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i have just bought an archos 80 16gb turbo (although i aint sure which version yet) off ebay and i have a few questions.
i have read that all the units ship with 1gb ram and that archos have simply limited them to 512mb in the bios? if this is true is there anyway to unlock the rest of the memory?
i have also read there are no less than 3 different versions of the same device a 1ghz 512mb ram a turbo 1.2ghz 512mb ram and finally a turbo 1.5ghz 1gb ram. what is the easiest way to identify which one you have.
if one doesnt buy the codec pack and you have a file that isnt supported say a video encoded with ac3 can one simply use an alternative media player like vlc or mxplayer? i read that if you do use something else and hook it up to the tv via hdmi the media is not played back in full widescreen mode. can anyone confirm or deny this.
i see there are a few cooked up roms. is there anyway to save the system images and basically make a back up like one would using cwm on a phone?
i am looking forward to getting it but having briefly owned a 70it my expectations arent very high to be honest. i know that at the end of the day it is gonna be an all plastic affair with a dodgy screen and a usb port that breaks easily. however the price was cheap and for my needs (mainly gonna use it as a portable media player which has the bonus of a screen) it should hopefully do he job. who knows i may be pleasantly surprised.
time will tell. lets put it this way for the price paid i would rather be buying this than any other tablet out there at the moment despite all its flaws. it just has a raft of functionality more so than nigh on all the other tablets out there for comparable money.
if only they included full flat out codec support without asking for more money by unlocking the codecs then one couldnt ask for anything more from a budget device. thankfully devices also dont hold value very well making it (via the second hand market) a super cheap way to own an android tablet that is packed full of features... i can only hope i keep it for longer than the 70it!
If your device has 1GB ram, you will only see it if you update to ICS. Honeycomb only supports 512MB or less.
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Will you be putting down your Prime for a Nexus 10?
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Haha... had to see this thread coming... I already did... just hanging around here to advise people till I get my Nexus 10.... gonna buy it the day it's available...
I am keeping my prime, I refuse to jump on this redundant display bandwagon. We've gotten by fine for over 10 years with 1200x800 and going higher just consumes more power, for what? 720p is more than acceptable on a 10 inch device. Last I checked, there aren't a surplus of 1600p videos, and even if there were I would prefer to watch them on something larger than 10 inches so I could actually see the difference over 720p. The only way to see the difference is to hold it inches away and that's not how people watch movies.
As far as text rendering goes, it's no excuse to sacrifice battery life, overall performance, and spend more money.
I wish OEMs would have let apple go down this silly path on their own. Not every decision apple makes is effective. I wish OEMs would have focused those efforts on more power, stability, and other features, instead of just pulling a page from apple's playbook and upping the displays on devices that already have wonderful displays. As it stands my transformer prime already has a nicer panel than the laptop I'm typing this on, and desktop displays could make much more use out of better displays than any 10 inch tablet can.
The purpose 1600p tablets serve is to satisfy consumer dickmeasuring. "OH YOUR TABLET ISN'T 1600P IT'S NOT AS NICE AS THE IPAD!"
There are more effective routes OEMs could have taken to actually advance their products that isn't putting in overkill displays.
Agreed to #3. Android narcissism in Tech Specs's war. Will it benefit consumers? Yes. Cut-throat competition. What I hope is that Google won't be killing off other OEMs in the near future just so to use them as springboards to fight Apple. If so, then Google's advocacy of Cloud Storage may mean expensive onboard storage of us all.
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Agreed to #3. Android narcissism in Tech Specs's war. Will it benefit consumers? Yes. Cut-throat competition. What I hope is that Google won't be killing off other OEMs in the near future just so to use them as springboards to fight Apple. If so, then Google's advocacy of Cloud Storage may mean expensive onboard storage of us all.
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Not unless it gets a make over, it looks hideous! Seriously, what the hell were they thinking?
I was holding tough to my Prime hoping a fix was coming and that once it got JB all would be well.Bought myself a Galaxy S III a few weeks back and the Wife a Nexus 7 and they both run circles around my Prime.Really,its an embarrassment for a $500 tab to run like sh!t compared to a $200 tab and a smartphone.Not only web browsing but even flipping through menus and navigating the device is snappier than my Prime.The second I can get my hand on the Nexus 10,I'm dumping the Prime.. :good:
My Prime's still running like crap even after Jellybean and countless factory resets and even restoring the stock image. Mine is already on eBay and I'll be buying the Nexus 10 on release day. I welcome nearly instant updates from Google.
