight with movies) but still find it a pity they keep using battery shapes that leaves so much empty space.
3000mAh & 4500mAh
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thank your for those pictures, so that people can know what's it looks like before they buy it
lynne02191 said:
I'm quite disappointed with original battery's lasting hour...
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I'm surprised to read that. My diamond would go through a battery in roughly 7-8 hours... .thus the reason why I kept two spares on a separate charger.
I received my HD a week ago and at the end of a 10-12 hour day, I've used 25% percent, sometimes 50%.
Just for reference, I use the phone for my business and personal use. I run roughly 5000 minutes a month so I'm on it a decent amount.
I'm THRILLED with battery life on the HD compared to the Diamond.
Mark
There's a 1500mah battery kicking about on ebay, only a shade under 10% more than than the original, but should be able to squeeze a decent amount of time extra for basic day to day usage
One thing we must all consider is our background running apps.
I've heard that S2U2 drains the battery fast... I have it installed on mine but can't really make a comparison against what it was like if I hadn't installed it.
Check your \Windows\StartUp folder. If there's something there you've installed, question if you really need it on all of the time.
Also, use button mapping tools to kick off background apps that you occasionally use.
e.g. I use MobileMagic for screen rotation on all apps and button mapping. This runs in the background at all times. I've also install TaskFacade to manage my runnig apps. By default this runs in the background and is likely to drain the battery. So, I simply removed it from the StartUp folder and used the Back button mapping in Mobile Magic to start it up when I need it. On first use it takes a few seconds to run, but thereafter it's pretty quick.
At least this way, you have more control over startup and only engage apps when their really needed.
Just my $0.02 worth...
related:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531537&page=3
roundup at time of posting:
1500mAh pricey but quality seller
1700mAh cheap and does the biz
1950mAh mixed results - one guy got worse performance than the 1350mAh stock under heavy load, another guy took it easy and it lasted for ages.
Jury still out on the 1950 but the 1700 seems like a good buy, tho you might have to do some rooting around to buy it if you're a yank.
Another Battery Option
Another option for more power is something like th eGear reserve battery pack. It is small, rechargeable and can be used with any future phones you might get. It has multiple adapters (mini usb, ipod, ...). I have been using mine for a couple of months and have been very happy. I could not find the one I have online but here is something similar:
http://www.computer-takeaway.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=31
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2000mah battery OEM size

cgi.ebay.com/2000mah-Spare-Battery-for-HTC-T7373-Touch-Touch-Pro-2_W0QQitemZ390105853539QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_MobilePhoneAccessories?hash=item5ad41eee63#ht_3085wt_788 .
I purchased 1 of these Andida (1600mah) for my G1 and battery life increase is very noticeable. Just ordered 1 for my Tmo TP2.
Looking forward to your review. I will also buy one in case its worth once I have my rhodium. Cheers..
an extra 500mah's does seem nice for a few quid, ill hold out for your review also.
post for review curious myself as I got about a day out of this thing although I did talk for 3 hours on it
I would be real leary and real careful about buying a battery that inexpensive, even if it is 2000mah. If its protection circuit is not good or even worse, non existent, that TP2 is nothing but a grenade in your pocket. I know I'm not risking a no name Chinese battery in any device I know. You just never know what you are getting for your money.
I would be real leary and real careful about buying a battery that inexpensive, even if it is 2000mah. If its protection circuit is not good or even worse, non existent, that TP2 is nothing but a grenade in your pocket. I know I'm not risking a no name Chinese battery in any device I own. You just never know what you are getting for your money.
I purchased this like 10days ago... takes a while to get here... alot of people are purchang this and no complaints yet...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90763
So how about some impressions after some time? Is it good, it doesn't make your TP2 explode?
I just ordered mine so I'm curious to find out your opinion.
Ive been using this for over a week.... no explosions yet... im getting 20-30% more life out of my phone... the battery packaging is legit and the battery is high quality... lets just say now i cant even remember where i left the oem battery lol
Received mine yesterday
So far so good (89% after 10 hours and I have push email)
2000mAh Andida
Received the 2000mAh. Put it to the test with Coreplayer in a loop playing Coraline fullscreen sound off. The Andida lasted 130 minutes first charge, 155 minutes second and third charge.
