Real or fake? Anyone have any idea? - Xperia Z3v General

How to Root your Android Sony Xperia Z3v Easily ?: https://youtu.be/qH89pJLWfKg

Anyone tried this?

It won't work. That video was published in December of 2014. We would know if it worked or not. The thing is that this phone is not an international phone. You will definitely hear about root from here before anywhere else.

If you want to see anything for a root, I suggest you donate for the bounty thread to raise it up.

GigaSPX said:
If you want to see anything for a root, I suggest you donate for the bounty thread to raise it up.
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Already did donate, just something I found on the Web and figured what the hell maybe it's something worth looking at.

Did you try this. I don't think it work

I've spoken to zxz0O0 and he recommended me to try his latest tool since he was able to unlock the D6616 Z3 for T-Mobile. I attempted it but it doesn't work with our D6708, and I'm cooperating with what he'll say for the support.

GigaSPX said:
I've spoken to zxz0O0 and he recommended me to try his latest tool since he was able to unlock the D6616 Z3 for T-Mobile. I attempted it but it doesn't work with our D6708, and I'm cooperating with what he'll say for the support.
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It works using the shipped firmware .376. I just confirmed with root checker. (@Zxz0O0's method is the one I'm referring to)

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Subscribe thread for root or unlocked bootloader carrier locked

As the title say's I'm creating this thread for all us carrier locked Xperia S owners to subscribe too. this way we can subscribe to this thread and keep it updated on the latest news of root or unlocking the boot-loader.
YOU CAN'T ROOT LOCKED BOOTLOADERS
I will post new info when I hear something new. Feel free to add news as well. Lets just keep the comments about the topic. No need to fill it with junk that doesn't belong here.
Maybe true maybe not. Silly tech support, they don't have clue. Should have known better.
I talked with sony today and they assured me my rogers branded phone will be getting ICS and the updates will be around may 18th. I kept telling them if my phone is branded to rogers it can't happen as rogers needs time to add their apps and stuff. again sony said they are doing it different with the xperia s and all phones will be getting ics at the same time. may 18th.
so i don't believe them but maybe if more people call we can get a better idea when it's coming.
If you call and hear something different please share in the thread.
Now can someone stick this please? And maybe write YOU CAN'T ROOT LOCKED BOOTLOADERS in big red letters in the OP.
Sent from my LT26i using XDA
Sony does not have to know about everything that my phone is root !!! give them imei no warranty
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Now can someone stick this please? And maybe write YOU CAN'T ROOT LOCKED BOOTLOADERS in big red letters in the OP.
Sent from my LT26i using XDA
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Don't you think that will change in the future?
That's what the thread is for, news about unlocking un-unlockable bootloaders or rooting without it.
I needed this thread XD Thank you mate, Im subscribed now to know inmediatly when I will be able to root my phone!
however it is a bit annoying If this thread is filled with useless posts, just as my one at this moment. there isnt any way to subscribe only to editions in the first message?
I just thought I would shed a little ray of hope here
Apparently there is a way to root with locked bootloaders for official ICS on the Arc S, Ray and Neo V
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600728
So maybe when we get ICS we can root without unlocking the bootloader
Yeah, the problem is when we will get ICS....we want root now! xD
Got phone from Orange, locked to Orange. Locked bootloader.
Asked for unlock key, threatened to leave.
Received unlock key. Phone unlocked. Surprise - Bootloader unlockable after restart *yipee*
Left Orange for good.
Ok I just had a thought and would like your feedback.
I have my xperia sim unlocked.
what im thinking is putting in my none rogers sim,(my other sim is smart, go Philippines).
then updating my phone with sony software and when it say's i have the latest and ask if i want to repair it. select yes and maybe it will the n download another version of the software because it knows the phone is sim unlocked.
what yeah think? would that be even possible to have the software change the ability to have the phone say yes to unlock boot loader.
Not a chance!!!
The bootloader is as it says
"a bootloader"
That means it is a seperate part of the operating system.
When you update/repair your normal running rom/operating system that is the ONLY part that gets updated/repaired.
Your bootloader is never touched
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium
In and suscribed Thanks for the thread!
I managed to purposely get into qhsusb_dload, any way dump the contents of whatever I can?
Device manager now displays it as SEMC Flash Device.
Matt1408 said:
I managed to purposely get into qhsusb_dload, any way dump the contents of whatever I can?
Device manager now displays it as SEMC Flash Device.
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Cool, what does it mean for us looked down users?
Replied from my little computer, Xperia S.
Not much, since I have no idea what to do with it... it's basically that I found the "test point" pin, and that it still behaves in the same way as it does the the 2011 locked Sony phones.
However, that's the simple part, now we need to wait for the unlock tokens to become available or however the old way worked on the old phones.
UPD: no, it looks like the permissions are correct on stock rom, so it won't work.
K900 said:
There's the new exploit thing for the HTC One X, it might work on the XPS too, at least I couldn't find the reason it wouldn't. However my device is unlocked so I can't test it without relocking. It should be safe though. Anyone who wants to test is welcome to #xperia_s_root_test @ irc.esper.net
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I'd test it out, what do I need to do?
MattNoblett said:
I'd test it out, what do I need to do?
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Please join the IRC channel.
K900 said:
Please join the IRC channel.
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I've joined
This sounds interesting, keep us posted of any news.
Replied from my little computer, Xperia S.
The thread is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167
Looks interesting and really having to hold my self back from testing it as is
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium

[Q&A][INFO] - General Discussion Thread

General Discussion Thread
This thread is intended for any Xperia /android related talk.
If your going to post info post a link to the source.
Feel free to ask questions, i can happily (try to) answer them.
(e.g noise canceling, what breaks with Ub and what doesent, etc any common myth of Z2)
Feel free to post batery life statistics, benchmarks, performance information, rom information, anything realy.
feel free to even fire off your off topic cannons here if you need or want.
:banned topics:
Sony Lollipop Update being late
Lollipop update being late
Whats better and whats not better
Late updates
2nd reserve
3rd reserve ^^
I do have a question that I cannot find an answer for;
Does the Sony RIC do any other protection besides preventing /system writeability?
Knutselmaaster said:
I do have a question that I cannot find an answer for;
Does the Sony RIC do any other protection besides preventing /system writeability?
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It doesnt seem so
It opens the ability to writing on system via root, so its only a problem if you accidentaly hit grant on supersu (or have grant by default)
Thanks.
I'm currently using the file explorer that is in the recovery but that really is no permanent solution as I need to reboot each time I have to work in /system and no other app can be used.
If there is no safety risk I will proceed disabling RIC then.
Anyone know if D6503 will work in Jamaica? I'm travelling to Jamaica in April and am debating between buying a travel pack through Fido or just buying a prepaid Sim card in Jamaica and throwing it in the phone. Any information is appreciated. Thanks
bdithug said:
Anyone know if D6503 will work in Jamaica? I'm travelling to Jamaica in April and am debating between buying a travel pack through Fido or just buying a prepaid Sim card in Jamaica and throwing it in the phone. Any information is appreciated. Thanks
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im certain the phone will work in 2G\3G but thats as far as my knowlage goes
i know nothing of simcards or anything of such in this case
Envious_Data said:
im certain the phone will work in 2G\3G but thats as far as my knowlage goes
i know nothing of simcards or anything of such in this case
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Thanks. I'll email one of their major carriers down there to get pricing and compatibility information.
bdithug said:
Anyone know if D6503 will work in Jamaica? I'm travelling to Jamaica in April and am debating between buying a travel pack through Fido or just buying a prepaid Sim card in Jamaica and throwing it in the phone. Any information is appreciated. Thanks
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Try this http://www.willmyphonework.net/
IreshS said:
Try this http://www.willmyphonework.net/
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Thank you, that's huge!
What's a good replacement stock camera app for CM12? Anyone knows how to record in 4K?
Duilio Patiño said:
What's a good replacement stock camera app for CM12? Anyone knows how to record in 4K?
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in CM12 i recomend open camera, 4k recording doesnt work at all in cm12 and cm11 from my testing
Hmmm.... My Xperia Lounge became Gold :laugh:
Hi guys,
I recently bought the Z2 and have some questions related with root and unlocked bootloader etc.
I previously had Xperia SL, so I have something or an idea about something
Just wanted to know few things.
1) what happens if I root or unlock bootloader? Is there any feature loss.
2) can I lock the bootloader again once unlocked?
3) can I downgrade my os version. I am on 4.4.2 now.
I know lollipop is coming but I will love to use the existing Roms even after upgrade.
Thanks
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Free mobile app
Th3DON said:
Hi guys,
I recently bought the Z2 and have some questions related with root and unlocked bootloader etc.
I previously had Xperia SL, so I have something or an idea about something
Just wanted to know few things.
1) what happens if I root or unlock bootloader? Is there any feature loss.
2) can I lock the bootloader again once unlocked?
3) can I downgrade my os version. I am on 4.4.2 now.
I know lollipop is coming but I will love to use the existing Roms even after upgrade.
Thanks
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Free mobile app
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1. X-reality, Supervivid and bionz stop working aswell as some playstation services.
2. yes
3. yes using flashtool with respective FTF
Anyone Taken interest to Z4 Tablet?
i thought it looked quite cool.
Looks really thin and portable.
Might get it as an upgrade to my ipad 3.
Xperia Z2 D6503 with AndroPlus Kernel