Maybe the nexus 7... I like the prime but I left a sgt7 for it and its just not as portable... But to answer the question, no I won't go to the nexus 10.
16 gb or even 32gb isn't enough I have like 28gb of apps alone. Google is retarded
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im pretty sure that the nexus is much better than the prime (in some cases) but my questions is this, how will the speed differ in which the prime is quad core tegra 3 and the nexus is DUAL core with the new Cortex A-15 chip. For example apple used the cortex chips like the a-5 in their devices and the devices are pretty fluid so i wonder how this will put up and if it would be ridiculously lag-free faster....0.o
Nah for the time being ill stick with my prime I don't have any real issues. JB is fast and I can do everything I want on the tablet. I think even if I was able to get the Nexus 10 the time it would take for me to sell my prime and get up the rest of the cash if I couldnt sell it for 400, a newer nexus 10 will come out. So if anything ill save and wait. I have a sgs3 galaxy nexus and Tprime im good for another year or so on devices
No Nexus 10 for me but I just ordered a ipad mini. Found the 10 inch units too heavy while the display was too small on the 7 inch. But the mini was perfect in that regard. Lighter than any 7 inch but with screen massively bigger. And no more wasted space due to the on screen Android virtual buttons bar.
That was my plan until I saw the pics and specs. No microsd. $500 for only 32gb. No working for me. Just got to wait for anither tablet to come out. For those that dont think a higher resolution makes a difference. It does. I have the new ipad and the screen is beautiful. Makes reading and using it much easier on the eyes.
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when the nexus10 is released in the netherlands or available for normal prices abroad i will surely switch to the nexus10. samsung is the way to go! also waiting for a good keyboard case/addon for the nexus 10.
after 2 asus products, 6 rma's and still a laggy product im sick and tired of asus.... and sick and tired of nvidia trying to get world domination with their closed source tegra-only marketing tricks...
for the moment i can wait a bit, cm10 unofficial with bfq scheduler works pretty decent but still lockups due to slow storage. i hate lags!
Does the increase resolution on the Nexus 10 lend itself to better handwriting recognition?
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im pretty sure that the nexus is much better than the prime (in some cases) but my questions is this, how will the speed differ in which the prime is quad core tegra 3 and the nexus is DUAL core with the new Cortex A-15 chip. For example apple used the cortex chips like the a-5 in their devices and the devices are pretty fluid so i wonder how this will put up and if it would be ridiculously lag-free faster....0.o
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Apple devices are fluid because they don't properly multi task and don't have widgets and live wallpapers running on them, just a bunch of apps/folders cluttering up the screen. Clear your screens and only run one thing at once on Android and it might be as smooth but will it be any where near as fun?
I think the Nexus 10 has a rediculous resolution. I don't even have that on my pc with 24" monitor so why bother on a 10" tablet?
I reallly, really like my Prime so will be keeping it but I also have a 32GB Nexus 7 on the way for when I need something a little smaller and more portable.
I'm one of the lucky ones who has a nearly flawless Prime. Yea the WiFi could be better but I mainly just tether from my phone so it's not big issue. My TF201 of course has more mods on it than I could count (scripts mainly) and combined with a 1.8ghz OC it's faster than ever. The Nexus devices are great but honestly the look of the Nexus 10 doesn't please me even with the ridiculously high screen res.
N10 wins just on the fact that the software will be made by Google and will be snappy and responsive, not laggy and crappy. I just sold my Prime and will be getting an N10. Never again with Asus...never again.
Two things stop me from even thinking about it:
- no sd card slot
- no keyboard dock
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htcplussony said:
No Nexus 10 for me but I just ordered a ipad mini. Found the 10 inch units too heavy while the display was too small on the 7 inch. But the mini was perfect in that regard. Lighter than any 7 inch but with screen massively bigger. And no more wasted space due to the on screen Android virtual buttons bar.
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Seriously? An iPad mini? Basicly an iPad 2 shrunked to 8" for the price of one and a half Nexus 7?