The stock 1500mAh HTC lasts 220 minutes. Quite a difference. But for € 7,50 including shipping you won't hear me complain. It's still a whole lot cheaper per minute than the other leading brands.
BTW, I haven't tested it yet but it seems the 2000mAh Andida provides longer stand-by times. Will test that starting today. If so, someone have a theory as to how Li-Ion batteries perform different under different circumstances? If there is a theoretical possibility that is
Packaging was quite professional I must say. Apart from that, the battery doesn't heat up, not during charging and not while it was put to the test.
Die Bruine said:
Received the 2000mAh. Put it to the test with Coreplayer in a loop playing Coraline fullscreen sound off. The Andida lasted 130 minutes first charge, 155 minutes second and third charge.
The stock 1500mAh HTC lasts 220 minutes. Quite a difference. But for € 7,50 including shipping you won't hear me complain. It's still a whole lot cheaper per minute than the other leading brands.
BTW, I haven't tested it yet but it seems the 2000mAh Andida provides longer stand-by times. Will test that starting today. If so, someone have a theory as to how Li-Ion batteries perform different under different circumstances? If there is a theoretical possibility that is
Packaging was quite professional I must say. Apart from that, the battery doesn't heat up, not during charging and not while it was put to the test.
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A higher stand-by time but lower overall energy density is unlikely given they are both lithium ion. It's possible there are more impurities or something of the sort in the Andida battery, giving a higher internal resistance (meaning it has a high voltage drop-off when under full load). That would indicate a very poor manufacturing process and be a surprise.
This thing about these batteries having 2000mAh is total BS. I've tested for my own amusement a few of these cheap batteries under a few different testing regimes (using This). They can squeeze a few mAh by stripping down the packaging and safety stuff, but not much. All battery manufacturers are limited by simple chemistry. In this case, Lithium Polymer. If you want a high Ah battery, it will be bigger.
Die Bruine said:
Received the 2000mAh. Put it to the test with Coreplayer in a loop playing Coraline fullscreen sound off. The Andida lasted 130 minutes first charge, 155 minutes second and third charge.
The stock 1500mAh HTC lasts 220 minutes. Quite a difference. But for € 7,50 including shipping you won't hear me complain. It's still a whole lot cheaper per minute than the other leading brands.
BTW, I haven't tested it yet but it seems the 2000mAh Andida provides longer stand-by times. Will test that starting today. If so, someone have a theory as to how Li-Ion batteries perform different under different circumstances? If there is a theoretical possibility that is
Packaging was quite professional I must say. Apart from that, the battery doesn't heat up, not during charging and not while it was put to the test.
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I have not done an official minute test but I feel exactly the same about this battery. Price, packaging is good but not even close to 2000mah of use time under data usage. Standby time is pretty good but who cares since we use the phone for data or else you wouldn't have a touchscreen $500 device. I am not saying it was a waste of money since it is a second battery...but definitely not an extended battery.
Alcibiade said:
Received mine yesterday
So far so good (89% after 10 hours and I have push email)
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Does push use more battery?
mmafighter077 said:
Does push use more battery?
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yes.........................
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yes.........................
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Oh I dont know why but I thought it used more battery every time it connected to the internet every 15 to 30 minutes to check for email (what ever non-push is called). Well I was mistaken. Thanks. Guess thats a whole nother topic which I dont care enough to start..
I just purchased this battery btw. From my experience I purchased a 3rd party battery from china for my g1. I had no problems with the battery I could see a difference. It lasted at least 6 months until I got rid of the g1 for the tp2.
I bought the g1 extended battery on ebay for $13. It was the exact same battery that fommy.com was selling for $40. Im sure china is where most resellers get there items from but they probably slap sticker over the original and call it theirs.
I see this as cutting out the middle man and saving myself the cost.
i would definatelly never trust a battery that cheap, especially in something that:
a) is kept in a pocket (see pic :)
b) is ususlly left to charge over night.
something that happened to someone using a chineese no-brand extended battery in an HTC Touch Pro:
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got my battery from this seller...