[BOUNTY] Z3v D6708 - Bootloader Unlock

Sony XPERIA Z3v D6708
Intro
First, thanks to Pyres for the original Z3 root bounty thread, myself for the Z3v root bounty thread , and tuzonghua for the D6116 root bounty thread , our similarly mistreated sister device. As you all know, the root method created by zxz0O0 has long since granted us Verizon users root on our devices. But it's time we make a new bounty. The last hoorah for our poor little Z3v -- bootlader unlock.
Objective
With root achieved, the main objective of the bounty is to achieve bootloader unlock on the Z3v which, given the fact that Verizon has yet to release Lollipop OTA Verizon took this long to release 5.1.1, and will probably never release Marshmallow, would mean a great deal to us Z3v owners who want to run custom ROMs.
Claiming requirements - Bootloader
In order to claim this bounty, you will need to fulfill each and every one of this points (2 is optional but helpful):
1. Be the first person to create or find a method to unlock the bootloader on this device in any form;
2. BONUS Prove that the TA partition can also be backed up, and later restored with little issue, in order to maintain some Sony features that would be otherwise be lost if accidentally tampered with;
2. Give proof of point #1/#2 by posting an adequate quantity of screenshots to illustrate it, together with step by step instructions, in a fashion such that everyone can follow them and reproduce the exploit;
3. Wait for at least 10% of pledgers (fastest quorum achieved between per capita and per pecunia criteria*) to give confirmation about the method functionality;
4. Claim your bounty via PM from pledgers.
*i.e. the fastest between 10% of the number of people and 10% of the amount of money pledged as bounty.
Payment will be processed between each member and the bounty collector via PM on an individual basis.
List of Pledges
1. er1c1996 - $20.00
2. MGSBigBoss - $40.00
3. glasslung - $20.00
4. RoyalDrew - $20.00
5. ktnemec - $10.00
6. AddictedToGlass - $20.00
Total Pledge: $130.00
Rules of this bounty thread
- Please note before making a post in the thread please refer to the below list to see if your post will be acceptable. If it is not part of this list, your post will be reported and you may risk getting an infraction as per forum moderators.
- Please note you may not make any specific restrictions or requirements that aren't listed in the OP. By making a post with your contribution price you are agreeing to paying out based on all terms listed in OP only and nowhere else.
- Please be advised that if Sony is to release an official method of rooting without unlocking the bootloader or restoring TA partitions lost by officially unlocking the bootloader (extremely unlikely but must be accounted for) prior to any member of XDA's submission, this bounty automatically becomes invalidated.
- Please do not PM a pledge, for it will not be counted.
List of Acceptable Posts:
- New bounty submission or increase of current bounty;
- Questions or assistance in development of recovery or bootloader unlock method;
- Questions and answers regarding bootloaders on this device;
- Questions and answers regarding the nature of lockdown on this device;
- Questions and answers regarding kernel and bootloader-related exploits;
- Any kind of updates about unfinished or still work-in-progress methods that would at the moment of posting be unfit for fulfilling the bounty;
- Bounty's fulfillment.
I will start the bounty with $20.00.
I'll add $40
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I will add $20
An update for those of you who are interested, there is a currently unknown but apparently reputable source who has achieved a bootloader unlock (on a single device in a very specific case.) This user is working with GigaSPX but I will at this time not disclose any other details (I'll leave it ot him if he wants to say anything else about it.) Stay tuned, this is going to get real interesting soon enough...
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An update for those of you who are interested, there is a currently unknown but apparently reputable source who has achieved a bootloader unlock (on a single device in a very specific case.) This user is working with GigaSPX but I will at this time not disclose any other details (I'll leave it ot him if he wants to say anything else about it.) Stay tuned, this is going to get real interesting soon enough...
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start pledging if you want this its not going to be free as it will take some work and possible a tool to make it work with each device.
I'll pledge $20
I will pledge $10.
I'm in for $20 bucks.
Updated pledges.
I was reading about rooting a philips i think or panasonic android tablet . Someone mentioned that their bl is locked on it, and someone else said they had gone into some file with adb i think and unlocked thier bootloader manualy in adb. Has anyone tried anythig similar with the z3v. Im sorry for the lack of details , i will have to look that up again and see if i can get more info to explain it better. And also im sorry if this responce is not right for this bounty thread.
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Ok, what i meant was. Has anyone used adb, and fastboot. They did that on some forum i was readig in and then typed command in fastboot "fastboot oem unlock". Then went bback a menu or so and there was an unlock button at that point that they hit and it unlocked .Im pretty sure this has been tried, but wanted to mention it to make sure it wasnt an option with our z3v.
Samwest1 said:
I was reading about rooting a philips i think or panasonic android tablet . Someone mentioned that their bl is locked on it, and someone else said they had gone into some file with adb i think and unlocked thier bootloader manualy in adb. Has anyone tried anythig similar with the z3v. Im sorry for the lack of details , i will have to look that up again and see if i can get more info to explain it better. And also im sorry if this responce is not right for this bounty thread.