Tough decision...
nabil alami said:
im pretty sure that the nexus is much better than the prime (in some cases) but my questions is this, how will the speed differ in which the prime is quad core tegra 3 and the nexus is DUAL core with the new Cortex A-15 chip. For example apple used the cortex chips like the a-5 in their devices and the devices are pretty fluid so i wonder how this will put up and if it would be ridiculously lag-free faster....0.o
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The Exynos 5250 is much faster than Tegra 3. Also the Nexus 10 software comes straight from Google, so no lag and strange bugs. Yeah Prime is better looking but in my opinion usability is more important. Also Samsung devices dont have some cheap and slow internal memory.
I will be moving to the new Archos line as soon as it is released so I need your guys help on which one to move to. The reason I ask is because I know that the 80 XS will have a rockchip processor while the 101XS will have a TI OMAP 4470. Which will be better in terms of development as well. I would really your opinions. Thanks
They both are very low end. Not very good for development considering not a lot of development for it. You should consider the nexus 7 or nexus 10 instead.
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Yea I know Nexus is better 100% of the time for development. No argument there. But I don't really like the fact that non of those had sd card slots. I really like Archos new design. Idk, I like having something different and Archos is just that. When I say development I mean that which will get more. I know that compared to other devices there is extremely little going on here. I guess it might all come down to which one Surdu supports lol. Anyone has any suggestions?
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Yea I know Nexus is better 100% of the time for development. No argument there. But I don't really like the fact that non of those had sd card slots. I really like Archos new design. Idk, I like having something different and Archos is just that. When I say development I mean that which will get more. I know that compared to other devices there is extremely little going on here. I guess it might all come down to which one Surdu supports lol. Anyone has any suggestions?
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I have the 80g9. The form factor is the same as the 8xs. I love the size of it. Typing on screen is easy and its just the right size for most every task. I find the larger tablets cumbersome to hold for longer periods.
I'm anxiously waiting for the 8xs here in n/a.
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Yea. The 80g9 was the perfect midpoint. I still want to know which would perform better though. TI OMAP4470 or rk3066
What are you doing with your tablet? From the videos I have seen, the new archos performs smooth and fast. The 8" I have not seen in action yet. But having my 80g9 for awhile now and running serdu's clean and fast rom, the only issue now is the amount of ram in my tablet. 512mb fills up quickly and a reboot is needed every so often to keep the tablet fast. You know when you have your ram filled as the tablet is slow to react.
A non issue with the tablets with 1 gb of ram.
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oh okay good. I also have 512mb Ram and it's killing me lol. My only other issue now is the keyboard size in the cover board. An 8 inch keyboard might be too small. Did you check that out by chance? Surdu's Clean and Fast is the best, It's what I'm running now.
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oh okay good. I also have 512mb Ram and it's killing me lol. My only other issue now is the keyboard size in the cover board. An 8 inch keyboard might be too small. Did you check that out by chance? Surdu's Clean and Fast is the best, It's what I'm running now.
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I have not seen either gen 10 device.
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It usually just comes down to what you are looking for. a bigger screen in the 101(10.1 inch) or more portability in the 80(8 inch) all preferences
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It usually just comes down to what you are looking for. a bigger screen in the 101(10.1 inch) or more portability in the 80(8 inch) all preferences
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I consider both portable. I'm used to lugging around a 17" Acer notebook. I find the 8" form factor much nicer to use from an ergo standpoint. Easy to type in portrait and still a big enough screen to do other things.
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I bought the 80 g9 because of the form factor as well. I'm not too sure about the 8 inch this time around though. That is because of the bezel size, it is way too big.
For those of you who didn't see it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hWuXa7BTIUM
What do you guys think?
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I bought the 80 g9 because of the form factor as well. I'm not too sure about the 8 inch this time around though. That is because of the bezel size, it is way too big.
For those of you who didn't see it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hWuXa7BTIUM
What do you guys think?
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Its still small enough to reach the entire screen with your two thumbs. That's all that matters.
As you can see its more portable than the 10xs too
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Archos 80XS use Rockchip 3066 from China! => 101XS better ( use TI OMAP 4470 )
I don't see the difference if it originates from China. Other than cheaper production costs. Not sure if TI makes there chips from USA though. I just honestly don't see your point on how that makes the 101XS better because of that. If you care to explain how that would be great. Thanks for the response though, I appreciate it.
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I don't see the difference if it originates from China. Other than cheaper production costs. Not sure if TI makes there chips from USA though. I just honestly don't see your point on how that makes the 101XS better because of that. If you care to explain how that would be great. Thanks for the response though, I appreciate it.