Ok... I got my battery and the standby is better (which is a plus for me all by itself at $10) but it does get noticeably warmer and which is abit unnerving for me (with the exploding pocket thing happening )... I think this will be as a ok 2nd battery but I don't trust it unattended and will treat in as a disposable solution... Has anyone else had any issues with the temp of this battery being warmer that the norm... (oh and ps... who really puts there phone in their back pocket... thats crazy...)
dfspot said:
Ok... I got my battery and the standby is better (which is a plus for me all by itself at $10) but it does get noticeably warmer and which is abit unnerving for me (with the exploding pocket thing happening )... I think this will be as a ok 2nd battery but I don't trust it unattended and will treat in as a disposable solution... Has anyone else had any issues with the temp of this battery being warmer that the norm... (oh and ps... who really puts there phone in their back pocket... thats crazy...)
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id rather it exploded back there, than 3" from the family juwels......
10 days? try one month!!
o0adam0o said:
I purchased this like 10days ago... takes a while to get here... alot of people are purchang this and no complaints yet...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90763
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I purchased and they charged my credit card 11/27, here it is 12/28 and still no batteries. There is no tracking number for these when they were sent as they didn't let me know that the way I'd paid I couldn't get a tracking number.
What I don't understand is I get a lot of things from DealExtreme and they ship from China and it's always trackable for bulkrate shipping. So, what gives with this company?

So all those who got their rezound early, hows the battery?

As the title says I haven't seen anyone actually test the battery for a couple days, it's usually review and move on.
So how is it?
Well it hasn't been mentioned so it probably isn't worse than we expect it to be.
Also interested to know. Of course since this will be the first few days people have it, they'll be using it a ton so it may not be the best estimate on battery life but I would love to know an idea of how much to expect.
They haven't had time to calabrate yet.
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First charge with heavy use got greater than expected life. I will still buy an extended one, but thats cuz i hate charging. 7 hours of heavy use on 3g only.
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7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
con247 said:
7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
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yeah not to mention that after you root you can flash leaner kernels and ROM's. But we'll have to wait for development to pick up, I really hope we see some good developers here.
So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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DAMMIT I WANT!!! 3 more days...
I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
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I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
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I got mine yesterday and I can say it is about 25-30% better than a rooted thunderbolt....My logic says once rooted we will get really good battery life.
I am a heavy user and I can say I turned off fast boot and bump charged it 3 times on Thursday night. I gave it a heavy use all day on Friday.
Took it off the charger at 10 am around 8 pm I was on 35%. So that was 10 hours of heavy use and still had 35% left. If I was using the rooted bolt I would have been dead around 5:30 and a stock bolt...even sooner.
hope all these battery estimates are true, sounds like this will be my next phone!
Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network. Played about 1 hour worth of Pandora on high quality setting. A couple minutes of 4G Youtube. Tons of tinkering with games and downloading apps and playing around. Screen brightness was set to something like 30%. live wallpaper enabled. Weather and clock widget enabled. Data tracking widget enabled. Did a few seconds of video Skype too. I would say it was consistent use all day, but not necessarily heavy for most of the day.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
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Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
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I have very similar usage habits. Glad to hear that this seems to have relatively good battery life.
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Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network.
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Bad/No service areas will kill a battery so fast. My office is in a windowless reinforced concrete room inside a reinforced windowless room inside a reinforced building. (Yo dawg)
I get no service at all. If I leave the 3g on, phone won't make it past 5 hours. Turn the 3G/WiFi off and battery percent goes down a few points.
I need one!!!
Kellex over a Droid-Life has gotten just over 10 hours of normal usage (all in 4G) for the past couple of days. He also stated he is not a heavy user by any means.
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Seems like it isn't as bad as most thought it would be.
Battery - Caution
I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
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I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
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What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, so did you.
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Should I get this 2800mah battery, Anyone familiar with Qcell?

I'm kinda skeptical they are truly 2800mah with the same form factor....
No reviews....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B006SK5L2I
Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries
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Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries
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Do you notice the difference in the 2? Like does the qcell with 300mah more make a difference?
I have one; started using it yesterday. Haven't used it enough to notice a difference, but personally I doubt there is one. If it was so easy to fit 300mah (>10%!) extra capacity into a battery, why wouldn't Samsung have done it in the first place? Surely a 2800mah battery would be a better selling point than 2500mah.