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Ok, what i meant was. Has anyone used adb, and fastboot. They did that on some forum i was readig in and then typed command in fastboot "fastboot oem unlock". Then went bback a menu or so and there was an unlock button at that point that they hit and it unlocked .Im pretty sure this has been tried, but wanted to mention it to make sure it wasnt an option with our z3v.
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That is the standard way to unlock the bootloader and the way to officially unlock devices that have it allowed. However, some xperia devices and all Z3v have this blocked. The point of this thread is to find an unofficial way to unlock and bypass the official block on this.
Oh, ok. I didn't know that was the normal way it was done. I had just read about it and thought u guys would kno about it but maybe not so i wanted to make sure.
I think I'd pitch a few bucks in if we can get interest again. This thing would be just about perfect with custom roms. Making do with Root and Xposed for now.
Maybe a big $100 bounty if someone throws something together in a month from now.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z3v using XDA Labs
thals1992 said:
I think I'd pitch a few bucks in if we can get interest again. This thing would be just about perfect with custom roms. Making do with Root and Xposed for now.
Maybe a big $100 bounty if someone throws something together in a month from now.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z3v using XDA Labs
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This phone could only go so far with how things are going. I'm almost making my days with his phone numbered because of how much appeal the Galaxy S7 Edge is to me. D:
The only developers for this phone are either really busy or this is just too tough to crack without getting real help from expert developers from XDA.
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This phone could only go so far with how things are going. I'm almost making my days with his phone numbered because of how much appeal the Galaxy S7 Edge is to me. D:
The only developers for this phone are either really busy or this is just too tough to crack without getting real help from expert developers from XDA.
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so this is now Impossible due to the kernel in 5.1.1 the kernel was set to debug in 5.0.2 and now they added some extra crap to 5.1.1 so even if u revert u still have that addition to your kernel and zachpope and i have upgraded so there's no way to test it and we couldn't have it, so what would be the point. I'm assuming most of you have upgraded to 5.1.1 also. It was a lot of work anyway and we flashed z3 ROMs they didn't work it would have been nice to try a z2 ROM before we lost this as it may have worked.
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so this is now Impossible due to the kernel in 5.1.1 the kernel was set to debug in 5.0.2 and now they added some extra crap to 5.1.1 so even if u revert u still have that addition to your kernel and zachpope and i have upgraded so there's no way to test it and we couldn't have it, so what would be the point. I'm assuming most of you have upgraded to 5.1.1 also. It was a lot of work anyway and we flashed z3 ROMs they didn't work it would have been nice to try a z2 ROM before we lost this as it may have worked.
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Well holy crap. That's already pushed my desire to get the S7 Edge now. Verizon really hates us Z3v buyers.
GigaSPX said:
Well holy crap. That's already pushed my desire to get the S7 Edge now. Verizon really hates us Z3v buyers.
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you might want to wait a few months for development and root. And yes Verizon hates us although this could have been the same with the z3, it just took 10 months longer to get 5.1.1 I'm not sure. The only phone this bootloader thing could be useful for to my knowledge would be the guys stuck on 5.0.2 with T-Mobile if they are still stuck on 5.0.2. And again it was a lot of work and kinda useless for our z3v =z2/z3 hybrid.
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you might want to wait a few months for development and root. And yes Verizon hates us although this could have been the same with the z3, it just took 10 months longer to get 5.1.1 I'm not sure. The only phone this bootloader thing could be useful for to my knowledge would be the guys stuck on 5.0.2 with T-Mobile if they are still stuck on 5.0.2. And again it was a lot of work and kinda useless for our z3v =z2/z3 hybrid.
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Wait for development of the S7/Edge? Yeah that's understandable, and to this day, I have no idea what this "KNOX" thing is for Samsung.
Our phones are great, but it's already outdated by new and newer things.
GigaSPX said:
Wait for development of the S7/Edge? Yeah that's understandable, and to this day, I have no idea what this "KNOX" thing is for Samsung.
Our phones are great, but it's already outdated by new and newer things.
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yea development for the s7. Knox is a Samsung pay thing I believe. Giga I would seriously consider not buying a Verizon branded phone if I was you. Look at all the crap Verizon's put us through with the z3v. If I was you and I had to have an s7 I would sell my z3v for I duuno $175
And bye s7 outright if u do that and ur not under contract your line cost is $20 a month instead of 40 so either way your going to pay 500+ for the s7 when its all said and done. Its your choice if you want to risk it. What about the x-performance are you not interested in that.