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I suspect that he was referring to the fact that there is a stereotype (not entirely undeserved it must be said) that RockChip processors are of a lower quality and performace level than their TI, Qualcomm, etc. alternatives.
As of now there is less of a quality and performace gap (so far as I am aware) between RockChip CPUs and the CPUs of other manufacturers. I doubt very much if you would notice any performance issues if you went the 80xs over the 101xs, but (as you can tell if you've looked at the dev section for these devices) there is slightly more developer activity for the 101xs, so that may say something about the processor.
Could I enquire which of the two devices you chose in the end? (Assuming you chose either of them, of course.)
I am in the market for an android tablet but seeing as times are hard I can only really stretch to one of the following two models...
Sumvision Cyclone Voyager 7"
B&N Nook HD
Please can someone list the pro's and con's for each device bearing in mind that I enjoy tinkering with custom ROMs and the such but ultimately would like to end up with a tablet that works well for general day to day browsing, YouTube and a little gaming.
Thanks in advance!
PS. If this is posted in the wrong location then I am very sorry, and hopefully one of the mods can move it for me!
Check out the specs on Hisense Sero 7. It compares well with the original Nexus7 and cost around $130 at Walmart.
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I suggest you to buy tablets with screen bigger then 8", I think 7" is to small, is more like a big phone not a tablet.
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I suggest you buy PIPO M8Pro.
I would like you to wait for few more months..........it is because, in a few months, the market will be flooded with highly powerful, low cost MediaTek Quad-Core MT8135 - specially designed for tablets. This is set to change the market. Even the upcoming kindle will use it.
Best buy = 7+ inch HD display, MT8135 Quad core processor, 2GB RAM @ around 120-150$ !
MediaTek, with its new MT8135, among the first SoC designers to have adopted the ground-breaking big.LITTLE processing technology which is designed to address the energy and thermal issues associated with multicore system-on-chip (SoC) solutions. ARM big.LITTLE technology enables the creation of dual-cluster SoCs, with one high-performance (big) cluster for processing intensive tasks and a highly energy-efficient (LITTLE) cluster for executing routine functions.
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I suggest you to buy tablets with screen bigger then 8", I think 7" is to small, is more like a big phone not a tablet.
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but if screen size is bigger than 8", it is inconvenient to carry.
i currently own a asus transformer tf700 which has serious i/o memory lag issues that require monthly flashing. i noticed some people seem to have the same problem with n9. whats the general consensus around here?
Get a Surface Pro 4 instead of Nexus 9. N9 let me down. It was laggy when on 5.0, 5.1 solved that. And recently, my N9 shows some signs of screen mess and buzzing when battery is low. Not sure if it's related to software or hardware.
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it really depends on what you want to do with it
Watch movies? get a tablet with a 16:9 resolution instead, this one is 4:3
just some reading? this tablet will do fine
Use it for the occasional stuff like word documents, some games etc? it will still do fine
Serious multitasking? dont even bother with this one
hate redraws or application closing due to running low on memory? again dont bother with this one.
All in all i have the device since it came out, android 6 improved battery life some but honestly its just 1 big disappointment device.
As for the post above me, the N9 and Surface Pro 4 aren't even comparable with each other, spec and price wise. (besides the fact its also 2 different OS systems)
All things aside, the biggest downfall for this device is its 2gb of memory and its rather crappy dual core socket. (wich performs exceptionally well in single-thread, just dont expect anything that has to do with multithread and multitasking)
as for the memory, with the amount of pixels this device has you will average 500~600mb ram just to load most assets. they really should have given this device 3gb memory.
GiantAxe said:
it really depends on what you want to do with it
Watch movies? get a tablet with a 16:9 resolution instead, this one is 4:3
just some reading? this tablet will do fine
Use it for the occasional stuff like word documents, some games etc? it will still do fine
Serious multitasking? dont even bother with this one
hate redraws or application closing due to running low on memory? again dont bother with this one.
All in all i have the device since it came out, android 6 improved battery life some but honestly its just 1 big disappointment device.
As for the post above me, the N9 and Surface Pro 4 aren't even comparable with each other, spec and price wise. (besides the fact its also 2 different OS systems)
All things aside, the biggest downfall for this device is its 2gb of memory and its rather crappy dual core socket. (wich performs exceptionally well in single-thread, just dont expect anything that has to do with multithread and multitasking)
as for the memory, with the amount of pixels this device has you will average 500~600mb ram just to load most assets. they really should have given this device 3gb memory.