I miss that battery testing web site where the guy stress-tested all the aftermarket batteries and showed how basically all of them were massively over-rated.
I have two OEM batteries (got one as part of the awesome Samsung portable battery charger) and I figured for $15 or so the Q-cell was worth trying. One of these days I'll do a run-down test and see if there's a difference. If there is, I'll buy 10 of them and then report back here how great they are.
I *love* this product:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...03&q_manufacturer=samsung&q_model=prod5530247
It doesn't charge the phone, but you can toss it in a bag, swap batteries mid-day and have enough juice to get through a long evening of speed tests and server management while out on the town.
I've never had a phone die on me mid day.
I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.
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I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.
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Mid day its that low? I go through my whole day and by the time I go to bed at 12 its at 40-60%.
Yes. I have 3 email accounts - 1 exchange and 2 IMAP (even though I set the intervals for IMAP to 1 and 2 hours), and I use the phone as a desktop replacement for answering emails, server management, and various other web-intensive functions. I lose 10-20% per hour while in use. Screen on auto brightness. Bluetooth is always on because I use a headset or a car link for voice calls, though I don't make a lot of voice calls. If I did my battery would be dead by noon every day. On voice calls my battery graph drops precipitously.
I am in a fringe LTE area, which I suspect doesn't help. Sometimes I get 1-2 bars of LTE, and most of the time I get 4 bars of non-LTE. Searching for signal and switching back and forth is probably not good for battery. Either that it's the time that it's on LTE that kills it. So I'm resigned to either swapping batteries mid-day or leaving the phone on a charger at various times throughout the day.
Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.
Thanks looking forward to the results.
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Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.
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Yes please do the test, that would be awesome.
Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Maybe try this widget?
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl=en
hausman said:
Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Don't they make apps that will drain the battery in a consistent way for comparison?
Actually here are some:
https://market.android.com/search?q=battery+benchmark&c=apps
Thanks...I'll look into those but I figure full brightness video is fine too.
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Test 1 is currently running. Fully charged Qcell 2800, started at 6:45am; as of approx. 9am (2h 12m of full screen video with GPS status running in the background) battery was 65%. I have the phone in flight mode to remove network connectivity/signal strength as a variable. Full results will be in tonight.
Well this isn't even close. I'm half tempted not to bother finishing the test. On test #2, OEM battery, after 2h 12m of video the OEM battery is at 78%. 78% vs 65%....that is HUGE. The OEM is winning by a mile. But for kicks I'll finish the test and post all the results/graphs.
"2800mAh" battery is more like 1600mAh
The results are much worse than I expected. And I notice that Amazon isn't even selling these batteries anymore, so that's something to take note of. I would imagine the data below would look familiar for any aftermarket battery sold at a cheap price (and possibly some sold for a not-cheap price).
Each battery was charged to 100% to start. I used the Samsung video player on full brightness (using the video player setting, not just the Android setting since the video player setting overrides the system). I played 3 movies on the Note during the rundown tests, in the same order. Mostly the Note sat on a corner of my desk playing with volume off; occasionally I stopped it to take a measurement or screenshot.
The "2800" battery lasted 5h 32m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was fairly linear, though it did accelerate a bit starting at about 25%. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was at 65%, after movie 2 (4h 15m cumulative) it was 30%, and did not make it through movie #3.
The OEM battery lasted 9h 35m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was also linear and remained essentially the same from 100 to 0. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was 78%, after movie 2 (4h 15m) it was 57%, after movie 3 (6h cumulative) it was 36% (the "2800" battery died during movie 3), and after movie 3 I went back and played movie 1 again (in full) and then started movie 1 AGAIN and got another ~90 minutes into it.
The difference is ridiculous. Since the "2800" battery was only $14, price per mAh is actually better than the OEM battery which is more than twice as expensive, but this thing is more like 1600mAh than 2800mAh. This isn't surprising to me, but it is good to quantify how terrible these knockoff batteries are. If I'd paid $20 or more for it I'd be angry, but given how cheap it was I'll toss it in the drawer and know I have a cheap 5-hour battery in addition to my two OEM batteries.
Since the "2800" battery has only had a couple of charge cycles, I will try to run the test again in a few days and see if more charge/discharge cycles make a difference. My OEM batteries haven't had many more, though, since I have two and I've been swapping between them on alternate days. I don't expect to gain 1200mAh.