Lgus992 root

Will this website work for rooting my lgus992? https://www.search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-lg-g5-marshmallow-6-0-1/ if not does anyone know how I can? I have tried kingoroot kingroot and towelroot. Thank you
There are no public root methods available for that model. Only for European variants and T-Mobile.
SilverZero said:
There are no public root methods available for that model. Only for European variants and T-Mobile.
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What about this http://kidapso.com/how-to-root-lg-g5/ it says it's comparable with my phone lgus992
Hfhdhshb said:
What about this http://kidapso.com/how-to-root-lg-g5/ it says it's comparable with my phone lgus992
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I'm pretty sure they're just reposting the same directions for every Android device they post about, without actually testing it. Their tool might work on some basic devices (like the dozens of phones on the site I've never heard of) but it's going to give an error on yours, or worse. Try it if you want, but if they knew it worked they'd be here claiming almost $5,000 in bounty money.
SilverZero said:
I'm pretty sure they're just reposting the same directions for every Android device they post about, without actually testing it. Their tool might work on some basic devices (like the dozens of phones on the site I've never heard of) but it's going to give an error on yours, or worse. Try it if you want, but if they knew it worked they'd be here claiming almost $5,000 in bounty money.
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Thank you I appreciate it a ton...I know this is a lot to ask for and you could forget but do you think you could send me a link when it is available for my device I would highly appreciate this

[ROOT] Any Updates on Root?