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Yea i just bought for the black Friday sale 279$ for 32gig because 16 gig is just to small. But after looking thru a lot of these threads and seeing all the issues people have I'm seriously considering returning it. I have had every nexus device since the Galaxy nexus and im blown away by how many issues this device has and by the lack of development and just lack of general interest on the forums. 100$ more and i can get the Samsung tab S2 8.4, i actually really don't like Samsung design but with the lack of quality android tablets its either this or a ipad.
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Yea i just bought for the black Friday sale 279$ for 32gig because 16 gig is just to small. But after looking thru a lot of these threads and seeing all the issues people have I'm seriously considering returning it. I have had every nexus device since the Galaxy nexus and im blown away by how many issues this device has and by the lack of development and just lack of general interest on the forums. 100$ more and i can get the Samsung tab S2 8.4, i actually really don't like Samsung design but with the lack of quality android tablets its either this or a ipad.
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we also own a Samsung tab here wich has 3gb of memory, but frankly that device performance is even worse then the n9 due to samsungs bloatware. The only reason for a Samsung tab would be to buy it then flash cyanogenmod on it on something.
But yes, I do agree there is rather a lack of quality android tablets. tbh I might consider just buying a Surface tablet next, they start out at 500 bucks i believe, wich is like 50 bucks more then what i paid for the N9.
The reason I went with nexus devices is purely because they are as stock and bloatware free as possible, but the N9 in general is just bad. my 2012 N5 still performs fine.
We just have to hope for a N9 2016 or something with a quad core cpu (and that not being a nvidia tegra) and 3 or 4gb of memory.
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we also own a Samsung tab here wich has 3gb of memory, but frankly that device performance is even worse then the n9 due to samsungs bloatware. The only reason for a Samsung tab would be to buy it then flash cyanogenmod on it on something.
But yes, I do agree there is rather a lack of quality android tablets. tbh I might consider just buying a Surface tablet next, they start out at 500 bucks i believe, wich is like 50 bucks more then what i paid for the N9.
The reason I went with nexus devices is purely because they are as stock and bloatware free as possible, but the N9 in general is just bad. my 2012 N5 still performs fine.
We just have to hope for a N9 2016 or something with a quad core cpu (and that not being a nvidia tegra) and 3 or 4gb of memory.
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Yea thats why i went nexus too i have a lot of device's but nothing beats a stock version of Android with quick updates, i cant stand samsung bloatware, TouchWiz but it's hardware is the best out there. As far as the surface unless it's a work devise i wouldn't recommend it. I actually have a Dell Venue pro with Windows 10, full version has a beautiful screen fast processor actually quite beautiful tablet . But windows ten as a tablet is terrible if you are just using it to read and watch movies and basic stuff, especially if you are tied into the Google ecosystem. The lack of quality apps just makes it worse there are work arounds for most things but they can usually **** up and generally at the most importune times. I really tried to make it work cause i like the tablet but i just cant, that's why i got this but I'm weighing my options now after reading thru these forums.
I'm also looking to get this tablet haven't had a tablet since 2013 how are the tablet apps for Android?
GiantAxe said:
it really depends on what you want to do with it
Watch movies? get a tablet with a 16:9 resolution instead, this one is 4:3
just some reading? this tablet will do fine
Use it for the occasional stuff like word documents, some games etc? it will still do fine
Serious multitasking? dont even bother with this one
hate redraws or application closing due to running low on memory? again dont bother with this one.
All in all i have the device since it came out, android 6 improved battery life some but honestly its just 1 big disappointment device.
As for the post above me, the N9 and Surface Pro 4 aren't even comparable with each other, spec and price wise. (besides the fact its also 2 different OS systems)
All things aside, the biggest downfall for this device is its 2gb of memory and its rather crappy dual core socket. (wich performs exceptionally well in single-thread, just dont expect anything that has to do with multithread and multitasking)
as for the memory, with the amount of pixels this device has you will average 500~600mb ram just to load most assets. they really should have given this device 3gb memory.
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Dual core and 2GB RAM works very well for iOS. I don't expect that to mean much but there's no excuse for the performance issues really as a Nexus device is already stripped to bare essentials.
Why do I have no issues whatsoever with my n9!
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