Notice something else. When I rebooted for the 2nd test, bluetooth turned itself back on despite the Note staying in flight mode. I didn't notice that during the test, but that means that the OEM battery was actually under more load than the "2800" battery for the 9+ hour run.
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Buy Samsung batteries.
Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.
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Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.
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please report back !
So after using them for a few days, they actually seem pretty good.
I don't think I have the patience that Hausman (I actually want to call him 'haus) to do a more technical burn analysis (thanks 'Haus). Plus, I'm lazy. However, I've been using them instead of the Samsung OEM battery for the past few days and they seem to be transparent enough that I don't notice that a different battery is being used.
For $30 on Amazon, I'd tap that.

So far I love my new phone

okay well today I decided I wanted an upgrade, Im not eligible until Feb 1st (or a few days after) so I called tech support and was crying about how my upgrade is 2 weeks away and how i really want a new phone. so long story short, they directed me to my local verizon store after changing the date to today; an hour later home with the DNA.
and I am impressed.
I have the galaxy note 10.1 as my main tablet, and the Droid Dna is much snappier than that, and their specs are pretty much the same.
so as much as I "hate" htc, i bough the dna because i thought it looks cool, and im glad I did
and I dont hate HTC, im just one of those frustrated T-bolt users lol, and now my grandpa is rocking the t-bolt and loves it...if only he knew what android 4.0 was......
Nova launcher prime. That is all
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This phone is amazing! I just got mine as well.
time to start tinkering!
I love it
But the only issue I have is with wireless charging
It takes forever, and I have that nokia one, not sure of the official model number, but its the size of an apple mighty mouse and looks similar
So does anyone know why wireless charging takes so long?
And I do not have a case on it
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I love it
But the only issue I have is with wireless charging
It takes forever, and I have that nokia one, not sure of the official model number, but its the size of an apple mighty mouse and looks similar
So does anyone know why wireless charging takes so long?
And I do not have a case on it
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After using the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 for the past year+, the DNA just CREEPS when charging, both wired and wireless. It's really painful how long it takes to charge.
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After using the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 for the past year+, the DNA just CREEPS when charging, both wired and wireless. It's really painful how long it takes to charge.
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I came from an iphone and this phone charges really slow. But it also lasts me 15 hours average so Im cool with that haha.
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I can also agree that this phone charges slower than my Nexus but I notice no difference between wired and wireless charging.
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I came from an iphone and this phone charges really slow. But it also lasts me 15 hours average so Im cool with that haha.
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Really?
It only lasts about 7 for me:/
And this is day 2, so I jay take it back and exchange for another dna, as this could be a faulty battery, or sidegrade to a s3
Now heres what my usage is;
Im a college student, so my phone is off charger by 730 am (from the night before) and comes to school until about 3 or so.
In just those 8 hours, with wifi off, gps off, brightness set to auto, and only like 30 mins of screen on time; its at like 30-35
And 3 isnt a good time to die cause I have the rest of the day I need it, so is it me using it wrong or maybe bad battery?
Cause im debati on going to verizon tomorrow to replace it with a s3 or a new dna
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Really?
It only lasts about 7 for me:/
And this is day 2, so I jay take it back and exchange for another dna, as this could be a faulty battery, or sidegrade to a s3
Now heres what my usage is;
Im a college student, so my phone is off charger by 730 am (from the night before) and comes to school until about 3 or so.
In just those 8 hours, with wifi off, gps off, brightness set to auto, and only like 30 mins of screen on time; its at like 30-35
And 3 isnt a good time to die cause I have the rest of the day I need it, so is it me using it wrong or maybe bad battery?
Cause im debati on going to verizon tomorrow to replace it with a s3 or a new dna
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Bad battery. No way you should only be getting 30 minutes of on screen time!
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How is your signal at school?
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Really?
It only lasts about 7 for me:/
And this is day 2, so I jay take it back and exchange for another dna, as this could be a faulty battery, or sidegrade to a s3
Now heres what my usage is;
Im a college student, so my phone is off charger by 730 am (from the night before) and comes to school until about 3 or so.