I currently own the US model of this device. I've done some digging in the forums but I never really come up with very much. If anyone could help I'd be willing to try just about anything to get this phone rooted as long as there's a recovery option. I've read in other threads that the European model can be rooted but the US version has no such luck. If anyone has anymore information please post a reply I would love to get a discussion started. Thanks in advance
Model:LM-850UM
DarkTomb09 said:
I currently own the US model of this device. I've done some digging in the forums but I never really come up with very much. If anyone could help I'd be willing to try just about anything to get this phone rooted as long as there's a recovery option. I've read in other threads that the European model can be rooted but the US version has no such luck. If anyone has anymore information please post a reply I would love to get a discussion started. Thanks in advance
Model:LM-850UM
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Guess there's not much love for LG devices!
iceman1977 said:
Guess there's not much love for LG devices!
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Unfortunately, yes your appear to be right. I haven't been able to find anything on this device as far as the U.S. version goes anyway. Apparently, the European version has already been rooted with Magisk and an unlocked bootloader. Although no one has said much of anything about this one. I hope there some development soon!!
A shame these dont yet have bootloader unlock etc.. Its a great phone with Awesome specs on it.
I picked up a Like NEw one for 200.00 (u.s. sprint) version. I use it on t-mobile.
carlasan said:
A shame these dont yet have bootloader unlock etc.. Its a great phone with Awesome specs on it.
I picked up a Like NEw one for 200.00 (u.s. sprint) version. I use it on t-mobile.
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Well it has according to the LG website. Didn't try it out yet.
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
• LG V50S: LMG850EMW/LMG850EMWX for the European market
This is the LG G8X (check your device info).
We'll probably have to wait for Firehose to be released for LG Snapdragon 855 to have any hopes for unlocking on Non EU variants
No bootloader unlock available? Was checking developer settings and was able to turn on OEM unlock. Would really like to see some AOSP ROMs available for this phone.
I am very glad to be getting replies here. However, US models are still unrootable as far as I can tell its not listed for the US region but is listed for EU. So far no new updates. Please keep the conversation alive though!! Need a developer to start cracking down on this device please!
If anyone knows any developer's willing to work on this device I will quite literally give them payment to develop a working root method for this device. No joke. I'm not very sure how much power developers have over this device. But I would really love to find out.
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If anyone knows any developer's willing to work on this device I will quite literally give them payment to develop a working root method for this device. No joke. I'm not very sure how much power developers have over this device. But I would really love to find out.
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You could probably start a Bounty thread like they did with the V50 and G8.
tech_infinity said:
You could probably start a Bounty thread like they did with the V50 and G8.
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How would I go about doing this? Not all that familiar with Xda honestly. I rooted my old phone thanks to this site but I wouldn't know how to contact any developers on this subject.
A shame that this high end phone does not yet have root/rom. (in u.s.) You can pick these up fairly inexpensively (on ebay..as I did)
Hope LG is able to get bootloader unlocked one day or I may have to go back to Xiaomi / Oneplus
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
carlasan said:
A shame that this high end phone does not yet have root/rom. (in u.s.) You can pick these up fairly inexpensively (on ebay..as I did)
Hope LG is able to get bootloader unlocked one day or I may have to go back to Xiaomi / Oneplus
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Well considering this same device is rooted it would likely mean that eventually we will have something. It might take awhile however. The EU version is definitely rooted and even compatible with Magisk having an unlocked bootloader is fantastic. Especially in this time. However since our country is a bit more controlling when it comes to phone data we may not see one until this device is obsolete. Meaning that LG will have made their money on it and therefore feel safe releasing a bootloader unlock officially..

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