In just those 8 hours, with wifi off, gps off, brightness set to auto, and only like 30 mins of screen on time; its at like 30-35
And 3 isnt a good time to die cause I have the rest of the day I need it, so is it me using it wrong or maybe bad battery?
Cause im debati on going to verizon tomorrow to replace it with a s3 or a new dna
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That is horrible batteryife. Unless you have horrible coverage where you are or your school is made of lead you should be at like 70 percent, not 30
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While not a huge factor, dont use auto brightness. Uses an unnecessary amount of battery. Just set it to where you want and leave it. But I agree that is terrible battery life. Im getting 15 hours average out of mine.
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I've had my Droid DNA about 3 weeks and I'm in love with it myself. I must suggest everyone get a charging pad as well, it seems to make the battery last longer from it's charge!
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I've had my Droid DNA about 3 weeks and I'm in love with it myself. I must suggest everyone get a charging pad as well, it seems to make the battery last longer from it's charge!
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why would that possibly prolong the battery life?
my signal at my school is maximum bars , and 4g.
and okay, ill be heading over to verizon in a few minutes to see what they wanna do
because the dna should get at least 12 hours of my "low-average" usage
and okay, ill try to get a new DNA and if I do ill put the brightness somewhere in the middle instead of auto brightness.
thanks all!
Try this app: Deep Sleep Battery Saver. It has worked wonders on my DNA's battery life. It turns off apps and the radios for the WiFi and Mobile Data when the device's screen goes dark. At set intervals, it'll wake up the radios and download email, etc. You can also whitelist apps that you do not want the app to shut off, like an alarm clock app or an SMS app. You will still receive your phone calls. As of this writing, I have 94% battery 5 hours after I disconnected the phone from the charger. I have made a few calls and texts. I haven't used data since I am at work and am in front of a computer the whole day.
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my signal at my school is maximum bars , and 4g.
and okay, ill be heading over to verizon in a few minutes to see what they wanna do
because the dna should get at least 12 hours of my "low-average" usage
and okay, ill try to get a new DNA and if I do ill put the brightness somewhere in the middle instead of auto brightness.
thanks all!
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I agree with what everyone else said - you probably had a defective unit. I use my DNA much more than you do, with Auto-sync on, Background data on, Mobile Network always on, Brightness at around 40%. In my daily commute, I total around an hour of time spent underground in a subway station with no signal. Given all this, with ~3-4 hours of screen-on time, my phone lasts me from 7:45 in the morning all the way through until ~12 midnight with usually at least 20% battery life left. I don't know if it means anything, but I charged my phone fully before turning it on for the first time (I didn't even let the Verizon store rep turn it on to activate it for me - I told him to not even open the box). If you're interested, this is what I did:
1. Made sure the phone was not turned on at any point before I took it out of the box.
2. Took the phone out of the box without turning it on and plugged it in.
3. Waited for the light to turn green, then unplugged it and let it sit for a few minutes.
4. Re-plugged the phone (the light would be orange again), and waited for it to turn green.
5. Repeated the unplugging and replugging process until the light turned green almost immediately upon plugging in.
6. Turned the phone on and did the activation and all that fun stuff.
7. Used the phone normally, and did not charge it until the battery was fully depleted (turned off by itself because battery was too low).
8. Fully charged the phone until it was full again (without turning it on).
9. Repeated the unplugging and replugging process again until the light turned green almost immediately upon plugging in.
10. Turned it on and started using it normally from that point on.
I'm a bit OCD with my phone battery But hey, it seems to have worked out well for me so I'm happy!
Juicedefender is the best free battery saver I have tried.. Just having it on the balanced pre-set made a difference.. After suffering through the Tbolt, Droid razr, and Gnex, I'm pretty happy with the battery
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Well I unfortunately went to the dark side, no not the company with a piece of fruit for a logo...samsung
And I wanted the dna but the lady told me that the battery life is normal for that phone cause of the big screen with 1080p and a quad core processor. I tried to disagree a little, but then she told me she has had the s3 since its launch and she hasnt had an issue yet. So I played with her phone, cause demo units are almost always bogged down. And I liked it.
So as of now, im off the htc bandwagon....but hopefully ill be back in about 8 months when my next line is available for upgrade

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